We "Had To Act!"... Based off of Bad Data from This "Expert"... by 6IXSTRINGJACK

Thanks for not disappointing me Wish.

I thought this thread was going to go completely ignored because there were just too many inconvenient facts in it.

You're definitely in the wrong state. You should probably move to Illinois or California. Assuming, yanno, you can afford the real estate and the taxes.

But then again, riots aren't fun. Those are among the places where the rioting is going to start soon.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:29 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Living in So. Fla. has gotten me used to hyped-up panic and frenzy by state officials. We get that every time there's a potential hurricane heading our way. This Covid panic should be winding down just in time for the first hurricane panic due sometime this Summer. Fortunately I recently obtained my Florida Medical Marijuana Card, so as Weezer says, you got your problems, I got my hash pipe.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:46 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Fortunately I recently obtained my Florida Medical Marijuana Card, so as Weezer says, you got your problems, I got my hash pipe.

As the young folk would say: "that's pretty dope."

Seriously - it's an interesting point and indisputable fact that News Media of all sorts and from all sides - especially in the over crowded news landscape - just by their very design and fight for survival, often over hypes stuff to gain eyeballs. We get effed from politicians lying their @ss off on one side, and news media over inflating on the other. It gets so you really don't know who to believe. It makes me remember back when I completely ignored them both.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:47 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"Dr." Neil Ferguson, from the Imperial College in London...

He's the guy that had the Legacy Media telling everybody that 2.2 Million Americans were going to die and scaring our politicians into instituting China-style lock-downs and possibly destroying the economy in the process.

When he was questioned by other researchers to see his calculations he refused and he replied that "the computer code used is 13 years old and thousands of lines of it "undocumented", making it hard for anyone to work with, let alone take it apart to identify any potential errors."

Let's take a look at his greatest hits before this huge swing and miss:

1. Swine Flu (2009) -

"Dr." Neil's Prediction: 0.4% Death Rate. 65,000 dead in the UK.

Reality: 0.026% Death Rate. 457 dead in the UK.

2. Bird Flu (2005) -

"Dr." Neil's Prediction: 200,000,000 Deaths worldwide.

Reality: 384 deaths worldwide between the years 2003 and 2013.

3. Hoof in Mouth Disease (2001) -

His team suggested that all animals in any neighboring farms that had an infection should all be culled even if there was no evidence of infection. This lead to the slaughter and disposal of more than Six Million cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK at an estimated cost of Ten Billion Pounds.

Reality: It was later said by other "experts" such as Michael Thrusfeld, professor of veterinary epidemiology at Edinburgh University, that Ferguson's modelling on foot and mouth was "severely flawed and made a serious error by ignoring the species composition of farms and the fact that the disease spread faster between different species." Further stating his belief that the culling was most likely unnecessary."

4. Mad Cow Disease (2001) -

"Dr." Neil's Prediction: 150,000 deaths in the UK.

Reality: Fewer than 200 deaths from Mad Cow disease to date.

But please, by all means, please just keep listening to supposed "experts" about everything and never question your "superiors".

Make it even easier by covering your eyes and sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending that you don't have Google to fact check me too, just like you've shirked your responsibility to do your own research the last few months.

I didn't provide any links because, fuck you. The data is out there. If you chose to ignore it and not even fact check me because I didn't post links than that is just more evidence that you are the problem.

Damn - why did Trump listen to some dude from England? Big mistake!

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Living in So. Fla. has gotten me used to hyped-up panic and frenzy by state officials. We get that every time there's a potential hurricane heading our way. This Covid panic should be winding down just in time for the first hurricane panic due sometime this Summer. Fortunately I recently obtained my Florida Medical Marijuana Card, so as Weezer says, you got your problems, I got my hash pipe.

Some day, dude. Some day.

I can't wait to smoke weed again one day, but right now I got too much shit to do and I know it ain't going to get done by itself if I start smoking right now.

In the mean time, smoke a pipe for me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:42 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Damn - why did Trump listen to some dude from England? Big mistake!

