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I would not care if Hunter Biden embezzled zillions and had relations with a dead donkey on film.

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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CC: He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain,

SIGNY: He did? When was that?


CAP'NGSTRING: Nice try. You said he didn’t use the office for personal gain.

NOPE! NOT WHAT I POSTED! Read again!
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I gave you hundreds of ways your statement was full of shit. How can you be so wrong so often?
You gave me "hundreds" of rebuttals to a statement I NEVER MADE.

How can YOU be so wrong so often, indeed??

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Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:41 PM

REAVERFAN


Giuliani's 'October Surprise' already shows signs of backfiring
This week's revelations were supposed to make Joe Biden look bad. Instead, they're proving to be a far bigger problem for his GOP accusers.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/giuliani-s-october-surprise-a
lready-shows-signs-backfiring-n1243707


It was a couple of years ago when Steve Bannon was quoted saying, "The Democrats don't matter. The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with s--t."

With this in mind, you probably heard this week from your weird relatives who consume conservative media all day, with emails about a New York Post story that was literally unbelievable. The details are a convoluted mess -- they involve Hunter Biden, a Ukrainian gas company, an alleged laptop, some alleged emails, and an unnamed shop owner in Delaware -- which the conservative tabloid learned of by way of Bannon and Rudy Giuliani.

The problem -- one of them, anyway -- is that the underlying premise of the allegations were discredited quite a while ago, which is why most major news organizations had the good sense to steer clear of the New York Post's report.

Making matters worse is the fact that this effort to "flood the zone with s--t" appears to be backfiring. NBC News reported overnight:

Federal investigators are examining whether the emails allegedly describing activities by Joe Biden and his son Hunter and found on a laptop at a Delaware repair shop are linked to a foreign intelligence operation, two people familiar with the matter told NBC News.

What was apparently intended to be Giuliani's "October Surprise" is looking like the product of a Russian intelligence operation directed at the U.S. presidential election. Indeed, the New York Times had a good report on this a couple of days ago:

Some security experts expressed skepticism about the provenance and authenticity of the emails. The Times reported last January that Burisma had been hacked by the same Russian GRU unit that was one of two groups that hacked the Democratic National Committee in 2016. Last month, United States intelligence analysts contacted several people with knowledge of the Burisma hack for further information after they had picked up chatter that stolen Burisma emails would be leaked in the form of an "October surprise."

If this sounds quite a bit like the scheme that unfolded four years ago around this time, it's not your imagination.
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Giuliani's "October Surprise" is an epic self-own. Instead of presenting a legitimate concern, he instead demonstrated once again that Trump and his cronies are perfectly happy to actively conspire with hostile foreign intelligence services to flood us with deceit and disinformation.

Kinda like Siggy, huh?


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Sunday, October 18, 2020 3:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You fell for the first round of RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! collusion, completely blew past the Mueller Report saying there wasn't any, and now you're being a sucker of the NYTimes ... again.

There's as much evidence here as there was for Iraq's WMDs. Did you fall for that one, too?

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Monday, October 19, 2020 4:31 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

There's as much evidence here as there was for Iraq's WMDs. Did you fall for that one, too?



You realize that was like..15 YEARS AGO, RIGHT??

You realize no one cares, right??

Maybe move on??


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Monday, October 19, 2020 4:33 AM

WISHIMAY


https://frontier.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-surge-in-republica
n-areas-124951839.html


It would just be ironic as hell if coronavirus mass infection of Chump supporters themselves is what seals his doom

May they all choke!


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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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You realize that was like..15 YEARS AGO, RIGHT??

Maybe move on??

Because they'd never ever EVER lie to you again in a bazillion years?



So, instead of ENTERTAINING THE POSSIBILITY that if there was such a MASSIVE LIE orchestrated for SO LONG ACROSS GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND MEDIA just to DUPE YOU ...

... and if they did it once they MIGHT POSSIBLY DO IT AGAIN ...

.... just fuggedaboudit?



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Monday, October 19, 2020 8:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


These people can't see more than 4 years in the future.

Why would you expect them to remember or care about anything that happened more than 4 years ago?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 8:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
https://frontier.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-surge-in-republica
n-areas-124951839.html


It would just be ironic as hell if coronavirus mass infection of Chump supporters themselves is what seals his doom

May they all choke!


https://refusefascism.org/




Stay classy, Nilbog.


