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Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:00 AM

THG


Deaths___184,191___+1,268

Lab confirms 1st coronavirus reinfection in the US

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/lab-confirms-1st-coronavirus-
reinfection-in-the-us/ar-BB18tWXp?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___184,191___+1,268



DAY 242, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,889,536

Quote:

Lab confirms 1st coronavirus reinfection in the US



Cool

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:10 AM

THG




T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:13 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Your signature says everything anyone needs to know.



It does. And you still don't get it. Too funny...I created in response to you and some others. You're in good company with the likes of Jack.

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Your signature says everything anyone needs to know.



It does. And you still don't get it. Too funny...I created in response to you and some others. You're in good company with the likes of Jack.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.




He must be talking about the good company that knows Biden doesn't have a chance in hell at winning.

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Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:24 PM

THG


Deaths___185,537___+1,184

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Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:25 PM

THG


Jacks anger about being gay is showing again.

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Monday, August 31, 2020 10:40 AM

THG


Deaths___185,870

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Monday, August 31, 2020 10:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Jacks anger about being gay is showing again.



Nah dude. Wish I were gay. It would simplify things. Nothing wrong with gay people.

Nobody likes faggots like you though. Faggot.





Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___185,870



DAY 244, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,905,152



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Monday, August 31, 2020 11:09 AM

THG


Cases 6,081,372



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Monday, August 31, 2020 12:09 PM

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Monday, August 31, 2020 12:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Cases 6,081,372





Likely with a factor of 10 applied to it because of lack of testing.

Even with half of those deaths or more not even being because of COVID and the fake 6,081,272 number of cases, that's only 3% deaths to cases ratio.

Multiply by 10 for a more accurate amount of cases and it's .3% deaths to actual cases ratio.

Take out 50% that weren't actually due to COVID and it's .15% deaths to actual cases ratio, which is not much higher than the flu.




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Monday, August 31, 2020 5:34 PM

REAVERFAN


Health Experts Horrified as New Trump Covid-19 Adviser Pushes 'Herd Immunity' Strategy That Could Kill 2 Million Americans
"It's not edgy, contrarian," one public health expert said of the "herd immunity" approach. "It's dangerous and terrifying."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/31/health-experts-horrified-
new-trump-covid-19-adviser-pushes-herd-immunity-strategy


A top White House coronavirus adviser brought on earlier this month despite his lack of expertise in infectious diseases or epidemiology is reportedly pushing the Trump administration to adopt a so-called "herd immunity" strategy to the pandemic that public health experts warn could kill millions of Americans and infect hundreds of millions more.

"Something so jarring about reading the cadences of normal newspaper copy about a WH adviser who has a plan to kill 2 million Americans."
—journalist Chris Hayes

The Washington Post reported Monday that Scott Atlas, a neuroradiologist from the right-wing Hoover Institution, caught President Donald Trump's attention "with a spate of Fox News appearances in recent months" in which he downplayed the severity of Covid-19 and questioned the need for lockdowns and social distancing measures.

Atlas—who one commentator described as the "anti-Fauci," referring to National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Dr. Anthony Fauci—has "advocated that the United States adopt the model Sweden has used to respond to the virus outbreak... which relies on lifting restrictions so the healthy can build up immunity to the disease rather than limiting social and business interactions to prevent the virus from spreading," according to the Post.

Sweden's decision to forego strict lockdowns in favor of more relaxed social distancing guidelines has been criticized by public health experts as a reckless approach to the pandemic that contributed to the country's high death rate compared to other European nations. Pursuing a similar strategy in the U.S., a country with a population of 328 million, would be catastrophic, experts warned.

Putin is ecstatic.


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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 8:21 AM

THG


Deaths___186,348___+478

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 10:07 AM

REAVERFAN



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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 10:38 AM

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 10:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___186,348___+478



DAY 245, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,912,960

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:08 PM

THG


Want more evidence Jack is a moron? According to Jacks numbers; one in 7 deaths each day in this country are from the coronavirus. So when I publish the number of Americans we’ve lost each day, Jack is posting, as I've said, numbers showing one in 7 are from the virus.

What a fucking moron. Since we lose about a thousand a day to the virus, the only number that means anything is his daily death number. He thinks that number shows the virus death rate is no big deal. When in fact, that number shows the virus death rate is a catastrophe. I’ll say it again. According to Jacks numbers, one is seven deaths in this country each day are from the virus.



T


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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No. Those numbers are overinflated.

They're bullshit.

And 5 years from now we're going to see how many of them were just taking from other pools.



