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So..5 people are dead as a result of Chumps stunts to avoid prosecution and litigations

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Monday, January 11, 2021 9:00 AM

REAVERFAN


Dave Rubin: I'm Not Saying It Was Antifa...But It Was Antifa


No, Dave. There wasn't an Antifa person within 10 miles of there. It was pure trumptard terrorists.



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Monday, January 11, 2021 9:08 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump was "delighted" and "excited" by capitol riots.






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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 3:01 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:


Yes it has. I duck in and out but don’t find much of interest these days




AMEN TA THAT.





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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 3:05 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Or start a thread of your own. I'm sure there's a lot of interesting things going on over there.




Translation: WE NEED MORE DESTRACTION THREADS, STAT.
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT ORANGE WANKER MAKING THE USEFUL IDIOTS DANCE




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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 5:38 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Yes it has. I duck in and out but don’t find much of interest these days



Hi Magons - congrats on your civilized society! Seriously - you guys came together and worked with each other and set the gold standard for how to defeat the virus and shut down the lock down.

Covid deaths country wide:

Aus: 909

US: 385,249

^Says it all.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 11:13 AM

REAVERFAN

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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 11:59 AM

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2 Capitol cops suspended.






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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:09 PM

THG


Texas officials worry Trump's trip could turn violent

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-officials-worry-trump-s-trip-c
ould-turn-violent/ar-BB1cH8Fy?ocid=msedgntp


This is no way to run a country.

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 6:46 AM

REAVERFAN


After riot, major corporations suspend donations to the Republican Attorneys General Association
https://popular.info/p/after-riot-major-corporations-suspend?token=eyJ
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The violent riot at the United States Capitol last week did not magically appear. First, millions of people had to be whipped into a frenzy over bogus charges of voter fraud. Then, a critical mass of them had to be directed to the Capitol building at the same time.

The Republican Attorneys General Association (RAGA) was involved in both activities. First, both the organization itself and the majority of its members pushed baseless allegations of voter fraud. Then, RAGA's self-described "policy arm," the Rule of Law Defense Fund (RLDF), sent a robo-call driving people to participate in the "March to Save America."

In response to inquiries from Popular Information, three major corporate donors — Facebook, Lyft, and DoorDash — are suspending their contributions to RAGA. The University of Phoenix, which donated over $50,000 to RAGA in 2020, is demanding its money back. And numerous other companies tell Popular Information that they are reevaluating their support for the organization.

The robo-call, first reported by Documented, urged "patriots" to congregate at the White House and then "march to Congress" to "stop the steal."

I’m calling for the Rule of Law Defense Fund with an important message. The march to save America is tomorrow in Washington D.C. at the Ellipse in President’s Park between E St. and Constitution Avenue on the south side of the White House, with doors opening at 7:00 a.m. At 1:00 p.m., we will march to the Capitol building and call on Congress to stop the steal. We are hoping patriots like you will join us to continue to fight to protect the integrity of our elections. For more information, visit MarchtoSaveAmerica.com. This call is paid for and authorized by the Rule of Law Defense Fund.

On the March to Save America website, which is no longer online, the Rule of Law Defense Fund was listed alongside "Stop the Steal" and "Wildprotest.com" as a participating organization.
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Oh, crap! The money! They're losing the money! Time to deny any connection to the violence they fully supported!




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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 6:50 AM

REAVERFAN


Welcome to Day 1454.

Today in one sentence: Trump refused to take responsibility for inciting the deadly riot at the Capitol, offered no regrets, and defended his pre-riot speech as "totally appropriate"; Mitch McConnell indicated that he believes Trump committed impeachable offenses; two days before the riot at the Capitol, the FBI warned that extremists were traveling to Washington to commit violence and "war"; Capitol Police briefed House Democrats about three more planned demonstrations in the coming days; and Trump declared a state of emergency in Washington, D.C., citing the “emergency conditions” surrounding Biden’s inauguration.
https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/



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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 7:01 AM

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FBI Warns: Armed MAGA Thugs Planning To Storm State Capitols


Trump's not done yet. His deluded thugs want blood.