Trump got 3 numbers for predicted deaths. It was predictable that the less Trump does, the more people die. In theory, Trump should have tried to keep the number of deaths low. In practice, Trump tried to keep his hours on TV high.

North America Deaths from Covid-19 in Report 12 of the Imperial College of London
www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/covid-19/cov
id-19-reports/

92,000 if suppression is at 0.2 deaths per 100,000 population per week

520,000 if suppression is at 1.6 deaths per 100,000 population per week

2,981,000 if this is the Unmitigated Scenario

www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-03-26
-COVID19-Report-12.pdf

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:47 AM

How does everything have to do with Trump in your deranged brain?

Trump did not shut the nation down. That was a state by state decision, with even many Republican governors doing it in at least some capacity.

As was (rightfully) pointed out to him when discussions were starting about reopening everything, Trump doesn't have the authority over states. No president does.

You don't get to have this both ways you want it. And don't pretend that's not exactly what you and your Democrat brainwashing Liberal Media want.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How does everything have to do with Trump in your deranged brain?

Trump did not shut the nation down. That was a state by state decision, with even many Republican governors doing it in at least some capacity.

As was (rightfully) pointed out to him when discussions were starting about reopening everything, Trump doesn't have the authority over states. No president does.

You don't get to have this both ways you want it. And don't pretend that's not exactly what you and your Democrat brainwashing Liberal Media want.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is a national problem, 6ix, not a state problem. But luckily for Trump, some of the state governors did what Trump should have done. If they had not, the Death Toll would eventually be in the millions. If Trump had done what he was supposed to do, the Death Toll would be only a few thousand now. You and Trump don't want to admit that it is Trump's responsibility. Even Trump said, "I'm not responsible."

From the start, Trump has delivered an inconsistent message: The virus is not a threat; the virus is upon us. The economy must not be harmed; the economy must be shut down. There’s no need to wear a mask; everyone should wear a mask — unless, like the president, you prefer not to.

But Trump is certain about one thing — he and his administration are doing a “tremendous” job. “I’d rate it a 10,” the president said.

And if anything goes wrong, it’s someone else’s fault.

States are running out of ventilators to keep hospital patients alive? That’s your problem, Governor; you should have bought more machines three years ago.

Hospitals are running low on masks and gloves? You’re just not bidding hard enough — and maybe the employees are stealing them.

New supplies aren’t reaching hospitals fast enough? “We’re not a shipping clerk,” Trump said.

The federal emergency stockpile was disastrously low? That’s President Obama’s fault — never mind that he left office more than three years ago. Or, more creatively, the Trump campaign charged that it was actually Joe Biden’s fault.

Tests weren’t available when we needed them? That’s on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Obama again.

When Trump’s own inspector general reported this week that hospitals are still desperately short of supplies, the answer from the president was: “Another Fake Dossier!”

Has the president ever acknowledged that he or anyone he appointed ever contributed to any of these problems, even inadvertently? If he has, I missed it — despite diligent and punishing attention to his marathon White House briefings.

For Trump, the buck always stops somewhere else.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:15 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Dozens of nations around the world shut down, including China, Russia, India, S Korea and Singapore.

I doubt they did that because of some guy in London. I'm quite sure they have their own epidemiologists and their own projections. Besides, many of the nations that shut down did so before Neil Ferguson ever opened his pie hole.

You're blaming everything on one guy, just like SECOND blames everything on Trump. Stop strawmanning everything like he does!

Shutdowns are like circuit breakers. When you have a situation that's cascading out of control, you freeze everything. Then you figure out what the situation is, solve the problem(s) and reset. You don't just turn the circuit breaker back on, cross your finger, and hope the house doesn't burn down!

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:27 PM

That's exactly what we're doing now.

Hope your home insurance covers fire.

You're missing the larger point anyways, Sigs.

We're going to destroy the economy because of what some white lab coat wearing globalists suggested the world do.

And they were wrong. And they've always been wrong in the past too.

One of these days you're going to have to admit that you were played.

It's too easy for you to skirt that right now because of the media driven panic. But history won't look back too kindly on your religious beliefs.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's exactly what we're doing now.