And at the end of the day, a vast majority of them happened in NYC and other Democrat run shitholes and cannot be pinned on Trump.

Nobody cares about your TDS and your virus panic, Karen.

Go fuck yourself Ted Bundy. Trump wins easily in November, and focusing on this isn't going to do anything but keep your panties perpetually in a twist.

Have a nice day.



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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:14 PM

THG


Lets see if Jack keeps posting the daily number of deaths so I can compare it to the virus death rate for each day. So I can show daily how one in 7 deaths are from, you know what.

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:45 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. Those numbers are overinflated.

They're bullshit.

And 5 years from now we're going to see how many of them were just taking from other pools.



And at the end of the day, a vast majority of them happened in NYC and other Democrat run shitholes and cannot be pinned on Trump.

Nobody cares about your TDS and your virus panic, Karen.

Go fuck yourself Ted Bundy. Trump wins easily in November, and focusing on this isn't going to do anything but keep your panties perpetually in a twist.

Have a nice day.



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I guess these numbers are inflated in the world you live in, aye Jack?

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Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:42 AM

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I am anxious to start on the preproduction prototype. It will be much more compact and liter. This experiment wuz to see if making it from carbon fiber woud be a good idea.



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Wednesday, September 2, 2020 5:29 AM

THG


Deaths___187,441___+1,093


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Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:46 AM

THG


JO, their going to have a cure before your helmet mask is complete. My question is, are you prepared for that?

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Thursday, September 3, 2020 6:14 AM

THG


Deaths___188,589___+1,148


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Thursday, September 3, 2020 9:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK



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Thursday, September 3, 2020 9:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___187,441___+1,093




DAY 246, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,920,768

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___188,589___+1,148




DAY 247, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,928,576



Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
JO, their going to have a cure before your helmet mask is complete. My question is, are you prepared for that?




There will NEVER be a cure and EVERYBODY is going to get it.

Most won't even know they've had it. And hardly anybody is going to die from it.






Keep making your mask, JO. Nobody is going to pay the price you'd need to make a buck off of it for the Coomph, but when China sends something that is actually deadly our way you're going to be ready with it and probably end up pretty rich.

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Thursday, September 3, 2020 12:15 PM

THG


And again we see by Jacks numbers that one in seven deaths each day in America is due to the virus. Thanks for the post Jack.

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Thursday, September 3, 2020 1:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
And again we see by Jacks numbers that one in seven deaths each day in America is due to the virus. Thanks for the post Jack.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.




First off, you can't math. So thanks for the laughs.

IF that's what the numbers I posted actually said, it's less than 1 in 10.

Get a fucking calculator since your brain doesn't work.



Second, 96% of those had 2.6 comorbidities or weren't even deemed due to COVID at all.

Only 4% of your numbers were deaths due to COVID.






And BTW... There's an apostrophe before the "s" in "Jack's". You can't English either.

What country did you say you're posting from again, non-American resident Ted Bundy?

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Friday, September 4, 2020 6:09 AM

THG


Deaths___189,619___+1,030


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Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:52 AM

BRENDA


Another church sign seen in BC.

"Thou shalt not Covid thy neighbour's life. Wear a mask."


Again I am posting this because I find it funny.

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 8:17 AM

THG


Deaths___195,958___+941

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 8:28 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Trump officials interfered with CDC reports on Covid-19

www.politico.com/news/2020/09/11/exclusive-trump-officials-interfered-
with-cdc-reports-on-covid-19-412809


Caputo also said that HHS was appropriately reviewing the CDC’s reports. “Our intention is to make sure that evidence, science-based data drives policy through this pandemic—not ulterior deep state motives in the bowels of CDC,” he said.

Caputo wants to make sure that science reporting isn’t driven by “deep state motives in the bowels of the CDC.” Instead it should be driven by whether or not it annoys the president.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 8:55 AM

THG


U.S. coronavirus data is 'disturbing,' Dr. Fauci says, disputing Trump's claim that U.S. is 'rounding the corner'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/u-s-coronavirus-data-is-distur
bing-dr-fauci-says-disputing-trump-s-claim-that-u-s-is-rounding-the-corner/ar-BB18Wq26?ocid=msedgntp


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Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:50 AM

THG


Fauci says US won't get back to normal until late 2021

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-says-us-won-t-get-back-to-norm
al-until-late-2021/ar-BB18WHQa?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 11:00 AM

THG


It's impossible to comprehend all the damage done to this country due to Trumps disastrous response to the coronavirus virus.

