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Sunday, May 2, 2021 10:07 AM

THG



I wonder if those here who dispute the death toll in American due to the virus, would care to post at least once proof it's wrong, with their source of course, and what they believe the correct number is?

Do they have the balls to expose themselves further as being morons, easily duped by fake news and trolls?



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Sunday, May 2, 2021 10:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nope.

Your numbers are lies. Use your brain.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Monday, May 3, 2021 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Derek Parfit put a bullet into the brain of people who mindlessly chirp "Morals, however, are subjective in many cases." Mammals and most every human will only have subjective feelings to guide them (and their subjectivity sure as hell shows in how ineffectively they live, work and die) but if you are a tiny bit smarter than a house cat or more mindful than the average person, you will have Parfit to show you that what feels right isn't notably right.
Morals are preferences and by their very nature are entirely subjective. Some people even call them 'values' - ie we really really prefer, or 'value', one behavior over another - which only highlights their subjective nature even further. There are no objective morals. Because every moral can be questioned with 'why'. And every 'why' answer is a feeling of preference.

Even the theoretical Vulcan value "the greatest good for the greatest number" begs the question 'What is good?'. Some might consider life to be the greatest good. Others might consider meaningful sacrifice to be the greatest good. Greeks and Romans thought bravery in the face of death being meted out by fate was the greatest good.



And btw, your rejection of others' moral failings doesn't seem to have kept you from being an even bigger moral failure (and hypocrite). For example, even as you claim to abhor the mendacity of republicans, you come here and lie with every post. So what does that make you? A better republicans than the rank and file republicans?

I know all about Trumptards' actual morals. Those real morals don't match up to what Trumptards profess for themselves. It's not hypocrisy. It's that they can't. With a little temptation, they fail moral tests. I'm not sure if they notice they failed. Must be some protective psychological mechanism that blinds them, makes them insensitive. Maybe because on the inside they are robots. Maybe they are the philosopher's zombies pretending to be people, but without consciousness. I don't know, but I can see that people who go through life without consciousness have a hard time staying in the middle class. They, when white, vote for Trump -- the man who never had a moral in life. That is a dead giveaway that little Trumptards are almost as hollow inside as big Trump.
A Short List of Mr. Trump’s History:
www.gcrr.org/addendum-b

Trump fed our worst instincts:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/27/trump-fed-our-wo
rst-instincts-his-global-legacy-is-toxic-and-immoral


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 3, 2021 8:03 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nope.

Your numbers are lies. Use your brain.

The Biggest Remaining Challenge in Stopping the Coronavirus: Miscreants and freeloaders are holding up the rest of us.

On April 15, at a hearing on the coronavirus pandemic, Rep. Jim Jordan harangued Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Jordan, an outspoken critic of mask mandates, demanded to know when Americans would “get their liberties back and be able to move on with their lives.” Fauci explained that the answer depended on progress in vaccination, which in turn depended on how many people were willing to roll up their sleeves. Jordan, who had passed up an invitation to get vaccinated in December—and had reiterated in March that he was in “no hurry” to get his shot—ignored Fauci’s point and went on with his tirade.

This is the paradox we’re dealing with as we try to get control of the virus: People who won’t get vaccinated—in many cases, the same people who defy mask orders and other public health measures—are holding us back from resuming normal life. In many cases, they’re deliberate freeloaders. They’re counting on the rest of us to suppress the pandemic—and thereby protect them—by getting vaccinated, while they refuse to do the same.

Millions of people won’t wear masks, won’t respect social distance, won’t quarantine when they’re exposed to the virus, won’t take recommended precautions to protect the vulnerable—and won’t get vaccinated when it’s their turn, either. A nation of Anthony Faucis is trapped in a nation of Jim Jordans.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210503105049/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/05/coronavirus-challenge-vaccine-refusers.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 3, 2021 8:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Fuck your guilt tactics.

I predicted long ago you would be using them. Long before your Media Masters planted that seed into your pea brain.

Fuck Fauchi. Fuck the CDC. Fuck the WHO. Fuck the vaccine. Fuck the masks. Fuck the Legacy Media. Fuck the fear. Fuck the guilt.

Fuck you.

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Monday, May 3, 2021 4:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



SLOPPY, you come here and lie with every post - then you criticize republicans for being liars. The only lesson I think you learned in Vietnam is that once you got scammed, it made you free to scam everyone else.

And the only problem you have with Trump is that he was far more successful at it than you.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:51 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

SLOPPY, you come here and lie with every post - then you criticize republicans for being liars. The only lesson I think you learned in Vietnam is that once you got scammed, it made you free to scam everyone else.

And the only problem you have with Trump is that he was far more successful at it than you.

A story from what Trump calls "The Failing New York Times": How Humanity Gave Itself an Extra Life

Between 1920 and 2020, the average human life span doubled. How did we do it? Science mattered — but so did activism. ("activism" is the part that Trumptards and Trump get weird about.)

In September 1918, a flu virus began spreading through Camp Devens, an overcrowded military base just outside Boston. By the end of the second week of the outbreak, one in five soldiers at the base had come down with the illness. But the speed with which it spread through the camp was not nearly as shocking as the lethality. “It is only a matter of a few hours then until death comes,” a camp physician wrote. “It is horrible. One can stand it to see one, two or 20 men die, but to see these poor devils dropping like flies sort of gets on your nerves. We have been averaging about 100 deaths per day.”

