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Election Fraud Debunking Megathread

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:21 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ The sheer fucking nerve of these people on the Left to whine that people think 2020 was rigged when they cried like babies about the exact same goddamned thing for four years themselves AND they got a long, drawn out investigation on taxpayer dime that came up with nothing.

Hypocrisy, personified.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You're a Russian troll. STFU, loser.

if you want truth and facts, read what I post in this thread. I have the luxury of not needing to lie, and no need to misrepresent facts.



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Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:23 PM

REAVERFAN


Wisconsin officials: Trump observers obstructing recount
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-wiscon
sin-elections-dcb7da95578fc7289122c6d372575a9b


Is anyone surprised? I'm not surprised.

Failed people failing some more.



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Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT.
Because apparently NOBODY - neither 'winners' not 'losers' - cared to address its findings.
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David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
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It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.

HAVE A THOROUGH, ACADEMIC, NON-PARTISAN STATISTICAL DISSECTION OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.

Why not? Who WOULD be against the facts? And who WOULD be against acting on them?




And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:54 PM

REAVERFAN


Stop spamming your irrelevant bullshit, Russian troll.

Trump lost, bigly, and no amount of smoke and mirrors can negate that very real fact.



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Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:56 PM

THG


Lies, fake news...

T



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Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:59 PM

REAVERFAN


Building Voter Fraud Conspiracy Theories with Steven Crowder





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Saturday, November 21, 2020 8:02 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



HAVE A THOROUGH, ACADEMIC, NON-PARTISAN STATISTICAL DISSECTION OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.

Why not? Who WOULD be against the facts? And who WOULD be against acting on them?


Quote:

Of those, 20 said they would consider accepting Biden as their president, but only in light of proof that the election was conducted fairly.
That would be exceptionally helpful. You don't have to be a republican or to have voted for Trump to notice all the statistical anomalies with the Biden vote.
Quote:

Most repeated debunked conspiracy theories espoused by Trump, Republican officials and conservative media claiming that millions of votes were dishonestly switched to Biden in key states by biased poll workers and hacked voting machines.
Best bet is not that they were switched, but manufactured.
Quote:

Many voters interviewed by Reuters said they formed their opinions by watching emergent right-wing media outlets such as Newsmax and One American News Network that have amplified Trump’s fraud claims.
MY opinions were formed by looking at the numbers, available at many websites. I used this one: https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page
Quote:


The widespread rejection of the election result among Republicans reflects a new and dangerous dynamic in American politics: the normalization of false and increasingly extreme conspiracy theories among tens of millions of mainstream voters, according to government scholars, analysts and some lawmakers on both sides of the political divide. “This is dystopian,” Light said. “America could fracture.”

The people of ALL parties should insist on an independent, non-partisan, academic, statistical autopsy of the election, AND FOLLOW UP ON AND CORRECT THE CAUSES OF ANY ABNORMALITIES, UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE MITOFSKY REPORT.
Because apparently NOBODY - neither 'winners' not 'losers' - cared to address its findings.
Quote:

David Gergen - an adviser to four previous U.S. presidents, two Democrats and two Republicans - said Trump is trying to “kneecap” the Biden administration before it takes power, noting this is the first time a sitting American president has tried to overthrow an election result.
But this is not the first time there was a partisan effort to kneecap a president and remove him by any means necessary.
DEMOCRATS, YOU WENT THERE FIRST.
Quote:

It may not be the last time. Many Republicans see attacks on election integrity as a winning issue for future campaigns - including the next presidential race, according to one Republican operative close to the Trump campaign.
Then defang that 'push' to question 'election integrity' AND REPAIR THE VOTE.

HAVE A THOROUGH, ACADEMIC, NON-PARTISAN STATISTICAL DISSECTION OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.

Why not? Who WOULD be against the facts? And who WOULD be against acting on them?




