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Thursday, November 4, 2021 2:41 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Anybody who's ever seen anybody on a bad trip knows that people say a lot of dumb shit when they think they're dying.

Facing your imminent death has a way of clarifying what's really important your life.

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 2:50 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Personally, I don't care about other people getting vaccinated. It's no skin off my nose. Socially otoh, unvaccinated people taking weeks of expensive care to die is a drain on society.


I'd be really curious tho what the immune status is of vaccinated people who do get breakthrough infections and get over them. I bet both their humoral and cell-mediated immune responses are exceptionally robust.

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 3:39 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I wondered how many folk tried a Halloween costume of a big diaper on their chin and a nametag saying Karen?

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 6:35 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated.



If that's true, than what do you give a shit about it for if you're vaccinated?

Take your vaccination and shove it up your ass.

I'm good.

Getting vaccinated and paying taxes, why should I care if you do either? I've listened to people for hours about how paying taxes is the same as having their freedom stolen. Same about vaccinations steal their freedom. I've heard from those people how to not pay and not get caught. Casually looking at those people, I can't tell if they cheated on taxes or not. But I can't tell by casually looking if they are vaccinated or not. There are so many small and large secrets those kind of people fear being discovered. They have many anxieties and distresses I never feel.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 7:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Personally, I don't care about other people getting vaccinated. It's no skin off my nose. Socially otoh, unvaccinated people taking weeks of expensive care to die is a drain on society.



If you start talking like that, then you'd better be willing to acknowledge the same thing for fat people, alcoholics, people who drink more than 24 ounces of soda in a day, smokers, the lazy, or anybody who does anything that the nanny state doesn't approve of and watch them enforce what you can and can't do through penalties on your health insurance.

Fuck that world. You can have it, Karen.

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 7:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated.



If that's true, than what do you give a shit about it for if you're vaccinated?

Take your vaccination and shove it up your ass.

I'm good.

Getting vaccinated and paying taxes, why should I care if you do either? I've listened to people for hours about how paying taxes is the same as having their freedom stolen. Same about vaccinations steal their freedom. I've heard from those people how to not pay and not get caught. Casually looking at those people, I can't tell if they cheated on taxes or not. But I can't tell by casually looking if they are vaccinated or not. There are so many small and large secrets those kind of people fear being discovered. They have many anxieties and distresses I never feel.



Whether you believe it was or it wasn't, that was not an answer to the question.

Try again.

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 2:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Personally, I don't care about other people getting vaccinated. It's no skin off my nose. Socially otoh, unvaccinated people taking weeks of expensive care to die is a drain on society.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If you start talking like that, then you'd better be willing to acknowledge the same thing for fat people, alcoholics, people who drink more than 24 ounces of soda in a day, smokers, the lazy, or anybody who does anything that the nanny state doesn't approve of and watch them enforce what you can and can't do through penalties on your health insurance.

Fuck that world. You can have it, Karen.

Your comparison is faulty. Vaccination is quick, cheap and easy. And this vaccine is extremely successful in keeping people out of intensive care, and keeping people alive. OTOH taking months - or years - to help people kick their addiction(s) is an intensive, laborious process, with a really low chance of success. For example, despite losing your teeth and getting really sick with the flu every year, have you quit smoking yet? And why not? Cost v benefit-wise, there's really no comparison.

BTW, your go-to troll essential personality is showing. You really are completely unable to discuss anything with anyone who might disagree with you without launching personal attacks, aren't you?


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Thursday, November 4, 2021 7:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My comparison is sound.

I didn't bother reading anything you had to say past that.



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Thursday, November 4, 2021 9:53 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Researchers discovered an increase in cognitive deficits in those that had previously contracted COVID-19.

“The cognitive deficits remained whether ongoing symptoms were there or not, and did not depend on time since covid either. This seems to suggest it is a long-lasting effect. It also doesn't depend on pre-existing health problems.”

The most pronounced deficits in COVID-19 patients were those of reasoning, problem-solving, spatial planning, and target detection.