The devastation at Camp Devens would soon be followed by even more catastrophic outbreaks, as the so-called Spanish flu — a strain of influenza virus that science now identifies as H1N1 — spread around the world. In the United States, it would cause nearly half of all deaths over the next year. In what was already a time of murderous war, the disease killed millions more on the front lines and in military hospitals in Europe; in some populations in India, the mortality rate for those infected approached 20 percent. The best estimates suggest that as many as 100 million people died from the Great Influenza outbreak that eventually circled the globe. To put that in comparison, roughly three million people have died from Covid-19 over the past year, on a planet with four times as many people.

There was another key difference between these two pandemics. The H1N1 outbreak of 1918-19 was unusually lethal among young adults, normally the most resilient cohort during ordinary flu seasons. Younger people experienced a precipitous drop in expected life during the H1N1 outbreak, while the life expectancies of much older people were unaffected. In the United States, practically overnight, average life expectancy plunged to 47 from 54; in England and Wales, it fell more than a decade, from a historic height of 54 to an Elizabethan-era 41. India experienced average life expectancy below 30 years.

During the century since the end of the Great Influenza outbreak, the average human life span has doubled. There are few measures of human progress more astonishing than this. If you were to publish a newspaper that came out just once a century, the banner headline surely would — or should — be the declaration of this incredible feat. But of course, the story of our extra life span almost never appears on the front page of our actual daily newspapers, because the drama and heroism that have given us those additional years are far more evident in hindsight than they are in the moment. That is, the story of our extra life is a story of progress in its usual form: brilliant ideas and collaborations unfolding far from the spotlight of public attention, setting in motion incremental improvements that take decades to display their true magnitude.

This kind of progress is measured not in events but in nonevents: the smallpox infection that didn’t kill you at age 2; the accidental scrape that didn’t give you a lethal bacterial infection; the drinking water that didn’t poison you with cholera. In a sense, human beings have been increasingly protected by an invisible shield, one that has been built, piece by piece, over the last few centuries, keeping us ever safer and further from death. It protects us through countless interventions, big and small: the chlorine in our drinking water, the ring vaccinations that rid the world of smallpox, the data centers mapping new outbreaks all around the planet.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210503131620/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/04/27/magazine/global-life-span.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:56 AM

THG


Deaths

584,116



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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Deaths

584,116





Nope.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 10:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/two-months-later-hows-the-liftin
g-of-the-mask-mandate-going-in-texas
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LOL

Democrats caught in another huge hypocrisy.

How do they keep doing this to themselves? /rhetorical questions



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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:55 PM

THG


I see the pussy trolls won't post what they believe the death toll from the virus is. No surprise there. They can't because they know the number is the one I've been updating.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
I see the pussy trolls won't post what they believe the death toll from the virus is. No surprise there. They can't because they know the number is the one I've been updating.

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It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO.

Eat shit, worm.

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Friday, May 7, 2021 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO.

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New Study Says U.S. Covid Death Toll Is Actually 900,000, Far Higher Than Reported
By Elliot Hannon May 07, 2021 8:10 AM
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/05/covid-death-toll-underrepo
rted-higher-excess-deaths-study.html


It’s always been near certain that the U.S., along with every other nation, has severely undercounted the number of coronavirus cases and deaths attributed to the virus. The speed and scale of the pandemic made getting an accurate reading of its impact a challenge, but, as of Friday, the numbers in the U.S. currently stand at more than 32 million reported cases resulting in 580,000 deaths. Those numbers compiled by Johns Hopkins are grim, but a new analysis by researchers at the University of Washington puts the death toll in the U.S. far higher at 905,000 deaths.
www.reuters.com/article/healthcoronavirus-casualties/global-covid-19-d
eath-toll-more-than-double-official-estimates-ihme-idUSL4N2MT4FK


The team at the university’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation says the undercount globally is even greater than in the U.S. and that the global death toll is approaching 7 million, more than double the official recorded tally. The researchers found that the number of coronavirus-attributed deaths in a given country is largely dependent on the levels of testing. In most parts of the world, deaths that occur outside a hospital setting don’t get attributed to Covid because they likely were never tested for the virus. The severity of the pandemic has, understandably, meant that health officials have focused their resources on treating patients and saving lives, not surveying the symptoms of the deceased.

The analysis of by the University of Washington researchers came to its revised, higher death toll by using the excess mortality from March 2020 through May 3, 2021 and comparing it to a nonpandemic year with a few adjustments. In the U.S., the researchers said just about all of the excess deaths could numerically be attributed to Covid because increases in certain types of pandemic adjacent deaths, like drug overdoses, were offset by a declines in other areas, like flu deaths, which were far lower last year because everyone was at home.

Undercounting of Covid-19 deaths is greatest in pro-Trump areas, analysis shows
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Tens of thousands of Covid-19 deaths are going unreported in the U.S., with far more missed in counties that strongly supported former President Trump, according to new research.

The figures suggest that political leanings have helped suppress the true scale of deaths. In cases where the deceased didn’t have a Covid-19 test, a coroner or medical examiner has the freedom to interpret symptoms.

“There’s potentially latitude to make a judgement call conditional on a set of beliefs about Covid and whether it represents a serious problem or a hoax,” said Andrew Stokes, a professor of global health at Boston University School of Public Health who performed the analysis for STAT.

https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/25/undercounting-covid-19-deaths-grea
test-in-pro-trump-areas-analysis-shows
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 7, 2021 10:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO.