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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 7:20 AM

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House Democrats Briefed On 3 Terrifying Plots To Overthrow Government
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-briefed-plot-overthrow-govern
ment_n_5ffd29a4c5b691806c4bf199


Capitol Police briefed Democrats on Monday night about three more potentially gruesome demonstrations planned in the coming days, with one plot to encircle the U.S. Capitol and assassinate Democrats and some Republicans.

On a private call Monday night, new leaders of the Capitol Police told House Democrats they were closely monitoring three separate plans that could pose serious threats to members of Congress as Washington prepares for Democrat Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration on Jan. 20.

The first is a demonstration billed as the “largest armed protest ever to take place on American soil.”

Another is a protest in honor of Ashli Babbitt, the woman killed while trying to climb into the Speaker’s Lobby during Wednesday’s pro-Trump siege of the Capitol.

And another demonstration, which three members said was by far the most concerning plot, would involve insurrectionists forming a perimeter around the Capitol, the White House and the Supreme Court, and then blocking Democrats from entering the Capitol -perhaps even killing them- so that Republicans could take control of the government.

The members of Congress whom HuffPost spoke to Monday night were extremely concerned by the call.

Democrats were told that the Capitol Police and the National Guard were preparing for potentially tens of thousands of armed protesters coming to Washington and were establishing rules of engagement for warfare. In general, the military and police don’t plan to shoot anyone until one of the rioters fires, but there could be exceptions.

One topic of discussion was the need to put every member of Congress through a metal detector before the inauguration. A member on the call told HuffPost that there was an “eyes-wide-open realization” that Capitol Police needed to take precautions against “all these members who were in league with the insurrectionists who love to carry their guns.”

“You can’t just let them bypass security and walk right up to [Joe] Biden and [Kamala] Harris at inauguration,” this lawmaker told HuffPost.

Another area of concern was the Trump administration’s involvement in tamping down an insurrection. “I don’t think anyone has confidence that the folks at the Pentagon, that may or may not even be needed for some of this, or the Department of Homeland Security, where we don’t even know who’s in charge, are going to be cooperative,” one member told HuffPost.
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An army of toothless, illiterate 6ixes, running around killing people because they lost. I hope they all get themselves killed, so we patriots can live in peace.



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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 8:28 AM

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Trump lobs threat at Joe Biden in STUNNING first remarks since insurrection


“What I said was totally appropriate.” Tell it to the judge, Donald.



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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 8:56 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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So 2 big red flags (at least):

1 Trump bailing on inaugural. I don’t see that as a diss - he’s saving his ass. He knows his magats are planning something huge. “Careful what you wish for.” I bet he’s loving the idea of it getting *planed* or attacked with the living presidents there and now - bonus - Pence, the “traitor” will also be there. Bloody coup?

2. Trump is being cut off from almost everything. No twitter, no PGA tourny, etc. He has almost nothing left so nothing left to lose. He’s not going quietly.

3. Okay, 3 things: why the fck did he go to the Alamo?? There’s no reason. Unless it’s some kind of symbolic/ Q trigger bs thing. “You will know it’s on if I go to the Alamo - be ready and I love you.” That’s such a weird place for an appearance now. Flag!


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:58 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Camp Auschwitz hoodie wearing neo-Nazi thug identified
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/10/2008089/-Camp-Auschwitz-hoo
die-wearing-neo-Nazi-thug-identified


Charming.





lol...

This shit right here is why you never leave your house with political slogans on your shirt or bumper stickers on your car.

Drive a nondescript car, wear blacks, whites, greys, earth tone clothes without any words on them and you're basically a ghost in public, hiding in plain sight.

If you haven't figured that out by the time you're in your early 20's, well I guess you deserve to have your picture plastered up on the internet forever by the dailykos.

I wonder if dude still thinks that shirt is "edgy".


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 10:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol...

This shit right here is why you never leave your house with political slogans on your shirt or bumper stickers on your car.

Drive a nondescript car, wear blacks, whites, greys, earth tone clothes without any words on them and you're basically a ghost in public, hiding in plain sight.

If you haven't figured that out by the time you're in your early 20's, well I guess you deserve to have your picture plastered up on the internet forever by the dailykos.

I wonder if dude still thinks that shirt is "edgy".

Where I am from, the Christians tout both religion and Trump/Jesus on clothes and cars.

Before self-proclaimed members of the far-right group the Proud Boys marched toward the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, they stopped to kneel in the street and prayed in the name of Jesus.