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/recovered-covid-patient
s-may-have-significantly-reduced-intelligence-suggests-large-study
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 10:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Researchers discovered an increase in cognitive deficits in those that had previously contracted COVID-19.



BULLSHIT

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 10:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Say hello to the future President of the United States.



YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THE PREDICTIONS THREAD.

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Researchers discovered an increase in cognitive deficits in those that had previously contracted COVID-19.



BULLSHIT

Rand Paul was the first-known senator to be diagnosed with COVID-19 when he contracted the virus in March 2020.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rand-paul-covid-19-vaccine/

Paul lost his marbles to Covid-19. Today, Paul showed cognitive deficits when he calls for Anthony Fauci to resign in latest clash over origins of COVID-19. Fauci never had Covid-19. By the way, Trump was hospitalized for Covid-19, where he lost all his marbles.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/04/rand-paul-call
s-fauci-resign-latest-clash-covid-origins/6283791001
/

99.5% of deaths from COVID-19 are in unvaccinated people.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/08/10142
14448/fauci-says-current-vaccines-will-stand-up-to-the-delta-variant


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 5, 2021 7:13 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Researchers discovered an increase in cognitive deficits in those that had previously contracted COVID-19.



BULLSHIT

Trump has cognitive deficits from covid-19

October 2020: What We Know Of President Trump's COVID-19 Diagnosis, Treatment
https://www.npr.org/sections/latest-updates-trump-covid-19-results/202
0/10/03/919898777/timeline-what-we-know-of-president-trumps-covid-19-diagnosis


December 2020: Barr tells The Associated Press in a bombshell interview that the Justice Department didn't find widespread fraud. After the story is published, Trump confronts Barr in the White House. According to a book by Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, an "explosive and crazed" Trump berates Barr for publicly admitting that there wasn't widespread fraud. Barr tells Trump his campaign lawyers are a "clown show" and that his fraud claims are "complete nonsense."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/politics/january-6-timeline-trump-coup/
index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 5, 2021 8:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So what was Diversity Hire Psaki's excuse? She was a dipshit long before she got Covid. What's your excuse?

And are you saying that Trump and Paul only became a problem for you AFTER they got Covid?

Please tell me that's what you're trying to say, hypocrite.



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Friday, November 5, 2021 9:24 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So what was Diversity Hire Psaki's excuse? She was a dipshit long before she got Covid. What's your excuse?

And are you saying that Trump and Paul only became a problem for you AFTER they got Covid?

Please tell me that's what you're trying to say, hypocrite.

I don't know or care who Psaki is, but you claim "Bullshit" on the scientific data that Covid-19 causes people to act stupid and fail at problem solving. Rand Paul and Trump show that Covid-19 does cause people to be stupid failures. Have you had Covid-19, 6ix? Just asking because of the stories you tell about your life experiences don't suggest success.

6ix's story this morning is classic 6ix stupidity wrapped in a highly articulate package: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64590&mid=11441
30#1144130
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I'm a man without any history. I'm a European Mutt. Western and Eastern. I know nothing of the history of the countries they came from except for stereotypes and whatever they taught us in the world history books that are always rewritten and changed every 5 or 10 years here in America, so that means about nothing.

The only thing I know is that my Grandmother caught hell in school during WWII for her German last name, which I won't post here, and she's afraid that we were related since her parents would never talk about it.

6ix's grandma is Hitler.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 5, 2021 9:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
I don't know or care who Psaki is



That's because you're an uninformed idiot.

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6ix's grandma is Hitler.


How imaginative.

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Friday, November 5, 2021 10:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I don't know or care who Psaki is



That's because you're an uninformed idiot.

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6ix's grandma is Hitler.


How imaginative.

That is no answer. I will quote you: "The only thing I know is that my Grandmother caught hell in school during WWII for her German last name, which I won't post here, and she's afraid that we were related since her parents would never talk about it." 6ix, what is grandma's maiden name? You suspected you had a case of Covid-19 with symptoms short of being hospitalized. Many people who haven't been hospitalized have shown in tests a large mental decline after a small case of Covid-19.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 5, 2021 12:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There was A LOT of German people and businesses that changed their names during WWII in the USA.