And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 8:09 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Dominion Voting Systems ‘Lawyers Up,’ Abruptly Backs Out of PA State House Fact-Finding Hearing
Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee.
At a press conference Friday morning, State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”
https://www.gopusa.com/dominion-voting-systems-lawyers-up-abruptly-bac
ks-out-of-pa-state-house-fact-finding-hearing
/

Facts verified

https://www.abc27.com/news/us-world/politics/election/state-government
-committee-to-hold-virtual-hearing-on-voting-machines
/

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/pa-lawmakers-criticizing-d
ominion-voting-systems-after-it-backs-out-of-hearing/article_6020da90-2ba1-11eb-8420-534f51eeb494.html



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 6:54 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Dominion Voting Systems ‘Lawyers Up,’ Abruptly Backs Out of PA State House Fact-Finding Hearing
Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee.
At a press conference Friday morning, State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”
https://www.gopusa.com/dominion-voting-systems-lawyers-up-abruptly-bac
ks-out-of-pa-state-house-fact-finding-hearing
/

Facts verified

https://www.abc27.com/news/us-world/politics/election/state-government
-committee-to-hold-virtual-hearing-on-voting-machines
/

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/pa-lawmakers-criticizing-d
ominion-voting-systems-after-it-backs-out-of-hearing/article_6020da90-2ba1-11eb-8420-534f51eeb494.html



More made up bullshit that you and your fellow Russian trolls will parade around. Not because there's any facts to it, but because you're all about lying and deception, never truth.

Where do you live, Russian troll?



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:17 AM

REAVERFAN


'No legal or factual basis' to question election, says Michigan Secretary of State
Michigan attorney general looks at criminal charges for state officials who would overturn election results
Trump has personally reached out to several Republican officials regarding the results of the election
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/michigan
-attorney-general-election-criminal-charges-trump-b1759769.html?utm_source=reddit.com


Michigan was in the spotlight earlier this week when two Republican board members on a canvassing committee in Wayne County refused to certify the results of the 2020 election. After public backlash, the officials buckled and agreed to certify the results.

Mr Trump called the officials on Tuesday night, after which they sought to rescind their vote to certify the election.

Wayne County is the home to the city of Detroit. Refusing to certify the results would result in primarily Democrat and disproportionately Black voters having their legally cast ballots thrown out.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:24 AM

REAVERFAN


Matthew Brann, Republican judge and member of the Federalist Society, LAUGHS Giuliani and Trump out of court; Pennsylvania Case Dismissed with Prejudice



Get absolutely fucked, Giuliani, you fucking blithering ghoul.





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Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:27 AM

REAVERFAN


Firehose of falsehood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

The firehose of falsehood, or firehosing, is a propaganda technique in which a large number of messages are broadcast rapidly, repetitively, and continuously over multiple channels (such as news and social media) without regard for truth or consistency. Since 2014, when it was successfully used by Russia during its annexation of Crimea, this model has been adopted by other governments and political movements around the world.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:59 AM

REAVERFAN


Detroit voters sue Donald Trump over unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-22/detroit-voters-sue-donald-trump
-unsubstantiated-fraud-claims/12908186


What goes around comes around.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:25 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani made a rare appearance as an advocate in a courtroom this week in a baseless and hopeless effort to invalidate Joe Biden's victory.

Addressing the former New York City mayor, who was parroting Trump's lie about massive voter fraud, US District Court Judge Matthew Brann posed a devastating question at the hearing on Tuesday.

"You're alleging that the two individual plaintiffs were denied the right to vote. But at bottom, you're asking this court to invalidate more than 6.8 million votes, thereby disenfranchising every single voter in the Commonwealth. Could you tell me how this result could possibly be justified?"

