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The Trump cult

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:39 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, one of the things that comes up over and over again by TDSers here on this board is the idea that Trump supporters are "cultists". That they have elevated him to the level of high priest and believe everything that he says.

As far as I can tell, that belongs in the trash, along with calling anyone who disagress with you a "Russian troll/racist/fascist", and it shows a SERIOUS misunderstanding of Trump supporters, and an insufferable hubris.

Just reading the posts here, listening to pro-Trump podcasters, and talking with Trump voters IRL, they tend to be pretty well-grounded and center-of-the-road people. Very few of them (except maybe "Dave" of X22) believe that Trump is a flawless mastermind of strategy, and almost all of them (with, again, a few exceptions) have some kind of disagreement with either his policies or the execution of his policies, or both.

Me, for example. I voted for Trump for THREE REASONS. Only THREE. Not because I supported everything that he proposed, or thought that he was some kind of saint, or because I'm a "Russian troll" or because I thought he would return us to some never-existent heyday. From the very start, I said he was a loose cannon, and that I strongly disagreed with his policies towards Iran and Israel. I knew - and posted- that he could NOT revive our economy because he has no direct control of investment in production facilities. I believe he has a pretty severe case of adult ADHD and that he runs at the mouth (or the tweet) way too much.

I've found MOST Trump supporters to be balanced about their views of him, recognizing both the positives and the negatives. I've repeatedly tried to engage in discussions of Trumps bad points and good points.

NOT RUSSIA!RUSSIA! which was a complete hoax (which one day you TDSers will eventually admit) and an obvious attempt unseat/delegitimize a democratically-elected President, conducted by our spook agencies and compliant media and corporate social media. But ACTUAL good point and bad points. But TDSers pretty much refused to even engage in rational, fact-based discussion.

In fact, the people who are the most cult-like are the TDSers themselves. Who else would long for a worldwide genocide of 7+ billion people who MIGHT be thinking "wrong thoughts" (as WISHY has doubled down on) or who constantly post such hate-filled posts as "Punch a MAGA" and "I drink your tears" (as REAVERBOT constantly posts) or who constantly lies (like SECONDRATE and CC)?

Will there ever be a time when we can engage in FACT-BASED discussion, recognizing that the "other side" has some legitimate grievances with "the way things are", and problems that need solving? Will the DNC EVER recognize that their pro-transnational elite policies are the source of their election difficulties? Or will they continue their hate-filled tirades past the point of tedium?


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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:16 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


I still can't figure out if you are paid by the post/thread or word...? You've posted variations on this sooooo many times over the years, so maybe all 3?

Yanno what I wish? I wish that just once, you'd tell us what you think America's interests are.

"Will the DNC EVER recognize that their pro-transnational elite policies are the source of their election difficulties?" Sure, "pro-transnational elite policies" are exactly why people voted for Trump.

Jo: "Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Jo: "Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63999&p=1

This is what JO claims -
Quote:

Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections



And right from the wiki page, those hundreds of Trump-Russian contacts apparently include Robert Mueller!!! Barack Obama!!! Bernie Sanders!!! John McCain!!!, Senate Judiciary Democrats!!! ... Gordon Sondland, Christopher Steele, Jill Stein ...

MY GOD!! Who ISN'T a go-between for Trump and Putin???!!!

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I see CC is back to posting more go se.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Anyway, Signy, I figured since CA is such a blue state, I could vote for whomever I wanted.

So I made a point of voting for NOT the democrat, because there were people on the ballot I supported more than either of the 2 main candidates. And why should I be tribal?

WTH. If you can't support someone you agree with in a perfectly meaningless vote that absolutely nobody cares about, or even notices, when CAN you support them?

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I still can't figure out if you are paid by the post/thread or word...? You've posted variations on this sooooo many times over the years, so maybe all 3?

Yanno what I wish? I wish that just once, you'd tell us what you think America's interests are.

That is a lie. I have posted thread after thread what I think America's interests are:

National sovereignty (keeping authority athome)
Self sufficient production
Neutral balance of trade
No "intervention" abroad unless it meets or DIRECT interests
Environmental remediation.

Hello????
Any of this ring a bell???

I've posted a lot more, if you recall and can stop lying for just a post or two. all of it as "conversation starters" which you never engaged in.



Quote:

"Will the DNC EVER recognize that their pro-transnational elite policies are the source of their election difficulties?" Sure, "pro-transnational elite policies" are exactly why people voted for Trump.

Jo: "Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections

Over the years since I've been using Wikipedia, I've watched it drift under the control of the so-called "liberal" elite.

Did you know that one of the original founders of Wikipedia left because he couldn't maintain the platform's political neutrality?

Wikipedia is ok for extremely technical info (what are the different properties of polyurethane molecules?) but once it comes to history or politics it's pretty dodgy.



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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:38 PM

REAVERFAN


Yeah, I remember driving my big truck with Obama flags all over it, running people over and shooting them with pepper spray and paintballs.

Wasn't cultish, though.



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Yeah, it's perfectly normal to be slavishly devoted to a liar and to threaten to murder people because he lost.



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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"Yeah, it's perfectly normal to be slavishly devoted to a liar ... "

You mean like ... OBAMA?

Who promised to close GITMO? Hold Wall Street to account? Be the most transparent administration ever? And who just released a lying-shitstorm book?

"... and to threaten to murder people because he lost."

Like SECOND/you? Who seem to constantly revert to violence and the threat of shooting/ assassination at any peckish discomfit?





RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:25 PM

REAVERFAN






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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:25 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"Yeah, it's perfectly normal to be slavishly devoted to a liar ... "

You mean like ... OBAMA?

Who promised to close GITMO? Hold Wall Street to account? Be the most transparent administration ever? And who just released a lying-shitstorm book?

"... and to threaten to murder people because he lost."

Like SECOND/you? Who seem to constantly revert to violence and the threat of shooting/ assassination at any peckish discomfit?





RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

Damn, you're stupid af.



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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





When Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:31 PM

REAVERFAN


cult
/k?lt/
noun
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
"the cult of St. Olaf"

You're acting like a cultist right now.



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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:47 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Jo: "Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63999&p=1

This is what JO claims -
Quote:

Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections



And right from the wiki page, those hundreds of Trump-Russian contacts apparently include Robert Mueller!!! Barack Obama!!! Bernie Sanders!!! John McCain!!!, Senate Judiciary Democrats!!! ... Gordon Sondland, Christopher Steele, Jill Stein ...

MY GOD!! Who ISN'T a go-between for Trump and Putin???!!!



Fucksake you're worthless.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:49 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"Yeah, it's perfectly normal to be slavishly devoted to a liar ... "

You mean like ... OBAMA?

Who promised to close GITMO? Hold Wall Street to account? Be the most transparent administration ever? And who just released a lying-shitstorm book?

"... and to threaten to murder people because he lost."

Like SECOND/you? Who seem to constantly revert to violence and the threat of shooting/ assassination at any peckish discomfit?

RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

Damn, you're stupid af.




They switch between acting stupid, lying or filling the forum with cut and paste text from zerohedge or similar - what's the point?

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:52 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I still can't figure out if you are paid by the post/thread or word...? You've posted variations on this sooooo many times over the years, so maybe all 3?

Yanno what I wish? I wish that just once, you'd tell us what you think America's interests are.

That is a lie. I have posted thread after thread what I think America's interests are:

National sovereignty (keeping authority athome)
Self sufficient production
Neutral balance of trade
No "intervention" abroad unless it meets or DIRECT interests
Environmental remediation.

Hello????
Any of this ring a bell???




It's a joke df. You've been circling round to that topic every 3 months for the last decade. Especially when you want to deflect from Trump & Russia. 90% proof that you are paid by the post and are probably running out of topics.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:55 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Did you know that one of the original founders of Wikipedia left because he couldn't maintain the platform's political neutrality?

Wikipedia is ok for extremely technical info (what are the different properties of polyurethane molecules?) but once it comes to history or politics it's pretty dodgy.




Weak ass deflection as usual. Can you get someone else to post here? You're constantly saying Trump had nothing to do with Russia but now you can't find anything wrong with a list of connections. Hey...? You're not lying are you?

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:57 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"Yeah, it's perfectly normal to be slavishly devoted to a liar ... "

You mean like ... OBAMA?

Who promised to close GITMO? Hold Wall Street to account? Be the most transparent administration ever? And who just released a lying-shitstorm book?

"... and to threaten to murder people because he lost."

Like SECOND/you? Who seem to constantly revert to violence and the threat of shooting/ assassination at any peckish discomfit?



Do you have any Evidence for those claims?

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:09 PM

REAVERFAN


Nope. Nothing cultish here...





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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I still can't figure out if you are paid by the post/thread or word...? You've posted variations on this sooooo many times over the years, so maybe all 3?

Yanno what I wish? I wish that just once, you'd tell us what you think America's interests are.

That is a lie. I have posted thread after thread what I think America's interests are:

National sovereignty (keeping authority athome)
Self sufficient production
Neutral balance of trade
No "intervention" abroad unless it meets or DIRECT interests
Environmental remediation.

Hello????
Any of this ring a bell???




It's a joke df. You've been circling round to that topic every 3 months for the last decade. Especially when you want to deflect from Trump & Russia. 90% proof that you are paid by the post and are probably running out of topics.

If I have been circling around this topic for the last DECADE, as you just posted, WTF does that have to do with TRUMP and RUSSIA? Trump has only been in office four years, last time I checked.

And why the fuck did you post that I've never provided a list of what I thought were America's interests?

Maybe I post on the topic because I have a genuine interest in America's success.

And maybe you're constantly deflecting from the topic ... oh, and lying about it... because you don't.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:


"Yeah, it's perfectly normal to be slavishly devoted to a liar ... "

You mean like ... OBAMA?

Who promised to close GITMO? Hold Wall Street to account? Be the most transparent administration ever? And who just released a lying-shitstorm book?

"... and to threaten to murder people because he lost."

Like SECOND/you? Who seem to constantly revert to violence and the threat of shooting/ assassination at any peckish discomfit?

Quote:

They switch between acting stupid, lying or filling the forum with cut and paste text from zerohedge or similar - what's the point?
Quote:

Do you have any Evidence for those claims?

Alzheimer's worse today? Don't know how to google? Can't distinguish between fantasy and reality? Same old stupid piece of shit? Ethics broken again? So sad.

Sure I have evidence! Because I'm not like you!

Guantanamo Bay: Why has Obama failed on his promise to close controversial detention camp?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/guantanamo-bay-closi
ng-why-has-obama-failed-a7194241.html


"... special unit of federal prosecutors and leading state attorneys general to expand our investigations into the abusive lending and packaging of risky mortgages that led to the housing crisis. (Applause.) This new unit will hold accountable those who broke the law ..."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-i-dont-care-about-t_b_4978653

"I won't stop fighting to open up government."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-obama-adminis
trations-abject-failure-on-transparency/252387
/

RF: I hope a black kid beats the shit out of you, pussy racist piece of shit.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62487&p=1

SECOND: My advice to you is to kill any boss who fucks you over, steal his money, and don't get caught.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61954&p=85


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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Meanwhile, anyone from the TDS cult have anything interesting to post?

Or are you insistent on the same old completely unlinked (stupidities/ libels/ off-topic diversions) you always post?



RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:25 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Meanwhile, anyone from the TDS cult have anything interesting to post?

Or are you insistent on the same old completely unlinked (stupidities/ libels/ off-topic diversions) you always post?



RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

You're a Russian troll. How seriously do you think we take you? You are easily crushed with basic information, every time. You're not hard to destroy, which is why I crush you constantly.

This isn't cultish at all...


The higher the truck, the lower the IQ.



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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


CULT?


CULT?


CULT?


CULT?








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Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Don't you people have jobs or something to do?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:18 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I still can't figure out if you are paid by the post/thread or word...? You've posted variations on this sooooo many times over the years, so maybe all 3?

Yanno what I wish? I wish that just once, you'd tell us what you think America's interests are.

"Will the DNC EVER recognize that their pro-transnational elite policies are the source of their election difficulties?" Sure, "pro-transnational elite policies" are exactly why people voted for Trump.

Jo: "Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections



Sig, kiki = russian trolls

T



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Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:22 AM

THG


Bottom line is Biden's a winner, Trump and his minions are losers.

T



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Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


We're all losers if Biden actually gets inaugurated.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:39 AM

REAVERFAN






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Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:53 AM

REAVERFAN


‘Reach Out to Trump Supporters,’ They Said. I Tried.
I give up.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/opinion/trump-supporters.html

I did my part. What was my reward? Listening to Trump’s base chant, “Send her back!” in reference to Representative Ilhan Omar, a black Muslim woman, who came to America as a refugee. I saw the Republican Party transform the McCloskeys into victims, even though the wealthy St. Louis couple illegally brandished firearms against peaceful BLM protesters. Their bellicosity was rewarded with a prime time slot at the Republican National Convention where they warned about “chaos” in the suburbs being invaded by people of color. Their speech would have fit well in ”The Birth of a Nation."