Back in the day when there were real butcher shops, there was a shop called "Federal Meats", but I learned from my mom that it used to have a very German name ("Kaiser Meats) but they changed it.

Wow, you don't know much about history, do you?

I guess that's what comes of rewriting history and tearing statues down and lying to yourself all the time.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Friday, November 5, 2021 2:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
You suspected you had a case of Covid-19 with symptoms short of being hospitalized. Many people who haven't been hospitalized have shown in tests a large mental decline after a small case of Covid-19.



WTF are you talking about? You're never going to find proof of that post because that never happened. Did you get covid? Sounds like you're on a steep mental decline.

As for the German name thing, Sigs already covered it.

I'll just add that of course you went straight to Hitler, because you're a Leftist idiot and it's the only German last name you ever heard of.


Oh... P.S.

As a public service announcement for you, Diversity Hire Jen Psaki is Lyin' Biden*'s vaccinated press secretary who got covid last Friday.

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Friday, November 5, 2021 5:00 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Comparing the COVID-19 Vaccines: How Are They Different?
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison

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Doctors warn of deadly spike in melanomas as COVID-19 lockdown sees drop in skin checks
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-05/doctors-warn-of-melanoma-spoke-
after-covid-lockdown/100594820



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Aaron Rodgers reveals he's unvaccinated, takes ivermectin and bashes 'woke mob'
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/aaron-rodgers-says-he-takes-iverm
ectin-claims-covid-vaccine-allergy-n1283363


Troops who refuse COVID vaccines won’t be guaranteed veterans benefits, officials warn
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/11/03/troops
-who-refuse-covid-vaccines-wont-be-guaranteed-veterans-benefits-officials-warn
/

First oral antiviral for COVID-19, Lagevrio (molnupiravir), approved by MHRA
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-oral-antiviral-for-covid-19-l
agevrio-molnupiravir-approved-by-mhra


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Study shows dramatic decline in effectiveness of all three COVID-19 vaccines over time
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-11-04/study-shows-dramatic-
decline-in-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccines


German soccer game called off after 18 virus cases at club
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-soccer-sports-health-0
6c63e75fdcd12513b84fea028dc7e90


Experts believe Russia's COVID death toll is almost four times higher than government reports
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/experts-believe-russias-covid-death-toll
-is-almost-four-times-higher-than-government-reports
/


Governor Ron DeSantis plans lawsuit to stop Biden Administration's vaccine mandate
https://rumble.com/voqr14-governor-ron-desantis-plans-lawsuit-to-stop-
biden-administrations-vaccine-m.html


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Biden Admin Issues COVID Vaccine Mandate for Large Companies
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RWJdbldMknna/




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USA Deaths 773,000
Brazil 608,715
India 459,880

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

USA Cases 47,235,000
India 34,333,199
Brazil 21,849,137



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Biden Covid Deaths

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/biden-covid-death-tracker/

338,000 + Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.

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Friday, November 5, 2021 7:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


DeSantis isn't the only one fighting this. There are a lot of others.

You should watch DeSantis' press conference on it last night. I know it's long, but it's a very worthwhile watch.

That man answered more questions from the press in 10 minutes last night than Biden* ever will in 4 years as President.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:08 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Japan reports no COVID-related deaths for first time in 15 months

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/11/07/national/japan-coronaviru
s-november7
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Sunday, November 7, 2021 10:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


For Whom Do the Covid “Fact Checkers” Really Work?

https://brownstone.org/articles/for-whom-do-the-covid-fact-checkers-re
ally-work
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There are two types of COVID19 survivors— those who have documented recovery from sars-cov-2 (either PCR, antigen or serology + tests) or those who have self-identified recovery from sars-cov 2 (said they had it).