Hope your home insurance covers fire.

You're missing the larger point anyways, Sigs.

We're going to destroy the economy because of what some white lab coat wearing globalists suggested the world do.

And they were wrong. And they've always been wrong in the past too.

One of these days you're going to have to admit that you were played.

It's too easy for you to skirt that right now because of the media driven panic. But history won't look back too kindly on your religious beliefs.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

America is in trouble because Trump cannot keep a promise. Trump has walked away from a list of promises he made to show how he was acting boldly to quell the pandemic.

The first were his orders to ban most foreigners from traveling to the United States from China and Europe, decisive actions that he says stopped the contagion from spreading.

Except the bans were partial and ineffective. Tens of thousands of U.S. citizens and residents returned from countries where the coronavirus was already loose. Many were not subjected to serious medical screening or quarantine, measures that could have made a difference.

Trump also promised drive-through testing stations at Walmart and other major retail stores, coordinated by a Google website.

Three weeks later, only seven such testing stations have opened, and most are restricted to first responders and healthcare workers. The website Trump described covers only five Northern California counties.

Then there was the Defense Production Act, a wartime measure Trump dramatically invoked last month, saying it would allow the federal government to seize factories and manage supply chains to provide desperately needed medical goods.

Since then, he’s only used it twice. He brandished it at General Motors, claiming GM was dragging its feet on a commitment to make ventilators. GM, which had volunteered for the job, said it was working as fast as it could.

Then he invoked it against 3M, demanding it stop exporting surgical masks to Canada and other countries. 3M complied but warned that it risked drawing retaliation from overseas that would end up reducing the supply of masks to the U.S. market.

No factories have been seized, no supply chains federalized — although governors have complained that the Federal Emergency Management Agency has hijacked purchases by jumping to the front of the line.

Trump has also been busy rewriting the history of the crisis. After months of saying the coronavirus didn’t pose a serious threat to Americans, he now insists he saw it coming all along. “I’ve felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic,” he said.

He’s even tried to rewrite history overnight. When a reporter asked him about his charge that New York’s Andrew Cuomo and other governors were asking for more equipment than they needed, he replied: “I didn’t say that.”

When the reporter read Trump’s quote from a television interview the night before, the president’s response was: “Why don’t you act a little more positive?”

His March 13 answer to the never-ending question of why so few test kits are available.

In six words, it was the essence of Trump’s management style: “I don’t take responsibility at all.”

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:00 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump did not shut the nation down.

Right again! Trump didn't do shit! lol

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:02 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Banning foreigners or even returnees wouldn't have done anything except delay the inevitable. Russia did that, and it delayed their own epidemic by about a month, but right now they're facing day after day after day of record-breaking new cases ... 30,000 in less than 72 hours. With a virus that's so contagious, and a population that's so naive (immunologically-speaking) to the virus, all it takes is one rogue person to seed the virus. I was told - but can't find the info - that in the case of Russia it was a doctor (a virologist, supposdely) who vacationed in Spain and lied about where she'd been when returning home.

If you're going to restrict where the virus travels, you have to set borders. And those borders have to be at the national, regional, state, city,and even individual level (becoming immune or wearing a mask/washing hands).

SIX is wrong when he makes a prediction that this virus will be "nothing".It's ALREADY SOMETHING ... enough to double, triple, quadruple ... or more .. the normal death rate when spreading unrestrained. It's not so deadly ... somewhere between 0.3-1% of the infected population dies. But it is VERY contagious because (1) it is extremely efficient at docking on to host cells and (2) there is no inbuilt immunity to the virus.

For areas where large numbers of people live and work beehive-like (NYC), it will spread like wildfire. For other areas where people live and work in relative isolation, the spread will be slower. It may take twice as long to get rolling, the curve might be more like 1X instead of 1.35X. But then, if large events are allowed ... sporting events, large parades, giant concerts ... expect to see a noticeable jump in deaths. Also, "assisted living" homes are death-traps.

