Russia Invades Ukraine. Again by captaincrunch

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, don't you ever get tired of repeating hate speech and propaganda,?

Or do you get your rocks off when you're officially allowed to spew your favorite emotion, which is hate?

Is it hate speech to repeatedly reference the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1917?

Signym, I am a little curious about what you think happened to 62 million political opponents who were never again seen alive once they fell into the hands of the Russians. The Ukrainians are aware of that political history, which is why they are not surrendering to the Russians.

Buy the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1917 from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder/dp/15600
08873/

Or download the book for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.pet/search.php?req=R.J.+Rummel

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's hate speech when you assign collective guilt and want to punish people who aren't guilty. Also, racism. If you don't accept the term racism, then extreme prejudice.

Signym, who is guilty in Russia of killing 62 million over past political disputes?

Average Ukrainians know these killings happened. Average Ukrainians aren't amateur lawyers and philosophers who carefully distribute the guilt for killing to various Russians according to culpability. Average Ukrainians don't want any Russians, no matter who they are or what their history is, killing Ukrainians over a political dispute about the border between Russia and Ukraine. That is why Ukrainian policy is to not surrender. Some do run away to the EU. Some fight. Very few surrender.

Meanwhile, somebody in Russia keeps threatening to nuke the US because of a political dispute over the border between Russia and Ukraine. The Russian narrative is that any one of a wide range of events that somebody in Russia dislikes will ensure “guaranteed escalation to the Third World War”. If somebody in Russia does nuke the US, the retaliatory guilt will indiscriminately spread out to millions of Russians who made no big decisions other than to not emigrate.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/20/opinions/russia-ukraine-us-patriot-miss
ile-defense-giles/index.html

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's hate speech when you assign collective guilt and want to punish people who aren't guilty. Also, racism. If you don't accept the term racism, then extreme prejudice.

SECOND: Signym, who is guilty in Russia of killing 62 million over past political disputes?

NOBODY ALIVE TODAY.

NOT PUTIN. NOT LAVROV. NOT SHOIGU. NOT SURAVIKIN.

Or, didn't you notice that FACT?

Punishing today's Russians for someting that happened nearly a century ago (or longer!) makes as much sense as punishing white, brown, yellow, and red taxpayers today for slavery that happened over 200 years ago. You can blame and punish people for what they themselves have done wrong, but not for the sins of their ancestors.

That's one form of collective punishment, and it's considered a war cime and crime against humanity.

THUGR: You're unbelievably stupid.

Signym, the Russians better tell your version of history to the Ukrainians and see if they can convince the Ukrainians that Russians didn’t kill 62 million in past political disputes and Russians won’t kill millions of Ukrainians in future political disputes over the location of the Russian/Ukrainian borders. If the Russians are convincing enough and can successfully sell their version of history to the world then the Ukrainians will surrender to the Russians.

By the way, if the Ukrainians want to surrender to the Russians the US will be as helpless to stop them just as the US was helpless to stop the Afghans from surrendering to the Taliban in 2021. All the US military aid to Afghanistan was totally ineffective once the Afghans gave up on the fight. All the US military aid to Ukraine will be totally ineffective once the Ukrainians give up. All it will take is Russians selling their version of history to Ukrainians.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 9:32 AM

You're the ones getting Ukrainians killed.

$68 Billion sent over there so far, and another $45 set to go after the Democrats pass the Spending Bill.

Your tax dollars at work. Killing Ukrainians.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 9:34 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're the ones getting Ukrainians killed.

$68 Billion sent over there so far, and another $45 set to go after the Democrats pass the Spending Bill.

Your tax dollars at work. Killing Ukrainians.