When it comes to the former group, we know with confidence, the chance they get re-infected and severely ill is very very low, and far lower than people who have not yet had and recovered from COVID19 (this is called natural immunity). The data in support of this is massive, and quite certain. Antibody data is beside the point— we care about the thing in itself getting sick.

So do these people (those who recovered) benefit from vaccination? Current data is solely observational— and that is a huge problem. If you compare people with recovery who chose to get the vax vs. those who chose not to get it— you are comparing very different types of people. Their behavior, and appetite to take risks (going out to crowded places) may also be different. We know both groups have very low rates of re-infection, but direct comparisons to assess vaccine efficacy after recovery are fraught.

The right answer would be to conduct an RCT of vaccination among those who recovered. It could have 3 arms. No further doses; 1 dose, or 2 doses. It could be large (after all, millions have recovered), and powered to look for rates of severe disease. In the absence of this, experts are largely speculating.

So here is what blows my mind: We are living in a world where the CDC director can say something that is false, made-up and no institution will say otherwise. [that masks reduce risk of infection by more than 80%] At the same time, major, venerable fact checking institutions are literally asserting as fact something which is at best unproven.

No matter how you feel about these issues; these are dangerous times. Truth and falsehood is not a matter of science but cultural power— the ability to proclaim and define the truth. If this continues, dark times lie ahead. Someday soon, we may not like who defines the truth.



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Monday, November 8, 2021 7:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Appeals court stays vaccine mandate on larger businesses

https://apnews.com/article/appeals-court-stays-vaccine-mandate-coronav
irus-biden-b235b6fa858bd23b02ab5f9c009428db


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Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said the action stops President Joe Biden “from moving forward with his unlawful overreach.”

“The president will not impose medical procedures on the American people without the checks and balances afforded by the constitution,” said a statement from Landry, a Republican.



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Monday, November 8, 2021 7:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Vaccine mandates buoyed by bogus polls give GOP golden ticket to win

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/6/vaccine-mandates-buoye
d-by-bogus-polls-give-gop-go
/

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In late September, Gallup sent out some shockwaves with this headline: “Majority in U.S. Supports Biden COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates.” Gallup went on to write, “Americans generally support vaccination mandates, including for air travel, attendance at crowded events and other activities” and 63% of U.S. adults also support “vaccination requirements for teachers and staff in K-12 schools.”

Well, no.

Not true.

Keep reading.

The truth is actually that Democrats support these mandates. Republicans do not. And Independents are split.

By Gallup’s own numbers, between 93% and 94% of Democrats favor vaccine mandates for federal workers, for employees at private companies with 100 or more workers, for workers at hospitals that receive Medicare and Medicaid funds, and for paid time off for employees to deal with COVID-19 issues. By Gallup’s own numbers, too, only 19% of Republicans favor vaccine requirements for federal workers, 17%, for privately employed workers, 25% for hospital workers, and 33% for the paid time off deal.

So how is it that we arrive at the idea the “majority in U.S.” support the Joe Biden-type vaccine mandates — as Gallup wrote? As after which many, many, many in the media then reported?

That was September. The deceptions continue.

From Politico, on October 9, this headline: “POLITICO-Harvard poll: Most Americans support vaccine mandates for school kids.”

Again, keep reading. The truth will come. Eventually.

“Nearly three in four Democrats favor a vaccine mandate for the students while 59 percent of Republicans are opposed,” Politico wrote. “Just over half of self-described independents also are against the mandates.”

In other words, about three-quarters of Democrats want the mandates on kids; most Republicans and most independents, do not.

Once again, the headline, the summary line, the Twitter message, the shared social media takeaway becomes this: A majority of Americans want COVID-19 mandated vaccines for school kids. A majority in America support vaccine mandates for children.

No. They don’t.