If anybody ever dissects the RWED in a history class of how the world went crazy in 2020, you're going to see a lot of death wishing coming from the Leftists on this board, and none of it coming from anybody else, despite endless claims to the contrary.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 10:08 AM

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Giuliani gave Hunter Biden story to New York Post because 'nobody else would take it' at face value
https://theweek.com/speedreads/944548/giuliani-gave-hunter-biden-story
-new-york-post-because-nobody-else-take-face-value


"It's not something that meets my journalistic standards," one Post reporter told New York Magazine. Another Post reporter called it "very flimsy," adding that the article "just makes you cringe and roll your eyes, and it's hard to stomach, but at the same time we kind of know that you're signing up for stuff like that. ... It's disappointing. It sucks to, like, work for, like, a propaganda outlet."



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Monday, October 19, 2020 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Stay classy, Nilbog.


If anybody ever dissects the RWED in a history class of how the world went crazy in 2020, you're going to see a lot of death wishing coming from the Leftists on this board, and none of it coming from anybody else, despite endless claims to the contrary.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yeah, reichwingers never do THAT!





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Monday, October 19, 2020 10:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm speaking specifically about the RWED.

You and your alternate personality along with Nilbog regularly wish death on people you don't agree with.


Fun.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:44 AM

SIGNYM

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Hunter Biden's Laptop "Is Not Some Russian Disinformation Campaign"; DNI Ratcliffe Slams Schiff

It appears the "Russia, Russia, Russia" cries from Adam Schiff and his dutiful media peons is dead (we can only hope) as Director of National Intel John Ratcliffe just confirmed to Foxx Business' Maria Bartiromo that:

"Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

As Politico's Quint Forgey details (@QuintForgey), DNI Ratcliffe is asked directly whether accusations leveled against the Bidens in recent days are part of a Russian disinformation effort.

He says no:

"Let me be clear. The intelligence community doesn't believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that."

"We have shared no intelligence with Chairman Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden's laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign. It's simply not true."

"And this is exactly what I said would I stop when I became the director of national intelligence, and that's people using the intelligence community to leverage some political narrative."

"And in this case, apparently Chairman Schiff wants anything against his preferred political candidate to be deemed as not real and as using the intelligence community or attempting to use the intelligence community to say there's nothing to see here."

"Don't drag the intelligence community into this. Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign. And I think it's clear that the American people know that."




CLEAR ENUF? NOT RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!

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Of course, this 'fact' from 'intelligence' is unlikely to stop the "emails are Russian" narrative growing ever louder as MSM attempt to distract from the actual content of the emails.


So,will you be distracted by a bunch of red confetti thrown into the air?

Quote:

As Caitlin Johnstone noted:

So “the emails are Russian” narrative serves the interests of political convenience, partisan media ratings, and the national security state’s pre-planned agenda to continue escalating against Russia as part of its slow motion third world war against nations which refuse to bow to US dictates, and you’ve got essentially no critical mainstream news coverage putting the brakes on any of it. This means this narrative is going to become mainstream orthodoxy and treated as an established fact, despite the fact that there is no actual, tangible evidence for it.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and the mainstream press would crucify any journalist who so much as tweeted about it. Very little journalism is going into vetting and challenging him, and a great deal of the energy that would normally be doing so is going into ensuring that he slides right into the White House.

If the mainstream news really existed to tell you the truth about what’s going on, everyone would know about every questionable decision that Joe Biden has ever made, Russiagate would never have happened, we’d all be acutely aware of the fact that powerful forces are pushing us into increasingly aggressive confrontations with two nuclear-armed nations, and Trump would be grilled about Yemen in every press conference.

But the mainstream news does not exist to tell you the truth about the world. The mainstream news exists to advance the interests of its wealthy owners and the status quo upon which they have built their kingdoms. That’s why it’s so very, very important that we find ways to break away from it and share information with each other that isn’t tainted by corrupt and powerful interests.


Donald Trump Jr. asked a good question - one that will be ignore by the mainstream media's reporters...

"So if there’s no evidence how can the head of the house intelligence committee go on TV and try to sell this as though it’s the gospel yet again?

Is there no accountability? How can someone like that be in charge of a committee when he simply lying & weaponizing his position?"

