January 6th Commission investigating coup attempt. Hey Jack, I Was Right by THG

On what grounds?

Where is it stated that lawyers lose their constitutional rights after they pass the Bar?

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Monday, December 6, 2021 8:24 PM

Mike Pence staffer who Trump banned from the White House is cooperating with January 6 committee

The congressional panel looking into the January 6 insurrection is getting "significant cooperation from Team Pence," a source told CNN on Monday, with the former vice president's ex-chief of staff reportedly complying with the committee's investigation.

Marc Short, the Pence aide, could provide key testimony concerning both the lead-up to the attack on the US Capitol and events on January 6

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-pence-staffer-who-trump-b
anned-from-the-white-house-is-cooperating-with-january-6-committee-cnn/ar-AARxr6j?ocid=msedgntp

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Monday, December 6, 2021 10:12 PM

Trump will be fine.

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Friday, December 10, 2021 6:11 AM

Appeals court rules against Trump’s bid to block records from Jan. 6 probe

Afederal appeals court on Thursday rejected an effort by former President Donald Trump to shield White House records from the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

The three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled that “there is a unique legislative need for these documents and that they are directly relevant to the Committee’s inquiry into an attack on the Legislative Branch and its constitutional role in the peaceful transfer of power.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/appeals-court-rules-against-tr
ump-e2-80-99s-bid-to-block-records-from-jan-6-probe/ar-AARFegM?ocid=uxbndlbing

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Friday, December 10, 2021 9:41 AM

There was no coup attempt. There was no insurrection.

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Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:11 AM

Capitol attack panel obtains PowerPoint that set out plan for Trump to stage coup

Former Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows turned over to the House select committee investigating the 6 January Capitol attack a PowerPoint recommending Donald Trump to declare a national security emergency in order to return himself to the presidency.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/capitol-attack-panel-obtains-p
owerpoint-that-set-out-plan-for-trump-to-stage-coup/ar-AARHAqE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Yep, we know. Everyone here knows Trump attempted a coup.

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Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:40 AM

There was no attempted coup. There was no insurrection.

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Saturday, December 11, 2021 3:10 PM

Donald Trump claims his Jan. 6 speech in which he told supporters to 'fight like hell' was 'extremely calming'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-claims-his-jan-6-
speech-in-which-he-told-supporters-to-fight-like-hell-was-extremely-calming/ar-AARHV8M?ocid=msedgntp

This is why Trump fans are made up of people without an education. You know, dummies.

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Sunday, December 12, 2021 6:29 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Former NYC police commissioner demands apology from Jan. 6 committee, but plans to comply
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/23/bernie-kerik-january-6-apolog
y-523259

Meadows Sues Pelosi, Jan. 6 Committee Hours After Panel Announces Criminal Contempt Plan
https://www.ibtimes.com/meadows-sues-pelosi-jan-6-committee-hours-afte
r-panel-announces-criminal-contempt-3354298

'Disgraced former Trump aide Roger Stone will plead the fifth at Capitol riot hearing, lawyer says'
https://news.yahoo.com/disgraced-former-trump-aide-roger-163027722.htm
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U.S. House Capitol Jan. 6 probe subpoenas more Trump aides
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/u-house-capitol-jan-6-195421999.html

One troll who was part of the Riot? Originally known as an Extremely Online personality, Baked Alaska was gradually banned from most mainstream social media platforms. In January 2021, Gionet aka Backed Alaska livestreamed the riot, protest, mob attack on the U.S. Capitol building
Far-right troll streamer 'Baked Alaska' busted after Capitol riot. The news media says Streamer Tim Gionet aka 'Baked Alaska' stormed Capitol while COVID positive
https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/06/06/baked-alaska-far-right-troll-c
harged-in-capitol-riots-avoids-house-arrest/
Former Buzz Feed?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13682493/tim-gionet-baked-alaska-arreste
d-houston-capitol-riot/
'He has also used the alias Tim Treadstone'
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/17/former-la-worker-baked-alaska-a
rrested-in-capitol-riot-probe/
Kiwifarms has a thread on this madness
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/baked-alaska-tim-treadstone-tim-gionet-a
nthime-joseph-gionet.28182/

maybe the show can get Q-Anon shaman to testify...

They delivered subpoenas to that nut crackpot doomsday broadcaster AlexJones???

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no coup attempt.