We cannot help people who refuse to help themselves. Trump is an extension of their id, their culture, their values, their greed. He is their defender and savior. He is their blunt instrument. He is their destructive drug of choice.



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Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

CC:

I still can't figure out if you are paid by the post/thread or word...? You've posted variations on this sooooo many times over the years, so maybe all 3?

Yanno what I wish? I wish that just once, you'd tell us what you think America's interests are.

And then he goes on to complain that I have been posting about America's interests for a DECADE, long before TRUMP! and RUSSIA! ever became issues.

Because he lies so much, he can't even keep his own lies straight.

Quote:

SIGNY: "Will the DNC EVER recognize that their pro-transnational elite policies are the source of their election difficulties?" Sure, "pro-transnational elite policies" are exactly why people voted for Trump.

Jo: "Did you ever look at that Wiki paje about all the Russian contacts? there are hundredz and nobody ever debunked any uv them."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_
2016_United_States_elections

THUGR: Sig, kiki = russian trolls

And then THUGR swallows the schiess that CC shits out, and thinks it's chocolate milk. When I've found the stupidest post in a thread, I know it's THUGR's

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:59 AM

REAVERFAN


Everyone knows you're a Russian troll. That is a fact, not an assumption.



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Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
‘Reach Out to Trump Supporters,’ They Said. I Tried.
I give up.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/opinion/trump-supporters.html

I did my part. What was my reward? Listening to Trump’s base chant, “Send her back!” in reference to Representative Ilhan Omar, a black Muslim woman, who came to America as a refugee. I saw the Republican Party transform the McCloskeys into victims, even though the wealthy St. Louis couple illegally brandished firearms against peaceful BLM protesters. Their bellicosity was rewarded with a prime time slot at the Republican National Convention where they warned about “chaos” in the suburbs being invaded by people of color. Their speech would have fit well in ”The Birth of a Nation."

We cannot help people who refuse to help themselves. Trump is an extension of their id, their culture, their values, their greed. He is their defender and savior. He is their blunt instrument. He is their destructive drug of choice.






Four years of whining and crying and literally burning shit down and you're going to pretend that Leftists are taking the high ground now.

lol

Good luck with that.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:




WOW, look at that: REAVERBOT describes his own cult member-like behavior.

It's bizarre, it really is: the stupidest person complains how stupid other people are, the most evil person rants how other people are evil, and the most brainwashed person insists that others are cult members. All so very on-target. Not.


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Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:14 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I see CC is back to posting more go se.



So you can't refute anything on that list? Just deflect and run away? Curious.

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:15 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

CC:

I still can't figure out if you are paid by the post/thread or word...? You've posted variations on this sooooo many times over the years, so maybe all 3?

Yanno what I wish? I wish that just once, you'd tell us what you think America's interests are.

And then he goes on to complain that I have been posting about America's interests for a DECADE, long before TRUMP! and RUSSIA! ever became issues.




You got punked, sweety - deal with it. Or, maybe you don't remember posting "what are America's issues?" about a dozen times? Brain leak? Sad.

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 9:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Have fun being completely useless all day everyone.



Keep fighting the good fight.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:55 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Alzheimer's worse today? Don't know how to google? Can't distinguish between fantasy and reality? Same old stupid piece of shit? Ethics broken again? So sad.




I can't wait to throw that back in your face every time you dumbly say, "do you have evidence?"

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Sure I have evidence! Because I'm not like you!

Guantanamo Bay: Why has Obama failed on his promise to close controversial detention camp?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/guantanamo-bay-closi
ng-why-has-obama-failed-a7194241.html




That's not evidence he lied - did you read the article you posted? FAIL

"... special unit of federal prosecutors and leading state attorneys general to expand our investigations into the abusive lending and packaging of risky mortgages that led to the housing crisis. (Applause.) This new unit will hold accountable those who broke the law ..."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-i-dont-care-about-t_b_4978653

Nope: "But, two years later, the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Justice issued on 13 March 2014 its “Audit of the Department of Justice’s Efforts to Address Mortgage Fraud,” and reported that it turned out to be just a lie [from the DOJ]. DOJ didn’t even try; and they lied even about their efforts. The IG found: “DOJ did not uniformly ensure that mortgage fraud was prioritized at a level commensurate with its public statements. For example, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Criminal Investigative Division ranked mortgage fraud as the lowest criminal threat in its lowest crime category."

Any evidence Obama lied? Oh, Right, an un-named leaker said he said something. Man, if I had a dime for every time Trumptards like you said un-named sources aren't valid...

"I won't stop fighting to open up government."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-obama-adminis
trations-abject-failure-on-transparency/252387
/

I actually TRUST The Atlantic, so I'll give you that one. You're 1 for 3.

Your turn.

Jo brought evidence. So far you have just ignored it, or you just made a stupid wisecrack (essentially the same thing).

Let me help you:

2016 presidential campaign[edit]
Further information: Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign
June–December 2015[edit]
June 16: Donald Trump announces his candidacy for president.[150]
June 17: In an interview on the Fox News show Hannity, Sean Hannity asks Trump if he has talked to Putin. Trump replies, "I don't want to say. But I got to meet all of the leaders. I got to meet all—I mean, everybody was there. It was a massive event. And let me tell you, it was tremendous."[151]
Late June: Flynn travels to Egypt and Israel.[147] In September 2017, members of Congress present evidence to Mueller that Flynn's purpose was to promote a Russian-backed plan for the building of 40 nuclear reactors, with "total regional security" to be provided by U.S.-sanctioned Russian weapons exporter Rosoboron.[152][153][154][155]
July: Trump receives an invitation to Moscow for the 60th birthday of Aras Agalarov, who co-hosted the Miss Universe pageant with him in 2013.[156]
July onward: Thousands of fake Twitter accounts run by the IRA begin to praise Trump over his political opponents by a wide margin, according to a later analysis by The Wall Street Journal.[157][158]
July 8–12: Butina and Erickson attend Freedomfest 2015 in Las Vegas.[20]:594–596[159] They are registered to attend private events with Norquist, Dinesh D'Souza. and Peter Thiel.[20]:594
July 9: Butina and Erickson attend a bitcoin panel with former Overstock.com CEO Patrick M. Byrne. They greet Byrne and discuss Overstock.com's work with women in Afghanistan. Afterward, Butina sends Byrne an email drafted by Erickson thanking him for their discussion and inviting him to meet on July 12 to discuss the types of reforms Russia should embrace.[20]:595 In 2020, a Senate Intelligence Committee report finds that Butina and Erickson were interested in Byrne as a possible conduit to Senator and presidential candidate Rand Paul.[20]:595–596
July 11: Butina attends FreedomFest in Las Vegas, where Trump is speaking and taking questions. She asks Trump his stance on continuing sanctions; he replies he knows Putin and doesn't think sanctions are needed.[53] Reviewing a video of the encounter, Bannon says, "Trump had a fully developed answer".[160]
July 13: Butina is present at Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's presidential candidacy announcement.[53] At Torshin's request, she writes an analytical assessment of Walker's candidacy.[20]:592–593
July 15: George Papadopoulos contacts Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski about joining the campaign as a policy advisor.[161][28]:81
July 17: Keene sends Torshin a letter introducing Rohrabacher and suggesting they meet during the congressman's August trip to Moscow.[20]:596
July 24: Rob Goldstone emails Trump's assistant Rhona Graff, suggesting that Emin Agalarov could arrange a meeting between Putin and Trump.[162][163]
Summer: Hackers linked to the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) gain access to the Democratic National Committee's computer network.[164] Dutch intelligence services gain access to Russian hacking group Cozy Bear in mid-2014 and later alert their U.S. counterparts that Cozy Bear, together with Fancy Bear, have penetrated the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers.[124]
July 31: Flynn gives a speech to Kaspersky Government Security Solutions, a subsidiary of Kaspersky Lab, for which he is later paid $11,250.[20]:755[165]
August:
Papadopoulos emails Michael Glassner, the executive director of Trump's campaign committee, expressing further interest in joining the campaign as a policy advisor. He continues corresponding with Glassner and Lewandowski for months, but is repeatedly told no position is available for him.[161]
Flynn travels to New York City to meet Trump for the first time.[166]
August 3: Torshin and Butina discuss Rohrabacher over Twitter direct messages. He tells Butina that he believes Rohrabacher is "under the watch" of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.[20]:597
August 4–6: Rohrabacher and Behrends travel to Russia.[167] While there, Rohrabacher meets Butina and Torshin for breakfast.[168] In July 2018, Rohrabacher tells Politico he dined with Butina and another congressman accompanying him on the trip.[169]
August 6:
Butina tells Keene about her breakfast discussion with Rorhabacher, including that Butina could meet with Rohrabacher in the U.S. in October.[20]:597–598
Keene sends Butina a list of proposed NRA attendees for the December "Right to Bear Arms" event in Moscow.[20]:599
August 8: Roger Stone leaves the Trump campaign. The campaign says it fired Stone, but Stone insists he quit. He subsequently gives the press a resignation letter that the campaign says it never received.[170]
August 12: Butina and Torshin discuss plans for the NRA trip to Moscow, including possibly hosting "high level meetings" if the delegation is sufficiently "respectable."[20]:599
August 15 The FBI Washington field office contacts technical staff at the DNC headquarters to alert them that their computer systems have been penetrated and data compromised by the Russians.[171]
August 17: Konstantin Rykov, the founder of the Russian online newspaper Vzglyad, registers two domain names: Trump2016.ru and DonaldTrump2016.ru.[28]:66
August 18: Georgi Asatryan of Vzglyad emails Hope Hicks to arrange an in-person or phone interview with Trump. According to the Mueller Report, the proposed interview never occurs.[28]:66
August 20: Kislyak meets with Keene and Allan Cors at the NRA headquarters.[20]:593
August 21: Sessions makes his first appearance at a Trump campaign rally.[172]
September:
An FBI special agent reports to the DNC that at least one of its computer systems has been hacked by an espionage team linked to the Russian government. The agent is transferred to a tech-support contractor at the help desk, who makes a cursory check of DNC server logs and does not reply to the agent's follow-up calls, allegedly because of a belief that the call might have been a prank.[173]
Jill Stein speaks briefly with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov at a Russia Today gala in New York City.[174] She is an invited guest at the event.[20]:805
The FBI and Ohr try to recruit Deripaska as an informant on the Kremlin and Russian organized crime in exchange for a U.S. visa. Steele helped set up the meeting.[133]
A New York architect completes plans for a bold glass obelisk 100 stories high in Moscow, with the Trump logo on multiple sides.[175]
Cohen attempts to arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin during the United Nations General Assembly session, with Trump asking for status updates several times. After phone calls and emails, a Russian official finally tells Cohen that such a meeting would not follow protocol.[60]:141–142
The IRA begins posting videos on YouTube primarily aimed at African-Americans, eventually posting over 1,100 videos with 43 hours of content on 17 YouTube channels. The politically oriented videos are anti-Clinton, and some videos discourage African Americans from voting or encourage voting for Jill Stein.[123]:58
September–October: The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website primarily funded by billionaire Paul Singer, hires Fusion GPS to perform opposition research on Trump. Initially a Marco Rubio supporter, Singer continues to fund the research after Rubio withdraws from the race.[176][177]
September 11: Trump speaks at the Yalta European Strategy conference in Kyiv via satellite. The organizer of the event, Victor Pinchuk, donates $150,000 to Trump's charity, the Trump Foundation.[178][179]
Late September: Felix Sater meets with Michael Cohen on behalf of I.C. Expert Investment Company to discuss building a Trump Tower in Moscow. I.C. Expert is a Russian real estate development corporation controlled by Andrei Vladimirovich Rozov. Sater agrees to find a developer and arrange for financing. Sater later contacts Rozov to propose that I.C. Expert work with the Trump Organization on the project.[180][181][28]:69
September 21: On Hugh Hewitt's radio program, Trump says, "The oligarchs are under [Putin's] control, to a large extent. I mean, he can destroy them, and he has destroyed some of them... Two years ago, I was in Moscow... I was with the top-level people, both oligarchs and generals, and top-of-the-government people. I can't go further than that, but I will tell you that I met the top people, and the relationship was extraordinary."[182]
September 22: Cohen forwards a Trump Tower Moscow preliminary design study to Giorgi Rtskhiladze, who then emails it to his associate Simon Nizharadze, writing, ""if we could organize the meeting in New York at the highest level of the Russian Government and Mr. Trump this project would definitely receive the worldwide attention."[28]:70
September 24: Rtskhiladze emails Cohen a draft letter for the Trump Organization to send to the mayor of Moscow, explaining, ""[w]e need to send this letter to the Mayor of Moscow (second guy in Russia) he is aware of the potential project and will pledge his support." Later that day he sends Cohen a translation of the letter that describes Trump Tower Moscow as a "symbol of stronger economic, business and cultural relationships between New York and Moscow and therefore United States and the Russian Federation."[28]:70
September 27: Rtskhiladze emails Cohen a proposal for the Trump Organization to partner with Global Development Group LLC on the Trump Tower Moscow project. He describes Global Development as controlled by Nizharadze and the architect Michail Posikhin. In September 2018 Cohen tells Mueller's team that he declined the proposal and decided to continue with Sater's proposed partner, I.C. Expert Investment Company.[28]:69–70
October: For his July 31 remarks during a cybersecurity forum in Washington, D.C., Flynn receives $11,250 from Kaspersky Government Security Solutions Inc., the American subsidiary of Kaspersky Lab, owned by Eugene Kaspersky.[165][183]
October 5: Flynn gives an interview to Russia Today in which he criticizes the U.S. approach to ISIS and suggests the U.S. work with Russia to confront the group.[20]:755[184] After the interview, his son, Flynn Jr., receives an invitation from Russia Today for Flynn to be a guest of honor at their December gala in Moscow.[20]:755
October 6: Butina sends Torshin a list of seven potential members for the NRA Moscow delegation, including Cors and his wife, Goldschlanger and his daughter, and Keene and his wife.[20]:600–601
October 9: Sater emails Cohen about his plans to meet with and persuade Andrey Molchanov to provide the land for a Trump Tower in Moscow.[180][181]
October 12: Cohen has a series of email exchanges with Felix Sater about developing a Trump property in Moscow.[156] Sater tells Cohen that VTB Bank will fund the project, and that his associates will be meeting with Putin and a deputy on October 14.[180][181]
October 13: Sater sends Cohen a letter of intent signed by Andrey Rozov for Trump to sign to move the Moscow project forward.[185][181]
October 14: Russia Today invites Stein to its anniversary gala in Moscow.[20]:805
October 19: Butina emails Erickson asking how influential Cors, Keene, Goldschlager, and Liberatore are in U.S. politics, stressing that they need politically important people to attend the December conference in Moscow.[20]:599
October 20: Flynn gives a speech to Volga-Dnepr Airlines for $11,250.[20]:755
October 25: Butina invites incoming NRA President Pete Brownell to join the NRA Moscow delegation in December so that he can meet Russian gun manufacturers and retailers.[20]:599
October 28:
Trump signs a letter of intent (LOI) to construct a Trump-branded building in Moscow hours before the third Republican presidential debate, a fact made public in August 2017.[186][187][180][181][188] The LOI proposes that the tower have "[a]pproximately 250 first class, luxury residential condominiums" and "[o]ne first class, luxury hotel consisting of approximately 15 floors and containing not fewer than 150 hotel rooms." The Trump Organization would receive 1%–5% of all condominium sales and 3% of all rental and other revenues, and 20% of the operating profit.[28]:71
Stein and Nadia Ivanova of Russia Today discuss arranging meetings for Stein with Russian government officials during Stein's upcoming trip to Moscow, including with Putin and Lavrov. According to Stein, she makes her request through Russia Today because she has contacts there and doesn't know anyone at the Russian embassy.[20]:805–806
Erickson and Butina dine with Keene at the University Club of Washington, DC. According to the Senate Intelligence Committee, they may have discussed Keene's desire to interview Putin for The Washington Times while in Moscow.[20]:602
November: Trump associate Felix Sater emails Trump lawyer Michael Cohen: "Michael, I arranged for Ivanka to sit in Putin's private chair at his desk and office in the Kremlin [...] Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it. I will get all of Putin's team to buy in on this".[189][34] Sater also tells Cohen that the Kremlin's VTB Bank is ready to finance a Trump Tower project in Moscow.[81]
November 2:
Cohen emails the Trump Tower Moscow letter of intent to Rozov.[28]:69
Butina asks Torshin how to arrange an interview for Keene with Putin. He responds that an interview is unlikely, but says he will pass on the request to Peskov.[20]:602
November 3:
In an email to Cohen, Sater predicts that building a Trump Tower in Moscow will help Trump's presidential campaign. "I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected."[156][181]
The IRA Instagram account "Stand For Freedom" attempts to organize a confederate rally in Houston, Texas, on November 14. It is unclear whether anyone showed up. The Mueller Report identifies this as the IRA's first attempt to organize a U.S. rally.[190][28]:29
November 9: Stein again emails Ivanova asking for help arranging meetings with Lavrov and Putin.[20]:806
November 9–19: Russia Today arranges Stein's trip to Moscow and offers to pay for it. Stein declines and refuses to be paid for participating on panels at the event. Her campaign pays for the trip.[20]:807
November 10: At the Republican debate in Milwaukee, Trump claims that he met Putin in a green room and "got to know him very well" while waiting to record their 60 minutes interviews that aired on September 27. Fact checkers quickly point out that Trump and Putin could not have met in the green room because Trump was interviewed in New York City and Putin was interviewed in Moscow.[191]
November 11: Flynn signs a contract with Russia Today to speak at its December gala in Moscow.[20]:756
November 12–16: Torshin and Butina discuss how to arrange a meeting with Rogozin requested by the NRA delegation since Rogozin is under U.S. sanctions. Butina says the delegation still wants the meeting despite the sanctions.[20]:602–603
November 13:
Butina tells Torshin that Simes banned CNI personnel from talking to her because he thinks she is an SVR agent.[20]:590
Ivanova tells Stein that a meeting with Lavrov and Putin is unlikely, but Stein will be seated at Putin's table at the gala. She offers meetings with Duma Foreign Affairs Committee chair Aleksey Pushkov and Federation Council Committee on International Affairs chair Konstantin Kosachev.[20]:806–807
Concerned that Cors may not be able to attend the NRA Moscow trip, Butina emails David and Donna Keene to persuade Cors to attend. She highlights "high level special events" Torshin arranged, writing that the Russian figures involved wanted to meet the "head of the most powerful political organization in America. She mentions private meetings with Russian Security Council First Secretary Nikolai Patrushev, Rogozin, Public Council of the Russian Ministry of Defense chairman Pavel Gusev, head of Putin's presidential campaigns Igor Pisarsky, and oligarch and patron of "The Right to Bear Arms" Konstantin Nikolaev.[20]:599–600
