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Friday, November 20, 2020 10:59 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Still, in his last year, years after he closed down the office whose task was to shutter GITMO, after giving his last SOTU where he said he was still trying to close the prison, did he do it by, say, executive order?
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https://time.com/4179278/state-of-the-union-guantanamo-bay-president-o
bama
/ ... and he might use his executive authority to do so if necessary before his term ends.



That would be a 'no'.

The takeaway - Obama was saying he was going to close GITMO 3 years AFTER he dismantled the office tasked with doing that.

Can you say LIE?

Sure you can.



I didn't lie, fuknut, and neither did Obama. He found out it was harder than he thought - oh no! Executive order?? You mean like Dump? Just another simpleton who thinks you can just sign a document and every road block and problem will magically disappear. How's that wall coming? So, yep, runaway again.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
As for your list of so-called Russian "contacts" with Trump, I literally just scrolled to one one at random and it was Buttina, who never contacted Trump in any way. WHAT A CROCK you've swallowed, eh? Well, I'm sure you're used to it and no longer even gag.



It's not "contacts" like an address book, you stupid door stop. And this was only part of a larger list of EVIDENCE. And you looked at... one? Hope you didn't hurt your brain. I get it though - There's. Just. So. Much. EVIDENCE!



WHICH SOMEHOW NEVER MADE IT INTO MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION???

BALONEY.

JUST MORE DISHONEST POSTING FROM THE MC OF LIES HIMSELF.




It's not a lie or dishonest no matter how many times you post that. Did you cross check the list with the Mueller Report? No, of course not. Did you magically read the redacted parts of the report? No, of course not. Did you even try and refute any of the near hundreds of connections between Trump and Russia on that list? No, of course not - because you can't. And that's not even the whole list, just from 2015.

But - take your time, have another look. It'd be fun to see how you spin (lie) your way out of some of those, like: "They never met!" How could you or Kiki possibly know that?

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Friday, November 20, 2020 11:09 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 1KIKI: If only Mueller had been smart enough to google Trump Russia contacts wiki ... He could have saved a metric crap-ton of government money and written a report maybe ... what ... 7 pages long, with references and title page? And by lumping all the names of everyone who talked with anyone ever, he would have been sure to not miss any names at all. So even if the list included Robert K. Mueller, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, at least it would have been guaranteed complete.

Mission accomplished.




How do you know he didn't have the exact same info and list?

But yeah, definitely "mission accomplished."

Just like Jo said:

"I posted it here, the Skeptics Forum, MVS forum, Many timez in Youtube comments, Fasebook many timez. I hav emailed it to my dumass Trump fan frenz. Alwayz with the challenj to disproov just 10.

nothing. crikit chirps. nada. zippo. zero.

Then after a period that I suppoze equalz the limits uv their memory, they woud start up with the 'no collusion' proclimation agen. Over the least few yirz it haz ripend to a full blown dimentia. They scoff at anybody hoo duznt 'know' it wuz a big hoax.


BTW - how you doin' with all the lack of EVIDENCE Trump lawyers show up in court with?

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Friday, November 20, 2020 12:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ooooooh. Big bad RUSSIA!!!

As you may recall, the one Russian company that Mueller indicted demanded its day in court along with the EVIDENCE against it, and Mueller's prosecutors folded their tents and quietly stole away in the night.

Why?

It's super-easy to throw accusations but accusations don't make a case, EVIDENCE does. So either their "evidence" was non-existent, just a bunch of made-up bullshit like Iraqi9-11/terroristtrainingcamp/yellowcake/wmd baloney (Just, yanno, a reminder that governments DO make up shit whole cloth, and the media runs with it for years on end!) or, on balance, exposing the "threat" from these "Russian operations" was too paltry to risk exposing their source and not a real threat at all.

I'm going with Option #1, but either way, this smells like one big giant disinfo campaign.

I guess it's far easier for the DNC, and far safer for the deep state and anti-populists in general, to blame Big Bad Russia for taking out a few ads and sending out a few tweets than to look into their souls and understand that THEY are the problem that led to Trump's election!

But then, if they recognized that, and they TRULY wanted to solve the problem, they would give up their seats of power and great wealth and go back to being ordinary working people ... and, they couldn't have that, could that could they?

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Friday, November 20, 2020 1:19 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ooooooh. Big bad RUSSIA!!!

As you may recall, the one Russian company that Mueller indicted demanded its day in court along with the EVIDENCE against it, and Mueller's prosecutors folded their tents and quietly stole away in the night.

Why?

It's super-easy to throw accusations but accusations don't make a case, EVIDENCE does. So either their "evidence" was non-existent, just a bunch of made-up bullshit like Iraqi9-11/terroristtrainingcamp/yellowcake/wmd baloney (Just, yanno, a reminder that governments DO make up shit whole cloth, and the media runs with it for years on end!) or, on balance, exposing the "threat" from these "Russian operations" was too paltry to risk exposing their source and not a real threat at all.

I'm going with Option #1, but either way, this smells like one big giant disinfo campaign.

I guess it's far easier for the DNC, and far safer for the deep state and anti-populists in general, to blame Big Bad Russia for taking out a few ads and sending out a few tweets than to look into their souls and understand that THEY are the problem that led to Trump's election!

But then, if they recognized that, and they TRULY wanted to solve the problem, they would give up their seats of power and great wealth and go back to being ordinary working people ... and, they couldn't have that, could that could they?