There was a guy armed with a spear

US Capitol riot: 'QAnon Shaman' jailed for 41 months over role in 6 January violence
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/us-capitol-riot-qanon-shaman-jailed-for
-41-months-over-role-in-6-january-violence-12471030

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/17/jake-angeli-ja
cob-chansley-qanon-shaman-sentenced-role-jan-6-raid/8652784002/

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2021/11/17/jake-ang
eli-jacob-chansley-qanon-shaman-sentenced-role-jan-6-raid/6403194001/

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Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:17 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no coup attempt.

There was a guy armed with a spear

Yup. Not even scary in Peak Defund The Police mode.

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US Capitol riot: 'QAnon Shaman' jailed for 41 months over role in 6 January violence

Only 41 months, huh? And that was all he got when he was also infected with Covid (Which the Leftist Legacy Media would have you believe is far deadlier than a not scary spear).

If this were a coup attempt or insurrection (which it wasn't), that would have possibly been treason, and at the very least it would have been sedition.

You'd get a lot more than 41 months for sedition. You'd probably get the death penalty for treason.

They're so full of shit about all of this I can smell it all the way from Indiana.

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Monday, December 13, 2021 10:28 AM

Chris Christie fired a fresh salvo at Trump, saying the events leading up to the Capitol riot were 'driven from the top' by 'C-team players'

Former Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey gave his take on the events leading up to the January 6 Capitol riot, calling it a process "driven from the top" and "executed by C-team players."

Christie made these comments Sunday in an appearance on ABC News' "This Week" hosted by George Stephanopoulos. The former governor was responding to a comment from Stephanopoulos about a PowerPoint presentation sent by Mark Meadows, then the White House chief of staff, detailing how the Trump team could work to overturn the 2020 US election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-christie-fired-a-fresh-s
alvo-at-trump-saying-the-events-leading-up-to-the-capitol-riot-were-driven-from-the-top-by-c-team-players/ar-AARKyhz?ocid=msedgntp

Now, Chris Christie speaks out against Trump. Even though what he says is true he blows with the wind. He is as corruptible and dishonest as they come. He is cut from the same cloth.

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Monday, December 13, 2021 10:47 AM

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Now, Chris Christie speaks out against Trump. Even though what he says is true he blows with the wind. He is as corruptible and dishonest as they come. He is cut from the same cloth.

Shut up, Ted.

We know you've blown everyone from John McCain to John Bolton when they lie about Trump.

There was no coup attempt, there was no insurrection.

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Monday, December 13, 2021 12:28 PM

Judge refuses to toss key charge in Capitol riot case

A federal judge has refused to throw out a key charge against two men accused of storming the U.S. Capitol to obstruct the Electoral College vote certification proceedings, upholding prosecutors' use of a criminal statute that many other riot defendants are charged with violating.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-refuses-to-toss-key-char
ge-in-capitol-riot-case/ar-AARLZZZ?ocid=msedgntp

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:11 AM

Fox stays silent about new texts that expose Hannity and Ingraham's Jan. 6 hypocrisy

Fox News did not bother to air Monday night's meeting of the House committee investigating the 1/6 attack. Neither did Newsmax or One America News. So right-wing TV audiences did not hear when Rep. Liz Cheney revealed that some of Fox's biggest stars pressed Mark Meadows for help during the siege of the Capitol.

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"Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home," Laura Ingraham texted Meadows. "This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy."

She knew. They all knew. They all knew the truth right away. But by the night of 1/6, Ingraham was spouting conspiracy theories about "ANTIFA" and excusing the peaceful "patriots" who, let's be clear, paraded into DC based on a lie she pushed over and over again. Fox's pro-Trump programming was partly to blame for the Big Lie, so when that lie led to violence, of course some of the hosts panicked and tried to put out the fire.

On Monday, Cheney read two other texts from Fox stars to Meadows from 1/6. One was from Brian Kilmeade: "Please, get him on TV. Destroying everything you have accomplished." The other was from Sean Hannity: "Can he make a statement, ask people to leave the Capitol?" Cheney didn't specify what time those texts were sent. But I was struck by Hannity's casual tone about the unfolding terror. At least Kilmeade said "please, get him on TV."