. No, Don Jr, there's no accountability. Rachel Madcow can breathlessly hyperventilate about the most outlandish conspiracies based on NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER ("Russia communicating with server in Trump Tower!!! Remember THAT one?) and yet we can have Joe Biden bragging on video about shaking down Ukraine and .... *crickets*




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As we detailed previously, as the Hunter Biden laptop scandal threatens to throw the 2020 election into chaos with what appears to be solid, undisputed evidence of high-level corruption by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, the same crowd which peddled the Trump-Russia hoax is now suggesting that Russia is behind it all.

To wit, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, who swore on National television that he had evidence Trump was colluding with Russia - now says that President Trump is handing the Kremlin a "propaganda coup from Vladimir Putin."

Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) has gone full tin-foil, suggesting that Giuliani was a 'key target' of 'Kremlin constructed anti-Biden propaganda.'

Headlines in major publications are perhaps even more conspiratorial:

And of course, propagandists are doing their thing...

Yet, if one looks at the actual facts of the case - in particular, that Hunter Biden appears to have dropped his own laptops off at a computer repair shop, signed a service ticket, and the shop owner approached the FBI first and Rudy Giuliani last after Biden failed to pick them up, the left's latest Russia conspiracy theory is quickly debunked.


MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-bidens-laptop-not-some-russ
ian-disinformation-campaign-dni-ratcliffe-slams-schiff


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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:48 AM

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This is how we know you're a Russian troll.

How's the weather in St. Petersburg, comrade?



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Monday, October 19, 2020 12:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You're a figment of Second's imagination. You don't even have a body of your own, let alone a country to call home.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 12:08 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're a figment of Second's imagination. You don't even have a body of your own, let alone a country to call home.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Libel is what REAVERBOT resorts to when he has, literally, nothing to post.


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Monday, October 19, 2020 1:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I would not care if Hunter Biden embezzled zillions and had relations with a dead donkey on film.

The mantra of the low-information voter: I don't care about facts.



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Monday, October 19, 2020 1:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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This is how we know you're a Russian troll.

How's the weather in St. Petersburg, comrade?





RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 2:34 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I would not care if Hunter Biden embezzled zillions and had relations with a dead donkey on film.

The mantra of the low-information voter: I don't care about facts.



The facts have been presented. It's proven bullshit, Russian troll.

God, you're such an idiot. Don't even know when you're defeated.

It's cute how you try to retain a shred of dignity when the whole forum is laughing at your stupid troll ass.





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Monday, October 19, 2020 2:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Lies are not facts.

You should probably look up both of those words in a dictionary.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 2:55 PM

REAVERFAN


The facts just keep pouring in.

FBI Examining Hunter’s Laptop As Foreign Op, Contradicting Trump’s Intel Czar
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-examining-hunter-bidens-laptop-as-fo
reign-op-contradicting-john-ratcliffe-trumps-intel-czar


One senior intelligence official told The Daily Beast that the community is still working to determine if the Hunter Biden materials—which were leaked to the press by Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani—stem from a specific Russian intelligence operation. Giuliani has for years worked with Ukrainian parliamentarians with links to Russia, including one “Russian agent,” to propagate disinformation about the Obama administration and the Biden family, including Hunter Biden. While Giuliani and his confidantes have previously spoken publicly about Hunter Biden’s drug use, intelligence officials are investigating whether this last-minute push to release material through Trump-friendly media outlets stems from some particular directive from Moscow or whether it is an extension of Giuliani’s years-long effort to use Ukrainian intermediaries to dig up dirt on the Bidens.

Whatever the case may be, intelligence officials say the recent packaging of the Hunter Biden material looks similar to something the Russians would do to sow chaos in U.S. domestic politics. But, officials say, Moscow wouldn’t necessarily need to muddy the waters by being directly involved in the latest dissemination of materials because Giuliani has already taken the lead.

“The Intelligence Community has stated publicly that Russia is once again seeking to benefit Donald Trump’s election campaign by denigrating Joe Biden,” said Patrick Boland, spokesman for Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), who chairs the House Intelligence Committee. “The new wave of attacks we are seeing … are consistent with the false and unsubstantiated narratives that the President, his personal lawyer, and a sanctioned Russian agent have been pushing for well over a year. They appear intended to distract from recent reports that the White House, as early as December 2019, was made aware that Rudy Giuliani was being leveraged by Russian proxies as part of Kremlin efforts to interfere in our election.”