Eventually, if everyone gets the virus, expect to see somwhere between 1-3 million people die. Absent an effective treatment, it may happen fast (like NYC) or it may happen slow (like S Dakota), but it will happen.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:35 PM

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World News Tonight host David Muir sent Trump into a tailspin with a question that he should’ve seen coming: Why didn’t he do more to prepare for the coronavirus. “What did you do when you became president to restock those cupboards that you say are bare?” he asked.

“Well, I’ll be honest, uh, I have a lot of things going on,” Trump began, in a sound bite tailor-made for an attack ad. “We had a lot of, uh, people, that refused to allow the country to be successful. They wasted a lot of time on ‘Russia, Russia, Russia’ — that turned out to be a total hoax. Then they did ‘Ukraine, Ukraine,’ and that was a total hoax. Then they impeached the president for absolutely no reason.”

Watch: www.vox.com/2020/5/6/21249074/trump-abc-david-muir-interview-coronavir
us

There is no serious, coordinated plan to tackle the crisis.

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:00 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Why didn't Trump prepare?

Maybe because he was reacting to your made up "Russia collusion" hysteria? Or your made-up Assad-gassed-his-own-people hysteria? Or your Trump-is-racist hysteria? Or your Kavanaugh-is-a-rapist hysteria? Or your Russia-hacked-our-elections hysteria? Or your Ukrainegate hysteria?

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Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:18 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Why didn't Trump prepare?

Maybe because he was reacting to your made up "Russia collusion" hysteria? Or your made-up Assad-gassed-his-own-people hysteria? Or your Trump-is-racist hysteria? Or your Kavanaugh-is-a-rapist hysteria? Or your Russia-hacked-our-elections hysteria? Or your Ukrainegate hysteria?

Do you mean it is NOT Trump's fault that he can't control his emotions and, therefore, he completes very little work for all the years he has been President? That would mean Trump is immature. When does he finally grow up and become an adult?

President Donald Trump's work ethic has been called into question since he took office. Photos of the president, including of him playing golf and watching television, have bolstered critical arguments. In contrast, photos of Barack Obama while he was president show him working out, preparing to give speeches, and taking meticulous notes. Below are some of the photos that have prompted questions about and comparisons of the work ethic of the two presidents:
www.businessinsider.com/trump-work-ethic-obama-2018-4

On Monday morning, President Donald Trump tweeted this: "No president ever worked harder than me (cleaning up the mess I inherited)!" That tweet came shortly after "Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough had called attention to an Axios scoop in which schedules leaked from the White House for the past four days suggested that Trump had spent 50% of his day on "executive time" -- shorthand for the hours that include watching cable TV and tweeting. Aside from suggesting Trump is not actually as rich as he says he is, there is no easier way to trigger the President's anger than to say he simply doesn't work all that hard. Trump has long maintained that a) no one works harder than he does and b) his commitment to said hard work is the reason for his success. LOL.
www.cnn.com/2019/02/11/politics/donald-trump-hard-work/index.html

Trump is lazy and distracted. He has no detailed plan on how to handle Covid-19 because that would be work, something he is not familiar with.

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 6:09 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Why didn't Trump prepare?

Maybe because he was reacting to your made up "Russia collusion" hysteria? Or your made-up Assad-gassed-his-own-people hysteria? Or your Trump-is-racist hysteria? Or your Kavanaugh-is-a-rapist hysteria? Or your Russia-hacked-our-elections hysteria? Or your Ukrainegate hysteria?

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It Sure Looks Like the Trump Administration Used Some Bad, High School–Level Math to Justify “Reopening” the Economy

The administration decided to justify its response to a plague based on the work of a man known above all for making hilariously overoptimistic predictions. The man is best known for co-writing Dow 36,000, that totemic relic of tech bubble–era stock market boosterism. Kevin Hassett has spent his career making Pollyanna-ish claims justifying conservative policy priorities like tax cuts.

The whole thing has been fairly dramatic given that econ Twitter typically has a polite faculty lounge vibe, and speaks to a broader sense in the field that the Council of Economic Advisors under Trump has resorted to partisan hackery in a way it hadn’t under previous administrations, both Democratic and Republican. But the more important point is that the Trump administration appears to have found the dumbest possible math it could use to justify letting thousands of people needlessly die.