November 16: Lana Erchova (a.k.a. Lana E. Alexander) sends an email to Ivanka Trump in which she offers the services of her husband, Dmitry Klokov, to the Trump campaign.[192][28]:72 According to the Mueller Report, Klokov is the "Director of External Communications for PJSC Federal Grid Company of Unified Energy System, a large Russian electricity transmission company, and had been previously employed as an aide and press secretary to Russia's energy minister."[28]:72–73 Ivanka forwards the email to Cohen.[28]:73 In July 2018, Erchova tells Mueller's team that Russian officials wanted to offer Trump "land in Crimea among other things" and an "unofficial meeting with Putin."[28]:73 At least until August 2018, Cohen mistakenly thinks Klokov is the Olympic weightlifter of the same name.[192][28]:73
November 18:
IC Expert, the developer for the Trump Tower Moscow project and a signatory to Trump's letter of intent[193], receives a non-revolving line of credit from Sberbank for 10.6 billion rubles.[citation needed] IC Expert provides 100% of its equity to secure the line of credit.[citation needed] Sberbank agrees to finance 70% of the Trump Tower Moscow project, its largest commercial real estate loan to date.[80]
Klokov writes in an email to Cohen that he is a "trusted person" offering "political synergy" and "synergy on a government level" to the Trump campaign. He suggests that Cohen travel to Moscow and meet with him and an intermediary. He says the conversations could facilitate an informal meeting between Trump and Putin, and that any such meeting must be separate from any business negotiations, though it would lead to high-level support for projects.[28]:73[192]
November 19:
The IRA creates the @TEN_GOP Twitter account. Purporting to be the "Unofficial Twitter account of Tennessee Republicans," it peaks at over 100,000 followers.[194]
Julian Assange privately tells a group of core WikiLeaks supporters that he prefers the GOP win the election because Clinton "is a bright, well connected, sadistic sociopath" who will have "greater freedom to start wars than the GOP and has the will to do so."[195]
Kolokov writes in an email to Cohen that a properly publicized meeting between Trump and Putin could have a "phenomenal" impact "in a businesss dimension" and boost the "level" of projects if he receives Putin's endorsement.[28]:73–74 Cohen rejects Kolokov's offers, writing, ""[c]urrently our LOI developer is in talks with VP's Chief of Staff and arranging a formal invite for the two to meet."[28]:74[192] In September 2018, Cohen tells Mueller's team that he rejected the offers because he was already pursuing business with Sater and understood Sater had Russian government connections of his own.[28]:74
Erickson emails Brownell about a meeting with "Russia's highest leader." Brownell responds with interest and forwards the email to his Director of Compliance. Erickson also informs Brownell that he (Brownell) will not be able to meet with Rogozin because of U.S. sanctions.[20]:603
November 24: Perrine informs Butina that Brownell will join the NRA delegation in December.[20]:599
November 25:
In an email to Brownell, Erickson writes, "most of the FSB agents 'assigned' to her [Butina] want to marry her", saying that is why she was able to arrange a tour of a Russian arms factory for the NRA delegation.[196]
Perrine sends Keene an itinerary for the NRA's Russia trip that includes meetings with Lavrov and Rogozin.[20]:604
Unable to attend the NRA Moscow trip, Cors writes a letter to Torshin designating Keene and Joe Gregory as official representatives in Moscow for the NRA.[197]:18–19
December: Unable to find a position in the Trump campaign, Papadopoulos joins the Ben Carson campaign.[161]
December 1:
Sater emails Cohen, asking, "Please scan and send me a copy of your passport for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs."[28]:76
Russia Today announces that Flynn will be speaking at its gala.[20]:756[166]
December 2:
Trump tells the Associated Press that he is "not that familiar with" Felix Sater and refers questions to his staff.[198][181]
Flynn and his son, Michael G. Flynn (called "Jr."), visit Kislyak at his home.[199]
December 3: Barbara Ledeen, a longtime staffer for Senator Chuck Grassley on the Senate Judiciary Committee and wife of close Flynn associate and Iran–Contra affair figure Michael Ledeen, sends Peter W. Smith a 25-page proposal for finding Clinton's missing emails.[200][28]:62 The proposal posits that Clinton's private email server was hacked and proposes, among other things, contacting foreign intelligence services to determine if they have any copies of Clinton's emails.[28]:62 At the time, her investigation is not connected to the Trump campaign, though she gives Flynn regular updates throughout the summer of 2016.[28]:62 Smith forwards the email to Jonathan Safron and John Szobocsan.[201][28]:62–63
December 8: Flynn and his son travel to Moscow to attend the Russia Today gala.[20]:757
December 8–13: Outspoken Trump supporter Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke and his wife,[20]:598 former NRA President David Keene, future NRA President Pete Brownell, NRA Golden Ring of Freedom Chair Joe Gregory, major NRA donors Hilary[202] and Arnold Goldschlager, Outdoor Channel CEO Jim Liberatore[203] and his wife,[20]:598 and NRA member Paul Erickson travel to Moscow for the "Right to Bear Arms" convention. They meet Russian government officials, including Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Dmitry Rogozin[204] and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Rogozin is under U.S. sanctions. Butina accompanies the delegation on a tour of the gun manufacturer ORSIS, where they meet with the company's executives, including Svetlana Nikolaev, president of ORSIS's parent company and wife of billionaire Konstantin Nikolaev. They also meet with Torshin and Sergei Rudov, the head of the Saint Basil the Great Charitable Foundation. They attend a party at a Moscow hunting club hosted by Torshin and Gusev. Clarke later files an ethics report showing that Butina's organization, "Right to Bear Arms", covered $6,000 of his expenses.[53][145][205][206][207][208] Butina covers some of the cost of Liberatore's attendance, and is subsequently reimbursed $6,000 by the NRA from its president's budget.[209][210] After the Lavrov meeting, Butina emails Torshin, writing, "We should let them express their gratitude now, and put pressure on them quietly later."[211] In May 2018, NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch denies there was an NRA trip to Moscow, then clarifies in July 2018 that it wasn't an official trip.[129][212][213] A 2019 report by the Democratic Minority of the Senate Finance Committee concludes that despite the public denials, internal NRA documents show the trip was an officially sanctioned event that may have imperiled the NRA's tax-free status.[214][210]
December 9: Stein flies to Moscow with her communications director.[20]:807
December 10:
Stein and Flynn spend the day attending the Russia Today gala. Stein participates on a panel called "Frenemies: defining foes and allies in proxy politics" with Cyril Svoboda, Willy Wimmer, and Ken Livingston.[20]:807–808
Stein attends a cocktail reception before the gala dinner where she socializes with former governor Jesse Ventura and his wife, and networks with "the peace community".[20]:808
Flynn gives a paid speech on world affairs in Moscow, at a gala dinner organized by RT News.[215] Flynn had appeared on RT as an analyst after retiring from the U.S. Army. Putin is the dinner's guest of honor.[216] Flynn is seated next to Putin; among the 10 people seated at the head table are Stein, Wimmer, RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan, and members of Putin's inner circle, including Sergei Ivanov, Dmitry Peskov, Vekselberg, and Alexey Gromov.[217][218][20]:757–758,808 Other dinner attendees include Brooklyn Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov, former U.S.S.R. president Mikhail Gorbachev, other RT officials, and U.S. embassy spokesman William Stevens in his official capacity.[20]:758,802 For his speech, Flynn nets $33,500 of the $45,000 paid to his speakers bureau.[219] For all of 2015, Flynn receives more than $65,000 from companies linked to Russia.[220] On April 25, 2017, Flynn's lawyer claims that Flynn briefed the Defense Intellignece Agency on the trip both before and after.[221]
ABC News reports that Trump denied knowing Sater under oath in a 2013 video deposition even though Sater was involved in several of his high-profile projects. Trump testified, "If he were sitting in the room right now, I really wouldn't know what he looked like." On December 30, Sater tells Cohen that he helped bury the story.[181][222][223]
December 11:
Stein has lunch with Pushkov and is told Kosachev cannot attend.[20]:809
RT leads a tour of the Kremlin with Stein and other guests of the gala.[20]:809
Flynn and his son leave Moscow.[20]:757
December 13: Stein returns home from Moscow.[20]:809
December 16: Smith declines to help Ledeen's endeavor to find Clinton's emails because he feels the search isn't viable at the time.[28]:63
December 19: In an email to Cohen, Sater talks about securing financing from VTB, a Russian bank under American sanctions.[156][28]:76 Sater also asks for Cohen's and Trump's passport information so that VTB can facilitate obtaining visas.[28]:76 VTB would be issuing the invitation, he writes, because "[p]olitically neither Putins office nor Ministry of Foreign Affairs cannot issue invite, so they are inviting commercially/ business."[28]:76 He writes that they will be invited to the Russian consulate that week to receive an invitation and visas for traveling to Russia.[28]:76 Cohen sends images of his own passport but not Trump's.[181][224][28]:76
December 21:
Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta receives an email, which is later leaked by WikiLeaks, advising the campaign on how to handle Trump, recommending that the "best approach is to slaughter Donald for his bromance with Putin".[225]
Sater texts Cohen asking again for a copy of Trump's passport.[28]:77 Cohen replies, "After I return from Moscow with you with a date for him."[28]:77 In September 2018 Cohen tells Mueller's team that Rhona Graff provided Trump's passport to Cohen's office, but the Mueller Report says the team could not find any evidence of a copy being sent to Sater.[28]:76-77
On Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Prikhodko's behalf, Mira Duma emails Ivanka Trump an invitation for Donald Trump to attend the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. Duma is acquainted with Ivanka from the fashion industry.[28]:78
December 30: Cohen emails Sater complaining about the lack of progress on the Trump Tower Moscow project. Sater responds that he helped bury an ABC News story in which Trump denied knowing him.[181][222] Cohen tells Sater in a text message that he will set up a meeting with Russian government officials himself."[28]:74
December 31: Sater tells Cohen that Genbank (??????? [ru]), recently put under U.S. sanctions, will be the new funder for the Trump Tower Moscow project.[181]
Late 2015 – early 2016: Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump are included on emails about the Trump Tower Moscow project. Ivanka Trump recommends an architect.[181][226]
January–March 2016[edit]
January:
Flynn applies to renew his security clearance for five years. In an interview with security investigators he claims U.S. companies paid for his trip to the RT dinner in Moscow. Documents subsequently obtained by the House Oversight Committee show that RT paid for the trip.[227]
FBI initiates tax evasion and money laundering investigation regarding payments from the Ukrainian government to Paul Manafort.[228]
January 3: GRU chief Sergun dies from a reported heart attack. Flynn reaches out to Kislyak to express his condolences.[20]:758
January 7: Ivanka Trump forwards to Rhona Graff the December 21 invitation for her father she received from Duma on Prikhodko's behalf.[28]:78
January 11: Cohen tries to send an email to Dmitry Peskov asking to be connected to Putin's chief of staff, Sergei Ivanov, but it bounces because of a typo in the email address.[28]:74
January 14:
Cohen emails Peskov atinfo@prpress.gov.ru seeking help to jump-start the Trump Tower Moscow project because "the communication between our two sides has stalled", but does not receive a response.[156][181][229][230][28]:74 In August 2017 Peskov tells CNN that Cohen's email "went unanswered [because it] was solely regarding a real estate deal and nothing more."[229]
Graff responds to Duma's December 21 email that Trump is "honored to be asked to participate in the highly prestigious" St. Petersburg Forum, but must decline the invitation because of his "very grueling and full travel schedule." Graff asks Duma if she should "send a formal note to the Deputy Prime Minister," and Duma replies that that would be "great."[28]:78–79
January 16: Cohen emails at Peskov at Pr_peskov@prpress.gov.ru, the correct address he mistyped on January 11, and repeats his request to speak with Ivanov.[181][28]:74 Later Cohen tells Congress and Mueller's team that he received no response to this email and abandoned the Trump Moscow Project. He later admits to federal prosecutors that he did receive a response and continued working on the project and keeping Trump updated on progress into June 2016.[231][28]:74–75
January 19: Konstantin Sidorkov, executive at VKontakte (commonly called VK, Russia's equivalent of Facebook), emails Trump Jr. and social media director Dan Scavino offering to help promote Trump's campaign to its nearly 100 million users. Goldstone brokered the overture.[156] Sidorkov emails again on November 5, 2016.[232]
January 20:
A Russian social media company emails Trump Jr., Trump's personal assistant, and Scavino about setting up a page for Trump's campaign.[156]
Peskov's personal assistant Elena Polikova sends an email to Cohen from her personal account asking him to call her on her personal phone number, which she provides.[28]:75 Cohen calls her and explains the nature and status of the project, and asks for assistance with securing land and financing.[28]:75[181][233] The conversation includes a discussion of giving Putin a $50 million penthouse in the tower as a gift.[181][233] Later Cohen tells prosecutors that Polikova took notes, asked detailed questions, and said she needed to follow up with people in Russia.[28]:75
January 21: Sater texts Cohen asking for a call. He writes, "It's about Putin they called today."[28]:75[60]:136[181] Sater emails Cohen a draft invitation from Genbank for Cohen to visit Russia, which Sater says is being offered at the behest of VTB, and asks Cohen if any changes need to be made.[28]:75 Sater and Cohen work on edits for the next few days.[28]:75
January 25: Sater sends Cohen a signed invitation from Andrey Ryabinskiy of the company MHJ to travel to "Moscow for a working visit" about the "prospects of development and the construction business in Russia," "the various land plots available suited for construction of this enormous Tower," and "the opportunity to co-ordinate a follow up visit to Moscow by Mr. Donald Trump."[28]:75[60]:136[181] In September 2018 Cohen tells Mueller's team that he didn't use the invitation to travel to Moscow because he didn't receive any concrete proposals for suitable land plots.[28]:75-76
January 26: Sater asks Cohen to take a call from Evgeny Shmykov, who is coordinating their project in Moscow. Cohen agrees.[181]
January 30: Carter Page emails senior Trump Campaign officials, including Glassner, informing them that his discussions with "high level contacts" with "close ties to the Kremlin" led him to believe "a direct meeting in Moscow between Mr[.] Trump and Putin could be arranged."[28]:98
February–April: Papadopoulos works for the same company as Mifsud, the London Centre of International Law Practice.[64][234]
February 2: Trump comes in second in the Iowa caucuses. In 2017 Cohen asserts that all efforts on the Trump Tower Moscow project ended before this date.[181]
February 4: Papadopoulos contacts Lewandowski via LinkedIn and emails Michael Glassner about joining the Trump campaign.[28]:82
February 4–5: Kremlin information security adviser Andrey Krutskikh tells the Infoforum 2016 conference in Moscow that Russia's new "information arena" strategies are equivalent to the 1940s nuclear bomb tests that put the Soviet Union on equal footing when talking to the United States.[235]