The 1/6 committee has thousands of other texts and emails. Cheney shared just a tiny sampling on Monday. But the tiny sampling is deeply embarrassing for Fox and the Murdochs. As Maggie Haberman said, this "undercuts efforts by everyone whose name she read who might say Jan. 6 wasn't that bad." It "wasn't that bad" has been one of Fox's dominant themes this year. This banner on "Don Lemon Tonight" captured it perfectly: "Fox hosts and Donald Trump Jr. knew exactly what was happening and now they pretend it didn't happen."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-stays-silent-about-new-tex
ts-that-expose-hannity-and-ingraham-s-jan-6-hypocrisy/ar-AARMXis?ocid=msedgntp

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 11:05 AM

Fox News hosts Ingraham, Kilmeade, Hannity, as well as Trump Jr., urged Meadows to help stop Jan. 6 riot, committee says

Fox News hosts Laura Ingraham, Brian Kilmeade and Sean Hannity were among those who sent Meadows messages during the riot. Members of Congress and Donald Trump Jr. also urged the White House to act in messages to Meadows.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-hosts-ingraham-kilmea
de-hannity-as-well-as-trump-jr-urged-meadows-to-help-stop-jan-6-riot-committee-says/ar-AARO4Gx?ocid=msedgntp

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 11:07 AM

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no coup attempt. There was no insurrection.

Trump doesn't see it that way: Trump says Pence is 'mortally wounded' inside the GOP for his role in certifying 2020 election results

Pence ultimately rejected pleas from Trump and his top allies to halt certification of Joe Biden's victory by the House and Senate in January, hours after he was forced to take shelter at a secure location inside the US Capitol while a mob of Trump supporters stormed the building -- with some chanting "Hang Mike Pence" as they breached security barriers.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/politics/trump-pence-comments-2020-cert
ification/index.html

According to Trump, it was the Democrats and Pence who successfully executed a coup against Trump. Trump is a nutjob using reverse psychology on his voters, who are all nuttier than Trump.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:50 PM

Ex-prosecutor says what Cheney said about Trump made his ears perk up

During a hearing with the select committee investigating the January 6 insurrection, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) read almost directly from the criminal code, suggesting the committee could refer former President Trump for criminal charges.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-prosecutor-says-what-cheney
-said-about-trump-made-his-ears-perk-up/vi-AARNyvF?ocid=msedgntp

I'd be surprised if he didn't face charges when all is said and done. He broke the law.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 1:03 PM

Former White House official reveals she sent 'people are going to die' Jan. 6 text to Meadows

"That is my text," Farah said, adding that she made a "horrifying" realization that the text message was sent "about an hour before Ashli Babbitt died, and it was a few hours before we learned that officer Brian Sicknick died. There was a window where people of good conscience could have spoken up and stopped the violence," she said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-white-house-official-re
veals-she-sent-people-are-going-to-die-jan-6-text-to-meadows/ar-AARMyvk?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 2:54 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

I'd be surprised if he didn't face charges when all is said and done. He broke the law.

T

For rich, important people, the law in America doesn't work efficiently as it does with poorer criminals. In 1804, Vice President Aaron Burr killed Alexander Hamilton, but Burr was not charged in New Jersey, where he shot Hamilton, and Burr was not charged in New York, where Hamilton died. Burr never went to trial. You would think that the kinks would have been ironed out of the legal system in the last two hundred years, but the legal system still doesn't work worth a damn for people like Burr or Trump. Trump has not yet paid the taxes he has owed for 20 years and it looks like his lawyers will be able to keep the legal system in gridlock for another 20 years. By then, Trump will be dead and the statute of limitations means he couldn't go on trial for tax cheating even if alive.

By the way, Vice President Burr wasn't done being a criminal. Burr plotted with James Wilkinson, commander of the U.S. Army, to seize the Louisiana Territory and establish an independent empire. In the fall of 1806, Burr led a group of well-armed colonists toward New Orleans, prompting an immediate U.S. investigation. General Wilkinson, in an effort to save himself, turned against Burr and sent dispatches to Washington accusing Burr of treason. In February 1807, Burr was arrested in Louisiana for treason and sent to Virginia to be tried in a U.S. court. In September, he was acquitted on a technicality. That is how the system has always worked for people with connections in high places or the best lawyers money can buy.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/burr-slays-hamilton-in-due
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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:14 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

The Taliban in Afghanistan? Now THAT'S a coup!

Jan 6? No planes, no tanks, no rockets or mortars, not even any guns. It was a riot at worst by people who brought staves - aka flags (but no flambeaux or pitchforks). And do people die in riots? Yes they do! Even 'mostly peaceful' ones! But people dying does not an 'insurrection' make. Or every riot would be called an 'insurrection', even the 'mostly peaceful' ones.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 4:08 PM

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Jan 6? No planes, no tanks, no rockets or mortars, not even any guns. It was a riot at worst by people who brought staves - aka flags (but no flambeaux or pitchforks). And do people die in riots? Yes they do! Even 'mostly peaceful' ones! But people dying does not an 'insurrection' make. Or every riot would be called an 'insurrection', even the 'mostly peaceful' ones.