The group, whose participants have espoused misogynistic and anti-immigrant views, prayed for God to bring “reformation and revival.” They gave thanks for “the wonderful nation we’ve all been blessed to be in.” They asked God for the restoration of their “value systems,” and for the “courage and strength to both represent you and represent our culture well.” And they invoked the divine protection for what was to come.

Then they rose. Their leader declared into a bullhorn that the media must “get the hell out of my way.” And then they moved toward the Capitol.

The presence of Christian rituals, symbols and language was unmistakable on Wednesday in Washington. There was a mock campaign banner, “Jesus 2020,” in blue and red; an “Armor of God” patch on a man’s fatigues; a white cross declaring “Trump won” in all capitals. All of this was interspersed with allusions to QAnon conspiracy theories, Confederate flags and anti-Semitic T-shirts.

The blend of cultural references, and the people who brought them, made clear a phenomenon that has been brewing for years now: that the most extreme corners of support for Mr. Trump have become inextricable from some parts of white evangelical power in America. Rather than completely separate strands of support, these groups have become increasingly blended together.

This potent mix of grievance and religious fervor has turbocharged the support among a wide swath of Trump loyalists, many of whom describe themselves as participants in a kind of holy war, according to interviews. And many, who are swimming in falsehoods about the presidential election and now the riot itself, said the aftermath of Wednesday’s event has only fueled a deeper sense of victim-hood and being misunderstood.

Lindsay French, 40, an evangelical Christian from Texas, flew to Washington after she had received what she called a “burning bush” sign from God to participate following her pastor urging congregants to “stop the steal.”

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2021/01/12/how-white-evangelical-chri
stians-fused-with-trump-extremism
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 11:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There was no shortage of "I'm With Her" shirts in 2016.

Let's not pretend this is a one sided deal, just because EVERYBODY is forced to wear a mask out in public even if they're not peacefully setting buildings on fire.


If you wear a dumb shirt out in public, don't be surprised when dumb people do dumb stuff to you.


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no shortage of "I'm With Her" shirts in 2016.

Let's not pretend this is a one sided deal, just because EVERYBODY is forced to wear a mask out in public even if they're not peacefully setting buildings on fire.

If you wear a dumb shirt out in public, don't be surprised when dumb people do dumb stuff to you.

If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything? The tactic behind whataboutism has been around for a long time. Rhetoricians generally consider it to be a form of tu quoque, which means "you too" in Latin and involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/whataboutism-origin-mean
ing


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 12:01 PM

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People have been arguing about what happened at the U.S. Capitol is not a coup. These observations are based on the idea that a coup is a sudden, violent seizure of power involving clandestine plots and military takeovers. By contrast, Trump’s goal was to keep himself in power, and his actions were taken over a period of months and in slow motion.

But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a coup attempt. Trump disguised what he was doing by operating in plain sight, talking openly about his intent. He normalized his actions so people would accept them. I’ve been studying authoritarian regimes for three decades, and I know the signs of a coup when I see them.

Technically, what Trump attempted is what’s known as a “self-coup” and Trump isn’t the first leader to try it. Charles Louis Napoleon Bonaparte (nephew of the first Napoleon) pulled one off in France in December 1851 to stay in power beyond his term. Then he declared himself Emperor, Napoleon III. More recently, Nicolas Maduro perpetrated a self-coup in Venezuela after losing the 2017 elections.

The storming of the Capitol building on January 6 was the culmination of a series of actions and events taken or instigated by Trump so he could retain the presidency that together amount to an attempt at a self-coup. This was not a one-off or brief episode. Trump declared “election fraud” immediately on November 4 even while the votes were still being counted. He sought to recount and rerun the election so that he, not Joe Biden, was the winner. In Turkey, in 2015, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan successfully did the same thing; he had called elections to strengthen his presidency, but his party lost its majority in the Parliament. He challenged the results in the courts, marginalized the opposition and forced what he blatantly called a “re-run election.”

More about Trump following the historically well-known path to One Man Rule at https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/11/capitol-riot-self-co
up-trump-fiona-hill-457549


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 12:24 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

People have been arguing about what happened at the U.S. Capitol is not a coup.



And then there are those who, democrat and republicans' both, are going to vote to impeach him for the second time. A few in the house and many in the senate.