More about the extremely stupid reason why the White House thought it could just ride out the pandemic at https://slate.com/business/2020/05/trump-models-coronavirus-dumb.html

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 7:58 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump did not shut the nation down.

Right again! Trump didn't do shit! lol

That wasn't his job, and Constitutionally it was not in his purview.

Don't be a hypocrite.

You weren't arguing for him when the Legacy Media said this:

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/14/834040912/fact-check-trump-doesnt-have-
the-authority-to-order-states-to-reopen

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-trump-cant-order-states-to-reopen-cons
titutional-scholars-say/

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/rex-huppke/ct-coronavirus-trump
-states-governors-reopen-10th-amendment-huppke-20200413-riborwa66bdctdjhfooq7b3vq4-story.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-cant-unilaterally-reopen-state
-economies-experts-say-2020-04-14

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/15/21219580/10th-amendment-trump-reopen-eco
nomy-total-authority

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/tenth-amendment-donald-tru
mp-no-total-authority.html

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/cuomo-on-trumps-authority-com
ment-we-dont-have-a-king-we-have-a-president/2372969/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/14/trump-coronavirus-reop
en-us-cuomo

You weren't wrong then. But I hate to break it to you... You aren't right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:03 AM

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Originally posted by second:
It Sure Looks Like the Trump Administration Used Some Bad, High School–Level Math to Justify “Reopening” the Economy

Trump didn't reopen the economy. He doesn't have the authority to.

That's in the hands of the state officials.

And even then, any good Governor and staff is further ceding that authority to local leadership.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:27 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It Sure Looks Like the Trump Administration Used Some Bad, High School–Level Math to Justify “Reopening” the Economy

Trump didn't reopen the economy. He doesn't have the authority to.

That's in the hands of the state officials.

And even then, any good Governor and staff is further ceding that authority to local leadership.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Actually, keeping the economy open is in the hands of people like me. Not in the hands of the Texas Governor and certainly not in fatty dummy Trump's paws. I didn't close down my business, but I had some serious problems: Do you know how hard it is to get a grandma living in Ardmore, Oklahoma to temporarily move to Houston and look after her grandchildren so that the daughter can come into work for me? (Daycare was closed.) I had to bribe grandma by paying her mortgage in Oklahoma and renting her a place in Houston.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It Sure Looks Like the Trump Administration Used Some Bad, High School–Level Math to Justify “Reopening” the Economy

Trump didn't reopen the economy. He doesn't have the authority to.

That's in the hands of the state officials.

And even then, any good Governor and staff is further ceding that authority to local leadership.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Actually, keeping the economy open is in the hands of people like me. Not in the hands of the Texas Governor and certainly not in fatty dummy Trump's paws. I didn't close down my business, but I had some serious problems: Do you know how hard it is to get a grandma living in Ardmore, Oklahoma to temporarily move to Houston and look after her grandchildren so that the daughter can come into work for me? (Daycare was closed.) I had to bribe grandma by paying her mortgage in Oklahoma and renting her a place in Houston.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Okay then. I win again.

Don't say stupid shit.

Here's a tip. When you're about to say a sentence with the word "Trump" in it, you're probably having a TDS Tourette's moment and you should count to 10 and meditate before typing or opening your mouth.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 9:26 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Okay then. I win again.

Don't say stupid shit.

Here's a tip. When you're about to say a sentence with the word "Trump" in it, you're probably having a TDS Tourette's moment and you should count to 10 and meditate before typing or opening your mouth.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your argument is that the President cannot shutdown the country. A time-wasting, passive President pretends the Constitution forbids him. An active President gives the order, then he uses his brain to outwit his naysayers. See Lincoln or FDR. Trump is all mouth, no brain.
www.salon.com/2015/01/02/fdr_outsmarts_them_all_henry_ford_joseph_kenn
edy_charles_lindbergh_and_the_american_entrance_into_world_war_ii/

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Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:15 AM