It was a coup. Democrats (with Mike Pence as their co-conspirator) overthrow Trump for Biden* :

Quote:
"I think Mike has been very badly hurt by what took place in respect to January 6," Trump said. "I think he's been mortally wounded, frankly, because I see the reaction he's getting from people."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/politics/trump-pence-comments-2020-cert
ification/index.html

There is another kind of coup:

Latin America has a history of autogolpes, or “self-coups.” This is the term for efforts by sitting executives to enhance or retain power by overturning electoral outcomes or by unconstitutionally gutting the power of other branches of government. Trump’s measures to overturn the elections since November 3 constitute a “coup,” as they involve illegal usurpation of state power, even when it may not involve the use of force. Yet it is a “self”-coup because it is perpetrated by the head of government rather than military officers or others against that chief executive.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2021/01/08/no-its-not-
a-coup-its-a-failed-self-coup-that-will-undermine-us-leadership-and-democracy-worldwide/

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 5:07 PM

There was no coup. There was no insurrection.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 5:42 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no coup. There was no insurrection.

6ixStringJack is hallucinating.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 5:55 PM

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Quote:
Trump’s measures ...

Such as - giving speeches?

Quote:
... to overturn the elections since November 3 constitute a “coup” as they involve illegal usurpation of state power ...

By doing what, exactly?

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:06 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

By doing what, exactly?

Trump’s behavior constitutes a self-coup since he has sought to undermine the integrity of the November 3 election and has sought to overturn the results of an election. He urged voters to illegally vote twice; he sought to disenfranchise voters; he sought to coerce officials to alter the vote results.

Mitch McConnell will explain Jan 6th to you, 1kiki:
https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ID=2ED
4EA6B-4BEE-462C-BF1E-7972207B5F53

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:13 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Did Trump himself ... dissolve Congress? Kidnap the Supreme Court? Invoke the military?

Your article is deficient in links for its claims.

I want to see facts about what TRUMP did. Not unsubstantiated bullshit about unnamed 'thems'.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 6:27 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Did Trump himself ... dissolve Congress? Kidnap the Supreme Court? Invoke the military?

Your article is deficient in links for its claims.

I want to see facts about what TRUMP did. Not unsubstantiated bullshit about unnamed 'thems'.

Let me post what Mitch McConnell wrote because you obviously didn't click the link:

February 13, 2021

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) delivered the following remarks today on the Senate floor regarding the impeachment trial:

“January 6th was a disgrace.

“American citizens attacked their own government. They used terrorism to try to stop a specific piece of democratic business they did not like.

“Fellow Americans beat and bloodied our own police. They stormed the Senate floor. They tried to hunt down the Speaker of the House. They built a gallows and chanted about murdering the Vice President.

“They did this because they had been fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on Earth — because he was angry he’d lost an election.

***

“Former President Trump’s actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful dereliction of duty.

“The House accused the former President of, quote, ‘incitement.’ That is a specific term from the criminal law.

“Let me put that to the side for one moment and reiterate something I said weeks ago: There is no question that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day.

“The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their President.

“And their having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole which the defeated President kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet Earth.

“The issue is not only the President’s intemperate language on January 6th.

“It is not just his endorsement of remarks in which an associate urged ‘trial by combat.’

“It was also the entire manufactured atmosphere of looming catastrophe; the increasingly wild myths about a reverse landslide election that was being stolen in some secret coup by our now-President.

“I defended the President’s right to bring any complaints to our legal system. The legal system spoke. The Electoral College spoke. As I stood up and said clearly at the time, the election was settled.

“But that reality just opened a new chapter of even wilder and more unfounded claims.

“The leader of the free world cannot spend weeks thundering that shadowy forces are stealing our country and then feign surprise when people believe him and do reckless things.

“Sadly, many politicians sometimes make overheated comments or use metaphors that unhinged listeners might take literally.

“This was different.

“This was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories, orchestrated by an outgoing president who seemed determined to either overturn the voters’ decision or else torch our institutions on the way out.

***

“The unconscionable behavior did not end when the violence began.

“Whatever our ex-President claims he thought might happen that day… whatever reaction he says he meant to produce… by that afternoon, he was watching the same live television as the rest of the world.