On Saturday, the judge effectively answered his own question by dismissing the lawsuit and saying, "this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations...and unsupported by evidence."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/22/opinions/judges-devastating-question-tr
ump-opinion-galant/index.html


On the Republican side, they would go to war for Trump. They believe Trump’s stream of election-fraud allegations and say they’re preparing for the possibility of a “civil war” with the American political left.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-fraud-insight-id
USKBN2801D4


I like that mention of “civil war” by the Texas Republicans. The two worst Presidents in history were just before and after Lincoln and the civil war, James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson. If Trump hits what he is aiming for, another civil war, he moves into the position of worst President in history. MAGA!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the
_United_States


Trump may have significant power to start a civil war after he is out of White House:
How Trump Hopes to Use Party Machinery to Retain Control of the G.O.P.
Ronna McDaniel, a close ally of President Trump, wants to remain head of the Republican National Committee, worrying party members who believe the president will try to use the group to keep control of the G.O.P.
This power play is alarming a number of R.N.C. members, party strategists and former committee aides, who are highly uneasy about ceding control of the committee to a potential candidate in 2024, a step that they fear would shatter the party’s longstanding commitment to neutrality in nominating contests.
www.nytimes.com/2020/11/22/us/trump-gop-control.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:25 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump tries to drum out GOP election officials who won’t play his games
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger's family has received threats and he expects a primary challenge in 2022.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/trump-gop-elections-challenge
-438938


President Donald Trump has driven senators into retirement and tweeted wayward Republicans into primary defeat during four years leading the GOP. Now, as a lame duck, he’s launched a new campaign against GOP election officials who won’t bend to his will.

Trump’s drive to discredit the results of an election he lost has put him at odds with the Republican elected officials and administrators who oversaw the vote in key states — and called it what it was: a free and fair election. Being at odds with Trump doesn’t go over well in today’s Republican Party, and Trump has turned their political bases against them, even unleashing threats from his most rabid supporters.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:31 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) Congratulates Biden After Pennsylvania Judge Dismisses Trump Lawsuit

In a long, strongly worded statement, Toomey not only congratulated Biden for his victory but also called on Trump to stop challenging the election results and get on with the transition already. “President Trump has exhausted all plausible legal options to challenge the result of the presidential race in Pennsylvania,” Toomey writes.

https://www.toomey.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/release-toomey-s
tatement-on-pa-federal-court-decision-congratulates-president-elect-biden


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:36 AM

REAVERFAN






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Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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No they didn't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ The sheer fucking nerve of these people on the Left to whine that people think 2020 was rigged when they cried like babies about the exact same goddamned thing for four years themselves AND they got a long, drawn out investigation on taxpayer dime that came up with nothing.

Hypocrisy, personified.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You're a Russian troll. STFU, loser.

if you want truth and facts, read what I post in this thread. I have the luxury of not needing to lie, and no need to misrepresent facts.






LOL

I'm a Russian troll now too.



OK Comrade.



I'm looking very much forward to watch GWB 2.0 to make all of your wildest dreams come true.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:43 PM

REAVERFAN


It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.




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Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:43 PM

REAVERFAN


Sidney Powell says she has "BIBLICAL" Evidence in INSANE Newsmax interview attacking Brian Kemp







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Sunday, November 22, 2020 2:23 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump: “Stay Tuned” For “Big” Voter Fraud Information In Georgia
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/11/21/trump-stay-tuned-b
ig-voter-fraud-information-georgia
/

It's coming! Any day now! Just like Trump's taxes, Obama's birth certificate and JFK Jr.!



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:01 PM

REAVERFAN


Dominion spokesman: 'It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other'
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/527086-dominion-spokesman-it-is-
not-physically-possible-for-our-machines-to-switch


A spokesperson for Dominion Voting Systems addressed conspiracy theories about the company on Fox News Sunday, saying it was “not physically possible” for its machines to change voter selections.

“This is a nonpartisan American company. It is not physically possible for our machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other,” Michael Steel said on Fox News’ “America’s News HQ” Sunday.

“Let's be very clear, our election system is run by local elected officials and nonpartisan poll watchers. We simply provide a tool to count the ballots and to print and count ballots,” he added. “There is no way such a massive fraud could have taken place and there are no connections between our company and Venezuela, Germany, Barcelona, Kathmandu, whatever the latest conspiracy theory is.”