February 4–6: Papadopoulos reaches out to the London Centre of International Law Practice (LCILP) looking for a job because his role at the Carson campaign is over. He takes a position at the ICILP's London office.[28]:81–82
February 10: IRA instructs workers to "use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump—we support them)."[156]
February 28: Sessions formally endorses Trump.[172]
February 29:
Manafort submits a five-page proposal to Trump outlining his qualifications to help Trump secure enough convention delegates and win the Republican presidential nomination. Manafort describes how he assisted several business and political leaders, notably in Russia and Ukraine.[236]
Trump receives a letter from Aras Agalarov expressing "great interest" in Trump's "bright electoral campaign."[156]
March: Carter Page begins working for the Trump campaign as an unpaid foreign policy adviser.[237][238][239]
Early March: Papadopoulos tells Glassner he is free again to join Trump's campaign. Glassner connects Papadopoulos with campaign co-chairman Sam Clovis. Clovis tells Papadopoulos that improving Russia relations is a top foreign policy goal for the campaign.[161]
Clovis recommends Carter Page to the campaign.[240]
March 2:
Assange consoles a core WikiLeaks supporter who is upset about Clinton's success in the primary elections the day before, writing, "Perhaps Hillary will have a stroke."[195]
Papadopoulos again emails Glassner about joining the Trump campaign. Joy Lutes responds to Papaoapoulos that Glassner instructed her to introduce him to national co-chair and chief policy advisor Sam Clovis.[28]:82
March 3:
Sessions is appointed to the Trump campaign's national security advisory committee.[172]
Clovis researches Papadopoulos on Google. Clovis is impressed with his past work at the Hudson Institute and arranges a phone call for March 6.[28]:82
March 6: Clovis asks Papadopoulos to join the Trump campaign as a foreign policy advisor after discussing the position in a phone call.[28]:82[241][242][243] The campaign hires Papadopoulos on Ben Carson's recommendation.[244] Papadopoulos is told that a priority of the campaign is a better relationship with Russia.[156][28]:82
March 12: Russian-American Simon Kukes donates $2,700 to the Trump campaign. It is his first-ever political donation. In 2017, his 2016 political donations become a subject of the Mueller investigation.[245]
March 14:
Papadopoulos first meets Mifsud while in Rome on a trip to visit officials affiliated with Link Campus University as part of his LCILP job.[241][246][28]:82–83 After Papadopoulos mentions his position with the Trump campaign, Mifsud shows more interest and offers to introduce him to European leaders and others with contacts to the Russian government.[28]:83
Kushner attends a CNI lunch for Henry Kissinger at the invitation of CNI board member Richard Plepler. Kushner uses it as an opportunity to seek Simes's assistance in securing foreign policy professionals' support for the Trump campaign.[247][28]:104
March 15:
Trump closes in on the Republican nomination, having won five primaries.[248]
In Moscow, Russian military intelligence hacker Ivan Yermakov, working for Fancy Bear, begins probing the DNC computer network.[248]
In St. Petersburg, shift workers posing as Americans follow instructions to attack Clinton on Facebook and Twitter.[248]
March 16:
The FBI releases its Report of Investigation on Flynn's security clearance renewal application.[227]
WikiLeaks publishes a searchable archive of 30,000 Clinton emails that had been released by the State Department in response to a FOIA request.[249][28]:44–45 Internal WikiLeaks messages indicate the purpose of the archive is to annoy Clinton and establish WikiLeaks as a "resource/player" in the election.[28]:44–45
March 17:
According to Trump's written answers to Mueller's team, Prikhodko sends another invitation for Trump to attend the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum to Rhona Graff.[28]:79
Papadopoulos returns to London from his Rome trip.[28]:84
March 19: Podesta is asked to change his email password in an apparent phishing attempt, believed to be spearheaded by Russian hackers. They gain access to his account,[164] and proceed to steal the entire contents of his account, about 50,000 emails.[156]
March 21:
In a Washington Post interview,[250][251] Trump names members of his foreign policy team, including Papadopoulos and Page.[156][28]:84,98 Page had helped open the Moscow office of investment banking firm Merrill Lynch and advised Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom, in which Page is an investor. He had blamed 2014 US sanctions relating to Russia's annexation of Crimea for driving down Gazprom's stock price.[252]
Russian hackers steal over 50,000 emails from Podesta's account.[253]
March 24:
In London, Papadopoulos meets Mifsud and Olga Polonskaya, who falsely claims to be Putin's niece.[254] Polonskaya tells Papadopoulos that she is a friend of the Russian ambassador in London and offers to help establish contacts with Russia.[28]:84 Papadopoulos leaves the meeting with the expectation that he will be introduced to the Russian ambassador, but it never occurs.[28]:84 Polonskaya is in regular email contact with Papadopoulos, in one message writing, "We are all very excited by the possibility of a good relationship with Mr. Trump".[246]
Papadopoulos emails Trump campaign officials about his new Russian contacts.[156] He emails Trump's foreign policy team that he met with Putin's niece and the Russian ambassador in London, and claims the ambassador also acts as the Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia.[28]:84 He writes that the Russian leadership wants to meet with campaign officials in a "neutral" city or Moscow "to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump", and that Putin and the Russian leadership are ready to meet with Trump.[28]:84 Clovis replies that he thinks any meetings with Russians should be delayed until after the campaign has a chance to talk with NATO allies and "we have everyone on the same page."[28]:85 In 2018, Papadopoulos tells the House Judiciary Committee that he lied about meeting the Russian ambassador.[20]:476
Papadopoulos searches Google for information on Polonskaya and discovers that she is not Putin's niece.[28]:84
March 25: Lawyer Alexandra Chalupa, who worked in the White House Office of Public Liaison during the Clinton administration and has strong ties to the Ukrainian-American community, shares with the Ukrainian ambassador to the U.S. her concerns that Manafort may get involved with the Trump campaign. Chalupa had become familiar with Manafort's activities in Ukraine while researching the turmoil in the country over the previous two years for a pro bono client.[255]
March 26: Papadopolous searches the Internet for Andrei Klimov and Ivan Timofeev. Mifsud introduces Papadopolous to Timofeev on April 18.[20]:477
March 28:
Manafort is brought on to the campaign to lead the delegate-wrangling effort.[156] According to Gates, Manafort travels to Mar-a-Lago in Florida to ask for the job, without pay, and is hired on the spot.[28]:135 In 2018, Gates tells Mueller's team that Manafort's intention was to monetize his relationship with the new administration should Trump win.[28]:135
Clovis emails Lewandowski and other campaign officials praising Page's work for the campaign.[28]:98
March 29:
On Stone's recommendation,[256] Manafort joins the Trump campaign as convention manager, tasked with lining up delegates.[257]
Polonskaya attempts to send Papadopoulos a text message that was drafted by Mifsud. The message addresses Papadopoulos's "wish to engage with the Russian Federation."[28]:87
The Trump campaign announces that Manafort will be the campaign's Convention Manager.[28]:134[258]
March 30:
Chalupa briefs the DNC's communications staff on Manafort's and Trump's ties to Russia.[255]
Gates sends four memoranda written by Manafort to Kilimnik for translation and distribution. The memoranda, addressed separately to Deripaska and Ukrainian oligarchs Lyovochkin, Akhmetov, and Boris Kolesnikov, describe Manafort's new role with the Trump campaign and express his willingness to continue consulting on Ukrainian politics. Manafort follows up with Kilimnik on April 11 to ensure the messages were sent and seen by the recipients.[28]:135
March 31:
At the first meeting of Trump's foreign policy team, which includes Trump and Sessions, Papadopoulos speaks of his connections with Russia, and offers to negotiate a meeting between Trump and Putin.[156][259][28]:86 The meeting is held at the yet-to-open Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C..[161] Sessions later states he opposed the idea,[246][260][261][262] and two people who were present support his assertions, but differ in what he objected to and how strongly.[28]:86 In late summer 2017 Papadopoulos and Gordon tell Mueller's team that Trump was "supportive and receptive to the idea of a meeting with Putin," and that Sessions supported Papadopoulos's efforts to arrange a meeting.[28]:86 Papadopoulos's lawyers assert in a September 2018 court filing that Trump nodded in agreement to the offer, and that Sessions said the campaign should look into it.[263]
Graff prepares a letter for Trump's signature that declines Prikhodko's March 17 invitation to St. Petersburg because of Trump's busy schedule, but says he otherwise "would have gladly given every consideration to attending such an important event."[28]:79
New York investment banker Robert Foresman emails Graff seeking an in-person meeting with Trump. The email is sent after Trump business associate Mark Burnett brokers an introductory phone call. Foresman writes that he has long-standing personal and professional expertise in Russia and Ukraine, and mentions that he was involved with setting up an early private back channel between Putin and former president George W. Bush. He also writes about an "approach" he received from "senior Kremlin officials" about Trump. He asks Graff for a meeting with Trump, Lewandowski, or "another relevant person" to discuss the approach and other "concrete things" that he doesn't want to discuss over "unsecure email."[28]:79
Spring:
U.S. intelligence officials' suspicions of Russian meddling in the presidential election grow after their counterparts in Europe warn that Russian money might be flowing into the election.[142]
Stone tells associates he is in contact with Assange.[264]
April 2016[edit]
April:
Between April and November 2016, there are at least 18 further exchanges by telephone and email between Russian officials and the Trump team.[265][266]
Hackers linked to the GRU gain access to the DNC computer network.[164]
Russian social media company SocialPuncher releases an analysis showing that Trump has quoted or retweeted Twitter bots 150 times since the beginning of 2016.[267][268]
The IRA starts buying online ads on social media and other sites. The ads support Trump and attack Clinton.[114][115]
Marc Elias, a lawyer at Perkins Coie and general counsel for the Clinton campaign, takes over funding of the Fusion GPS Trump investigation. He uses discretionary funds at his disposal and does not inform the campaign about the research.[269][270][177]
The intelligence agency of a Baltic state shares a piece of intelligence with the director of the CIA regarding the Trump campaign. The intelligence is allegedly a recording of a conversation about Russian government money going to the Trump campaign.[271]
Stone first told one of Trump's top aides WikiLeaks had plans to leak information during the presidential race, kickstarting the campaign to take advantage of the expected releases.[272][273][274]
April 1: Carter Page is invited to deliver a commencement address at the New Economic School in Moscow in July.[156][28]:98–99
April 1–3:
Rohrabacher meets with Natalia Veselnitskaya in Moscow to discuss the Magnitsky Act. Vladimir Yakunin, under U.S. sanctions, is also present.[275][276] Rohrabacher later says he met Yakunin at the request of Kislyak.[277] He also meets with officials at the Russian Prosecutor General's office, where he receives a document full of accusations against Magnitsky. U.S. Embassy officials are worried Rohrabacher may be meeting with FSB agents. The meeting at the prosecutor's office is not on his itinerary.[275] The document is given to Rohrabacher by Deputy Prosecutor Viktor Grin, who is under U.S. sanctions authorized by the Magnitsky Act. Rohrabacher subsequently uses the document in efforts to undermine the Magnitsky Act.[277] His accepting the document from Grin, a sanctioned individual, and using it to influence U.S. government policy leads to a July 21, 2017, complaint being filed against Rohrabacher and his staff director, Paul Behrends, for violating Magnitsky Act sanctions.[278]
While in Moscow with Rohrabacher, Rohrabacher's aide Paul Behrends introduces Congressman French Hill to Veselnitskaya and Rinat Akhmetshin.[279][276] Veselnitskaya gives Hill a document nearly identical to the one Grin gave to Rohrabacher.[280]
April 3: The IRA Twitter account @TEN_GOP announces that the Tennessee Republican Party endorses Trump.[28]:22
April 4:
A rally is held in Buffalo, New York, protesting the death of India Cummings. Cummings was a black woman who had recently died in police custody. The IRA's "Blacktivist" account on Facebook actively promotes the event, reaching out directly to local activists on Facebook Messenger asking them to circulate petitions and print posters for the event. Blacktivist supplies the petitions and poster artwork.[281]
Graff emails her March 31 letter for Prikhodko to Jessica Macchia, another executive assistant to Trump, to print on letterhead for Trump to sign.[28]:79
Graff forwards Foresman's March 31 email to Macchia.[28]:79
April 6:
Hackers spearphish the credentials of a Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) employee.[253]
Around this date, Chalupa discusses with a foreign policy legislative assistant to Representative Marcy Kaptur the possibility of a congressional investigation into Manafort. Kaptur is the co-chair of the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus. In 2017, Chalupa tells Politico, "It didn't go anywhere."[255]
April 10: Carter Page and Papadopoulos arrange a Skype call in which they discuss outreach to Russia and the Caucasus.[20]:479
April 10–11: Papadopoulos learns of Polonskaya's attempt to send him a text message on March 29 and sends her an email to arrange another meeting. She responds that she is "back in St. Petersburg" but "would be very pleased to support [Papadopoulos's] initiatives between our two countries" and "to meet [him] again." Papadopoulos replies that she should introduce him to "the Russian Ambassador in London" to talk to him or "anyone else you recommend, about a potential foreign policy trip to Russia." Mifsud is copied on the email exchange. Mifsud writes, "This is already been agreed. I am flying to Moscow on the 18th for a Valdai meeting, plus other meetings at the Duma. We will talk tomorrow." Polonskaya responds that she has "already alerted my personal links to our conversation and your request," that "we are all very excited the possibility of a good relationship with Mr. Trump," and that "[t]he Russian Federation would love to welcome him once his candidature would be officially announced."[28]:87
April 11: Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik exchange emails about whether recent press coverage of Manafort joining the Trump campaign can be used to make them "whole" with Deripaska. Manafort is in debt to Deripaska for millions of dollars at the time.[31] Kilimnik confirms to Manafort that Deripaska is aware Manafort is on Trump's campaign team.[156]
April 12:
Russian hackers use stolen credentials to infiltrate the DCCC's computer network and install malware.[156]
Papadopoulos and Mifsud meet at the Andaz Hotel in London.[28]:88
April 16: A rally protesting the death of Freddie Gray attracts large crowds in Baltimore. The IRA's Blacktivist Facebook group promotes and organizes the event, including reaching out to local activists.[282]
April 17: Veselnitskaya's lawyer Mark Cymrot emails her that Ahkmetshin boasted that he recruited Sessions to launch an investigation into U.S. sanctions against Russia.[283]