A majority of Democrats do — but that’s because the majority of Democrats are the ones using the coronavirus as tools to oppress and control. It’s Joe Biden and Joe Biden’s socialist-fueled White House and Joe Biden’s globalist-infiltrated administration and Joe Biden’s band of merry Marxists masquerading as members of the Democrat Party who have taken this coronavirus and run roughshod over individual liberties for going on two years now, all the while claiming that science dictates this, oh wait a minute, now science dictates that, oh wait just another second, science now dictates this — all the while expecting the good people of America to jump, jump, don’t ask questions, just jump — it’s these types who’ve taken a virus and exploited it for personal agenda.

As for those who did ask questions?

Booted from social media. Silenced by the left’s partners in Big Tech. Mocked and shamed and targeted for attack by the left.



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Monday, November 8, 2021 12:49 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


L.A. Movie Theaters, Restaurants Will Require Proof of COVID-19 Vaccination

https://variety.com/2021/biz/news/los-angeles-covid-vaccination-proof-
movie-theaters-restaurants-1235105494
/

New data estimates thousands of Australians are living with undiagnosed cancers after COVID-19 lockdowns
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/thousands-living-with-undiagnos
ed-cancers-covid-19-lockdowns/100595846


One in four vaccinated people living in households with a covid-19 case become infected, study finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2638

COVID-19 in India: AY.4.2 Not Yet a Variant of Concern
https://fit.thequint.com/coronavirus/ay42-not-a-matter-of-concern-indi
a


Brazil becomes second worst Covid-19 country; a time bomb for neighboring countries, WHO reports
https://en.mercopress.com/2021/03/15/brazil-becomes-second-worst-covid
-19-country-a-time-bomb-for-neighboring-countries-who-reports



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Monday, November 8, 2021 1:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
One in four vaccinated people living in households with a covid-19 case become infected, study finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2638

That shows that vaccines are even better at preventing breakthrough infections than previous estimates, that put it at about 66%.

And these are vaccines that weren't designed to prevent infections! That's because infection and transmission take place at the mucosal surfaces. Since this vaccine is injected, it doesn't stimulate mucosal antibodies, only internal antibodies delivered through the blood. The vaccines were specifically designed to prevent serious illness and death. Also remember, there is NO vaccine - no matter how good - that's 100% effective. So breakthrough infections shouldn't be used as a measure of success or failure for these vaccines.

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Monday, November 8, 2021 2:32 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Biden Covid Deaths

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/biden-covid-death-tracker/

341,700 + Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office.





https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

USA Cases 47,337,000 +
India 34,374,455
Brazil 21,880,439

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Monday, November 8, 2021 8:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
One in four vaccinated people living in households with a covid-19 case become infected, study finds
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2638

That shows that vaccines are even better at preventing breakthrough infections than previous estimates, that put it at about 66%.

And these are vaccines that weren't designed to prevent infections! That's because infection and transmission take place at the mucosal surfaces. Since this vaccine is injected, it doesn't stimulate mucosal antibodies, only internal antibodies delivered through the blood. The vaccines were specifically designed to prevent serious illness and death. Also remember, there is NO vaccine - no matter how good - that's 100% effective. So breakthrough infections shouldn't be used as a measure of success or failure for these vaccines.



That came as a big fucking surprise to all of the people who ran out and got the vaccine just to make this all go away when those Texas Democrats all had breakthrough cases from swapping spit or whatever they were doing on that plane flight.

The media didn't tell anybody that it wasn't going to prevent infection until at least 50% of Americans were already vaccinated. There's a lot of buyer's remorse out there now, but you never hear about it because the internet is so heavily censored regarding Covid.

I'm not accusing you of pretending that the Media was up front and honest about any of this, but don't ignore the fact that they lied by omission either.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 6:13 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



When the vaccines were first being developed, all the caveats about infections v serious illnesses and deaths were thoroughly and frequently reported. They seemed to be lowering expectations.

After the vaccines tested out as preventing roughly 85% of infections against the alpha COVID-19 strain was when the facts were blurred. There was A LOT of weasel-wording to imply one thing (95% effective!!! ... at what, they failed to specify.) while actually saying something else. And at some point a few people did slip into outright falsehoods.

