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What Is The Government's Sales Pitch For The Vax, Post-Trump?

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I am hoping this will be a collection of pertinent links, and some narrative for cohesion.

To keep this factual, there are no MSN or CNN links allowed.



Let's start with the classic sales pitch for vaxxines.
(A). Vaccines seemed to be promoted as a way to innoculate a person against later contacting the harmful and freely dispersed disease/illness/bug and contracting a very serious illness.
It was understood that part of the vaccine was a portion of the bad bug itself.
The individual could reason that perhaps a vaccine before would be preferable to a bad illness later.

If I have misstated this, or left something out, please feel free to make corrections. Or even just disagree.




For at least a couple decades now, many mothers have had their children vaxxed in the hopes of giving their kids Autism. But that is a different matter.


(B). The Covid vax sales pitch.
To be fair, it is possible that part of this confusion was derived from too many vax options becoming available via Operation WARP SPEED, and the various new methods of trials, testing, Emergency certifications, etc. These were meant to bypass the red tape version (Fauci wanted to wait years before a vaccine was available - maybe because then he could keep control of his patents, instead of his profits being dispersed all over.)

Regardless, the Fauci\Biden sales pitch seems dictatorial, and not really sensible.

So, if you get the vax, then you are not innoculated against covid, but you will need a regular regiment of vax shots every few months or so.
Is this correct?
And that you will get the covid even after getting vaxxed? Right? They say unvaxxed folk are going to infect vaxxed folk, right? Isn't this what they have clearly stated?

I have not collected links of when either Fauci/Birx or post-Trump Admin folks have either said this, or said the opposite of this.
So this is where we likely need linkies.





I am sure there are other sales pitches, but I don't know the details. Please post what you think the government has said or not said.

Has Fauci/Bidne EVER presented a cohesive, comprehensive, consistent plan of attack for when you should get vaxxed, how often, and how long it will last?



Thanks for everybody's help in coalating this.

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



http://nypost.com/2021/04/19/trumps-urges-americans-to-get-vaccines-ta
kes-shot-at-jj-pause
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April 2021 exclusive FOX News interview:
Trump 3:37 "Our people don't want to take the vaccine. I don't know what that is."
Sean 3:42 "You encourage people to take it."
Trump 3:44 "I encourage people to take it. I do."




March 2021
Trump 0:13 "... I would recommend it and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me frankly ..."


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-covid-19-vaccine-democrats-coro
navirus

September 2021
Trump says Dems 'disparaged' COVID-19 vaccine while he was president: 'Now they wonder why' some are hesitant

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Democrats' message now is "Take this vaccine that we told you we wouldn't take if Trump told us to take it or starve to death".

Period.

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/biden-s-vaccine-mandate-is-coun
terproductive-and-likely-illegal-opinion/ar-AAOo0EP


It's bad for Democrats when there is such an increase in negative and/or critical articles written about them by Newsweek. You couldn't find a single one in the 4 years Trump was President.

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:28 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Has Fauci/Bidne EVER presented a cohesive, comprehensive, consistent plan of attack for when you should get vaxxed, how often, and how long it will last?



Thanks for everybody's help in coalating this.

President Biden's COVID-19 Action Plan:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Has Fauci/Bidne EVER presented a cohesive, comprehensive, consistent plan of attack for when you should get vaxxed, how often, and how long it will last?



Thanks for everybody's help in coalating this.

President Biden's COVID-19 Action Plan:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



That plan won't pass muster in the courts.

Uncle Joey*'s in trouble.

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:57 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That plan won't pass muster in the courts.

Uncle Joey*'s in trouble.

Not enough words for you? There is the 200 page long National Strategy for the COVID-19 Response and Pandemic Preparedness
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/National-Strateg
y-for-the-COVID-19-Response-and-Pandemic-Preparedness.pdf


200 pages too much for you? Then there is shorter version called:
The Biden-Harris plan to beat COVID-19
https://www.whitehouse.gov/priorities/covid-19/

What are the other priorities besides Covid-19? Covid-19 is not the only thing:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/priorities/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Don't need to read it.

It's not going to happen.

Quote:

What are the other priorities besides Covid-19? Covid-19 is not the only thing:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/priorities/



How about you do something about the 2.9 million illegal alien invaders you've let in since inauguration?

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:56 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't need to read it.

It's not going to happen.