New Study Says U.S. Covid Death Toll Is Actually 900,000, Far Higher Than Reported



It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO.

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Friday, May 7, 2021 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

It's ZERO. It's always been ZERO.

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I have not known any Texas Trumptards to claim the death toll is zero. You might not be alone, 6ix, but "ZERO" is not a frequent answer when Trumptards are asked the question: "How many Americans died from Covid-19?"

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 7, 2021 10:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm not a Trumptard. I'm not a Republican.

The death count of Covid is ZERO. It has always been ZERO.

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Friday, May 7, 2021 11:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Social Security Sees Slowdown in Retiree Rolls Amid Covid Deaths

The rate of growth in retired Americans who collect Social Security has slowed down sharply, and the drop may be due in part to the disproportionate number of deaths from Covid-19 among the elderly.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-03/social-security-see
s-slowdown-in-retiree-rolls-amid-covid-deaths



All those old people, who were sucking at Jack's money, who died of COVID-19 instead, should put a smile on Jack's face. Maybe he'd even cheer about COVID-19, the way RF did about his dead political adversaries.

Except - nobody dies of COVID-19. So Jack has nothing to cheer about except that all those old people are dead. Bummer.

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Monday, May 10, 2021 7:09 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The death count of Covid is ZERO. It has always been ZERO.

The Pandemic: The true reasons why the West failed

Soon, over 1.5 million people will have died of COVID in Western countries. Meanwhile, in a block of Asia-Pacific countries with a population over twice as big, they lost 18,000 people.

By the way, that death count in the West is an understatement. Counting excess deaths, you get 735,000 COVID deaths in the US. That’s more than all combat deaths the US has ever had (~660k) in all wars.

More at https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2021/05/the-pandemic-the-true-re
asons-why-the-west-failed.html


The countries that did well locked down early on, if and when there were too many cases to handle in any other way. Once case numbers were under control, they kept them low or at zero with a good test-trace-isolate program that included a good border fence.

The European Union started really well, applying a Hammer to reduce cases to a manageable level. By June 30th they were so close!

But then they opened borders and never set up proper test-trace-isolate programs. The rest was written on the wall. The US, meanwhile, never even tried. There, nearly 80% of COVID deaths happened after June 30th 2020, by which time they should have already known how to manage the pandemic properly.

We can say it’s a combination of hesitations and simply poor management. If you live in the West and know somebody who got infected with COVID, ask them about their experience:

Did they immediately receive a call from a contact tracer?

Did they collaborate with the contact tracer?

Did they exhaustively go through all their contacts?

Did the tracers contact all their contacts within 24 hours?

Were they successful getting cooperation from the contacts they called?

Did they get a mandate to stay home?

Were they taken to an isolation facility?

Did an app, the police, or someone else check with them to make sure that they respected the isolation?

Were there mechanisms to penalize those who didn’t respect the isolations?

Was there a similar process for contacts, whereby these were mandated to stay home and their quarantine was monitored, enforced, and penalized if not respected?

Were COVID tests required 24h before a trip? (not 72h)

Were all travelers required to quarantine on arrival?

Was that traveler quarantine monitored and enforced?

Was there a new negative test after 4 or more days required to leave the quarantine?

Every country that has been successful has done some variant of these bullet points. For the countries that failed, they failed at doing most of these points.

For example, most Western governments didn’t get contact tracers’ powers to get cooperation from the people. As a result, many people didn’t want to cooperate, which made tracing contacts extremely difficult.

To take another example, most Western countries still only require a negative COVID test from 72h before arrival. That is an ample window for them to catch the virus and export it.

Western governments were happy fining people who didn’t respect lockdowns—Spain and France had each at least 1 million fines for that—but didn’t fine anybody who skipped isolations and quarantines.

Similarly, most Western governments didn’t set up proper isolation facilities, or didn’t give people money, drugs or food during quarantines.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 10, 2021 8:25 AM

THG


Deaths

587,507

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Monday, May 10, 2021 8:32 AM

THG


CNN's medical analyst called Tucker Carlson a vaccine 'saboteur,' and challenged him to say if he has taken the jab

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cnn-s-medical-analyst-called-tucker-
carlson-a-vaccine-saboteur-and-challenged-him-to-say-if-he-has-taken-the-jab/ar-BB1gz9Ec?ocid=msedgntp



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Monday, May 10, 2021 9:33 AM

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CNN's medical analyst called Tucker Carlson a vaccine 'saboteur,' and challenged him to say if he has taken the jab

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cnn-s-medical-analyst-called-tucker-
carlson-a-vaccine-saboteur-and-challenged-him-to-say-if-he-has-taken-the-jab/ar-BB1gz9Ec?ocid=msedgntp



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Tucker Carlson is pandering to his audience, which isn't vaccinated: About 13% of American adults don’t want a COVID-19 vaccine, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Republicans are the most resistant; nearly 3 in 10 say they don’t want one. The share is greater among rural, Republican men, 35% of whom don’t want to get a vaccine.
www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/04/23/
republican-men-are-vaccine-hesitant-but-theres-little-focus-on-them