That was something I was posting about all along. But I didn't do any special digging to find that particular set of facts, I just paid attention-to the news more closely, and remembered it longer, than most.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 6:21 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Residents of heavily Trump counties were more than three times likelier to die from COVID in October than those in heavily Biden counties — 25 per 100,000 versus 7.8 per 100,000 — Leonhardt reports. "Some conservative writers have tried to claim that the gap may stem from regional differences in weather or age, but those arguments fall apart under scrutiny." In fact, he argues, the "straightforward" explanation is that "the vaccines are remarkably effective at preventing severe COVID, and almost 40 percent of Republican adults remain unvaccinated, compared with about 10 percent of Democratic adults."

"This situation is a tragedy, in which irrational fears about vaccine side effects have overwhelmed rational fears about a deadly virus," Leonhardt writes, but the good news is that the partisan gap very well may have peaked, thanks to promising new antiviral COVID-19 medications from Pfizer and Merck.

https://theweek.com/vaccines/1006887/red-america-is-now-dying-from-cov
id-19-at-a-clearly-higher-rate-than-blue-america


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 7:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Residents of heavily Trump counties were more than three times likelier to die from COVID in October than those in heavily Biden countries



No they weren't.

Quote:

"This situation is a tragedy, in which irrational fears about vaccine side effects have overwhelmed rational fears about a deadly virus," Leonhardt writes, but the good news is that the partisan gap very well may have peaked, thanks to promising new antiviral COVID-19 medications from Pfizer and Merck.



Brought to you by Pfizer.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:11 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Residents of heavily Trump counties were more than three times likelier to die from COVID in October than those in heavily Biden countries

No they weren't.

The full quote is Residents of heavily Trump counties were more than three times likelier to die from COVID in October than those in heavily Biden counties — 25 per 100,000 versus 7.8 per 100,000.

6ix, if you want to argue that 25 per 100,000 versus 7.8 per 100,000 makes no difference, go ahead and be a crazy nutjob.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 10:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Residents of heavily Trump counties were more than three times likelier to die from COVID in October than those in heavily Biden countries

No they weren't.

The full quote is Residents of heavily Trump counties were more than three times likelier to die from COVID in October than those in heavily Biden counties — 25 per 100,000 versus 7.8 per 100,000.

6ix, if you want to argue that 25 per 100,000 versus 7.8 per 100,000 makes no difference, go ahead and be a crazy nutjob.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I know how to math. I'm not a Democrat.

The numbers are bullshit.




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Friday, November 12, 2021 9:37 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Did Covid-19 checks cause a "Labor Shortage"? -- A worker in Florida applied to 60 entry-level jobs in September and got one interview:

Joey Holz recalled first hearing complaints about a labor shortage last year when he called to donate convalescent plasma at a clinic near Fort Myers, Florida. "The guy went on this rant about how he can't find help and he can't keep anybody in his medical facility because they all quit over the stimulus checks," Holz told Insider. "And I'm like, 'Your medical professionals quit over $1,200 checks? That's weird.'" Over the next several months, the 37-year-old watched as a growing chorus of businesses said they couldn't find anyone to hire because of government stimulus money. It was so ubiquitous that he joined a "No one wants to work" Facebook group, where users made memes deriding frustrated employers. He said he found it hard to believe that government money was keeping people out of the labor force, especially when the end of expanded federal unemployment benefits did not seem to trigger a surge in employment. All expanded benefits ended in September, but 26 states — including Florida — ended them early in June and July. "If this extra money that everyone's supposedly living off of stopped in June and it's now September, obviously, that's not what's stopping them," he said. Workers have said companies struggling to hire aren't offering competitive pay and benefits. So Holz, a former food-service worker and charter-boat crewman, decided to run an experiment: applying to 60 entry-level jobs in September and getting only one interview.

Holz acknowledged that his results may not be representative of the larger labor challenges in the country, since his search was local and targeted the most vocal critics of stimulus spending (Covid-19 Checks).