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Monday, October 19, 2020 3:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Hunter Biden's Laptop "Is Not Some Russian Disinformation Campaign"; DNI Ratcliffe Slams Schiff

It appears the "Russia, Russia, Russia" cries from Adam Schiff and his dutiful media peons is dead (we can only hope) as Director of National Intel John Ratcliffe just confirmed to Foxx Business' Maria Bartiromo that:

"Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

As Politico's Quint Forgey details (@QuintForgey), DNI Ratcliffe is asked directly whether accusations leveled against the Bidens in recent days are part of a Russian disinformation effort.

He says no:

"Let me be clear. The intelligence community doesn't believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that."

"We have shared no intelligence with Chairman Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden's laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign. It's simply not true."

"And this is exactly what I said would I stop when I became the director of national intelligence, and that's people using the intelligence community to leverage some political narrative."

"And in this case, apparently Chairman Schiff wants anything against his preferred political candidate to be deemed as not real and as using the intelligence community or attempting to use the intelligence community to say there's nothing to see here."

"Don't drag the intelligence community into this. Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign. And I think it's clear that the American people know that."


CLEAR ENUF? NOT RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!
Quote:

Of course, this 'fact' from 'intelligence' is unlikely to stop the "emails are Russian" narrative growing ever louder as MSM attempt to distract from the actual content of the emails.
So,will you be distracted by a bunch of red confetti thrown into the air?
Quote:

As Caitlin Johnstone noted:
So “the emails are Russian” narrative serves the interests of political convenience, partisan media ratings, and the national security state’s pre-planned agenda to continue escalating against Russia as part of its slow motion third world war against nations which refuse to bow to US dictates, and you’ve got essentially no critical mainstream news coverage putting the brakes on any of it. This means this narrative is going to become mainstream orthodoxy and treated as an established fact, despite the fact that there is no actual, tangible evidence for it.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and the mainstream press would crucify any journalist who so much as tweeted about it. Very little journalism is going into vetting and challenging him, and a great deal of the energy that would normally be doing so is going into ensuring that he slides right into the White House.

If the mainstream news really existed to tell you the truth about what’s going on, everyone would know about every questionable decision that Joe Biden has ever made, Russiagate would never have happened, we’d all be acutely aware of the fact that powerful forces are pushing us into increasingly aggressive confrontations with two nuclear-armed nations, and Trump would be grilled about Yemen in every press conference.

But the mainstream news does not exist to tell you the truth about the world. The mainstream news exists to advance the interests of its wealthy owners and the status quo upon which they have built their kingdoms. That’s why it’s so very, very important that we find ways to break away from it and share information with each other that isn’t tainted by corrupt and powerful interests.


Donald Trump Jr. asked a good question - one that will be ignore by the mainstream media's reporters...

"So if there’s no evidence how can the head of the house intelligence committee go on TV and try to sell this as though it’s the gospel yet again?

Is there no accountability? How can someone like that be in charge of a committee when he simply lying & weaponizing his position?"

. No, Don Jr, there's no accountability. Rachel Madcow can breathlessly hyperventilate about the most outlandish conspiracies based on NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER ("Russia communicating with server in Trump Tower!!! Remember THAT one?) and yet we can have Joe Biden bragging on video about shaking down Ukraine and .... *crickets*
Quote:

As we detailed previously, as the Hunter Biden laptop scandal threatens to throw the 2020 election into chaos with what appears to be solid, undisputed evidence of high-level corruption by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, the same crowd which peddled the Trump-Russia hoax is now suggesting that Russia is behind it all.

To wit, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, who swore on National television that he had evidence Trump was colluding with Russia - now says that President Trump is handing the Kremlin a "propaganda coup from Vladimir Putin."

Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) has gone full tin-foil, suggesting that Giuliani was a 'key target' of 'Kremlin constructed anti-Biden propaganda.'

Headlines in major publications are perhaps even more conspiratorial:

And of course, propagandists are doing their thing...