Tucker Carlson knows his audience and he says what he must to keep them. Tucker Carlson was the most-watched host in cable news in April, leading all other shows with an average audience of more than 3 million viewers. If Firefly could have modified episodes on Fox within 24 hours, as Tucker Carlson can on Fox, in order to maintain its audience, Firefly would be in its 19th season.
www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/04/27/tucker-carlson-leads-fox-n
ews-to-big-win-in-april-prime-time-ratings
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 10, 2021 10:28 AM

THG


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

CNN's medical analyst called Tucker Carlson a vaccine 'saboteur,' and challenged him to say if he has taken the jab

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cnn-s-medical-analyst-called-tucker-
carlson-a-vaccine-saboteur-and-challenged-him-to-say-if-he-has-taken-the-jab/ar-BB1gz9Ec?ocid=msedgntp



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Tucker Carlson is pandering to his audience, which isn't vaccinated: About 13% of American adults don’t want a COVID-19 vaccine, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Republicans are the most resistant; nearly 3 in 10 say they don’t want one. The share is greater among rural, Republican men, 35% of whom don’t want to get a vaccine.
www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/04/23/
republican-men-are-vaccine-hesitant-but-theres-little-focus-on-them


Tucker Carlson knows his audience and he says what he must to keep them. Tucker Carlson was the most-watched host in cable news in April, leading all other shows with an average audience of more than 3 million viewers. If Firefly could have modified episodes on Fox within 24 hours, as Tucker Carlson can on Fox, in order to maintain its audience, Firefly would be in its 19th season.
www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/04/27/tucker-carlson-leads-fox-n
ews-to-big-win-in-april-prime-time-ratings
/




You're stating the obvious TWO. A not widely known fact is that he has little sponsorship, but for again obvious reasons, FOX keeps him around. His fans are a lesson in stupidity and hatefulness.

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Monday, May 10, 2021 10:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


When you start calling out your own, Ted, people will take you more seriously when you call out people you don't agree with.

That can be applied in the actual real world just like it can be applied here.


Where's your boy Roomba, BTW?

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Monday, May 10, 2021 10:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Tucker Carlson is pandering to his audience, which isn't vaccinated:



That's a very broad and stupid generalization. I give my Grandma shit nearly every day for wasting the last of her years watching nothing but news. She'll argue to me that she watches everything, but any time I've been over there she's always got FOX News on, just like she did when I lived there 20 years ago.

She's vaccinated.

I'd be willing to bet that a lot of people who would watch CNN over FOX aren't vaccinated either.

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About 13% of American adults don’t want a COVID-19 vaccine, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Republicans are the most resistant; nearly 3 in 10 say they don’t want one. The share is greater among rural, Republican men, 35% of whom don’t want to get a vaccine.




Well... these stats are pure bullshit. I've actually been keeping track of these things while doing my passport ban thread.

Even most of the blue states have seen the amount of covid shots being done declining so steeply that they're only taking a small portion of their monthly allotment so they don't go to waste.

Far more than 13% of adults don't want vaccinations.

That's propaganda. They won't be able to keep lying about that soon.

What will they start taking from us first?

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That's a very broad and stupid generalization.

More generalization:

“There is an overrepresentation of governments led by populist leaders among the worst performers” against COVID-19, Frenk told me, also citing the examples of Bolsonaro (Brazil), López Obrador (Mexico), and Trump. “I’m not saying it’s a cause-and-effect relationship,” he added, “but it’s hard to find any example of a country with a populist leader that has done well.”

Frenk listed four common attributes of various populist leaders who have mishandled the pandemic:

First, “the tendency to underestimate or dismiss expertise,” because “experts are considered part of the corrupt elites that the populist leader is going to defend people from”;

second, “the distrust of science” and of the sort of “independent, critical thinking” that populist leaders with authoritarian inclinations dislike;

third, the impulse to divide citizens between the “good people embodied by the populist leader” and “the corrupt elites,” even going so far as to politicize public-health measures such as mask wearing, rather than instilling in the public “a sense of shared destiny”;

and fourth, the instinct to “trap themselves in a narrative” and then “refuse to acknowledge that they were wrong” and correct course, blaming others instead. The governments that have performed best against COVID-19, by contrast, have implemented policies “informed by science and by expertise and by political leaders who unify the country.”

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/covid-19-lays-bare-price-pop
ulism/618838
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COVID-19 Lays Bare the Price of Populism. Price does not mean deaths only, but also economic loss and $trillion government spending, spending which would NOT have been needed but for gross government incompetency at handling the earliest stages of a crisis.

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's a very broad and stupid generalization.

More generalization:



Not interested.

www.theatlantic.com/any article we've ever fabricated/

Also not interested.





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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Not interested.

Trumptards' instincts trap them in a narrative and then they refuse to acknowledge that they were wrong and correct course, blaming others instead. The governments that have performed best against COVID-19, by contrast, have implemented policies informed by science and by expertise and by political leaders who unify the country.

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Nah.

They're just using different fake algorithms when they cook up their fake death numbers.

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Wednesday, May 12, 2021 3:53 PM

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New cases in India 323,000+ ?