April 18:
While in Moscow, Mifsud introduces Papadopoulos to Ivan Timofeev via email. Timofeev is the program director of the Kremlin-sponsored Valdai Discussion Club and a member of the Russian International Affairs Council (RIAC). Papadopoulos and Timofeev communicate for months over email and Skype about potential meetings between Russian government officials and members of the Trump campaign. Later records indicate that Timofeev discussed Papadopoulos with former Russian Foreign Minister Igor S. Ivanov.[254][246][243][28]:88 In August 2017, Papadopoulos tells Mueller's team that he believed at the time his conversations with Timofeev were monitored.[28]:88
Russian hackers break into the DNC's computers.[156]
April 19:
Russian hackers create a fictitious online persona, "Carrie Feehan", to register the domain DCLeaks.com, paid for in bitcoin, to release stolen documents.[253][156]
The IRA purchases its first pro-Trump ad through its "Tea Party News" Instagram account. The Instagram ad asks users to upload photos with the hashtag #KIDS4TRU to "make a patriotic team of young Trump supporters."[284]
Papadopoulos meets with Oleg Lebedev, a Russian Trump supporter, at the Byzantium Café in London. Papadopoulos thinks Lebedev is in the oil business in Moscow and has contacts in the Russian government. They met through Lebedev's wife, Maria Alxopoulou.[20]:485
April 19–21: Israeli embassy in London political counselor Christian Cantor introduces Papadopoulos to Australian High Commission to London political counselor Erika Thompson by email. Papadopolous and Thompson arrange to meet on April 26.[20]:487
April 20:
Sater texts Cohen asking when he is going to travel to Moscow.[28]:77
Chalupa receives from the administrators of her email account the first in a series of messages warning that "state-sponsored actors" were trying to hack in to her emails.[255]
April 21: A staffer at the CNI photographs a detailed outline of the foreign policy speech Trump was scheduled to deliver on April 27, which was sitting on the desk of Simes, the Center's president. The House Intelligence Committee would later investigate Simes' involvement in drafting the speech.[285]
April 22: After talking on Skype, Ivan Timofeev thanks Papadopoulos via email "for an extensive talk" and proposes meeting in London or Moscow.[156][20]:483
April 23: A small group of white-power demonstrators hold a rally they call "Rock Stone Mountain" at Stone Mountain Park near Stone Mountain, Georgia. They are confronted by a large group of protesters, and some violent clashes ensue. The counterprotest was heavily promoted by IRA accounts on Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook, and the IRA website blackmatters.com. The IRA uses its Blacktivist account on Facebook to reach out, to no avail, to activist and academic Barbara Williams Emerson, the daughter of Hosea Williams, to help promote the protests. Afterward, RT blames anti-racist protesters for violence and promotes two videos shot at the event.[281]
April 25:
Timofeev emails Papadopoulos that he spoke "to Igor Ivanov[,] the President of RIAC and former Foreign Minister of Russia," and relays Ivanov's advice that a "Moscow visit" should be arranged through the Russian Embassy in Washington because it is a political matter.[28]:88[20]:483–484
Before the second Mifsud meeting, Papadopoulos emails Stephen Miller, informing him that "[t]he Russian government has an open invitation by Putin for Mr. Trump to meet him when he is ready" and that "[t]he advantage of being in London is that these governments tend to speak a bit more openly in 'neutral' cities."[254][156][28]:89
Foresman emails Graff to remind her of his March 31 email seeking a meeting with Trump, Lewandowski, or another appropriate person.[28]:79–80
April 26:
Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News is the first to report on Manafort's legal dispute with Deripaska in the Cayman Islands.[286]
Papadopoulos meets Mifsud in London again at the Andaz Hotel. Mifsud claims that he has learned that Russians are in possession of thousands of stolen emails that may be politically damaging to Clinton.[287][246][254][28]:88–89[20]:486 This is the first of at least two times the Trump campaign is told Russia has "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. Two months later the Russian hacking is publicly revealed.[156]
Papadopoulos meets with Thompson .[20]:487
April 27:
Trump, Sessions and Jared Kushner greet Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington D.C. This contact is repeatedly omitted from testimony or denied.[251][288][289] Kushner and Sessions knew in advance that the CNI invited Kislyak to the event.[28]:106 Mueller's team did not find any evidence that Trump or Sessions conversed with Kislyak after Trump's speech.[28]:107 Afterward, Kislyak reports the conversation with Sessions to Moscow.[290] Kushner is the first to publicly admit the Kislyak meeting took place in his prepared statement for Senate investigators on July 24, 2017.[291] Also in attendance are the ambassadors from Italy and Singapore, who are major players in the upcoming sale of stakes in Rosneft.[2]:124
Trump speaks[292] at the Mayflower Hotel at the invitation of The National Interest, the magazine of the CNI.[139] He delivers a speech that calls for improved relations between the US and Russia. The speech was edited by Papadopoulos,[246][28]:98 though his edits were largely rejected by Stephen Miller,[20]:491 and crafted with the assistance of Simes[2]:126 and Richard Burt.[293] Burt is a board member of the CNI and a lobbyist for Gazprom.[294] Papadopoulos brings the speech to the attention of Mifsud and Polonskaya, and tells Timofeev that it should be considered "the signal to meet".[246] Simes later moves to Moscow.[295]
Papadopolous and Timofeev speak over Skype. Papadopoulos finds Timofeev's formal tone to be "strange" and hears static noises suggesting the call is being recorded.[20]:485
Papadopoulos emails Stephen Miller that he has "some interesting messages coming in from Moscow about a trip when the time is right."[254]
Papadopoulos tells Lewandowski via email that he has "been receiving a lot of calls over the last month about Putin wanting to host [Trump] and the team when the time is right."[243][28]:89
Graff sends Foresman an apology and forwards his March 31 and April 26 emails to Lewandowski.[28]:80
Chalupa discusses her Manafort research with Ukrainian investigative journalists at an event organized by the Open World Leadership Center at the Library of Congress.[255][296]
Late April: The DNC's IT department notices suspicious computer activity. Within 24 hours, the DNC contacts the FBI, and hires a private cybersecurity firm, CrowdStrike, to investigate.[297]
April 29: DNC staffer Rachel Palermo notifies her colleagues by email that their Factivists blog has been "compromised" and includes the new password.[298][299]
April 30: Foresman sends Graff another email reminding her of his meeting requests on March 31 and April 26. He suggests an alternative meeting with Trump Jr. or Eric Trump so that he can tell them information that "should be conveyed to [the candidate] personally or [to] someone [the candidate] absolutely trusts".[28]:80
May 2016[edit]
May:
CrowdStrike determines that sophisticated adversaries—denominated Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear—are responsible for the DNC hack. Fancy Bear, in particular, is suspected of affiliation with Russia's Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU).[300]
Erickson contacts Trump campaign advisor Rick Dearborn. In an email headed "Kremlin Connection", Erickson seeks the advice of Dearborn and Sessions about how to arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin. Erickson suggests making contact at the NRA's annual convention in Kentucky. The communication refers to Torshin, who is under instructions to contact the Trump campaign.[301][302]
At Butina's urging, Christian activist Rick Clay emails Dearborn with the subject "Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite"[303] offering a meeting between Trump and Torshin.[304] Dearborn, then Sessions's Chief of Staff, sends an email mentioning a person from West Virginia seeking to connect Trump campaign members with Putin. Dearborn appears "skeptical" of the meeting request.[305] Jared Kushner rejects the request. Torshin and Trump Jr. later meet and speak at the NRA convention.[304]
Papadopoulos travels to Greece and meets with Greece's president Prokopios Pavlopoulos, defense minister Panos Kammenos, foreign minister Nikos Kotzias, and a former prime minister. Putin makes an official visit to Athens during Papadopoulos's trip.[306]
Michael Caputo arranges a meeting in Miami with Stone, Florida-based Russian Henry Oknyansky (a.k.a. "Henry Greenberg"), and Ukrainian Alexei Rasin.[28]:61[307] Rasin claims to have evidence showing Clinton was involved in laundering hundreds of thousands of dollars through Rasin's companies.[28]:61 Stone turns down the offer, telling them that Trump won't pay for opposition research.[28]:61[307] In June 2018, after many repeated denials, Stone finally admits to knowingly meeting with a Russian national in 2016 when asked about this meeting by The Washington Post.[307] In May 2018, Caputo tells Mueller's team that he did not attend the meeting, did not know what Oknyansky was offering, and did not know payment was asked for until Stone told him later.[28]:61 In July 2018, Oknyansky tells Mueller's team that Rasin was motivated by money, and that Caputo attended the meeting.[28]:61 According to the Mueller Report, Mueller's team is unable to find any evidence that Clinton ever did any business with Rasin.[28]:61
A new American shell company, "Silver Valley Consulting", is set up by Russian-born accountant Ilya Bykov for Aras Agalarov.[308]
Patten and Kilimnik write a letter for Lyovochkin to use in lobbying a "high-ranking member" of the State Department. In August 2018, Patten pleads guilty to failing to register as a foreign agent for this work.[137]
The IRA releases a Google Chrome plugin called FaceMusic that ostensibly allows users to listen to free music while browsing Facebook, but also participates in a botnet.[309]
May 2:
A second rally is held in Buffalo, New York, protesting the death of India Cummings. Like the April 4 rally, the event is heavily promoted by the IRA's Blacktivist Facebook account, including attempted outreach to local activists.[281]
Graff forwards Foresman's April 30 email to Stephen Miller.[28]:80
May 4:
Timofeev emails Papadopoulos that his colleagues from the ministry "are open for cooperation."[156] Papadopoulos forwards the email to Lewandowski and asks whether this is "something we want to move forward with."[28]:89
Manafort meets with Kilimnik.[156]
Starting May 4,[310] and continuing through September, a pair of servers owned by Alfa-Bank look up the Trump Organization's mail1.trump-email.com domain on a server housed by Listrak and administered by Cendyn more than 2,000 times. Alfa-Bank performed the most lookups during this period, followed by Spectrum Health, and then Heartland Payment Systems with 76 lookups; beyond that no other visible entity made more than two.[311]
Trump becomes the only remaining candidate for the Republican presidential nomination when John Kasich withdraws.[312]
Sater texts Cohen asking when he will be traveling to Moscow. He writes that he set expectations in Russia that it would probably be after the convention. Cohen responds that he expects to travel before the convention, and that Trump will travel after he becomes the nominee.[28]:77[233][181]
May 5:
Papadopoulos forwards Timofeev's email to Clovis,[156][28]:89 who replies, "[t]here are legal issues we need to mitigate, meeting with foreign officials as a private citizen."[243]
Sater texts Cohen that Peskov would like to invite him to the St. Petersburg Forum June 16–19 and possibly meet Putin or Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. He continues, "He said anything you want to discuss including dates and subjects are on the table to discuss."[28]:77[233][181]
May 6:
Sater texts Cohen to confirm his travel to Moscow around June 16–19. Cohen replies, "[w]orks for me."[28]:77
Papadopoulos meets with Thompson.[20]:487
May 7: Kilimnik and Manafort meet for breakfast in New York City. According to Manafort, they discuss events in Ukraine, and Manafort gives Kilimnik a briefing on the Trump campaign with the expectation that Kilimnik will repeat the information to people in Ukraine and elsewhere. After the meeting, Manafort instructs Gates to begin passing internal campaign polling data and other updates to Kilimnik to share with Ukrainian oligarchs. Gates periodically sends the data using WhatsApp.[28]:136–137
May 8: Timofeev proposes connecting Papadopoulos with another Russian official.[156]
May 9: Thompson thanks Papadopoulos for meeting her the previous Friday, and they arrange for Papadopoulos to meet with her boss, Australian High Commissioner to London Alexander Downer, at the Kensington Wine Rooms in London.[20]:487–488
May 10:
Dearborn receives an email about arranging a back-channel meeting between Trump and Putin with the subject line "Kremlin Connection." It is sent from a conservative operative who says Russia wants to use the NRA's convention to make "first contact."[156]
During their scheduled meeting at the Kensington Wine Rooms followed by the Waterway Pub, Papadopoulos drinks a lot and tells Downer and Thompson that the Russians have politically damaging material on Clinton. Later, Papadopoulos gives investigators conflicting accounts of how much alcohol Downer consumed. After WikiLeaks releases the DNC emails two months later, Australian officials pass this information to American officials, causing the FBI to open a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign.[156][20]:487–490 See Crossfire Hurricane (FBI investigation).
May 11: Downer informs Canberra of his interactions with Papadopoulos.[20]:487–488
May 14: Papadopoulos tells Lewandowski the Russians are interested in hosting Trump.[156]
May 15: David Klein, a distant relative of Trump Organization lawyer Jason Greenblatt, emails Clovis about a possible campaign meeting with Chief Rabbi of Russia Berel Lazar. Klein writes that he contacted Lazar in February about a possible meeting between Trump and Putin and that Lazar was "a very close confidante of Putin." Later Klein and Greenblatt meet with Lazar at Trump Tower.[28]:90
May 16:
Page floats with Clovis, Gordon, and Phares the idea of Trump going to Russia in his place to give the commencement speech at the New Economic School "to raise the temperature a little bit."[156][28]:99
Dearborn receives a similar second proposal, which he forwards to Kushner, Manafort and Rick Gates. Both efforts (to arrange a back-channel meeting between Trump and Putin) appear to involve Alexander Torshin, who was instructed to make contact with the Trump campaign.[156] Kushner rebuffs the proposal.[156]
May 19:
Manafort becomes Trump's campaign chairman and chief strategist.[313] Gates is appointed deputy campaign chairman.[28]:134
Mother Jones reports that before Trump launched his campaign in 2015, Lewandowski and other political advisors suggested to Trump that they follow standard practice and hire someone to perform opposition research on him. Trump refused.[314]
May 19–22: The NRA annual conference is held in Louisville, Kentucky. Trump and Trump Jr. attend.[315][316][317][318] Brownell introduces Trump Jr. to Torshin and Butina during a brief encounter at an NRA fundraiser dinner on May 21.[156][197]:69–71 The next day, an attendee of the dinner warns Trump Jr. to stay away from Butina.[197]:71
May 21:
Papadopoulos forwards Timofeev's May 4 email to Manafort stressing the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA)'s desire to meet with Trump, writing, "Russia has been eager to meet Mr. Trump for quite sometime and have been reaching out to me to discuss."[28]:89–90 Manafort shoots down the idea in an email to Rick Gates,[161][243] with a note: "Let[']s discuss. We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the Campaign so as not to send any signal."[156][28]:90