Yet, if one looks at the actual facts of the case - in particular, that Hunter Biden appears to have dropped his own laptops off at a computer repair shop, signed a service ticket, and the shop owner approached the FBI first and Rudy Giuliani last after Biden failed to pick them up, the left's latest Russia conspiracy theory is quickly debunked.


MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-bidens-laptop-not-some-russ
ian-disinformation-campaign-dni-ratcliffe-slams-schiff


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I wonder how they are spinning the demands from Hunter and his lawyer that the shop owner return Hunter's laptop to them, because it really wasn't his in the first p[ace.

And the Sex video? Somebody really spend the time to fabricate that? That would seem easy to authenticate, display the video details and have Hunter prove that is not him in the video.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 3:32 PM

REAVERFAN


Rudy Giuliani said he released his Hunter Biden story to the New York Post because he knew other outlets would scrutinize it too much
https://www.businessinsider.com/giulliani-released-biden-story-nypost-
over-scrutinization-concerns-nyt-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com


But, since Rupert owns that rag, anything goes. Real papers would fact check it. Can't have that!



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Monday, October 19, 2020 4:47 PM

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QAnon Is Running the Pizzagate Playbook With Hunter Biden
But this time, the conspiracy theory is being shared and spread by mainstream Republican figures, not just fringe groups.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9z4a/qanon-is-running-the-pizzagate-
playbook-with-hunter-biden?utm_source=reddit.com






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Monday, October 19, 2020 4:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 5:20 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.



God, you're a shitty troll.



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Monday, October 19, 2020 5:20 PM

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Monday, October 19, 2020 5:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Hunter has brain issues. He can't keep track of important things. OOPS. I forgot to give up coke. OOPS. I forgot I fathered a child. OOPS. I forgot to bleach bit my laptop before I sent it in. DOUBLE OOPS. I forgot to pick it up.

He's like that problem child in some families. You never know what mess they're going to get themselves into next.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol.

Don't you hate it when you forget to give up coke?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

OOPS. I forgot to bleach bit my laptop before I sent it in. DOUBLE OOPS. I forgot to pick it up.

OOPS: FBI examining "Hunter Biden’s" laptop as a Russian disinformation effort targeting the 2020 election, contradicting Trump’s intel czar

The Daily Beast reports:

The FBI is investigating the purloined laptop materials from Joe Biden’s son as part of a possible foreign disinformation operation, a congressional source told The Daily Beast—an investigation at odds with a statement from President Trump’s director of national intelligence.

John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence, told Fox Business on Monday that the dissemination of materials from Hunter Biden’s alleged laptop was not part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

But that assessment gets out in front of the FBI, which took custody of the laptop and an external hard drive as early as in December, according to the New York Post. The bureau, according to the congressional source, is looking into the provenance of the material. And among the questions they’re seeking to answer is whether the laptop dump is part of what the intelligence community’s counterintelligence chief has already described as a Russian disinformation effort targeting the 2020 election.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-examining-hunter-bidens-laptop-as-fo
reign-op-contradicting-john-ratcliffe-trumps-intel-czar


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 19, 2020 7:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Monday, October 19, 2020 7:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hunter Biden's laptop: A Russian trick, a hack-job — or just what it looks like?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hunter-bidens-laptop-a-russian
-trick-a-hack-job-or-just-what-it-looks-like/ar-BB1ab1bE



Ratcliffe: No proof foreign actors tied to 'Biden' laptop.
Officials: FBI is probing

https://news.yahoo.com/ratcliffe-no-proof-foreign-actors-174959564.htm
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Monday, October 19, 2020 9:25 PM

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Trump has told associates he plans on pushing out FBI Director Christopher Wray because the "Hunter Biden" alleged laptop is not being used by the FBI as a tool to win Trump's reelection. The FBI is convinced that Russians had their hands on the laptop.

www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-examining-hunter-bidens-laptop-as-foreign-op
-contradicting-john-ratcliffe-trumps-intel-czar


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Monday, October 19, 2020 10:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Second and the other freaks just posting a bunch of bullshit interceptions from lefty shill globalist media that hates America.

Fuck you, Second. It's not going to work.

Trump wins reelection easily.



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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:28 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Trump wins reelection easily.