He added that despite the claims of some businesses struggling to hire, his boss had no staffing issues during the pandemic.

"Nobody leaves those positions because he takes care of his people," Holz said, referring to his boss.

More at https://www.businessinsider.com/worker-applied-to-60-jobs-got-one-inte
rview-labor-shortage-2021-10


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 12, 2021 1:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Did Covid-19 checks cause a "Labor Shortage"? -- A worker in Florida applied to 60 entry-level jobs in September and got one interview:



In Florida, huh? You mean the state that is most adamantly fighting against Biden*'s unconstitutional vaccine mandate?

Try that experiment in California and New York, idiot.

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Saturday, November 13, 2021 11:37 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD @PeterHotez tweeted

Some leading causes of death in the State of Texas

5. Homicide: 1,653
4. Drug overdose deaths: 2,989
3. Firearm deaths: 3,583
2. Accidents: 10,763
1. Deaths from COVID19 vaccine refusal since June 1, 2021 even though vaccines widely available: 21,000

6:48 AM · Nov 11, 2021· Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/PeterHotez/status/1458778724149739521

Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD @PeterHotez

My point: "health freedom" antiscience aggression = a leading killing force in the state of Texas, more lethal than drug overdose, accidents, firearm injury, homicide combined. And yet we tolerate this, but we don't have to. More deaths coming but it's not too late to save lives
https://twitter.com/PeterHotez/status/1458779792178925571

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 13, 2021 2:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



We mandate less effective vaccines for illness that are less deadly. I'd be curious what the legal arguments for and against those requirements are.

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Saturday, November 13, 2021 5:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

We mandate less effective vaccines for illness that are less deadly. I'd be curious what the legal arguments for and against those requirements are.



Here's an argument for you.

If somebody tries to force a vaccine on me, only one of us is coming out of that alive.

I'm far from alone.


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Saturday, November 13, 2021 7:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Nobody is going to come to your house to forcibly COVID-19 vaccinate you.

So please put that in the 'predictions' thread, because it will always be true no matter how long we wait, and no matter how paranoid 'people' are.

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Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Nobody is going to come to your house to forcibly COVID-19 vaccinate you.



Says the person who's told me what isn't going to happen time and time again since the beginning of this whole thing when everything else already has.

Go fuck yourself.

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Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Like what? What have I denied will happen that you predicted that came true? Give me even one example. QUOTE ME. Link my post. You know, get some EVIDENCE which is sorely lacking in virtually all your claims.

And, btw, my post about no one coming to your home to forcibly vaccinate you against COVID-19 will still be true, no matter how long we wait. Give it time. You'll see.

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Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You said the mandates weren't going to happen.

You said the shutdowns and the masks were only going to be a few weeks to flatten the curve.

I could go on.

Go find your own fucking quotes. You've got about 1000 posts of your own bullshit to dig through. Cleaning up the shit that comes out of your mouth isn't my job.

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Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



LINKS - or it didn't happen.

"You said the mandates weren't going to happen." Not true. I REPEATEDLY posted that employers have all sorts of rights to require pretty much anything legal as part of a condition of employment.

"You said the shutdowns and the masks were only going to be a few weeks to flatten the curve." Nope. Didn't predict anything like that either.


Are these claims like the claim you REPEATEDLY made when you said I was for full government control of everything? And you never could prove your BS?


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Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Here's your link: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571&p=1

Go fetch, dummy. I'm not sifting through 4,000 posts to find the stupid shit you said.



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Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Diversity Hire Jen Psaki must have recovered just fine from the non-deadly Covid-19. She's back up on that podium lying through her teeth like nothing happened.

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Sunday, November 14, 2021 3:20 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Jack's feeling pretty isolated and immune from this, so he's more than happy to flush everybody who dies from this, no matter how few or how many.
Quote:

It was the same with 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan, but it wasn't just right-wingers who were on board.
After rhetoric like "dead or alive!", "smoke 'em out!", "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists!" - and getting everybody (90% approval) rabidly foaming at the mouth to get bin Laden - after a few months all dubya had to say was "I don't really think about him very much" and it was as if the previous months were totally erased.
The pivot to Iraq was as if it was on a frictionless pin.