Coronavirus live news: India variant found in 44 countries – WHO; Taiwan faces new outbreak
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/may/12/coronavirus-live-ne
ws-india-variant-found-in-44-countries-who-taiwan-faces-new-outbreak?page=with:block-609b44938f08162fadb185d7



cases and deaths by region
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_by_country_and_territo
ry#Cases_and_deaths_by_region


India's COVID-19 death toll exceeds 250,000 after deadliest 24 hours of pandemic
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/india-covid19-death-toll-1.6023704

Rare 'black fungus' increasingly found in COVID-19 patients in India
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/55316
5-rare-black-fungus-increasingly-found-in-covid


What is 'black fungus'? The deadly infection afflicting COVID-19 patients in India
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/what-is-black-fungus-the-dea
dly-infection-afflicting-covid-19-patients-in-india-1.5424962





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Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:49 PM

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The Mutant Indian Evolution is Starting to Arrive?

Coronavirus strain fueling India crisis is the newest ‘variant of concern’ and is spreading globally
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/coronavirus-strain-fueling-i
ndia-crisis-is-the-newest-variant-of-concern-and-is-spreading-globally
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India’s COVID-19 variant arrives in Boise area. It joins several other variants detected here
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/coronavirus/article251391633.html
Idaho Statesman

Nine Republican-Led States Reject All COVID-19 Unemployment Benefits
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/nine-republican-led-states-reject-
all-covid-19-unemployment-benefits


Post Vax Mammograms Showing Alarming Cancer Signs In Healthy Women?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/doctors-fear-covid-19-vaccine
s-are-messing-with-mammograms/ar-BB1gEfBO


Woman, 35, dies from brain bleed days after getting COVID vaccine
https://www.fox17online.com/news/local-news/ionia/ionia-co-womans-deat
h-after-getting-j-j-vaccine-reported-to-the-cdc


Scientists Hopeful That Vaccines Will Work On Coronavirus Variant In India
https://www.nhpr.org/post/scientists-hopeful-vaccines-will-work-corona
virus-variant-india

New Hampshire Public Radio

India variant found in 44 countries


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Saturday, May 15, 2021 5:31 PM

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Deaths 590,463

U.S. administers 270.8 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines: CDC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u-s-administers-270-8-million-doses-
of-covid-19-vaccines-cdc/ar-BB1gLUgG?ocid=msedgntp



Keep up the good work Joe...


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Saturday, May 15, 2021 10:21 PM

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Fake news.

Fuck Joe.

You can have my vaccine and double up. Don't want it to go to waste.



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Saturday, May 15, 2021 10:22 PM

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Oh... and to explain more.

There have been zero deaths due to Covid 19.

And there is no way in hell more than 135 Million Americans are vaccinated.

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A Timeline Of "The Great Reset" Agenda

Authored by Tim Hinchliffe via GlobalResearch.ca,

Say it’s 2014 and you’ve had this idea for a technocratic Great Reset of the world economy for some time now, but it only works if the entire planet is rocked by a pandemic. How do you go about selling your idea?

“The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future” — Klaus Schwab, WEF

If you are World Economic Forum (WEF) Founder Klaus Schwab, you attempt to sell your vision of a global Utopia via a Great Reset of the world order in three simple steps:

Announce your intention to revamp every aspect of society with global governance, and keep repeating that message

When your message isn’t getting through, simulate fake pandemic scenarios that show why the world needs a great reset

If the fake pandemic scenarios aren’t persuasive enough, wait a couple months for a real global crisis to occur, and repeat step one

It took Schwab and the Davos elite about six years to watch their great reset ideology grow from a tiny Swiss seed in 2014 to a European super-flower pollinating the entire globe in 2020.

The so-called “Great Reset” promises to build “a more secure, more equal, and more stable world” if everyone on the planet agrees to “act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions.”

But it wouldn’t have been possible to contemplate materializing such an all-encompassing plan for a new world order without a global crisis, be it manufactured or of unfortunate happenstance, that shocked society to its core.

“In the end, the outcome was tragic: the most catastrophic pandemic in history with hundreds of millions of deaths, economic collapse and societal upheaval” — Clade X pandemic simulation (May, 2018)

So, in May, 2018, the WEF partnered with Johns Hopkins to simulate a fictitious pandemic — dubbed “Clade X” — to see how prepared the world be if ever faced with such a crisis.

A little over a year later, the WEF once again teamed-up with Johns Hopkins, along with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to stage another pandemic exercise called Event 201 in October, 2019.

Both simulations concluded that the world wasn’t prepared for a global pandemic.

And a few short months following the conclusion of Event 201, which specifically simulated a coronavirus outbreak, the World Health Organization (WHO) officially declared that the coronavirus had reached pandemic status on March 11, 2020.

“The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019)

Since then, just about every scenario covered in the Clade X and Event 201 simulations has come into play, including:

Governments implementing lockdowns worldwide

The collapse of many industries

Growing mistrust between governments and citizens

A greater adoption of biometric surveillance technologies

Social media censorship in the name of combating misinformation

The desire to flood communication channels with “authoritative” sources

A global lack of personal protective equipment

The breakdown of international supply chains

Mass unemployment

Rioting in the streets

And a whole lot more!

After the nightmare scenarios had fully materialized by mid-2020, the WEF founder declared “now is the time for a “Great Reset” in June of this year.

Was it excellent forecasting, planning, and modeling on the part of the WEF and partners that Clade X and Event 201 turned out to be so prophetic, or was there something more to it?
Timeline

Below is a condensed timeline of events that tracks the Great Reset agenda that went from just a “hope” in 2014 to a globalist ideology touted by royalty, the media, and heads of state the world-over in 2020.

