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Monday, February 22, 2021 3:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Numbers from wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_by_country_and_territo
ry#Cases_and_deaths_by_region

Cases and deaths by region

Europe 25, 074,292 cases - Deaths 1,217 per million
North America 28, 521,787 cases - Deaths 1,376 Per Millions
Central America 2,933,536 - Deaths 1,087 Per Million

East Asia 384 cases per million and death only 6 per million, not that a trust the media numbers in Asia




There's no reason to trust the numbers anywhere.


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Monday, February 22, 2021 7:53 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

There's no reason to trust the numbers anywhere.

500,000 is a number.

On September 26, the White House held a Rose Garden event to announce the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court. Again, masks were not required, and very few attendees wore them. Five days later, the President and First Lady tested positive for the coronavirus. The next day Trump was taken via helicopter to Walter Reed.

His three-day hospitalization gave him an opportunity to recraft his coronavirus message. He didn't. In a recorded statement from the hospital, Trump said: "Don't let it dominate you. Don't be afraid of it." Upon his return to the White House, the President made a show of walking up the curving steps to the Truman Balcony. As he stood facing the South Lawn, the former president dramatically removed his mask, saluted Marine One, and then turned and, actively infected with the coronavirus and unmasked, he entered the Executive Residence.

Three weeks later, the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation issued what would turn out to be an astonishingly accurate prediction. IHME estimated that there could be 500,000 US deaths by the end of February. Their analysis also suggested that 130,000 of these deaths could be prevented if the country adopted universal masking.

www.cnn.com/2021/02/22/opinions/trump-covid-big-lie-reiner/index.html

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Monday, February 22, 2021 7:56 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

There's no reason to trust the numbers anywhere.



Says the guy whose favorite movie is "The Trump Prophecy."



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Monday, February 22, 2021 9:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

There's no reason to trust the numbers anywhere.



Says the guy whose favorite movie is "The Trump Prophecy."






I've never even heard of that movie before.

But my favorite movie is Ink.


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Monday, February 22, 2021 9:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

There's no reason to trust the numbers anywhere.

500,000 is a number.




Yup.

So is 2.

So is 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999

So is 430

So is 339,203

So is 18

So is 7,500,000,000



I'd ask you what your point is, but I didn't care enough the first time to read beyond the first sentence.

Save yourself the time and don't bother replying.




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Monday, February 22, 2021 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I'd ask you what your point is, but I didn't care enough the first time to read beyond the first sentence.

Save yourself the time and don't bother replying.

I've got time, going all the way back to the Vietnam War, to explain what I mean. The highly disciplined pro-Nixon/pro-Vietnam War Americans consistently plugged their ears and covered their eyes and ignored what was happening or else they'd have to admit that Nixon's war, which they wholeheartedly supported both President and his war, was a fiasco that killed around a million South Vietnamese. Jump forward 50 years to 2021.

Today's highly disciplined Trumptards wholeheartedly supported President Trump and his strategy to fight Covid-19, but if they paid attention they would have seen his war was a disorganized fiasco which will kill around a million Americans. (Nixon's war kept killing after Nixon resigned and Ford took charge of the Vietnam War; Trump's war keeps killing after Trump lost and Biden took charge.)

Countries as disorganized as Trump's America have huge Covid-19 death tolls, while countries that went about their war with Covid-19 in an organized fashion have small death tolls. But you can't know which countries are doing a poor job of fighting a war unless you count the number of dead. Trumptards don't want to know the number of dead Americans, just like pro-Nixon/pro-Vietnam War supporters didn't want to know the number of dead South Vietnamese.

Covid-19 deaths sorted by countries: www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Trump's America is looking bad, but true Trumptards wouldn't want to know that.

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Monday, February 22, 2021 11:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Cool.

Anything you post beyond one sentence is TL;DR.



Ted should do that more often though. He could use some practice on his bad English even if nobody is reading it. It's just a complete waste of time when you do it though.