Nobody can make you read. When I went to University of Texas in Austin, every class had textbooks to read. If a student didn't read, that did not bother the professor because the professor would be reading only a student's tests. If the student passed the tests, somehow-someway, without reading, the professor passed the student, even students that didn't read textbooks. It was an uncomplicated system. Real life can hurt you worse than a professor's failing grade if you fail its tests because you don't feel the need to read. But somehow-someway you might pass without even taking a reality test or knowing that reality tests exist. Good for you!

What is reality testing and why is it important?
https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/memberarticles/what-is-realit
y-testing-why-is-it-important


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, September 17, 2021 7:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't need to read it.

It's not going to happen.

Nobody can make you read. When I went to University of Texas in Austin, every class had textbooks to read. If a student didn't read, that did not bother the professor because the professor would be reading only a student's tests. If the student passed the tests, somehow-someway, without reading, the professor passed the student, even students that didn't read textbooks. It was an uncomplicated system. Real life can hurt you worse than a professor's failing grade if you fail its tests because you don't feel the need to read. But somehow-someway you might pass without even taking a reality test or knowing that reality tests exist. Good for you!

What is reality testing and why is it important?
https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/memberarticles/what-is-realit
y-testing-why-is-it-important


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I'm not your student, fuckwit.

Read to me how his OSHA mandate is going to get 2.9 Million Illegal Alien invaders vaccinated.

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Friday, September 17, 2021 10:12 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm not your student, fuckwit.

Read to me how his OSHA mandate is going to get 2.9 Million Illegal Alien invaders vaccinated.

Are there any immigration status restrictions on who can get vaccinated? No, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has stated that vaccines are available to anyone, including undocumented immigrants, regardless of their immigration status.
https://www.nilc.org/2021/04/12/immigrant-access-to-the-covid-19-vacci
nes
/

6ix, as a student you flunked/quit school, whichever way you want to describe what happened.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, September 17, 2021 5:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I was hoping to post pertinent info in the OP.

kiki, prior to Feb 2021, Trump has not been part of the government. I see he encourages vax, but private citizen ideas are not the topic of this thread.
6ix, are you so glued to msn that you cannot find a real link? The Democrat Party does not hold any specific Public Office in hte government.
second, I specified a consistent plan, not a WH webpage that gets scrubbed once per week. You made links to covid, but I saw nothing about a vax plan or sales pitch.



So, ummmmm. Hadn't thought of this, but is a forced mandate really a way to convince otherwise reasonable folk to get the vax? Seems more stick than carrot.

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Friday, September 17, 2021 5:53 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

second, I specified a consistent plan, not a WH webpage that gets scrubbed once per week. You made links to covid, but I saw nothing about a vax plan or sales pitch.



So, ummmmm. Hadn't thought of this, but is a forced mandate really a way to convince otherwise reasonable folk to get the vax? Seems more stick than carrot.

What do you want? An advertising program like the one against smoking?
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/index.htm

Republicans have been particularly cynical in their complaints about Biden’s failure to control the pandemic. They say he hasn’t done enough, yet they refuse to let him do more. Ronna McDaniel, the chair of the Republican National Committee, says the president “failed to shut down the virus” because he “failed to get people vaccinated.” At the same time, she says the RNC will sue to block the vaccine mandate. Gov. Doug Ducey of Arizona vows to “pursue every legal and administrative option” against the mandate, even as he blames Biden for a “plummeting rate of vaccinations.” Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee grouse that if Biden were serious about the mandate, he would have imposed it three months ago and would have extended it to smaller companies. They also argue that the mandate shouldn’t exist.

Some of these objections are more sensible than others. But all of them are insincere. You can’t reject mandates while complaining that voluntary vaccination has produced unacceptable results. You can’t argue that vaccination policies must be left to employers unless politicians disagree. You can’t sow distrust of vaccines and then plead that the vaccines should be optional because people don’t trust them. A party that plays such games is just a party of opposition.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/09/biden-vaccine-mandate-repu
blicans-dont-believe-own-arguments.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, September 17, 2021 8:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It'll backfire. It's fine.

He only did it to get the heat off his back for Afghanistan.

We won't even remember Covid when his sleeper cells wake up and start bombing citizens.

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Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Copied from another thread:


Quote:

Originally posted:


Quote:


Mayor De-Commie-O announcing that people who are vaxxed are going to get covid from other folk.

So, what was the purpose of GETTING the VAX in the first place?
If everybody were TOLD that once you get the Vax, you will get covid from anybody else, then what is the reason or purpose for getting the vax which sounds useless?