Attorneys working for the Trump campaign laid baseless claims of voter fraud during a press conference last week that included allegations that Dominion had ties to Venezuela.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:10 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You get no pleasure in life, other than being a little bitch.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:10 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You get no pleasure in life, other than being a little bitch.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:10 PM

REAVERFAN






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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:18 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump, The Saboteur
First a Tantrum, Then Taking Every Opportunity to Trash Our Government
https://www.dcreport.org/2020/11/22/trump-the-saboteur/

Any thoughts that Donald Trump is just trying to polish his perceived presidential legacy with his late-game administration moves is giving way to a darker idea. He is planting boulders in the path of Joe Biden and the incoming group, “salting the earth,” as one headline declared this week.

It’s a ridiculous process that sneers at the MAGA America Trump professes to love. Apart from ignoring the overwhelming coronavirus issues, Trump’s strategy is to continue hobbling the federal government from addressing what it needs to face.

Separate from petulance over losing the election and not starting a transition, Team Trump continues to be actively sabotaging U.S. policies that – at least according to campaign promises – are bound to change with an incoming opposition political party.

To show what he sees as toughness, Trump considered attacks on Iran; ordered a sudden but telegraphed withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia without condition; launched further curbs on immigration; and ordered, again, prescription drug price cuts he ordered, then suspended, a month ago, without a plan.

Now, his folks are doubling down elsewhere, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo going to the West Bank in effect to endorse Israeli takeover of Palestinian property; Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin cutting off Federal Reserve from helping markets, businesses and municipalities weather the pandemic; and there is a plan afoot for a late order to halt birthright immigration – the extension of citizenship upon American birth.

These are all moves in the category of anger-making contention. Even if Joe Biden did not want them overturned or challenged in court, his group is not in a position to carry them out through a federal government that has been hollowed of employees and will find itself at the apex of the pandemic as a full-time problem.



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:33 PM

REAVERFAN


It's a cult: Trump's lawyer Sidney Powell is now accusing GA Gov Brian Kemp (R) of taking payoffs from Venezuelan communists to defeat Trump.
https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1330533783251148807?s=20

Boy, when she goes to court and shows all that solid, irrefutable evidence, and Trump stays president, I'm gonna cry like a little snowflake soy boy!



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Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
It's amusing watching you melt down while pretending that somehow you really won.







Meltdown?

I haven't even approached the first in a series of steps I'd need to climb to even begin to display your behavior these last four years.

You're gross, buddy.

It's going to be hilarious watching Biden wreck your dreams.

I win either way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

You get no pleasure in life, other than being a little bitch.







Says the guy literally complaining about everything even though his guy won.

I love life, bruh. Try to even begin pretending that you can say the same and maybe you won't be so awful.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 6:55 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Says the guy literally complaining about everything even though his guy won.

I love life, bruh. Try to even begin pretending that you can say the same and maybe you won't be so awful.

What is awful is that Trump is ornery. Trump deliberately says Biden LOST. After he repeatedly said Biden LOST, that is now the official position of a majority of Trump voters. But that is exactly the way Trump has ruled: up is down, left is right, plus is minus, or even more confusing, Trump said he paid all his taxes, Russia helped Hillary, climate change and Covid-19 are hoaxes. Trump's misleading is why this debunking mega-thread exists.
https://angrybearblog.com/2020/11/libertarians-and-trump-one-last-chan
ce-for-redemption.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Biden did lose. Has nothing to do with what Trump says.

The Media and the Establishment run the country now and they just implanted GWB 2.0.

Elections don't matter anymore. Oh well.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:57 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden did lose. Has nothing to do with what Trump says.

The Media and the Establishment run the country now and they just implanted GWB 2.0.

Elections don't matter anymore. Oh well.