I'm completely sure he sits around chanting that to himself, and just like nutty Kiki, will sit around chanting it to himself 15 years from now





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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hon, I have never made a prediction either way. And you posting that I have - well, QUOTES AND LINKS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 11:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second and the other freaks just posting a bunch of bullshit interceptions from lefty shill globalist media that hates America.

Fuck you, Second. It's not going to work.

Trump wins reelection easily.

Trump win or lose, I will win. There is a 38% chance Trump wins according to https://odds.watch/trump-2020

I feel it's a higher likelihood, closer to 50/50 because half the people I know in Texas are batshit crazy and voting for Trump. I get tremendous free entertainment from their antics and also a dump truck load of money from the same people as Trump does. If Trump loses, he will have to find a new way to make a living, but I'll keep on taking those fools' cash. Trump has MAGA for me.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No. You have no money. Neither of your split personalities do.

Nobody believes you.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:52 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. I have no money. Neither of my split personalities do.


Do Nothing, Be Nothing, Have Nothing, Think Nothing :)




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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I am so much better off than your redneck inbred family is, Nilbog.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 6:05 AM

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As President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani attempts to alter the course of the election through the leaking of fake materials allegedly from the computer of a "Hunter Biden", fellow Republicans — including some in the president’s orbit — are holding their breath.

Rudy Giuliani says there is Only ‘50/50’ Chance I Worked With a ‘Russian Spy’ to Fake Dirt on Biden.
www.thedailybeast.com/even-parts-of-trumpworld-are-wondering-wtf-rudy-
giuliani-is-doing


Unlike the fake dirt on Biden, Trump's dirty tax returns won't be in prosecutors' hands until after the election and Trump won't have to explain how paying no taxes for a decade is not criminal. This is real dirt on Trump.
www.cnn.com/2020/10/19/opinions/trump-five-court-losses-tax-returns-ho
nig/index.html


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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 6:09 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno SECONDRATE, unlike most everyone else on thos board, you've actually killed people. More than even the dirtiest cop, I would imagine. More than most hardended criminals.

You lie repeatedly, and you hate an awful lot of people.

Why the focus on taxes? It is the least of sins.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECONDRATE, unlike most everyone else on thos board, you've actually killed people. More than even the dirtiest cop, I would imagine. More than most hardended criminals.

You lie repeatedly, and you hate an awful lot of people.

Why the focus on taxes? It is the least of sins.

Because a felon can't be President?

Because Trump owes the US Treasury billions of dollars?

Because Trump fights to hide decades of tax crimes?

Trump promised many times to be open about his taxes, but then he went to Court many-many-many times as President to keep his taxes a top secret.

2018: Trump engaged in 'outright fraud' to avoid taxes
https://web.archive.org/web/20181002234942/https://www.businessinsider
.com/new-york-times-trump-tax-fraud-father-fred-inheritance-2018-10


2020: The most shocking revelations about Trump's tax returns
https://web.archive.org/web/20201001024408/https://www.businessinsider
.com/trump-tax-returns-new-york-times-summary-shocking-revelations-2020-9


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


A) The IRS knows, and has always known what is in Trump's tax returns.

B) There is no law stating that a presidential candidate needs to show his tax returns.

Get over it, idiot.

Then make sure that some time in the far future when your guy wins again, you make him change that law.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
A) The IRS knows, and has always known what is in Trump's tax returns.

B) There is no law stating that a presidential candidate needs to show his tax returns.

Get over it, idiot.

Then make sure that some time in the far future when your guy wins again, you make him change that law.

The law cannot be changed without the cooperation of the Republicans in the Senate. That is certainly not the way a legislative body would be organized if you wished to live in a smoothly functioning country, just as you don't let the defendant's family on the jury for a criminal trial. I have never known a Republican who wasn't cheating on taxes. It's why Congressional Republicans complain about taxes being too high. Too high is how they justify their own criminal cheating.

Nixon's Tax Cheating
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df8007
5b9dd/f8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

The IRS had all the same information as Congress subpoenaed, but the IRS completely missed 8 simple and obvious ways Nixon cheated. Paying what he owed for only 4 years of cheating while in the White House almost wiped out Nixon's entire fortune. Good thing Nixon had a pension for all his "service" to the nation or he would have been left impoverished during retirement. Same could happen to Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:54 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Libel is what REAVERBOT resorts to when he has, literally, nothing to post.




I destroyed you. Again. I always do.