I think most do not understand that not only is this about preventing him from running for office again. If convicted he will lose all the perks presented to a former president when he leaves office, and they are substantial.

On a side note, New York just invalidated their contracts with Trump to the tune of 17 million dollars annually. The noose is tightening.


T



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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 7:19 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The Capitol mob didn’t come out of nowhere. It was a response to the concerted attack on 2020’s election results crafted by elite right-wing politicians, academics, and attorneys. No law professor played a bigger role in Donald Trump’s plot to overturn the election than John Eastman. As the president’s actual attorneys backed away from his coup, Eastman rushed in to fill the void, attempting to bolster the scheme with incoherent legal theories. When Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton urged the Supreme Court to overturn the election by nullifying millions of votes, it was Eastman who intervened on Trump’s behalf to endorse Paxton’s suit. When Trump exhorted Vice President Mike Pence to award him a second term by unilaterally disqualifying electoral votes, it was Eastman who advised Pence that he could, indeed, throw the election to Trump. And when Trump needed a putative legal scholar to lend credence to his pre-insurrection rally, he brought out Eastman to deliver a speech alongside Rudy Giuliani, ringleader of the president’s efforts to steal the election.

It is no surprise that Eastman, a white supremacist on the far-right fringe of the conservative legal movement, played a major role in the president’s failed coup. What is remarkable—and, with each passing day, extraordinarily damning—is the Federalist Society’s refusal to address Eastman’s role in the insurrection. Eastman is not only a member of the Federalist Society, the network of conservative attorneys that provided the legal scaffolding for Trumpism. He is the chairman of the organization’s Federalism and Separation of Powers practice group and a frequent participant in its public events. The Federalist Society’s refusal to expel, condemn, or distance itself from Eastman in any way indicates that the organization is untroubled by the subversion of American democracy.

Eastman has spent much of his career promoting blatant lies. He gained notoriety in August when Newsweek published his column questioning the citizenship of Vice President–elect Kamala Harris. Eastman argued that Harris may not be an American citizen—and, thus, may not qualify for vice president—because her parents had not become U.S. citizens when she was born. In reality, the Constitution guarantees beyond debate that the children of immigrants who are born in the United States become American citizens at birth. But Eastman has spent decades denying this fact, instead proposing the objectively false theory that these children do not receive birthright citizenship. His racist theory would require the government to strip citizenship from millions of Americans, most of them nonwhite, and subject them to deportation. (Newsweek later apologized for running his piece.)

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/john-eastman-federalist-so
ciety-capitol-insurrection.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 8:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



According to the article cited the riot was really - yes, REALLY!! - a coup! Because, as the author claims ...
Quote:

I know the signs of a coup when I see them.
And these are the signs:
Quote:

The Military: this episode (BLM protest) emphasized the nonpolitical position of the U.S. military.
So ACCORDING TO THE AUTHOR, TRUMP DID ***NOT*** HAVE CONTROL OF THE MILITARY FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES.
OOPS.
Maybe ... not a coup.
Quote:

Communications: Trump put a loyalist in charge of the Post Office.
Putting a crony in charge of the PO is SOP for every president ...
Quote:

He did not take TV and radio by storm ...
According to the author, the m$m continued to function and broadcast stories, fabrications, and editorials that were anti-Trump. So. TRUMP DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OF THE MEDIA.
OOPS.
Maybe ... not a coup.
Quote:

The judiciary: Trump frequently called for investigations into his opponents and for courts and law enforcement to “lock them all up!”
To be unbiased here, the democrats and the m$m were FAR worse in leaks of anonymous unevidenced claims of lawbreaking, and ginning up political investigations of anyone associated with Trump, and Trump himself; all this done with the support of the FBI, CIA, and NSA, along with the sister agencies of the other of the Five Eyes. And it's not that any of Trump's rhetoric factually happened. It's obvious TRUMP DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE JUDICIARY.
OOPS.
Maybe ... not a coup.
Quote:

The legislature: Finally, Trump usurped the Republican Party. ... 147 Republican members of Congress, led by Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, did endorse some of Trump’s efforts to challenge the election results and overturn the constitutional order. So did Senators Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz and six other politically ambitious senators who wanted to tap into Trump’s popular support.
The author seems confused about democracy. According to his thinking, popular support and votes are to be ignored in favor of preordained outcomes. If Trump gets support from fellow Republicans who're looking at their districts and states, AND COUNTING UP VOTES, it's democracy in action. And once again ...
OOPS.
Maybe ... not a coup.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them-I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 8:30 PM