Two competing rallies are held in Houston to alternately protest against and defend the recently opened Library of Islamic Knowledge at the Islamic Da'wah Center. The "Stop Islamization of Texas" rally is organized by the Facebook group "Heart of Texas". The Facebook posting for the event encourages participants to bring guns. A spokesman for the group converses with the Houston Press via email but declines to give a name. The other rally, "Save Islamic Knowledge", is organized by the Facebook group "United Muslims of America" for the same time and location. Both Facebook groups are later revealed to be IRA accounts.[319][320] The entire operation cost $200 and was entirely organized from St. Petersburg.[123]:47
May 22: Politico reports on Trump's past associations and dealings with the American Mafia and other criminal figures, including Sater.[321][181]
May 23: Sessions attends the CNI's Distinguished Service Award dinner at the Washington, D.C., Four Seasons Hotel. Kislyak is a confirmed guest with a reserved seat next to Sessions. In 2018, Sessions tells Mueller's team that he doesn't remember Kislyak being there, and other participants interviewed by Mueller's team disagree with each other about whether Kislyak was present.[28]:107
May 25:
The Westboro Baptist Church holds its annual protest of Lawrence High School graduation ceremonies in Lawrence, Kansas. The "LGBT United" Facebook group organizes counterprotesters to confront the Westboro protest, including by placing an ad on Facebook and contacting local people. About a dozen people show up. Lawrence High School students do not participate because they are "skeptical" of the counterprotest organizers. LGBT United is a Russian operatives account that appears to have been created specifically for this event.[322]
Thousands of DNC emails are stolen.[156]
May 26: The Associated Press reports that Trump has secured enough delegates to become the presumptive Republican nominee.[164]
May 27: At a rally, Trump calls Putin "a strong leader."[156]
May 27–28: Putin makes an official visit to Greece and meets with government leaders. His visit overlaps with a trip to Greece by Papadopoulos.[306][323]
May 29: The IRA hires an American to pose in front of the White House holding a sign that says, "Happy 55th Birthday, Dear Boss." "Boss" is a reference to Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin.[114][115]
May 30: The IRA creates the @march_for_trump Twitter account to promote IRA-organized rallies in support of the Trump campaign.[28]:27
June 2016[edit]
June:
Around this time, the conspirators charged in the July 2018 indictment stage and release tens of thousands of stolen emails and documents using fictitious online personas, including "DCLeaks" and "Guccifer 2.0".[324]
The FBI sends a warning to states about "bad actors" probing state voter-registration databases and systems to seek vulnerabilities; investigators believe Russia is responsible.[325]
Fusion GPS hires Steele to research Trump's activities in Russia. A resultant 35-page document, later known as the Trump–Russia dossier or Steele dossier, is published on January 10, 2017, by BuzzFeed News.[326]
A former GRU officer arranges for Felix Sater and Michael Cohen to attend the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, which Putin regularly attends. Sater wants to use the trip to push forward the Moscow Trump Tower deal. Cohen cancels at the last minute. Sater does not attend the forum.[327]
Early June:
At a closed-door gathering of foreign policy experts visiting with the Prime Minister of India, Page hails Putin as stronger and more reliable than Obama and touts the positive effect a Trump presidency would have on U.S.–Russia relations.[328]
Before traveling to New York to translate at the June 9 Trump Tower meeting, Kaveladze contacts Roman Beniaminov, a close friend and aide[20]:273 of Emin Agalarov, to find out why Kushner, Manafort, and Trump Jr. were invited to a meeting ostensibly about the Magnitsky Act. Beniaminov tells Kaveladze that he heard Goldstone and Agalarov discuss "dirt" on Clinton. In November 2017, Kaveladze's lawyer tells The Daily Beast that Beniaminov was Kaveladze's only source of information about the meeting.[329]
June 1:
Papadopoulos emails Lewandowski asking whether he wants to have a call about a Russia visit and whether "we were following up with it."[28]:90 Lewandowski refers him to Clovis.[156][28]:90 Papadopoulos emails Clovis about more interest from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to set up a Trump meeting in Russia.[156][28]:90 He writes, "I have the Russian MFA asking me if Mr. Trump is interested in visiting Russia at some point."[330][331] He continues that he "[w]anted to pass this info along to you for you to decide what's best to do with it and what message I should send (or to ignore)."[28]:90
The IRA plans a Manhattan rally called "March for Trump" and buys Facebook ads promoting the event.[114][115]
June 3:
Aras Agalarov is told that the Russian government wants to give the Trump campaign damaging information about Clinton.[156]
Goldstone emails Trump Jr. offering, on behalf of Emin Agalarov, to meet an alleged Russian government official who "would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father", as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." Trump Jr. responded 17 minutes later:[332][333] "If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer," and schedules the meeting. Goldstone also offers to relay the information to Trump through his assistant.[334] This is the second time a Trump campaign official was told of "dirt" on Clinton.[156]
$3.3 million began moving between Aras Agalarov and Kaveladze, a longtime Agalarov employee once investigated for money laundering.[332]
June 4: The IRA email account allforusa@yahoo.com sends news releases about the "March for Trump" rally to New York City media outlets.[114][115]
June 5: The IRA contacts a Trump campaign volunteer to provide signs for the "March for Trump" rally.[114][115]
June 6:
Hillary Clinton becomes the presumptive Democratic nominee.
Trump Jr. calls two blocked numbers at Trump Tower.[335] According to CNN, the two people Trump Jr. called were NASCAR CEO Brian France and businessman Howard Lorber.[336]
At a primary night rally in New York, Trump promises a speech discussing information about Clinton. Trump says "I am going to give a major speech on probably Monday of next week [June 13], and we are going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons".[337]
Goldstone follows up with Trump Jr. about when Jr. can "talk with Emin by phone about this Hillary info." Trump Jr. calls Emin.[156] Phone records show Trump Jr. called a blocked number before and after calls to Emin.[156]
According to Gates, Trump Jr. informs the participants in a regular senior campaign staff meeting that he has a lead on damaging information about the Clinton Foundation. Gates is under the impression that the information is coming from a group in Kyrgyzstan. The other meeting participants include Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Kushner, Manafort, and Hicks. Manafort, according to Gates, warns the group to be careful. In April 2018, Kushner tells Mueller's team that he doesn't remember the information being discussed before the June 9 meeting.[28]:115
June 6–7: Trump Jr. and Emin Agalarov discuss setting up their June 9 meeting in three phone calls.[338]
June 8: The DCLeaks website comes online.[253] The Russian-controlled fake American personas "Melvin Redick", "Alice Donovan", and "Katherine Fulton" begin promoting the site on Facebook.[339]
June 9:
Veselnitskaya, Akhmetshin, Kaveladze, and Anatoli Samochornov meet for lunch and discuss what to say at the upcoming Trump Tower meeting.[28]:116–117
Kushner, Manafort and Trump Jr. meet at Trump Tower with Goldstone, Veselnitskaya,[340] Akhmetshin,[341] Kaveladze,[342] and translator Samochornov.[343][344] Veselnitskaya is best known for lobbying against the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers.[345] Trump Jr. later says that he asked Veselnitskaya for damaging information about the Clinton Foundation and that she had none.[346] Samochornov, Kaveladze, and Akhmetshin later tell the Senate Judiciary Committee that Trump Jr. told Veselnitskaya to come back after they won the election.[347][344] The meeting lasts approximately 20 minutes, and Manafort takes notes on his phone.[28]:117–118 Trump Jr. calls a blocked number before (June 6) and after the meeting. Trump spends the day at Trump Tower, where the private residence has a blocked number, and holds no public events.[335]
That night, Veselnitskaya, Simpson, Akhmetshin, and others attend a dinner in New York City organized by a lawyer at BakerHostetler. BakerHostetler hired Simpson in 2015 to work on the Prevezon case with Veselnitskaya. Later, Simpson tells the Senate Intelligence Committee that he was unaware of the Trump Tower meeting until it became public in 2017.[20]:889
June 9–14: Sater repeatedly tries to get Cohen to confirm his trip to Russia.[181]
June 11–12: The DNC expels Russian hackers from its servers. Some of the hackers had been accessing the DNC network for over a year.[348]
June 12: On ITV, Assange tells Robert Peston on his television show Peston on Sunday that emails related to Clinton are "pending publication" and says, "WikiLeaks has a very good year ahead."[349][350][28]:52
June 12 – July 22: According to Gates, prior to Assange's announcement, Stone tells him that something "big" related to leaked information is coming soon, and repeats the claim multiple times to Gates and Manafort through July 22.[28]:52
June 14:
The DNC publicly alleges that they have been hacked by Russian state-backed hackers.[349][348] Following this news, a small group of politically diverse prominent computer scientists scattered across the US, including a member Dexter Filkins calls "Max" in his October 2018 New Yorker article, begin combing the Domain Name System (DNS).[311]
Sater meets Cohen in the Trump Tower lobby. Cohen tells him he will not be traveling to Russia (two days before planned departure).[181][351] Cohen decided not to go because he didn't receive a formal invitation from Peskov.[60]:137
The GRU uses its @dcleaks_ persona to reach out to WikiLeaks and offer to coordinate the release of sensitive information about Clinton, including financial documents.[352][28]:45
GRU Unit 74455 (Fancy Bear) creates the Guccifer 2.0 persona and a WordPress blog for disseminating stolen DNC material.[353]
Fancy Bear registers the domain name ActBlues.com for a website that is nearly identical to the DCCC's donation page on ActBlue.com.[354]
Mid June:
Shortly after the DNC announced that it had been hacked, the RNC informs the FBI that some Republican campaign email accounts hosted by Smartech have been hacked. Compromised accounts include the campaign committees of "Senator John McCain, Senator Lindsey Graham, [...] Representative Robert Hurt[,] [s]everal state GOP organizations, Republican PACs, and campaign consultants." Approximately 300 emails from May through October 2015 are eventually posted on DCLeaks.com.[355][28]:41
Someone breaks into and ransacks two of Chalupa's cars, but valuables and cash are left in the vehicles. A few days later, a woman "wearing white flowers in her hair" tries to break into Chalupa's home. Aide to the Ukrainian ambassador Oksana Shulyar tells her the incidents are similar to Russian intimidation campaigns against foreigners.[255]
June 15:
"Guccifer 2.0" (GRU) claims credit for the DNC hacking and posts some of the stolen material to a website. CrowdStrike stands by its "findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network in May 2016."[356]
Gawker publishes an opposition research document on Trump that was stolen from the DNC. "Guccifer 2.0" sent the file to Gawker.[253][357]
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and House Speaker Paul Ryan meet separately with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman at the Capitol. Groysman describes to them how the Kremlin is financing populist politicians in Eastern Europe to damage democratic institutions. McCarthy and Ryan have a private meeting afterwards with GOP leaders that is secretly recorded. Toward the end of their conversation, after laughing at the DNC hacking, McCarthy says, "there's two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump...[laughter]...swear to God." Ryan then tells everyone to keep this conversation secret. A transcript of the recording becomes public a year later.[358][359]
June 16: Cassandra Ford of Defiance, Ohio, renames her Twitter account "@Guccifer2"; after hearing about Guccifer 2.0 from her Twitter friends. A few days later, the GRU registers "@Guccifer_2"; for the Guccifer 2.0 persona because @Guccifer2 was taken.[353]
June 17: ThreatConnect publishes its analysis of the CrowdStrike report on the DNC hack. The new report[360] provides additional data implicating Fancy Bear.[298]
Late June: According to Gates, Trump and Stone discuss by phone the recent release of stolen DNC material while Trump and Gates are being driven from Trump Tower to La Guardia airport. After the call, Trump tells Gates that there will be more releases of damaging information.[361][28]:54
June 19:
After communicating with the MFA via email and Skype, Papadopoulos tells Lewandowski by email that the MFA is interested in meeting with a "campaign rep" if Trump can't meet with them. Papadopoulos offers to go in an unofficial capacity.[330][331][28]:90
Page again requests permission from the campaign to speak at the New Economic School commencement in Moscow, and reiterates that the school "would love to have Mr. Trump speak at this annual celebration." Lewandowski responds that Page can attend in his personal capacity but "Mr. Trump will not be able to attend."[28]:99
Assange asks the London Ecuadorian Embassy for a faster Internet connection. Embassy staff help Assange install new equipment.[362]
June 20:
Aras Agalarov wires more than $19.5 million to his account at a bank in New York.[347]
Trump fires Lewandowski.[363] Manafort becomes campaign manager.[364]
June 22: WikiLeaks reaches out to "Guccifer 2.0" via Twitter. They ask "Guccifer 2.0" to send them material because it will have a bigger impact if they publish it. They also specifically ask for material on Clinton they can publish before the convention.[253]
June 23:
The United Kingdom passes a referendum to leave the European Union.[365]
The IRA persona "Matt Skiber" contacts an American to recruit for the "March for Trump" rally.[114][115]
Russian-American Simon Kukes donates $100,000 to the Trump Victory fund. In 2017, his 2016 political donations become a subject of the Mueller investigation.[245]
GRU hackers successfully use an SQL injection attack to breach servers belonging to the Illinois State Board of Elections and steal voter registration data.[366][367][28]:50
June 24: The IRA group "United Muslims of America" buys Facebook ads for the "Support Hillary, Save American Muslims" rally.[114][115]
June 25:
The IRA's "March for Trump" rally occurs.[114][115]
The IRA Facebook group LGBT United organizes a candlelight vigil for the Pulse nightclub shooting victims in Orlando, Florida.[368][369]
June 29: Goldstone emails Trump campaign social media director Dan Scavino about promoting Trump on VKontakte. He says the email is a follow-up to his recent conversation with Trump Jr. and Manafort.[232]
Summer:
IRA employees use the stolen identities of four Americans to open PayPal and bank accounts to act as conduits for funding their activities in the United States.[114][115]
The FBI applies for a FISA warrant to monitor communications of four Trump campaign officials. The FISA Court rejects the application, asking the FBI to narrow its scope.[370] A warrant on Carter Page alone is granted in October 2016.[74]
Lawyer and Trump campaign foreign policy advisor Joseph E. Schmitz receives a cache of emails from a client that is purported to be Clinton's deleted 30,000 emails, acquired from a dark web forum. Schmitz meets with officials at the FBI, the State Department, and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) in an effort to get the emails reviewed. The State Department and ICIG decline to review the emails. Schmitz's efforts are independent of the investigation by Peter Smith's team.[371]