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Don't project your COVID panic onto me.
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- what do people who have survived c-19 do next? Can they get it again? I have not seen any definitive answer to that.
Yes, they can. It's been shown in Japan and Korea. What's not known is how common or rare that is. It's also not known if second infections are milder (due to antibodies) or worse (due to cytokine storm) because both have happened. What seems somewhat clear is that those people aren't infectious.

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Of course, junior and juniorette would have to isolate themselves from at-risk family members. Maybe that would propel them out of mom's and dad's basements.
I LIKE that idea! Young people are immortal anyway. Why not let them live like it?



These are my total and entire posts from your link.

"You said the mandates weren't going to happen." Nope, not there.
"You said the shutdowns and the masks were only going to be a few weeks to flatten the curve." Not there, either.

The only thing you've proven with that link is that you're hallucinating!

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Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:12 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


On some topics, SIX, like SECOND, reads what he wants to read, remembers things that never happened, and is very poor at mind reading


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:01 AM

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How Hospitals Became Vaults That Hid Evidence of Covid-19’s Toll

United Memorial Medical Center is a small hospital in a working class part of Houston, with just over 100 beds and 40 doctors. Most of its patients lack health insurance, and a wrecking company is located opposite its main building, which has the look of a brutal mall from the 1970s.

Yet nearly every major U.S. news outlet — the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NBC, CBS, and others — published stories or photos about United Memorial in the first year of the Covid-19 pandemic. One of the pandemic’s iconic pictures shows the hospital’s then-chief of staff, Dr. Joseph Varon, embracing an older patient. No other hospital came close to getting as much coverage in the early phase of the pandemic.

The reason is simple: Unlike virtually every other hospital in the country, United Memorial was opening its doors to journalists trying to document the suffering on the front lines of the pandemic. The photographer who shot the picture of Varon visited the hospital more than 20 times. Because journalists were being turned away elsewhere, they flocked to United Memorial.

“One of the things a hospital has to do, to provide care for an acute illness, is to educate the public,” Varon told The Intercept. “And the only way I can educate the public is through the media. I need the world to understand what is going on.”

An investigation by The Intercept reveals that in the first months of the pandemic, only a small number of the more than 6,000 hospitals in the U.S. let journalists inside — and when access was permitted, it was usually limited to a short time span. The upshot is that most hospitals, citing safety and privacy concerns, turned themselves into vaults that hid the strongest evidence of the virus’s lethality. Doors were shut so firmly that an award-winning documentarian even gave up on his effort to film in the U.S. and instead made his documentary about a country where he could get access to Covid patients: China.

Journalists who have covered wars and epidemics told The Intercept that the obstacles they encountered during the first waves of the pandemic were unparalleled in their careers. Isabeau Doucet, who reported on cholera in Haiti, was completely shut out. “I spent months trying and failing to get access to hospitals or even to get permission to interview doctors who I had spoken to off the record,” Doucet said. “The stonewalling from hospitals was unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.”

Misha Friedman, who worked in public health before becoming an award-winning photojournalist, was shocked at the obstruction in New York City. “I tried to go through doctors and nurses, I tried to go to the top, I even went to someone who was on the board [of a hospital], a billionaire, and he said, ‘I understand, but I don’t want to get involved,’” Friedman explained. Lucas Jackson, a photographer with Reuters, noted recently that he “worked for one of the biggest news companies in the world and couldn’t get access to a single hospital within 100 miles of NYC.”

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20211114114954/https://theintercept.com/20
21/11/13/covid-pandemic-hidden-toll-hospitals
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 14, 2021 9:16 AM

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Quote:

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These are my total and entire posts from your link.



No it's not, dummy.

That link was page 1 of this thread. There are currently 66 pages.

Get to work. You've got a lot of post editing and deleting to do if you're not going to come out of this looking like an asshole.



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