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One of the persistent mysteries of the past week is what leads Republican House members—some of whom had to crouch on the floor of the chamber while the Capitol was under attack while others were whisked into unidentified locations for their own safety—to refuse to accept who was to blame for the insurrection. With the exception of the 10 Republican House members who voted alongside the Democrats to impeach the president, and a smattering of Republicans who acknowledged that the events of last week could easily have ended their lives but wanted to convene a commission to investigate matters, a non-trivial number of Republicans took to the floor on Wednesday to insist that the real injury of January 6, 2021 was to their own free speech rights. This was perhaps best embodied in the galactically stupid visual of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the QAnon supporting representative from Georgia, who falsely tweeted that Trump would stay in office after inauguration day, wearing a mask that read “CENSORED” as she spoke freely on the House floor, as captured on national television.

There was also Rep Jim Jordan’s inexplicable claim that one cannot “have a functioning First Amendment when cancel culture only allows one side to talk” (again, he was saying this freely on the floor of the House of Representatives).

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 8:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Yeah, run away from your claim that Jan 6, 2021 was a coup ...

... because it obviously was not, and you can't show it was by any available FACTS.


I'd run away from it too, if I were you!


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 8:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



To get back to the title for a bit: So..5 people are dead as a result of Chumps(sic) stunts to avoid prosecution and litigations (sic)

This is a really, really silly claim ... far beyond silly. It ASSumes that Trump could indefinitely postpone leaving the presidency for all his natural-born days. That could never happen in any human-controlled scenario.

Trump will leave the White House. It could have happened in 2025, but it's going to happen in 2021. There was never any doubt. Unless an asteroid hits the planet or there's some extreme unforeseen event that stops the global clock, it's a certainty.

So Trump forever escaping whatever awaits him in the future - especially due to a less than 24-hour riot by a few thousand people - is a total fantasy.

All this sturm un drang is manufactured hysteria by the democrats* and the m$m.*

Oh, and while Biden* may be an acceptable face on the Deep State, don't expect him to do anything vital for you, the US, or the planet.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no shortage of "I'm With Her" shirts in 2016.

Let's not pretend this is a one sided deal, just because EVERYBODY is forced to wear a mask out in public even if they're not peacefully setting buildings on fire.

If you wear a dumb shirt out in public, don't be surprised when dumb people do dumb stuff to you.

If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything? The tactic behind whataboutism has been around for a long time. Rhetoricians generally consider it to be a form of tu quoque, which means "you too" in Latin and involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of.




I haven't been accused of anything, you fucking weirdo.

Don't wear dumb shirts out in public.





And at the end of the day, we're going to pretend what happened in DC was worse than your standard Chicago riot after the Bulls win.

M'kay.

lol


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:55 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


This is a really, really silly claim ... far beyond silly. It ASSumes that Trump could indefinitely postpone leaving the presidency for all his natural-born days. That could never happen in any human-controlled scenario.


Oh, and while Biden* may be an acceptable face on the Deep State, don't expect him to do anything vital for you, the US, or the planet.




I see no evidence that anyone has explained that to Chump. Rational ppl knew he wouldn't get away with lying his way into four more years, but it's beyond clear his minions were happy to help him try.

You know what I expect to get out of Biden??

NOT TRUMP behavior and persona. I am thrilled enough with that




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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 10:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



To get back to the title for a bit: So..5 people are dead as a result of Chumps(sic) stunts to avoid prosecution and litigations (sic)

This is a really, really silly claim ... far beyond silly. It ASSumes that Trump could indefinitely postpone leaving the presidency for all his natural-born days. That could never happen in any human-controlled scenario.

Trump will leave the White House. It could have happened in 2025, but it's going to happen in 2021. There was never any doubt. Unless an asteroid hits the planet or there's some extreme unforeseen event that stops the global clock, it's a certainty.

So Trump forever escaping whatever awaits him in the future - especially due to a less than 24-hour riot by a few thousand people - is a total fantasy.