Live with it. Live with the burning humiliation of being proven wrong.

I bet the other Russian trolls near your cubicle all laugh at you, too.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECONDRATE, unlike most everyone else on thos board, you've actually killed people. More than even the dirtiest cop, I would imagine. More than most hardended criminals.
You lie repeatedly, and you hate an awful lot of people.
Why the focus on taxes? It is the least of sins.

SECOND: Because a felon can't be President?

Then why not focus on Presidents like Obama, who really DID destroy the Constitution with his spying on everyone, executing Americans without a trial (yanno, his famous "kill list"), and protecting fraudulent bankers? This focus on taxes is like YOUR one claim to righteousness, because you sure can't claim to be a decent person any other way!

You know, every time you post about taxes, I can't help think about the Pharisee in the bible. Or that parable about seeing the mote in your brother's eye and not the log in your own. (I guess that log must really interfere with your vision!)

Besides, I agree with SIX: The IRS has his tax returns and I'll bet there's nothing unusual in there. ALL of the billionaires pay less taxes than I do! YOU probably pay less taxes than I do! It's the way the tax rules are written. If you really want to gripe MEANINGFULLY about taxes instead of just virtue-signalling all day long, then why not advocate putting corporations and people on an equal footing? (But, that would mean you'd have to pay about 1000X more in taxes than you already do!)

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Besides, I agree with SIX: The IRS has his tax returns and I'll bet there's nothing unusual in there. ALL of the billionaires pay less taxes than I do! YOU probably pay less taxes than I do! It's the way the tax rules are written. If you really want to gripe MEANINGFULLY about taxes instead of just virtue-signalling all day long, then why not advocate putting corporations and people on an equal footing? (But, that would mean you'd have to pay about 1000X more in taxes than you already do!)



That's the whole point of this Trump Tax thing, and Second either knows it, or he's a fucking moron.

If his taxes were released, out of the entire mountain of paperwork that they entail compared to the 10 or so pages a guy like me files to state and federal every year, the media is going to take about 5 of those highly selectively edited pages and "dumb it down" in the way that most enrages the idiots who don't know how things work.

Trump didn't "cheat". He paid a ridiculous amount to a team of tax attorneys to pay the absolute minimum possible, which I'm sure entailed a lot of depreciation of assets and all sorts of other things that make it look like he doesn't actually make much money, when that's obviously not the truth. Except for putting his John Hancock on the forms where needed, he probably didn't look at a single page of his taxes in the last 40 years.

The IRS knows what's in there. He'd have been in prison years ago, along with all of his legal team being disbarred and joining him if they cheated the actual tax code as written.

Second just wants it released to the public so the people at Vox and Mother Jones along with Rachel Maddow can lie about them.


They could literally take any rich person's taxes and make the same points about them, but that's the exact opposite of what they want to do. Their corporate Masters would frown heavily upon letting everybody know just how fucked the tax code is for rich people. It has to be specifically about Trump or it's not going to see the light of day.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.

And why have Joe Biden and Hunter Biden (and lawyers) not stated clearly that the emails are not real, the laptop is not Hunter's?

When asked about it, they just say they can't talk about it, and they divert by siccing the Fake News on the computer store guy, or on Rudy, or on anybody else they can think of.

That answer is almost as obvious as not being able to answer if Joe will stack SCOTUS.

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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Besides, I agree with SIX: The IRS has his tax returns and I'll bet there's nothing unusual in there. ALL of the billionaires pay less taxes than I do! YOU probably pay less taxes than I do! It's the way the tax rules are written.



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Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, why has the FBI been hiding this evidence from Congress, particularly during the time Obiden was lying to Congress? If they had determined it was fake, they could have just said so, instead of hiding it from a genuine Investigative body.

And why have Joe Biden and Hunter Biden (and lawyers) not stated clearly that the emails are not real, the laptop is not Hunter's?

When asked about it, they just say they can't talk about it, and they divert by siccing the Fake News on the computer store guy, or on Rudy, or on anybody else they can think of.

That answer is almost as obvious as not being able to answer if Joe will stack SCOTUS.



He won't say who he'd put in the court either if Barrett wasn't going to be confirmed.

He's completely unable to tell the truth about anything because he's catering to two entirely different bases.

Democrats are fucked.

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