2014-2017: Klaus Schwab calls for Great Reset and WEF repeats message

Ahead of the 2014 WEF meeting in Davos, Switzerland, Schwab announced that he hoped the WEF would push the reset button on the global economy.

The ‘Great Reset’: A Technocratic Agenda that Waited Years for a Global Crisis to Exploit

The WEF would go on to repeat that message for years.

Between 2014 and 2017, the WEF called to reshape, restart, reboot, and reset the global order every single year, each aimed at solving various “crises.”

2014: WEF publishes meeting agenda entitled “The Reshaping of the World: Consequences for Society, Politics and Business.”

2015: WEF publishes article in collaboration with VOX EU called “We need to press restart on the global economy.”

2016: WEF holds panel called “How to reboot the global economy.”

2017: WEF publishes article saying “Our world needs a reset in how we operate.”

Then in 2018, the Davos elites turned their heads towards simulating fake pandemic scenarios to see how prepared the world would be in the face of a different crisis.

2018-2019: WEF, Johns Hopkins & Gates Foundation simulate fake pandemics

On May 15, 2018, Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted the “Clade X” pandemic exercise in partnership with the WEF.

The Clade X exercise included mock video footage of actors giving scripted news reports about a fake pandemic scenario (video below).

The Clade X event also included discussion panels with real policymakers who assessed that governments and industry were not adequately prepared for the fictitious global pandemic.

“In the end, the outcome was tragic: the most catastrophic pandemic in history with hundreds of millions of deaths, economic collapse and societal upheaval,” according to a WEF report on Clade X.

“There are major unmet global vulnerabilities and international system challenges posed by pandemics that will require new robust forms of public-private cooperation to address” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019)

Then on October 18, 2019, in partnership with Johns Hopkins and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the WEF ran Event 201.

During the scenario, the entire global economy was shaken, there were riots on the streets, and high-tech surveillance measures were needed to “stop the spread.”

Two fake pandemics were simulated in the two years leading up to the real coronavirus crisis.

“Governments will need to partner with traditional and social media companies to research and develop nimble approaches to countering misinformation” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019)

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security issued a public statement on January 24, 2020, explicitly addressing that Event 201 wasn’t meant to predict the future.

“To be clear, the Center for Health Security and partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise. For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction. Instead, the exercise served to highlight preparedness and response challenges that would likely arise in a very severe pandemic.”

Intentional or not, Event 201 “highlighted” the “fictional” challenges of a pandemic, along with recommendations that go hand-in-hand with the great reset agenda that has set up camp in the nefarious “new normal.”

“The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019)

Together, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation submitted seven recommendations for governments, international organizations, and global business to follow in the event of a pandemic.

The Event 201 recommendations call for greater collaboration between the public and private sectors while emphasizing the importance of establishing partnerships with un-elected, global institutions such as the WHO, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, and the International Air Transport Organization, to carry out a centralized response.

One of the recommendations calls for governments to partner with social media companies and news organization to censor content and control the flow of information.

“Media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed including though [sic] the use of technology” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019)

According to the report, “Governments will need to partner with traditional and social media companies to research and develop nimble approaches to countering misinformation.

“National public health agencies should work in close collaboration with WHO to create the capability to rapidly develop and release consistent health messages.

“For their part, media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed including though [sic] the use of technology.”

Sound familiar?

Throughout 2020, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube have been censoring, suppressing, and flagging any coronavirus-related information that goes against WHO recommendations as a matter of policy, just as Event 201 had recommended.

Big tech companies have also deployed the same content suppression tactics during the 2020 US presidential election — slapping “disputed” claims on content that question election integrity.

2020: WEF declares ‘Now is the time for a Great Reset’

After calling for a great reset in 2014, the Davos crowd repeated the same ideology for a few more years before pivoting towards simulating faux pandemic scenarios.

A few months after the WEF established that nobody was prepared to deal with a coronavirus pandemic, the WHO declared there was a coronavirus pandemic.

All of a sudden! the great reset narrative that the WEF had been nurturing for six years, found a place to pitch its tent in the “new normal” camp.

“The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future,” Schwab declared on June 3, 2020.

And that’s where we’re at today.

The Davos elites said they wanted a global reset of the economy many years ago

They role-played what would happen if a pandemic were to occur

And now they’re saying that the great reset ideology is the solution to the pandemic, and it must be enacted quickly

The great reset is a means to an end.

Next on the agenda is a complete makeover of society under a technocratic regime of un-elected bureaucrats who want to dictate how the world is run from the top down, leveraging invasive technologies to track and trace your every move while censoring and silencing anyone who dares not comply.



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How COVID broke the evidence pipeline

The pandemic stress-tested the way the world produces evidence — and revealed all the flaws. The evidence revolution: The idea that medicine should be based on research and evidence is a surprisingly recent development. Many doctors practising today weren’t taught too much about clinical trials in medical school. It was standard to offer advice largely on the basis of opinion and experience, which, in practice, often meant following the advice of the most senior physician in the room. (Today, this is sometimes called eminence-based medicine.)

Kari Tikkinen, a urologist at the University of Helsinki who had run clinical trials in the past, was shocked early last year to talk to physicians who were so confident that untested therapies such as hydroxychloroquine were effective that they questioned the need to test them in clinical trials. It was “hype-based medicine”, he says — fuelled by former US president Donald Trump, who announced last May that he had started taking the drug himself. “It very quickly got ahead of us, where people were prescribing any variety of crazy choices for COVID,” says Reed Siemieniuk, a doctor and methodologist at McMaster University.