All this sturm un drang is manufactured hysteria by the democrats* and the m$m.*



Oh, and while Biden* may be an acceptable face on the Deep State, don't expect him to do anything vital for you, the US, or the planet.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 11:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nothing is going to happen to Trump after he leaves office.

Hell... now that Big Tech has locked his voice out, he can't even tweet and keep himself relevant.

Once we start going to war with the Middle East again Trump is going to slide right down the memory hole like all the chants of Lock Her Up did.


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 11:35 PM

REAVERFAN


"The Confederacy was not part of the US, was never part of the US, will never be a part of the US.

They are traitors to democracy.

They are enemies of a multiracial democracy, and they will never have glory in our history, in our present or in our future.

Period."
@AOC
https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/1349222954672869377

I stand with my girl. Why can't you?




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Thursday, January 14, 2021 12:38 AM

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Fuck AOC.


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Thursday, January 14, 2021 3:43 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
NOTHING INTELLIGENT



Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


This is a really, really silly claim ... far beyond silly. It ASSumes that Trump could indefinitely postpone leaving the presidency for all his natural-born days. That could never happen in any human-controlled scenario.


Oh, and while Biden* may be an acceptable face on the Deep State, don't expect him to do anything vital for you, the US, or the planet.




I see no evidence that anyone has explained that to Chump. Rational ppl knew he wouldn't get away with lying his way into four more years, but it's beyond clear his minions were happy to help him try.

You know what I expect to get out of Biden??

NOT TRUMP behavior and persona. I am thrilled enough with that







TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME YOU DIM BIMBO

And where did it get you??




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Thursday, January 14, 2021 4:18 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Oh, and while Biden* may be an acceptable face on the Deep State, don't expect him to do anything vital for you, the US, or the planet.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:39 AM

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The Slush Fund Bankrolling The Insurrectionist GOP
Corporations are being lauded for halting PAC donations after the insurrection — but they are not shutting down the real pool of cash supporting authoritarian extremists.
https://www.dailyposter.com/p/the-slush-fund-bankrolling-the-insurrect
ionist?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo2ODg1MzEsInBvc3RfaWQiOjMxNDYwMDQ2LCJfIjoidFlaVHoiLCJpYXQiOjE2MTA2MjQyMjEsImV4cCI6MTYxMDYyNzgyMSwiaXNzIjoicHViLTM3Nzc4Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.2nNbXYSGid7HxC0ciK1RCFAkECh6V89AckxU-2XtJ5Y






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Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:40 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


Oh, and while Biden* may be an acceptable face on the Deep State, don't expect him to do anything vital for you, the US, or the planet.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

Yes, because Trump was all about helping others.

Dipshit troll.



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Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:42 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


Oh, and while Biden* may be an acceptable face on the Deep State, don't expect him to do anything vital for you, the US, or the planet.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.



Why all the Biden posts? Is he your guy? He must be, you keep posting about him.

T



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Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:47 AM

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Unusual Tours In Capitol Ahead Of Trump Mob Attack Prompts Investigation


An inside job.
Because it's not like these same MAGA cultists tried to kidnap the Governor of Michigan or anything.



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Thursday, January 14, 2021 7:01 AM

THG


I know reaver this is really fucked up. We'll find out more and more, none of it good, as time and the investigations go on.

T



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Thursday, January 14, 2021 7:33 AM

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I know reaver this is really fucked up. We'll find out more and more, none of it good, as time and the investigations go on.

T



Looks like we had people in congress aiding and comforting an insurrection.

GOP congresswoman comes under criticism for tweets about Pelosi during the riot
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-news-01-11-21
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Thursday, January 14, 2021 7:49 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Yeah, run away from your claim that Jan 6, 2021 was a coup ...

... because it obviously was not, and you can't show it was by any available FACTS.


I'd run away from it too, if I were you!


I am not running away, but if you can't learn, 1kiki, I will not try different arguments to change your mind. I have decades of experience with hundreds of Trumptards before they voted for Trump. A characteristic that distinguishes them is they are like Trump is. There is no getting through their thick skull. They have crippling limitations and no amount of my words will help them overcome their limitations. They can't help themselves.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:04 AM

REAVERFAN


Absolute loon.





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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Trump DID NOT direct supporters to "storm the Capitol building" despite the oft-rpeated lie. (SECOND reposts that lie often) The only way nyone gets to make that claim is by repeatedly misrepresenting Trump, who urged supporters to PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY CHEER for some Congresspeople. I posted the video of his entire quote, if anyone is interested in FACTS.