“A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name. These criminals were carrying his banners, hanging his flags, and screaming their loyalty to him.

“It was obvious that only President Trump could end this.

“Former aides publicly begged him to do so. Loyal allies frantically called the Administration.

“But the President did not act swiftly. He did not do his job. He didn’t take steps so federal law could be faithfully executed, and order restored.

“Instead, according to public reports, he watched television happily as the chaos unfolded. He kept pressing his scheme to overturn the election!

“Even after it was clear to any reasonable observer that Vice President Pence was in danger… even as the mob carrying Trump banners was beating cops and breaching perimeters… the President sent a further tweet attacking his Vice President.

“Predictably and foreseeably under the circumstances, members of the mob seemed to interpret this as further inspiration to lawlessness and violence.

“Later, even when the President did halfheartedly begin calling for peace, he did not call right away for the riot to end. He did not tell the mob to depart until even later.

“And even then, with police officers bleeding and broken glass covering Capitol floors, he kept repeating election lies and praising the criminals.

“In recent weeks, our ex-President’s associates have tried to use the 74 million Americans who voted to re-elect him as a kind of human shield against criticism.

“Anyone who decries his awful behavior is accused of insulting millions of voters.

“That is an absurd deflection.

“74 million Americans did not invade the Capitol. Several hundred rioters did.

“And 74 million Americans did not engineer the campaign of disinformation and rage that provoked it.

“One person did.

https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ID=2ED
4EA6B-4BEE-462C-BF1E-7972207B5F53

1kiki, if you can't read, Mitch McConnell will read the speech to you, child:

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 8:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no coup. There was no insurrection.

Was Senator Mitch McConnell mistaken when he said with police officers bleeding and broken glass covering Capitol floors, Trump kept repeating election lies and praising the criminals. They beat and bloodied our own police. They stormed the Senate floor. They tried to hunt down the Speaker of the House. They built a gallows and chanted about murdering the Vice President. They did this because they had been fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on Earth — because he was angry he’d lost an election.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 8:18 PM

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Tuesday, December 14, 2021 9:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no coup. There was no insurrection.

6ix, for years you have been telling anyone who will read you that you're crazy when you write such as "Nobody dies of Covid." Your nonsense on Jan 6th is more of the same old craziness.

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 2:03 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Let me post what Mitch McConnell wrote because you obviously didn't click the link:

February 13, 2021

... disgrace ... attacked ... terrorism ... beat and bloodied our own police ... stormed ... tried to hunt down ... built a gallows ... chanted

... disgraceful ... The House accused ... practically and morally ... believed they were acting

... statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole ... intemperate language

... an associate ... manufactured atmosphere ... wild myths ... wilder and more unfounded claims ... thundering ... intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories ...
... A mob was assaulting the Capitol ... were carrying his banners, hanging his flags, and screaming their loyalty to him ...

Later ... when the President did ... begin calling for peace ... did ... tell the mob to depart ... later ...

police officers bleeding and broken glass ...

None of this makes for a coup. At worst it sounds like a riot. And your idiocy insults everyone who has ever been through a coup.

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:05 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

None of this makes for a coup. At worst it sounds like a riot. And your idiocy insults everyone who has ever been through a coup.

1kiki, your reply is just as empty-headed nonsense as when 6ix replies:

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was no coup. There was no insurrection.

or, when 6ix replies on another topic, "Nobody dies of Covid." 1kiki, you are deliberately being obtuse.

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 9:59 AM

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Text messages that were sent on January 6 to President Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, leave no doubt: the White House knew exactly what was happening at the Capitol. Republican members of Congress and others wrote to Mark Meadows as the attack was underway:

"Hey, Mark, protestors are literally storming the Capitol. Breaking windows on doors. Rushing in. Is Trump going to say something?"

"We are under siege up here at the Capitol."

"They have breached the Capitol."

"There's an armed standoff at the House Chamber door."

"We are all helpless."

Dozens of texts, including from Trump administration officials, urged immediate action by the President:

"POTUS has to come out firmly and tell protestors to dissipate. Someone is going to get killed"

"Mark, he needs to stop this. Now"

"TELL THEM TO GO HOME"

"POTUS needs to calm this s*** down."

Indeed, according to the records, multiple Fox News hosts knew the President needed to act immediately. They texted Meadows that:

"Hey Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home...this is hurting all of us...he is destroying his legacy." Laura Ingraham wrote.

"Please get him on tv. Destroying everything you have accomplished." Brian Kilmeade wrote.