The people who were Confederates told themselves that Lincoln lost. For years the Confederates had their very own President Jefferson Davis. It is not unexpected for some Trump voters to become the next John Wilkes Booth and attempt an assassination of Joe Biden, or at the very least, cheat on their Federal tax returns. The Trump voters will still have Trump around to run a shadow national government (except without nukes, submarines, and ICBMs): Trump threatens to wreak havoc on GOP from beyond the White House. His attacks on Republican governors since his loss offer a sample of what's in store.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/22/trump-wreak-havoc-gop-white-h
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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:27 PM

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Yup.

We'll just work outside the system since it's rigged.



Have fun with your GWB replacement.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.

We'll just work outside the system since it's rigged.



Have fun with your GWB replacement.

The Trump voters could establish their own system. I'll give an example using Covid-19 relief. The Democrats have their $3 trillion dollar Heroes Act. The Republicans have Mitch McConnell's $0.5 trillion dollar bill, which not even Mitch can get other GOP Senators to vote for, so its price tag is really zero dollars. All the people who voted for Biden get to share the $3 trillion and all the people who voted for Trump get to share zero dollars. Non-voters get nothing. In this way, the two separate systems, one for Trump voters and another for Biden voters, can live harmoniously in one country, each voter getting what they voted for.

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Monday, November 23, 2020 12:05 AM

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Trump campaign cuts Sidney Powell from president’s legal team
The abrupt shake-up comes as Powell makes far-fetched and unsupported claims of voter fraud in the 2020 elections.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/22/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-
legal-439357


Oh, dear! What now?



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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:04 AM

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Carl Bernstein @carlbernstein tweeted:

I'm not violating any pledge of journalistic confidentiality in reporting this: 21 Republican Senators – in conversations w/ colleagues, staff members, lobbyists, W. House aides – have repeatedly expressed extreme contempt for Trump & his fitness to be POTUS.

The 21 GOP Senators who have privately expressed their disdain for Trump are: Portman, Alexander, Sasse, Blunt, Collins, Murkowski, Cornyn, Thune, Romney, Braun, Young, Tim Scott, Rick Scott, Rubio, Grassley, Burr, Toomey, McSally, Moran, Roberts, Shelby.

With few exceptions, their craven public silence has helped enable Trump’s most grievous conduct — including undermining and discrediting the US electoral system.

9:10 PM · Nov 22, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1330710304519405569



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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:11 AM

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Who'd have thought that GWB would serve a third term and get nearly 80 million democrats to vote for him?

2020 is sure a year for the books.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:29 AM

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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
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Reminder:
@RudyGiuliani
took down the New York mob. Hell take down these dirtbags as well...
Kelly
@Kelbre_Griff
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Nov 19
Reminder: he almost took his pants down too.
https://twitter.com/Kelbre_Griff/status/1329490109696258048?ref_src=tw
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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who'd have thought that GWB would serve a third term and get nearly 80 million democrats to vote for him?

2020 is sure a year for the books.

Why do you think Biden is George Bush? As governor of Texas, Bush was a lazy, stupid former drunk who destroyed his Vietnam War records kept with the Texas National Guard and most definitely a Republican who was completely okay with executing innocent Texas prisoners and with torturing/killing prisoners in Iraq and Guantanamo. Biden is the opposite, and to confuse the two men means you are totally confused about politics.

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Monday, November 23, 2020 8:40 AM

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Fox News Show Erupts After Trump's Pal Geraldo Rivera Basically Admits That The Election Is Over
https://www.comicsands.com/fox-geraldo-rivera-false-hope-2648994919.ht
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Rivera pointed out how wild Fox's conspiracy theories were, saying:

"The Clinton Foundation? George Soros?"
"Hugo Chavez? An international conspiracy?"
"Why not Elvis?"



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Monday, November 23, 2020 10:38 AM

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BREAKING: CRAZY Conspiracist Sidney Powell DROPPED From Trump Legal Team





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Monday, November 23, 2020 11:44 AM

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Trump's election lies are an attempted coup. Biden and other Democrats should say so.
Regardless of how you define the word "coup", now is not the time for academic debates.