Now ^that, is evidence. Go ahead, dig in or run away again.

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:57 AM

REAVERFAN


Troll stomped. ^



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Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:57 AM

REAVERFAN


No, it's not a cult...





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Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:22 PM

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I don't care how much bullshit you post CC, it's still bullshit.

Quote:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/obama-failed-close-guantanamo
It became understood fairly soon into the administration that closing Guantanamo meant moving some of the detainees there to the United States, and that really turned the tide. ... there was an understanding, I think, that the original idea was not to bring detainees to the United States.

So, Obama changed his mind about closing GITMO.
Quote:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/guantanamo-bay-closi
ng-why-has-obama-failed-a7194241.html
But it’s possible he hasn’t given up on the notion just yet.

Then, apparently Obama gave up on the idea of closing GITMO.
Which I know because
Quote:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-guantanamo_n_2618503 The truth is that nobody is really in a hurry to close Guantanamo. Last month, the Obama administration shuttered the State Department office tasked with planning Guantanamo’s closure.
and
Quote:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/01/obama-closin
g-guantanamo-timeline/318980
/ ... the office responsible for closing the prison has itself been closed.

and
Quote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/us/politics/state-dept-closes-offic
e-working-on-closing-guantanamo-prison.html
The New York Times's Charlie Savage reports that Daniel Fried—the State Department's the special envoy for closing the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba—has been reassigned and will not be replaced.

But even though Obama abandoned the idea of closing GITMO, he talked it up in speeches to the very end, for example 3 years later during his final SOTU.
Quote:

https://time.com/4179278/state-of-the-union-guantanamo-bay-president-o
bama
/ In his final State of the Union address to Congress on Tuesday, President Obama renewed his call to close the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba ...

and
Quote:

Last SOTU: January 13, 2016 https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/01/12/remar
ks-president-barack-obama-%E2%80%93-prepared-delivery-state-union-address
I will keep working to shut down the prison at Guantanamo. (Applause.) It is expensive, it is unnecessary, and it only serves as a recruitment brochure for our enemies. (Applesauce.) There’s a better way. (Applause.)

Yep, right up to his very last SOTU Obama was still promising, but then, he didn't close GITMO. Perhaps that was because "... others have raised concerns that the prisoners would be additional legal rights if transferred to the U.S." DARN THOSE PESKY LEGAL RIGHTS! (Ahem! Wasn't that the whole reason for closing GITMO in the first place - to restore the rule of law and international torture prohibitions to the US's GWOT?)
That was despite the fact that ...
Quote:

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/19/510448989/trump-inherits-guantanamos-re
maining-detainees
"Rather than being the worst of the worst, there are some who have the worst luck because they were from Yemen — because they were from a country that they cannot go back to," says Cliff Sloan.

... many people were still being held in GITMO not because they were such bad dudes, but for the stupidest of reasons.

Still, in his last year, years after he closed down the office whose task was to shutter GITMO, after giving his last SOTU where he said he was still trying to close the prison, did he do it by, say, executive order?
Quote:

https://time.com/4179278/state-of-the-union-guantanamo-bay-president-o
bama
/ ... and he might use his executive authority to do so if necessary before his term ends.





That would be a 'no'.

The takeaway - Obama was saying he was going to close GITMO 3 years AFTER he dismantled the office tasked with doing that.

Can you say LIE?

Sure you can.



As for your list of so-called Russian "contacts" with Trump, I literally just scrolled to one one at random and it was Buttina, who never contacted Trump in any way. WHAT A CROCK you've swallowed, eh? Well, I'm sure you're used to it and no longer even gag.

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 1:51 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Still, in his last year, years after he closed down the office whose task was to shutter GITMO, after giving his last SOTU where he said he was still trying to close the prison, did he do it by, say, executive order?
Quote:

https://time.com/4179278/state-of-the-union-guantanamo-bay-president-o
bama
/ ... and he might use his executive authority to do so if necessary before his term ends.



That would be a 'no'.

The takeaway - Obama was saying he was going to close GITMO 3 years AFTER he dismantled the office tasked with doing that.

Can you say LIE?

Sure you can.



I didn't lie, fuknut, and neither did Obama. He found out it was harder than he thought - oh no! Executive order?? You mean like Dump? Just another simpleton who thinks you can just sign a document and every road block and problem will magically disappear. How's that wall coming? So, yep, runaway again.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
As for your list of so-called Russian "contacts" with Trump, I literally just scrolled to one one at random and it was Buttina, who never contacted Trump in any way. WHAT A CROCK you've swallowed, eh? Well, I'm sure you're used to it and no longer even gag.



It's not "contacts" like an address book, you stupid door stop. And this was only part of a larger list of EVIDENCE. And you looked at... one? Hope you didn't hurt your brain. I get it though - There's. Just. So. Much. EVIDENCE!

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:13 PM

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Still, in his last year, years after he closed down the office whose task was to shutter GITMO, after giving his last SOTU where he said he was still trying to close the prison, did he do it by, say, executive order?
Quote:

https://time.com/4179278/state-of-the-union-guantanamo-bay-president-o
bama
/ ... and he might use his executive authority to do so if necessary before his term ends.



That would be a 'no'.

The takeaway - Obama was saying he was going to close GITMO 3 years AFTER he dismantled the office tasked with doing that.

Can you say LIE?

Sure you can.



I didn't lie, fuknut, and neither did Obama. He found out it was harder than he thought - oh no! Executive order?? You mean like Dump? Just another simpleton who thinks you can just sign a document and every road block and problem will magically disappear. How's that wall coming? So, yep, runaway again.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
As for your list of so-called Russian "contacts" with Trump, I literally just scrolled to one one at random and it was Buttina, who never contacted Trump in any way. WHAT A CROCK you've swallowed, eh? Well, I'm sure you're used to it and no longer even gag.



It's not "contacts" like an address book, you stupid door stop. And this was only part of a larger list of EVIDENCE. And you looked at... one? Hope you didn't hurt your brain. I get it though - There's. Just. So. Much. EVIDENCE!



WHICH SOMEHOW NEVER MADE IT INTO MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION???

BALONEY.

JUST MORE DISHONEST POSTING FROM THE MC OF LIES HIMSELF.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 2:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:




And speaking of LITERAL projection ...

I mean, you LITERALLY had to put words into people's mouths. You're just like WISHY: You see someone that you disagree with and you IMAGINE that they're some horde of soul-ravening zombies who're coming to get you!!

Dood, seriously: Dial down the paranoia. You've pegged the meter.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

As for your list of so-called Russian "contacts" with Trump, I literally just scrolled to [one] one at random and it was Buttina, who never contacted Trump in any way. WHAT A CROCK you've swallowed, eh? Well, I'm sure you're used to it and no longer even gag.
Quote:

It's not "contacts" like an address book, you stupid door stop. And this was only part of a larger list of EVIDENCE. And you looked at... one? Hope you didn't hurt your brain. I get it though - There's. Just. So. Much. EVIDENCE!
Quote:

WHICH SOMEHOW NEVER MADE IT INTO MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION???

BALONEY.

JUST MORE DISHONEST POSTING FROM THE MC OF LIES HIMSELF.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Sigh ... If only Mueller had been smart enough to google Trump Russia contacts wiki ... He could have saved a metric crap-ton of government money and written a report maybe ... what ... 7 pages long, with references and title page? And by lumping all the names of everyone who talked with anyone ever, he would have been sure to not miss any names at all. So even if the list included Robert K. Mueller, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, at least it would have been guaranteed complete.

Mission accomplished.


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Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

None of it matters anymore.

The Establishment wants GWB II in office, the Establishment gets GWB II in office.


Voting doesn't mean anything anymore. They're going to do whatever they want to.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:44 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

None of it matters anymore.

Voting doesn't mean anything anymore. They're going to do whatever they want to.

lol is right, 6ix: Trump is all-in on an 1870s strategy of nullifying entire cities’ worth of Black votes.

The latest developments in the American democratic process are not really democratic, per se:

• The two Republican members of the four-member Wayne County, Michigan vote-canvassing board who initially refused to certify Detroit’s results only to change their minds at the end of an hours-long meeting and vote to certify them … have declared that they have re-changed their minds and don’t think the results should be certified after all. (One of them says Donald Trump spoke to her on the phone after the meeting, though she claims that he did not ask her to disavow her vote for certification.) As far as anyone can tell, however, this “takeback” declaration has no legal power.

• The Republican leaders of the Michigan state house and senate say they have accepted an invitation to meet with Donald Trump at the White House on Friday, where he is expected to persuade them to override Michigan’s election results and send pro-Trump electors to the electoral college on the reasoning that Detroit’s votes are fraudulent.

• Another attorney named Sidney Powell also spoke at the RNC event and claimed—seriously—that Democrats generated fake votes by using a fraud algorithm, which she said was originally developed by the late Venezuelan leftist Hugo Chavez, on voting machines made by a company called Dominion in Colorado. Dominion does not have any connections to Venezuela. Powell, in a statement the Republican Party later highlighted on its Twitter account, said her goal in seeking to overturn election results is to “reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for freedom.”

There’s historical precedent for what’s happening. There is, namely the “Redemption” period of Southern history, in which terror groups, of which the KKK has what you might call the most prominent legacy brand, set out to undo the results of the Civil War and the 14th and 15th Amendments. They accomplished this by disrupting elections and killing Black citizens in order to suppress their votes and install white governors and legislators, who then passed laws that created spurious legal justifications for the maintenance of whites-only governments and elections. Within a decade or two, this outrageous refusal to follow election rules, the law, or the constitution had produced an entrenched and accepted system of social, political, and legal tyranny.

More at
https://web.archive.org/web/20201120033328/https://slate.com/news-and-
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Sigh ... If only Mueller had been smart enough to google Trump Russia contacts wiki ... He could have saved a metric crap-ton of government money and written a report maybe ... what ... 7 pages long, with references and title page? And by lumping all the names of everyone who talked with anyone ever, he would have been sure to not miss any names at all. So even if the list included Robert K. Mueller, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, at least it would have been guaranteed complete.

Mission accomplished.

The U.S. Senate has thousands of pages about Russian interfering with U.S. elections. If only Mueller could have waited, he could have let the Senate do the job for him. Read the thousands of pages, 1kiki:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-releases-volume
-5-bipartisan-russia-report


A few words from Vol. 5:

I. FINDINGS

The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Parts of this effort are outlined in the Committee’s earlier volumes on election security, social media, the Obama Administration’s response to the threat, and the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA).

The fifth and final volume focuses on the counterintelligence threat, outlining a wide range of Russian efforts to influence the Trump Campaign and the 2016 election. In this volume the Committee lays out its findings in detail by looking at many aspects of the counterintelligence threat posed by the Russian influence operation. For example, the Committee examined Paul Manafort’s connections to Russian influence actors and the FBI’s treatment of reporting produced by Christopher Steele. While the Committee does not describe the final result as a complete picture, this volume provides the most comprehensive description to date of Russia’s activities and the threat they posed. This volume presents this information in topical sections in order to address coherently and in detail the wide variety of Russian actions. The events explained in these sections in many cases overlap, and references in each section will direct the reader to those overlapping parts of the volume. Immediately below is a summary of key findings from several sections.

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