"Can he make a statement?...Ask people to leave the Capitol." Sean Hannity urged.

As the violence continued, one of the President's sons texted Meadows:

"He's got to condemn this s*** Asap. The Capitol Police tweet is not enough." Donald Trump, Jr. texted.

Meadows responded: "I'm pushing it hard. I agree."

Still, President Trump did not immediately act.

Donald Trump, Jr. texted again and again, urging action by the President: "We need an Oval address. He has to lead now. It has gone too far and gotten out of hand."

None of this is a surprise. Virtually everyone — Democrat and Republican alike — condemned the insurrection at the time it happened. Over time, however, Republicans steadily beat a retreat, and within a couple of months they were all saying that Democrats were making a mountain out of a molehill. That's what they were saying in public, anyway. But in private:

The best thing about the Meadows texts is how it's embarrassing to people who were willing to be half-way patriotically decent in private but not in public.

https://jabberwocking.com/in-congress-today-liz-cheney-read-texts-sent
-to-the-white-house-on-january-6/

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 12:46 PM

Yep, nice smack down second...

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 1:14 PM

Cheney Emphasis Makes Clear: Possible Trump Federal Crime A Focus Of January 6th Committee

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 1:25 PM

BRENDA

Even, I as a Canadian was horrified by what happened that day and couldn't believe what I was seeing.

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 2:23 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

You can't seem to answer the question, SECOND.

What did TRUMP do SPECIFICALLY that could be construed as some kind of coup?

Watch TV?

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 2:28 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Brenda, Washington DC has a very long history of brutal riots, going back to the 1800's. Here's a small sampling:

2021 George Floyd (the other 2021 DC riot)
Washington riots: Destruction and looting just metres from the White House | 7NEWS
https://jagvid.com/watch/washington-riots-destruction-and-looting-just
-metres-from-the-white-house-7news_GTupJuwSzpKbNOe.html

2020
WAR ON THE STREETS
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13040959/second-night-of-looting-philade
lphia-police-shoot-black-man/

1969
NATION'S CAPITAL HELD AT MERCY OF THE MOB
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/magazine/1989/07/16/n
ations-capital-held-at-mercy-of-the-mob/89f8f5bc-7e32-43aa-8479-d1213768e769/

1968
The four days in 1968 that reshaped D.C.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/dc-riots-1968/

1932: U.S. Army Kicks U.S. Veterans Out of Washington
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/73642/1932-us-army-kicks-us-vetera
ns-out-washington

1919
The Mob Violence of the Red Summer
https://daily.jstor.org/the-mob-violence-of-the-red-summer/

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 3:34 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

You can't seem to answer the question, SECOND.

What did TRUMP do SPECIFICALLY that could be construed as some kind of coup?

Watch TV?

Here is the answer, 1kiki. I knew what you would do, and you did it very predictably, and I had the answer ready for you.

Anatomy of a Takeover

https://www.tgiokdi.com/2021/12/12/anatomy-of-a-take-over/

As of Nov. 3rd the problem Trump had to solve is this: “How do I retain the presidency even though I lost the electoral college?”

Let’s start by reverse engineering the problem…

How do I retain the presidency even though I lost the electoral college?

The only viable path to victory is to force a contingent election whereby congress decides who is the next president. (we’ve already done the math and you have the numbers to win.)

How do I force a contingent election?

At this point the only viable way is to make sure that the conditions required to certify the electoral college are not met.

How do I make sure those conditional requirements are not met?

If you can delay the certification for even 1 day then legally the conditional requirements will not have been met.

How do I delay the certification for even 1 day?

The VP is the lynch pin in to the electoral college process. You have to keep the VP from completing the electoral college certification process on the 6th of January.

How do I keep the VP from completing the electoral college certification process on the 6th of January?

Get the VP to leave the capitol before the electoral college certification is complete.

How do I get the VP to leave the capitol before the electoral college certification is complete?

The VP has to want to leave the capitol.

How do I get the VP to want to leave the capitol?

If his life and the lives of his family were at risk he would want to leave the capitol.

How could his life and his family’s lives be put at risk?

If he and his family were in the capitol building and it came under attack their lives would be at risk.

How could the capitol building come under attack?

A protest could easily get out of hand and become a riot aimed at the capitol building.

How can I make sure there is a protest on the day of the electoral college certification at the capitol?

Announce a rally to be scheduled on January 6th at the capitol and promote it heavily.