Trump is not trying to simply undermine President-elect Joe Biden's presidency, nor is he primarily trying to position himself for a 2024 presidential run, as many have suggested. No, Trump's No. 1 goal is to overturn the results of the 2020 election. It's time for Biden and other Democratic leaders to describe his actions in the most forceful and universally understandable language possible. And that means, in this case, calling them part of an attempted coup to illegally overthrow the Biden presidency.

New York University history professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of the new book "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present," explained that Trump's actions are more aptly described as an "auto-coup" — in which a leader remains in power through undemocratic means.

Regardless of how you define the word, now is not the time for academic debates. Trump's wildly effective communications strategy proves that crude and simple is better. Biden's response, in contrast, has been far too careful and far too polite. On Thursday, Biden called Trump's efforts to undermine the election results "totally irresponsible." Weak language from Biden.

As Ben-Ghiat put it, rather starkly, "Democrats have to ask themselves how they want history to view them: as those who fought ferociously against Trump's efforts to undermine our election or as those who unintentionally appeased him with their silence, allowing him to decimate our democracy."

These are the stakes. Biden and the Democrats cannot hope that simply ignoring Trump will persuade him to give up. His brazen attempts to defraud the American public now include pressuring local GOP elected officials to join his plot. Even assuming Trump does vacate the White House on Jan. 20, these types of attacks could have long-term consequences, especially without clear, forceful pushback. Countless authoritarian regimes began as democracies, as Ben-Ghiat has noted.

Instead of taking the supposed high road, Biden and other Democratic officials must flood the media — including Fox News — with warnings about Trump's lies. Attempts to remain in power against the will of the people are not business as usual in America — they are more akin to something seen in banana republics.

A small number of Republican elected officials have begun to publicly call on Trump to concede. Biden is using these defections to double down on unity and bipartisanship. But without a more aggressive media campaign, Biden will be forced to govern a country more divided than ever before. A Reuters poll released Wednesday found that only 73 percent of Americans said Biden won the election, while 52 percent of Republicans say Trump "rightfully won." This is incredibly disturbing.

Team Biden must repeatedly highlight Trump's lack of credible evidence of voter fraud. Common sense tells us that if the assertions by Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani of a "national conspiracy" to rig the election were true, the Trump effort would have more to show for it. It has been nearly three weeks since Election Day. Instead, Trump's lawyers lashed out at reporters when pressed for details or data.

More at https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-election-lies-are-attemp
ted-coup-biden-other-democrats-ncna1248573


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Monday, November 23, 2020 12:32 PM

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Transition warning: Trump's mental illness is a growing danger
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/23/trump-mentally-unfit
-president-column/6382407002
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As the world celebrated a Biden-Harris victory, mental health professionals braced for the two-and-a-half months that we deemed would be the most dangerous period of this presidency. Indeed, in just the days since announcement of election results, Donald Trump has refused to concede, has obstructed a peaceful transfer of power, has fired and replaced top officials responsible for the nation’s security, and has contemplated catastrophic war. All this is on top of ignoring a surging pandemic that is now infecting more than 150,000 per day and killing more than 1,500 Americans per day.

Since Donald Trump’s election, mental health professionals have come forth in historically unprecedented ways to warn against entrusting the U.S. presidency to someone exhibiting dangerous mental impairments. We held an ethics conference with the most highly respected psychiatrists in the country to ensure a solid ethical basis for speaking up. We then published "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President," which became an unprecedented bestseller of its kind, and donated all proceeds from the book to remove conflicts of interest.



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Monday, November 23, 2020 12:59 PM

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Trump axed campaign lawyer Sidney Powell because 'she was too conspiratorial even for him,' report says
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lost-patience-with-conspiracy-th
eorist-attorney-powell-nyt-2020-11?utm_source=reddit.com


Sources close to the president told The New York Times' Maggie Haberman that Powell's claims had become too much for Trump and that for days the president had been "agitating" about Powell and Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor leading the Trump campaign's challenge in the courts.