Since accusations afterwards are based on that lie, the whole thing is nonsense.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a DEAD THREAD, like all of the hyperventilation about RUSSIA! and KAVANUAGH! and COVINGTON! and UKRAINE!

It's just a bunch of people endlessly regurgitating lies and whipping each other into a fact-free frenzy. Apparently, not a single one of them has read "1984".

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#WEARAMASK

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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:15 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump DID NOT direct supporters to "storm the Capitol building" despite the oft-rpeated lie. (SECOND reposts that lie often) The only way nyone gets to make that claim us by seriously misquoting Trump, who urges supporters to PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY CHEER for some Congresspeople.

Since accusations afterwards are based on that lie, the whole thing is nonsense.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a DEAD THREAD, like all of the hyperventilation and hysteria about RUSSIA! and KAVANUAGH! and COVINGTON! and UKRAINE!

It's just a bunch of people endlessly regurgitating online lies and whipping each other into a fact-free frenzy. Apparently, not a single one of them has read "1984".

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#WEARAMASK

Kill yourself, Russian troll.



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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:17 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump DID NOT direct supporters to "storm the Capitol building" despite the oft-rpeated lie. (SECOND reposts that lie often) The only way nyone gets to make that claim us by seriously misquoting Trump, who urges supporters to PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY CHEER for some Congresspeople.

Since accusations afterwards are based on that lie, the whole thing is nonsense.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a DEAD THREAD, like all of the hyperventilation and hysteria about RUSSIA! and KAVANUAGH! and COVINGTON! and UKRAINE!

It's just a bunch of people endlessly regurgitating online lies and whipping each other into a fact-free frenzy. Apparently, not a single one of them has read "1984".

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Kill yourself, Russian troll.



If that's all you've gotto say, then you obviously have NOHING to say, adding one more dead post to a dead thread.

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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:18 AM

REAVERFAN


We now know that several people involved in this insurrection had detailed inside knowledge of the layout of the Capitol, including the locations of certain offices, that people removed panic buttons, and that some knew where the tunnels were.

They were given guided tours.

This was an inside job, and we're lucky these trumptard terrorists didn't murder more people.



https://www.the-sun.com/news/2105380/us-capitol-rioters-zip-ties-plan-
take-hostages
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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:19 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

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If that's all you've gotto say, then you obviously have NOHING to say, adding one more dead post to a dead thread.



Kill yourself. That's a sincere request. Do one good thing in your useless life.





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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:41 AM

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These Three House Republicans Helped Plan US Capitol Attack





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Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:50 AM

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Panic Buttons Were Removed BEFORE US Capitol Attack


At least 28 currently-serving police were involved in the trumptard terrorist assault.



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Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:09 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump DID NOT direct supporters to "storm the Capitol building" despite the oft-rpeated lie. (SECOND reposts that lie often) The only way nyone gets to make that claim is by repeatedly misrepresenting Trump, who urged supporters to PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY CHEER for some Congresspeople. I posted the video of his entire quote, if anyone is interested in FACTS.

Since accusations afterwards are based on that lie, the whole thing is nonsense.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a DEAD THREAD, like all of the hyperventilation about RUSSIA! and KAVANUAGH! and COVINGTON! and UKRAINE!

It's just a bunch of people endlessly regurgitating lies and whipping each other into a fact-free frenzy. Apparently, not a single one of them has read "1984".

Trump says he won the election by a landslide. He lies; he lost. He says "stop the steal". He lies; the election was not stolen. And he said his lies just before the mob went to hang V.P. Mike Pence, who was in the middle of certifying that Trump lost the election. The day after the mob was cleared out of the Capitol Building, Pence did certify Trump lost.


Trump tweeted this just a minute before the Capitol Building riot started:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
1:24 PM · Jan 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346900434540240897

Twitter marked that as: "This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this Tweet can’t be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence". Far too late, Twitter deleted the tweet: "This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules. Learn more"

Trump was telling the Capitol Building rioters to do what "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution". Guess what happened next, Signym? It was on TV. The rioters stopped the counting of votes, which Mike Pence had refused to do for Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump did win the election by a landslide.


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