FYI... 7 more days and YOU'RE the Trumptard if you're still talking about him. You bring up Trump more in one day that I have mentioned him since Biden* was sworn in.


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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 6:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Cool.

Anything you post beyond one sentence is TL;DR.



Ted should do that more often though. He could use some practice on his bad English even if nobody is reading it. It's just a complete waste of time when you do it though.


FYI... 7 more days and YOU'RE the Trumptard if you're still talking about him. You bring up Trump more in one day that I have mentioned him since Biden* was sworn in.

FYI, Trump will be running again for President and his past mistakes, just for two examples, his Covid-19 War and his tax returns, will still be worth discussing with the people who would vote for him a third time. But I've noticed that those people won't discuss, other than to say those are not important.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nope. Not important.

I already told you before the fixed election results came in that it would be a pleasure to vote for him a 3rd time. Now that your second fake impeachment failed chances are looking good.

Biden is going to be a 1 term president. He's going to fail to deliver on the impossible amount of promises he made, and the ones he's choosing to make are only serving to embolden the opposition.

2022 is already shaping up to be a Democratic Party bloodbath, and we're just a litle more than a month into it.



You should probably start worrying about fixing your party like I've been telling you for over 4 years now instead of doing nothing but talking about Trump and Russian phantoms.


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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:21 AM

THG


Deaths

505,235



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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:42 PM

THG



Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Falsehoods like Biden* won the election and half a million Americans died of Covid.

Over the past few weeks, we have recorded about 40% more deaths than we normally would.

https://jabberwocking.com/how-much-is-500000-extra-deaths/

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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 5:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It doesn't matter how many times you post the lies, Ted.

They're still lies.




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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 5:20 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nope. Not important.

I already told you before the fixed election results came in that it would be a pleasure to vote for him a 3rd time. Now that your second fake impeachment failed chances are looking good.

Biden is going to be a 1 term HALF TERM president.



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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:30 PM

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California’s coronavirus strain looks increasingly dangerous: ‘The devil is already here’

The Los Angeles Times reports:

A coronavirus variant that emerged in mid-2020 and surged to become the dominant strain in California not only spreads more readily than its predecessors, but also evades antibodies generated by COVID-19 vaccines or prior infection and is associated with severe illness and death, researchers said.

In a study that helps explain the state’s dramatic surge in COVID-19 cases and deaths — and portends further trouble ahead — scientists at UC San Francisco said the cluster of mutations that characterizes the homegrown strain should mark it as a “variant of concern” on par with those from the United Kingdom, South Africa and Brazil.

“The devil is already here,” said Dr. Charles Chiu, who led the UCSF team of geneticists, epidemiologists, statisticians and other scientists in a wide-ranging analysis of the new variant, which they call B.1.427/B.1.429. “I wish it were different. But the science is the science.”

Californians, along with the rest of the country, have been bracing for the rise of a more transmissible coronavirus variant from the U.K. known as B.1.1.7. But they should know that a rival strain that is probably just as worrisome has already settled in, and will probably account for 90% of the state’s infections by the end of next month, said Chiu, an infectious diseases researcher and physician.

The U.K. and California variants are each armed with enhanced capabilities, and the likelihood that they could circulate in the same population raises the specter of a return to spiking infections and deaths, Chiu said. It also opens the door to a “nightmare scenario”: That the two viruses will meet in a single person, swap their mutations, and create an even more dangerous strain of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The new evidence that the California variant could make people sicker, and vaccines less effective, should spur more intensive efforts to drive down infections, Chiu said. Those should include both public health measures, such as masking and limits on public activities, and a campaign of rapid vaccinations, he added.

More at https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-02-23/california-homegrown-
coronavirus-strain-looks-increasingly-transmissible-and-dangerous


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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Since the LATimes is behind a paywall, the story may be read at either YAHOO or MSN.