It wasn’t long into the pandemic before Simon Carley realized we had an evidence problem. It was early 2020, and COVID-19 infections were starting to lap at the shores of the United Kingdom, where Carley is an emergency-medicine doctor at hospitals in Manchester. Carley is also a specialist in evidence-based medicine — the transformative idea that physicians should decide how to treat people by referring to rigorous evidence, such as clinical trials.

As cases of COVID-19 climbed in February, Carley thought that clinicians were suddenly abandoning evidence and reaching for drugs just because they sounded biologically plausible. Early studies Carley saw being published often lacked control groups or enrolled too few people to draw firm conclusions. “We were starting to treat patients with these drugs initially just on what seemed like a good idea,” he says. He understood the desire to do whatever is possible for someone gravely ill, but he also knew how dangerous it is to assume a drug works when so many promising treatments prove to be ineffective — or even harmful — in trials. “The COVID-19 pandemic has arguably been one of the greatest challenges to evidence-based medicine since the term was coined in the last century,” Carley and his colleagues wrote of the problems they were seeing.

Other medical experts echo these concerns. With the pandemic now deep into its second year, it’s clear the crisis has exposed major weaknesses in the production and use of research-based evidence — failures that have inevitably cost lives. Researchers have registered more than 2,900 clinical trials related to COVID-19, but the majority are too small or poorly designed to be of much use (see ‘Small samples’). Organizations worldwide have scrambled to synthesize the available evidence on drugs, masks and other key issues, but can’t keep up with the outpouring of new research, and often repeat others’ work. There’s been “research waste at an unprecedented scale”, says Huseyin Naci, who studies health policy at the London School of Economics.


At the same time, shining examples of good practice have emerged: medical advances based on rigorous evidence have helped to chart a route out of the pandemic. The rapid trials of vaccines were spectacular successes, and well-run trials of possible treatments have shown, for instance, that some steroids help to fight COVID-19, but the drug hydroxychloroquine doesn’t. Many physicians point to the United Kingdom’s RECOVERY trial as exemplary in showing how quick action and simple protocols make it possible to conduct a large clinical trial in a crisis. And researchers have launched ‘living’ systematic reviews that are constantly updated as research emerges — essential in a fast-moving disease outbreak.

As the COVID-19 response turns from a sprint to a marathon, researchers are taking stock and looking ahead. In October, global-health leaders will meet for three days to discuss what’s been learnt from COVID-19 about supplying evidence in health emergencies. COVID-19 is a stress test that revealed the flaws in systems that produce evidence, says Elie Akl, an internal-medicine specialist and clinical epidemiologist at the American University of Beirut. “It would be shameful if we come out of this experience and not make the necessary change for the next crisis.”

More at www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01246-x

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Covid did a lot of things...

Except for kill anybody.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Covid did a lot of things...

Except for kill anybody.

6ix, I'm pretty sure you didn't click on the article at Nature www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01246-x

The article talked about the difference between evidence-based and eminence-based medicine. 6ix, you don't have any evidence about Covid-19 deaths being zero, nor are you eminent, but you are crazy and stupid, so double win for you and all Trumptards! Is anyone surprised that 6ix, and Trumptards, generally struggle to stay in the middle class? America is not a kind and gentle land for the stupid and the crazy, even if white.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Covid did a lot of things...

Except for kill anybody.

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SIX is in deep denial about this. But he's pretty reality-based about most other things, unlike SECONDRATE.

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Nah.

I'm right about this too.




P.S. Covid killed the flu.

Remember the flu?

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So the US was funding Chinese virus research and Fauci lied about it and continues to lie about it, huh?

That sounds like a guy you can trust.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Covid did a lot of things...

Except for kill anybody.

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SIX is in deep denial about this. But he's pretty reality-based about most other things, unlike SECONDRATE.

So...how does one tell the difference between a fully vaccinated person and a not vaccinated person?

Ask them who won the election.

www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/04/05/more-than-half-of-republi
cans-believe-voter-fraud-claims-and-most-still-support-trump-poll-finds
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So...how does one tell the difference between a fully vaccinated person and a not vaccinated person?



Not true at all. My Grandma's vaxxed and she knows who won the election.

It also sounds to me like Kiki and Sigs are vaxxed and they don't share your viewpoints on the outcome of the election either.

And I don't talk politics with people IRL. Especially strangers.


If somebody I don't know comes up to me out of the blue and asks me who won the election, that's how I know that person isn't worth ever talking to again, and I appreciate them letting me know that up front.

I'll give them a smile. Maybe a little chuckle. Then I'll walk away from them and never give them a second glance.



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
So...how does one tell the difference between a fully vaccinated person and a not vaccinated person?



Not true at all. My Grandma's vaxxed and she knows who won the election.

Who does your Grandma "know" won? Unvaccinated Texas Trumptards "know" that Trump "won," but Biden "stole" the election and Trump will be inaugurated on January 20, 2025.