Bankruptcy filings are mounting. And that's just the tip of the iceberg

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/bankruptcy-filings-are-mountin
g-and-that-s-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/ar-BB18W8LZ?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 12:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___195,958___+941



DAY 256, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,998,848

Tomorrow we reach 2 million.

*yawn*

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 12:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths___195,958___+941



DAY 256, 2020
US Deaths per day: 7,808
US Deaths so far in 2020: 1,998,848

Tomorrow we reach 2 million.

*yawn*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Without Trump, wasn't it supposed to be 30 Million by now?

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 1:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I dunno. Whatever. They just make up shit on the fly. Who can keep track?

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 2:39 PM

THG


Trump's HHS alters CDC documents for political reasons, official says

Trump-appointed communications officials at the US Department of Health and Human Services pushed to change language of weekly science reports released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention so as not to undermine President Donald Trump's political message, according to a federal health official.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/trump-s-hhs-alters-cdc-docume
nts-for-political-reasons-official-says/ar-BB18XWaS?ocid=msedgntp


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Saturday, September 12, 2020 3:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
It's impossible to comprehend all the damage done to this country due to Trumps disastrous response to the coronavirus virus.

Bankruptcy filings are mounting. And that's just the tip of the iceberg

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/bankruptcy-filings-are-mountin
g-and-that-s-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/ar-BB18W8LZ?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

You see? Just like I said in the other thread: If Trump isn't being criticized for NOT locking down and therefore causing excess deaths, you'll criticize him FOR locking down and causing excess bankruptcies ( and loss of freedom)

Son, see if your little mind can comprehend this: You can't have it both ways. This virus is a shit sandwich no matter which side you bite, and no matter who is doing the biting.

Nations that have beat the virus have done so with such draconian measures that YOU would object: Lockdowns. Separation of families. Mass sterilization of common surfaces. Required masking, with imprisonment if not. Yanno, like Communist China, or Australia, or the UK.

Do you think their economies haven't taken a beating?

Nations that were unwilling, or unable, to lockdown saw huge spikes in excess deaths, like Sweden, Italy, Spain, India, and the USA.

And even those nations that managed to slow the infection rate by locking down only saw a TEMPORARY reprieve, as their infection rates rose the moment they let their foot off the pedal.

Unless you have an EFFECTIVE plan B for AFTER lockdown, you will not be able to eradicate the virus. It's so infectious that any small residual infected population can cause another explosion in cases.

Fortunately, treatment therapies have improved and several medications including HCQ, ivermectin, steroids and anticoagulants have come to the fore. Masking is still an option, as is universal testing and contact tracing.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 8:52 AM

THG


Deaths___196,672___+714

Since I've posted this several hours ago another 75 people have died. The new number is 196,747.

What a fucking mess Trump led us into.

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 9:14 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

It's impossible to comprehend all the damage done to this country due to Trumps disastrous response to the coronavirus virus.

Bankruptcy filings are mounting. And that's just the tip of the iceberg

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/bankruptcy-filings-are-mountin
g-and-that-s-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/ar-BB18W8LZ?ocid=msedgntp


T




You see? Just like I said in the other thread: If Trump isn't being criticized for NOT locking down and therefore causing excess deaths, you'll criticize him FOR locking down and causing excess bankruptcies ( and loss of freedom)




You can misrepresent what I've posted all you want. Your reputation is that all you post is bullshit, lies and Russian propaganda comrade. I'd add, 99% of what I've posted is what's being reported on in the news. So asshole, it's the media you are arguing with. They report Trump did this and Trump did that and you say it’s all lies; simple.

You and others here dismiss the media as being fake. Unless what's being reported suits you. How hypocritical is that? So, much of your information comes from other unsubstantiated sources. Sources that don’t report on researched evidence but instead opinions and falsehoods. Some is based on tribalism. Other arguments you guys present are based on sentiments based in tribalism. Much of what you post is abhorrent lies.

This is because you have no accurate or correct information to post. And this is because you guys refuse to acknowledge the truth. You’re stupid, dishonest, minions to others, as well as anti-anti-Trumpers. In simpler terms, mentally unstable.



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Sunday, September 13, 2020 9:40 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

You see? Just like I said in the other thread: If Trump isn't being criticized for NOT locking down and therefore causing excess deaths, you'll criticize him FOR locking down and causing excess bankruptcies ( and loss of freedom)

Son, see if your little mind can comprehend this: You can't have it both ways. This virus is a shit sandwich no matter which side you bite, and no matter who is doing the biting.

Trump is being criticized for his performance.