But Pence is my VP he’s been 100% loyal to me. Even if there was a riot, why would the people attacking the capitol turn on Pence?

We would have to give the rioters a reason to turn on Pence.

How do we give the rioters a reason to turn on Pence?

Have a very publicized meeting just before Jan 6th and ask Pence to just overturn the electoral college even though the states already certified the results. All while knowing it’s not within Pences constitutional powers and that he will not agree to do it. Then blame him very publicly when he actually doesn’t do it. Blame him while the riot is happening even.

How do we know the protest will have enough time to turn into a riot that will cause the evacuation of Pence before the certification?

We will call friendly Republican senators during the electoral college certification and get them to object as much as possible as to delay the certification as long as possible.

How do we make sure the protest will turn into a riot?

Hold a rally before the protest and really convince the crowd that if the electoral college is successful in certifying the election the country will be destroyed and they will have been cheated out of an election. Tell them it’s time to kick ass and take names. Tell them it’s time for trial by combat. Tell them it’s their last chance to save America.

How do we know the rioters will invade the capitol?

We would need to communicate with protest organizers in the crowd that could lead and incite the rioters.

How would we communicate with both the friendly senators and the protest leaders in the crowd?

We would have people keep in touch with protest organizers on the ground and also set up a command center where calls could be made to senators and others.

How would I keep the national guard from deploying and stopping the riot before Pence evacuates?

You would have to place people in charge at the Pentagon who will delay deployment of the National Guard.

That sounds like it could actually work.

So the plan is…

Step 1. Convince a large number of supporters that mass election fraud caused the election to be stolen from them.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-tweets-he-won-not-conceding-9c
e22e9dc90577f7365d150c151a91c7

Step 2.Announce a rally to “Stop the Steal” scheduled on the same day at the same location where the electoral college certification is taking place. Have the rally end right before the certification begins.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/trump-promises-wild-protest-in-dc-on-jan-6
-the-day-congress-to-count-electoral-votes

Step 3. Place leadership at the pentagon who will delay the deployment of the national guard.

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/03/973292523/dod-took-hours-to-approve-nat
ional-guard-request-during-capitol-riot-commander-s

Step 4. Before the rally, setup a communications command center at the Willard Hotel.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/willard-trump-eastman-gi
uliani-bannon/2021/10/23/c45bd2d4-3281-11ec-9241-aad8e48f01ff_story.html

Step 5. Right before the rally, have a meeting with Pence and ask him to ignore the electoral college results and send the election to congress. The morning of the certification before the rally send out a tweet again encouraging Pence to hand the election to trump. (knowing full well he wont do it.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-leans-harder-pence-
flip-election-results-n1252849

Step 6. At the rally, have speakers use very violent rhetoric to really stir up the crowd and then direct them to march on the capitol.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-ke
y-part-of-impeachment-trial

Step 7. During the riot tweet that Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and Constitution.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-pence-tweet-capitol-riot-impeachm
ent-trial_n_6024b281c5b6b295bc045640

Step 8. In the command center where calls are already going out to senators to get them to object to delay certification, begin having people communicate with protest organizers on the ground to lead and incite the crowd to invade the capitol and turn on Pence. (the capitol is breached and “hang mike pence!” chants begin)

https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-left-voicemail-for-tommy-tube
rville-on-wrong-number-2021-1

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/01/11/capitol-assault-a-more-sinister
-attack-than-first-appeared

Step 9. Watch and wait for Pence to evacuate the Capitol to escape the invading rioters calling for his death.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ignored-plea-stop-capitol-rioter
s-kept-watching-tv-book-2021-9

Step 10. Once Pence has left the Capitol and the conditional requirements to certify the electoral college are not met, argue that legally the election has no alternative but to be declared a contingent election. Whereby congress would then have to reconvene and vote to elect the next president instead of voting to confirm the outcome of the electoral college.

https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u-s–elections-work/what-is-the-cont
ingent-election-and-voting-process-.html

Trump retains the presidency.

Luckily step 10 didn't happen. It all almost did. If Pence had just evacuated Trump would be president right now. Pence literally got all the way to the car and then refused to get in. That’s how close it came.

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-refused-car-secret-service-capitol
-riot-book-1610326

January 6th was the culmination of a premeditated plot to force the evacuation of the VP from the Capitol and stop the certification of the electoral college which would then force a contingent election that would result in Trump retaining the presidency. This scenario did not play out by chance.