Russia isn't particularly bad. It did what it did for perfectly understandable reasons. But what was bad, and got the Mueller investigation rolling in the first place, was Trump firing whats-his-name, the head of the FBI for investigating Russia. Then Trump went really over the top by threatening to fire everybody in the FBI and Mueller. That was crazy. Three years later, the Senate found Russia interfering in the election, as did Mueller, but Trump, who has got to be crazy, keeps saying they found nothing. And Trump is having his revenge on Biden because the Russians were investigated. That is Trump being double or triple crazy:

Trump told an ally that he knows he lost, but that he is delaying the transition process and is aggressively trying to sow doubt about the election results in order to get back at Democrats for questioning the legitimacy of his own election in 2016, especially with the Russia investigation, a source familiar with the President's thinking told CNN on Thursday.
www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/trump-democrats-election/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 20, 2020 3:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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SIGNYM:
Ooooooh. Big bad RUSSIA!!!

As you may recall, the one Russian company that Mueller indicted demanded its day in court along with the EVIDENCE against it, and Mueller's prosecutors folded their tents and quietly stole away in the night.

Why?

It's super-easy to throw accusations but accusations don't make a case, EVIDENCE does. So either their "evidence" was non-existent, just a bunch of made-up bullshit like Iraqi9-11/terroristtrainingcamp/yellowcake/wmd baloney (Just, yanno, a reminder that governments DO make up shit whole cloth, and the media runs with it for years on end!) or, on balance, exposing the "threat" from these "Russian operations" was too paltry to risk exposing their source and not a real threat at all.

I'm going with Option #1, but either way, this smells like one big giant disinfo campaign.

I guess it's far easier for the DNC, and far safer for the deep state and anti-populists in general, to blame Big Bad Russia for taking out a few ads and sending out a few tweets than to look into their souls and understand that THEY are the problem that led to Trump's election!

But then, if they recognized that, and they TRULY wanted to solve the problem, they would give up their seats of power and great wealth and go back to being ordinary working people ... and, they couldn't have that, could that could they?
SECOND Russia isn't particularly bad. It did what it did for perfectly understandable reasons. But what was bad, and got the Mueller investigation rolling in the first place, was Trump firing whats-his-name, the head of the FBI for investigating Russia.


Baloney.


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Friday, November 20, 2020 4:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



You sure DID lie, CC, and then lie about lying, and lie about lying about lying!

I can't help it that Obama lied (PROOF posted above!) and you lied about that!


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Friday, November 20, 2020 5:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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I hav emailed it (the list) to my dumass Trump fan frenz. Alwayz with the challenj to disproov just 10.


Now according to JO - AND YOU, CC - not just some of the people on the wiki list but ALL of the people on the wiki list played an active role in facilitating Trump colluding with Russia.

DISPROVING 10? Easy peasy. Just off the top I found roughly 50. I even highlighted some of the more easily recognized names. But the most completely laughable inclusion was Richard Nixon - yes - THE Richard Nixon, not some accidental namesake. Nixon, according to you all, came all the way back from death to help Trump collude with Russia. And after that, Barrack Obama. And the most ironic was Robert Mueller. The second most ironic I'd give to Hillary Clinton.

Greg Andres https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Andres
Joe Biden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden
John R. Bolton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton
John O. Brennan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan
Maria Butina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina
James Clapper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clapper
Hillary Clinton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
Dan Coats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Coats
James B. Comey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey
Gregory Craig https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Craig
Annie Donaldson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Donaldson
Alexander Downer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Downer
Michael Dreeben https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dreeben
T. S. Ellis III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._S._Ellis_III
Nigel Farage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage
Dianne Feinstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein
Dabney L. Friedrich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabney_L._Friedrich
John Gleeson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gleeson_(judge)
Andrew D. Goldstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_D._Goldstein
Chuck Grassley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Grassley
Beryl A. Howell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_A._Howell
Boris Johnson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson
Richard J. Leon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Leon
Andrew McCabe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_McCabe
Amit Mehta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amit_Mehta
Robert S. Mueller III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
Jerrold Nadler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrold_Nadler
Paul M. Nakasone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_M._Nakasone
Barack Obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
Bruce Ohr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ohr
Sarah Palin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
Edgardo Ramos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgardo_Ramos
Jeannie Rhee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeannie_Rhee
Susan Rice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice
Rod Rosenstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Rosenstein
Bernie Sanders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
Adam B. Schiff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_B._Schiff
Karen Schreier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Schreier
Gordon Sondland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Sondland
Christopher Steele https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Steele
Jill Stein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein
Richard Nixon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon
Peter Strzok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Strzok
Emmet G. Sullivan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_G._Sullivan
Cyrus Vance Jr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Vance_Jr.
Kurt Volker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Volker
Andrew Weissmann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Weissmann
Christopher A. Wray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_A._Wray



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Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I love it...

Scientologists calling Christians a cult.

That is what you morons sound like right now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 1:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You know how THUGR unconsciously ironically posts that stupid people don't know that they're stupid?

Apparently cultists dont know they're in a cult.

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 5:33 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SignyM:
You know how THUGR unconsciously ironically posts that stupid people don't know that they're stupid?

Apparently cultists dont know they're in a cult.




Thats true.

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 5:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Originally posted by captaincrunch:


Thats true.


That's ironic.



When Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Saturday, November 21, 2020 5:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



You know what the biggest test for religious belief is? Continuing to 'believe' IN SPITE OF all the facts that show otherwise.



When Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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