This sounds like the government position. If so, it would be included as Sales Pitch (B). Unless somebody can clarify a difference - then please do. I have not been able to follow the juggle of government statements on this subject.

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Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by secondbot:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
second, I specified a consistent plan, not a WH webpage that gets scrubbed once per week. You made links to covid, but I saw nothing about a vax plan or sales pitch.



So, ummmmm. Hadn't thought of this, but is a forced mandate really a way to convince otherwise reasonable folk to get the vax? Seems more stick than carrot.

What do you want? An advertising program like the one against smoking?

Really? You cannot comprehend a simple statement which encompasses why they need to force every American to get the vax that they have provided for you? Even though they seem to freely admit that it does not work, at all?
Why is this so confusing to Libtards?

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Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Is everybody agreeing, at this point, that the only government sales pitch is what I described as (B)? I had thought there might be different delineations or splinters of their pitch, but is this really the only pitch the government has?

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Monday, October 4, 2021 7:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Alright, I read a post lately, and now I cannot find it.

It was either kiki or Sigs, and they mentioned something along the lines of: The vax is not supposed to have 100% effectiveness in preventing a vaxxed person from getting covid. The vax has been shown to both prevent serious illness when the vaxxed do get the covid, and also to prevent death as a result of getting covid. Apparently both of these goals are working, are realized.
These results are assuming the person survives getting the vax.

Please, anybody correct the above statement if it is inaccurately paraphrasing what was posted. Or, better yet, link or specify the post.

If this is correctly paraphrased, then we can refer to this as sales pitch (C). If not corrected, I will add it to the OP.




So, if this is the intention, that getting the vax will not stop anybody from getting the covid ("everybody will get covid"), and it will help reduce the number of cases which become seriously ill, and also that it will prevent death as a result of getting the covid, then what is the problem with others not having the vax?

The vaxxed can expect to get covid, regardless of whether they encounter an unvaxxed.
The unvaxxed are clearly that way intentionally, and want to be.
Everybody who wants to be vaxxed already is.
So what is any remaining problem for letting everybody be free, mingle, live their lives?

I'm not seeing a problem.
Can anybody explain what the further problem is, at this point?



Also, the number of deaths under age 35 is practically nonexistent. So why restrict the most able-bodied from producing work product?

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Monday, October 4, 2021 9:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There is no problem other than what the government and media have manufactured.

Best case scenario, the vaccine is a worthless joke.

Worst case... well... I don't really want to think about that too much.

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 4:35 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sounds like the sales pitch has been to get infants vaxxed.

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 11:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Sounds like the sales pitch has been to get infants vaxxed.



The hourly reminder to get vaccinated is the other thing on the radio that drives me nuts.

They're not putting those ads on the radio to change any minds. If somebody has gone this long without getting vaccinated, there ain't nothing that's going to make them get jabbed... certainly not a radio ad.

No.

Those ads are simply put there to keep Covid in everybody's brain. Make sure that most folk are going to be reminded about Covid at least once per day on the way to or from work.


But yeah... The last few days I've heard ads telling people to get their babies vaxxed.

Any parent who would put that untested shit in their baby shouldn't be allowed to raise children.

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Saturday, July 2, 2022 3:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Sounds like the sales pitch has been to get infants vaxxed.

The hourly reminder to get vaccinated is the other thing on the radio that drives me nuts.

They're not putting those ads on the radio to change any minds. If somebody has gone this long without getting vaccinated, there ain't nothing that's going to make them get jabbed... certainly not a radio ad.

No.

Those ads are simply put there to keep Covid in everybody's brain. Make sure that most folk are going to be reminded about Covid at least once per day on the way to or from work.


But yeah... The last few days I've heard ads telling people to get their babies vaxxed.

Any parent who would put that untested shit in their baby shouldn't be allowed to raise children.

Technically, they would all qualify for The Darwin Award, as long as it ends their line in the gene pool.

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It took just minutes for Democratic Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson to invoke the Ku Klux Klan, slavery and lynching during Thursday’s opening statements of the Jan. 6 hearings. Committee chairman Thompson delivered the opening statement of the hearings investigating the Jan. 6 riot. “I am from a part of the country where people justified the actions of slavery, the Ku Klux Klan and lynching,” Thompson said. “I’m reminded of that dark history as I hear voices today try and justify the actions of the insurrectionists on January 6th, 2021.”



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