California's coronavirus strain looks increasingly dangerous: 'The devil is already here'

https://news.yahoo.com/californias-coronavirus-strain-looks-increasing
ly-130055544.html


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/californias-coronavirus-strai
n-looks-increasingly-dangerous-the-devil-is-already-here/ar-BB1dWmbA


https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-02-23/california-homegrown-
coronavirus-strain-looks-increasingly-transmissible-and-dangerous


Thanks for the post. I'll x-post this in the 'deadly new coronavirus' thread.

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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 11:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
A coronavirus variant that emerged in mid-2020 and surged to become the dominant strain in California not only spreads more readily than its predecessors, but also evades antibodies generated by COVID-19 vaccines or prior infection and is associated with severe illness and death, researchers said.



Yup. Because it came from fuckin Mars.

Still not getting the vaccine, ever, fucktard.


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Saturday, February 27, 2021 11:07 AM

THG


Deaths

515,138

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Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:28 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Still not getting the vaccine, ever, fucktard.

Dr. Peter Hotez's battle against the 'anti-science confederacy' is a lifetime in the making

Updated: Feb. 27, 2021 8:03 a.m.

The antivaccine movement taught vaccine researcher Peter Hotez not to ignore conspiracy theories, no matter how scientifically unfounded. But in late spring of 2020, the virulence of the made-up stories he began hearing about COVID-19 astounded him.

One hoax held that Bill Gates had created the new coronavirus to force all Americans to be vaccinated with eensy devices that would create a sci-fi global-surveillance network. Another said that the launch of a 5G network in Wuhan, China, had spawned the virus. Some people claimed, falsely, that Gates, Hotez and Dr. Anthony Fauci stood to get rich off patents related to the COVID vaccine.

Hotez watched as the anti-vaxx movement — with its hippie roots in liberal distrust of chemicals and Big Pharma — connected with groups on the far right. “Vaccine choice” became an issue at protests that opposed mask requirements and business shutdowns. He was particularly alarmed that in Michigan, in late April and early May, supporters of President Donald Trump, wearing camouflage and carrying guns, protested on the steps of the state’s capitol.

Worse, some of the disinformation was coming from the White House: that COVID-19 was no more dangerous than a seasonal flu; that masks weren’t necessary; that the U.S. could have a safe vaccine by October. Hotez worried that the White House might wreck the public faith in vaccines with its impossible promises. He couldn’t imagine why a president wouldn’t at least acknowledge the hundreds of thousands who’d died.

But should he say anything about that? The pandemic had made Hotez a constant presence in the media, particularly on cable-TV news shows. He has a talent for conveying science to regular people, and as a top vaccine scientist with experience with coronaviruses, his credentials are impeccable. “He’s got tremendous credibility,” says investigative journalist Brian Rice, “because he’s done a huge amount to draw attention to potentially vaccine-preventable diseases that are less of an issue in the highly developed countries of North America and Europe: diseases that are often less likely to be profitable to the drug industry but nevertheless kill a lot of people.”

On TV, his appearance is a bonus: Forever rumpled and bow-tied, he looks like a scientist from central casting. But unlike a stereotypical scientist, his emotions are on surprising display. When a grim subject transforms his usual smiley warmth into anger or dismay, the effect is potent. He doesn’t come across as a normal talking head, auto-furious about the topic du jour. He looks like a teddy bear forced into battle.

Now, Hotez was wondering just how much battle he should take on, how frankly he should speak. He worried that he’d alienate Fox viewers, leaving them with one less source of credible scientific information. He worried, too, that scientists who criticized the Trump administration might be targeted — maybe just on social media but maybe in the real world as well.

He asked his wife, Ann, what he should do. Speak out, she said. “You don’t want to wake up in a year and see the body count and know that you didn’t do all you could to prevent it.”

More at https://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/article/Peter-Hotez-fight-for-sc
ience-COVID-houston-texas-15982489.php


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Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It doesn't have to be for any of those reasons.

You're a guinea pig. I'm not. I'm also not at any risk.

Have fun with your shots. And go follow your science right up your asshole.




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