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Just imagine where we would be today if effective vaccines had not been developed. Our current strategy of moderate social distancing, intermittent partial lockdowns, and economic assistance for businesses and the unemployed would not have been sustainable for another 1 or 2 years as the covid virus slowly burned its way through an unvaccinated population. We would inevitably have shifted to a different approach – very likely a de facto “herd immunity” strategy that lets the virus rip. Perhaps we would have offered some additional protections to the most vulnerable, but I doubt it.

An alternative strategy of mass testing, contact tracing, careful and humane isolation of infected people, widespread availability of high-quality masks, and improved treatments would have been far preferable, but we did not do the necessary preparation to implement it, even though quick development of an effective vaccine was considered unlikely by many experts, and the value of increasing testing capacity and mask production was understood by many academics, policymakers, and practitioners.

The value of an aggressive, multi-pronged approach to virus suppression and treatment would have been even higher if covid had been more transmissible or had a higher infection fatality rate.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/05/grading-the-u-s-response-to-the-pand
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Thursday, May 20, 2021 10:45 AM

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So...how does one tell the difference between a fully vaccinated person and a not vaccinated person?



Not true at all. My Grandma's vaxxed and she knows who won the election.

Who does your Grandma "know" won? Unvaccinated Texas Trumptards "know" that Trump "won," but Biden "stole" the election and Trump will be inaugurated on January 20, 2025.

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The answer to your question is self evident given the context of the post.

I'll let you think about it for a while.



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Thursday, May 20, 2021 10:47 AM

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Just imagine where we would be today if effective vaccines had not been developed. Our current strategy of moderate social distancing, intermittent partial lockdowns, and economic assistance for businesses and the unemployed would not have been sustainable for another 1 or 2 years as the covid virus slowly burned its way through an unvaccinated population. We would inevitably have shifted to a different approach – very likely a de facto “herd immunity” strategy that lets the virus rip. Perhaps we would have offered some additional protections to the most vulnerable, but I doubt it.

An alternative strategy of mass testing, contact tracing, careful and humane isolation of infected people, widespread availability of high-quality masks, and improved treatments would have been far preferable, but we did not do the necessary preparation to implement it, even though quick development of an effective vaccine was considered unlikely by many experts, and the value of increasing testing capacity and mask production was understood by many academics, policymakers, and practitioners.

The value of an aggressive, multi-pronged approach to virus suppression and treatment would have been even higher if covid had been more transmissible or had a higher infection fatality rate.

https://angrybearblog.com/2021/05/grading-the-u-s-response-to-the-pand
emic


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Or maybe we'd say fuck fear and stop living like cowards.

Even with the artificially hyper-inflated numbers, hardly anybody died.

Or to put it another way, there are A LOT more human beings living on this earth today than there were on the day the US Funded Chinese Lab let this thing out.



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Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:46 AM

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Even with the artificially hyper-inflated numbers, hardly anybody died.

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The devastation of the past year has come with one big silver lining: a massive leap forward in vaccine development.

The Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccines were made possible by recent innovations in vaccine platform technology. Vaccines, which generally required the use of dead or inactive viruses, used to take years to develop. The new generation of mRNA vaccines (in the case of Pfizer and Moderna) and adenovirus vaccines (in the case of Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca) has simplified the process of developing vaccines for new diseases.

What used to take months and years can now take weeks — or less. In the case of the Moderna vaccine, for instance, it took three days. The “recipe” for the Moderna vaccine was developed in January 2020, before Covid-19 even flared up in the US.

But it’s one thing to come up with a vaccine, and entirely something else to manufacture it on a mass scale. That’s where the world has stumbled and where concerted planning now can make sure we’re prepared for the future. If we’re to have a better chance to fight the next pandemic — and there will be a next one — the US needs to build on these vaccine tech innovations and make investments to establish permanent facilities producing mRNA and adenovirus vaccines.

Vaccine facilities that are up and running 365 days a year — and that could be redirected to pump out different vaccines depending on the outbreak — would be a tremendous weapon for global public health.

And the cost would be well worth it. More than 3.4 million people around the world have died from Covid-19. The cost to the world economy totals $22 trillion.

www.vox.com/future-perfect/22397914/vaccine-mrna-adenovirus-manufactur
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Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:50 PM

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3.4 million people died of other things and were going to die anyhow.

The overreaction and the lies led to the loss of $22 Trillion.

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Thursday, May 20, 2021 8:27 PM

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No, Texas Has Not Had Zero COVID-19 Deaths Since It Lifted Its Mask Mandate

Author Kevin Drum Published on May 20, 2021 – 3:43 pm

Rep. Lauren Boebert went on TV—well, Real America's Voice, anyway—to claim that Texas hasn't had a single COVID-19 death since it lifted its mask mandate on March 2. Needless to say, it takes about 60 seconds to get the real data from the CDC:


Texas was heading steadily downward, but within 30 days of ending its mask mandate deaths from COVID-19 went back up. Total deaths since March 2 amount to a bit less than 4,000. And how is Texas doing now?

Texas is currently one of the worst states for COVID-19 mortality.

So why would Boebert say something so ridiculous? The best answer, I suppose, is that it's Lauren Boebert. What do you expect? But the other answer is that this is an example of Republicans literally being able to say anything. They know their audience will believe them, and they'll never be fact checked in any sense that will hurt them. So if you're going to make stuff up, why not go whole hog?

https://jabberwocking.com/no-texas-has-not-had-zero-covid-19-deaths-si
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Thursday, May 20, 2021 9:24 PM

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Lies, lies.

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