A particular focus of his ire was said to be last Thursday's bizarre press conference, where Powell aired the wild conspiracy theory — with no evidence — that Venezuelan socialists and the Jewish financier George Soros had orchestrated a vast plot using rigged voting machines to steal the election from Trump.



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Quote:

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Transition warning: Trump's mental illness is a growing danger
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/23/trump-mentally-unfit
-president-column/6382407002
/

In summary, we believe that the preponderance of evidence overwhelmingly supports the conclusion that this President is incapable of making sound, rational, reality-based decisions free of impulsivity, recklessness, paranoid and other demonstrably false beliefs, with most notably an absorption in self-interest that precludes the consideration of national interest. These characteristics not only affect the overall unfitness of this President; they also indicate a profound danger to national and international security in the nuclear age. Whereas we would still like to see the results of a proper, in-person evaluation, as stated above, a personal interview does not necessarily yield the most useful information in a functional assessment. In fact, we believe that we already have enough information to conclude that the President lacks the mental capacity to discharge the duties of his office, and that his incapacity in these respects represents a profound risk to public health and safety.

More at https://1dc.470.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Mueller_Com
bined_Final_August_2019-1.pdf


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Monday, November 23, 2020 4:03 PM

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Detroit had more vote errors in 2016 when Trump won Michigan by a narrow margin. He didn’t object then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/detroit-vote-errors-trump/2020
/11/23/ae789912-2d3b-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com






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Monday, November 23, 2020 4:40 PM

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It’s Time to Consider Sanctions for Trump’s Legal Team
Courts and state bars have a responsibility to act against an egregious attempt to undermine American democracy.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/trump-legal-team-rudy-giul
iani-state-bar-sanctions.html


All this raises the question of the lawyers’ ethical conduct in bringing these cases in the first place. A New Jersey congressman has called for the disbarment of nearly two dozen Trump lawyers. As scholars who have devoted the better part of our professional lives to the study of legal ethics, we believe, based on the records publicly available to date, that the disciplinary case against certain of Trump’s lawyers is strong.

Of course, there is nothing unethical about launching a lawsuit thinking that it’s a long shot likely to fail. Lawyers cross fundamental professional boundaries, however, when they file cases that make unsubstantiated allegations of election fraud and heedlessly assist their client’s calculated effort to erode trust in our democratic system. For lawyers who have sworn to uphold the rule of law, that is an astonishing breach.

The ethical requirements that govern lawyers are set forth in the American Bar Association’s Model Rules of Professional Conduct. Though the particulars vary somewhat by state, these rules govern every lawyer practicing in the United States today and have requirements that govern the election conduct at issue. For example, Rule 3.1 states that a “lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous.” Although filings are not frivolous “merely because the facts have not first been fully substantiated,” lawyers are duty-bound prior to filing to “inform themselves about the facts of their clients’ cases and the applicable law.” Moreover, lawyers have “a duty not to abuse legal procedure,” which, given the stakes in these cases, imposes a special obligation to ensure the basic accuracy and credibility of their challenges. And, under another governing provision—Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11 and state-court counterparts—lawyers also can’t file suit “for an improper purpose” such as causing “unnecessary delay.”
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Disbar all of them. They don’t deserve to be in a court room after peddling this bullshit.



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Donald Trump’s bid to steal the election hinges on a shameless homophobe who once called him a lying, idiotic bully
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/11/23/donald-trump-jenna-ellis-legal-a
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“Evangelical advocate” Jenna Ellis, a senior legal adviser to the Trump 2020 campaign, has taken a central role in the president’s baseless allegations of widespread voter fraud after his loss to Joe Biden.

When Trump was first elected she labelled him a narcissistic “idiot,” a “bully” and someone who “really cannot be trusted to be consistent or accurate in anything”, but she changed her tune midway through his presidency and is now one of his closest allies.



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