The fact that Trump made so many moves to ensure his desired outcome within the 64 days between losing the election on Nov 3rd and the electoral college certification on Jan 6th indicates that this was all premeditated. The decision to have the rally at the exact time and place to stop the certification. Ensuring there would be plenty of people to protest and riot. The placement of pentagon leadership to delay the national guard deployment. Giving the rioters time to achieve the desired goal. His very public meeting to ask Pence to deny the electoral college. His tweet during the riot letting everyone know Pence didn’t do it so the rioters had a reason to turn on Pence. The setup of the Willard war room ahead of time for communications. The fact that Trump waited so long to do anything after the violence started.

After Nov 3rd Trump knew there was a very limited number of ways to retain the presidency with any shred of legal legitimacy. One way would be to get the secretaries of state in battleground states to change vote tallies in Trumps favor due to unproven voter fraud and declare Trump the winner of those states. He tried that, it didn’t work. Trump was then left with literally one single path to victory. Stop the certification of the electoral college and force a contingent election.

Trump knew Pence was the lynch pin in the electoral college certification process. All Trump needed was for Pence to evacuate the Capitol on Jan 6th and Trump knew that and did everything in his power to make that exact thing happen.

Trump and company put thousands of lives at risk. From civilians that were his own supporters, to law enforcement, to duly elected members of congress, to his own Vice President of the United States, all in a bid to remain in power.

https://www.justsecurity.org/74622/stopthesteal-timeline-of-social-med
ia-and-extremist-activities-leading-to-1-6-insurrection/

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/01/06/dc-protests-capitol-
riot-trump-supporters-electoral-college-stolen-election/6568305002/

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 3:45 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Aside from the fact that the VP merely presides over the Congressional session that certifies the election and can't intervene, Pence sent his letter to 'certify' (not contest) the election.

Quote:
In a letter sent to Congress, Vice President Mike Pence said once and for all that he does not believe he has the authority to decide “which electoral votes should be counted and which should not.” Pence wrote in the three-page letter that he will certify the election results on Wednesday, officially making President-elect Joe Biden the winner of the November presidential election. “When the Joint Session of Congress convenes today, I will do my duty to see to it that we open the certificates of the Electors of several states, we hear objections raised by Senators and Representatives, and we count the votes of the Electoral College for President and Vice President in a manner consistent with our Constitution, laws, and history. So Help Me God,” Pence wrote.

Quote:
The Electoral College formally selected Biden as the next U.S. President on December 14 when each state’s electors publicly cast their official votes. There is no mechanism for reversing these votes, and on Jan. 6, the House and Senate will meet to count those votes. Under the 12th Amendment, Pence is constitutionally mandated to preside over the joint session of Congress which will accomplish the task. ... Pence has absolutely no authority, constitutional or otherwise, to prevent ratification of the electoral college votes.

Any theory based on Pence is invalid.

OOPS.

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:01 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

You can't seem to answer the question, SECOND.

What did TRUMP do SPECIFICALLY that could be construed as some kind of coup?

Watch TV?

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Aside from the fact that the VP merely presides over the Congressional session that certifies the election and can't intervene, Pence sent his letter to 'certify' (not contest) the election.

Quote:
The Electoral College formally selected Biden as the next U.S. President on December 14 when each state’s electors publicly cast their official votes. There is no mechanism for reversing these votes, and on Jan. 6, the House and Senate will meet to count those votes. Under the 12th Amendment, Pence is constitutionally mandated to preside over the joint session of Congress which will accomplish the task. ... Pence has absolutely no authority, constitutional or otherwise, to prevent ratification of the electoral college votes.

Any theory based on Pence is invalid.

OOPS.

1kiki, you are mistaken. The only viable path to victory for Trump was to force a contingent election whereby Congress decides who is the next president and vice-president. (We’ve already done the math and the Republicans had the numbers to win. During a contingent election in the House, each state's delegation casts one en bloc vote to determine the president, rather than a vote from each representative. Republicans controlled more than 25 states so Trump wins a contingent election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election )

How does Trump force a contingent election?

Trump's only viable way was to make sure that the conditions required to certify the electoral college were not met. If Pence had run from the Capitol, then a contingent election is held, which Trump cannot lose because each state gets only one vote and Republicans control a majority of states.

What Is the Contingent Election and Voting Process?
https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u-s--elections-work/what-is-the-con
tingent-election-and-voting-process-.html

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 7:17 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

SECOND, if it was an attempted coup, then the National Guard and the DC police were in on it. The protesters weren't even armed. How did the police fail to control them?

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