Most Approve of National Response to COVID-19 in 14 Advanced Economies
But many also say their country is more divided due to the outbreak

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/08/27/most-approve-of-national
-response-to-covid-19-in-14-advanced-economies
/

What is a Trump "performance"? It is very straightforward: Trump relishes his role as a divider as he vows to be 'vicious'
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/politics/2020-election-donald-trump-div
ision-joe-biden/index.html

"At no time before has there been a clearer choice between two parties or two visions, two philosophies, two agendas for the future. There's never been anything like this," Trump said during the rally where he claimed he was "probably entitled" to a third term because he's been so poorly treated. "The Democrats are trying to rig this election, because it's the only way they're gonna win," he said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 1:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
You see? Just like I said in the other thread: If Trump isn't being criticized for NOT locking down and therefore causing excess deaths, you'll criticize him FOR locking down and causing excess bankruptcies ( and loss of freedom)



The hypocrisy of the left in full effect.

Don't bother trying to explain this to any of them. They can't comprehend it because simply reading words isn't going to make them understand. They would have to take a huge step back from all of this and a very, very, very long and hard look into the mirror and re-evaluate, deconstruct, and rebuild their very perception of reality. One in which they can voice an opinion on any given day and not have it completely contradict what they said last month, last week or even five minutes ago.


The internet has made this an impossible task for people who are driven purely by emotion and have no real critical thinking skills. They live 100% immersed in their emotions and all of the brain-chemical hits they're self-medicating with. It has made them nothing more than reactionary puppets to the narrative. Constantly bombarded with the next outrage story that was never fact-checked before it was put out there, and almost never cites a single source that wasn't anonymous.


I'm not saying that there isn't any hope for them in the future, but you're not going to fix them with words. Something serious has to come down on them to get them to break that cycle.

They're addicts.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 3:44 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

You see? Just like I said in the other thread: If Trump isn't being criticized for NOT locking down and therefore causing excess deaths, you'll criticize him FOR locking down and causing excess bankruptcies ( and loss of freedom)



The hypocrisy of the left in full effect.

The internet has made this an impossible task for people who are driven purely by emotion and have no real critical thinking skills. They live 100% immersed in their emotions and all of the brain-chemical hits they're self-medicating with. It has made them nothing more than reactionary puppets to the narrative. Constantly bombarded with the next outrage story that was never fact-checked before it was put out there, and almost never cites a single source that wasn't anonymous.

They're addicts.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Amazing, Jack just described everyone who relies on the internet for their news as reactionary puppets. He just described himself, sig and Kiki.

The rest of us get our news from the main stream media. You know, what’s being reported in the actual news. You know, what’s being reported on by the mainstream press. You know, what is actually fact checked.

Not, what is posted on the internet designed to prey on your emotions. Not what is posted on the internet that once clicked on uses algorithms designed to give you more of the same. Nope, that's where jack gets his information. The rest of what he posts is mindless bullshit.

What a fucking moron.




T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 3:51 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Deaths___196,672___+714



Since I've posted this number a few hours ago, another 75 people have died. The new number is 196,747


What a fucking mess Trump led us into



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Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:15 PM

THG


Almost 2 in 3 Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of pandemic: poll

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/almost-2-in-3-americans-disapp
rove-of-trump-s-handling-of-pandemic-poll/ar-BB18ZecH?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Signy: You see? Just like I said in the other thread: If Trump isn't being criticized for NOT locking down and therefore causing excess deaths, you'll criticize him FOR locking down and causing excess bankruptcies ( and loss of freedom)
Quote:

THUGGER: So asshole, it's the media you are arguing with. They report Trump did this and Trump did that and you say it’s all lies; simple.
Nowhere did Signy claim anything was a 'lie'. What jawn posted was that the facts are devastating either way. EITHER you let it run rampant and take the hit in deaths and long-term medical consequences while trying to minimize the immediate economic impact OR you effectively suppress it through draconian or at least very expensive and comprehensive measures and take the GDP hit.

Well, there's a middle way - you try to slow it down through simple cheap measure like wearing masks, social distancing, and handwashing; and widely available timely testing; but nobody seems interested in that. (When it comes to protecting at-risk populations, the US is 42% at-risk due to obesity alone, so trying to come up with separate protective policies for that category of people is imo not worth it.)

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 6:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Almost 2 in 3 Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of pandemic: poll




CORRECTION: Almost 2 in 3 of the 533 pre-selected adults in America that were polled by IPSOS to get the results they wanted to put in print disapprove of Trump's handling of the pandemic.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2020-09/to
pline_abc_ipsos_poll_september_13_2020.pdf


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