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By the way, if the Ukrainians want to surrender to the Russians the US will be as helpless to stop them just as the US was helpless to stop the Afghans from surrendering to the Taliban in 2021. All the US military aid to Afghanistan was totally ineffective once the Afghans gave up on the fight. All the US military aid to Ukraine will be totally ineffective once the Ukrainians give up. All it will take is Russians selling their version of history to Ukrainians.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 10:43 AM

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Russian citizens are "losing faith in Putin's propaganda narratives," according to a recent survey conducted by The Anti-Corruption Foundation (ACF), a Moscow-based non-profit group founded by imprisoned opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

Despite the current difficulties in polling the Russian public — which is threatened with fines and imprisonment in case of dissent or criticism of the country's military — the group claims that their surveys show that, ten months into the conflict, Russians are no longer buying into the Kremlin's idea that the country's war in Ukraine is going well.

Leonid Volkov, Navalny's chief of staff and chairman of the ACF, published the results of two recent surveys on Twitter conducted by the group in October and November, showing that the number of Russian citizens who believe that the course of the Kremlin's "military operation" in Ukraine is "rather successful" dropped from 23 percent to 14 percent in a month.

The number of Russians who believe the war to be "rather unsuccessful" so far grew from 10 to 14 percent from October to November. A vast majority of respondents — as many as 36 percent in October and 41 percent in November — chose to skip the question, while many others said they were "not sure" or declared it was "too early to judge."

"The majority is not yet ready to call it a failure, they are trying to avoid the uncomfortable truth ('too early to judge', 'not sure', 'prefer not to answer'), but what does it actually mean?" wrote Volkov.

"Kremlin's powerful propaganda machine works 24/7 to explain that the war is going successfully, according to Putin's wise plans. And they are clearly failing to sell this narrative. Only 1/7 of the respondents are still buying it!" he said.

"Does it mean that the other 6/7 are now Putin's enemies? Supporters of Navalny? Of course not! But they are finally not ready to blindly buy whatever Kremlin is trying to sell them. They are ready to listen to other stories!" he continued, adding that this is a crucial time to talk to the Russian public and offer them a different source of information.

"Putin's propaganda has reached the limit of its effectiveness," wrote Volkov. "It is enormously important to keep talking to Russians who are looking for alternative narratives."

As for the reason why the Russian public has lost faith in the Kremlin's propaganda, the ACF believes it has to do with the military draft ordered by President Vladimir Putin on September 21, when Russian troops were quickly losing territory in Ukraine.

Some 64 percent of respondents to the ACF survey in October said they were about to be mobilized, while 60 percent said so in November. Volkov thinks that being mobilized made these citizens "aware of what's actually going on" and led them to lose faith in that image of stability that the Kremlin has been promoting for itself for decades.

The number of respondents believing in the superiority of the Russian army has also dropped in recent months. According to Volkov, 35 percent of respondents to an August survey believed the quality of the Russian army to be above average, while in November only 20 percent of respondents believed the Moscow troops to be formed by "highly trained soldiers" armed with "advanced equipment."

Volkov admitted that the surveys must be approached cautiously, as responses from participants have dropped since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24.

"People are scared. The response rate has dropped. Pollsters should expect respondents to give 'socially acceptable' answers," Volkov said.

"There has to be a huge systematic error in our surveys, as we talk only to those who don't hang up when a pollster calls them from an unknown number. But we do it every month. And the systematic error should be the same every month. So, while the absolute numbers have to be taken into account with extreme caution, we still believe the trends we can see are reliable."

The group never asked the direct question of whether respondents supported the Kremlin's "special military operation" in Ukraine or not, as "one can't expect respondents to answer sincerely, as they are well aware of the liabilities a 'wrong' answer might yield," said Volkov.

There are signs too that the Kremlin's propaganda has changed in recent months, as the war in Ukraine has revealed itself to be a longer conflict than the quick invasion the Russian leadership likely expected back in February.

Even Putin's biggest allies and supporters have reframed their commentary of the "military operation" in Ukraine on Russian TV.

While Putin is never criticized directly, messaging around the conflict has now left space for the occasional criticism of the broader strategy applied by the Russian military in Ukraine and the recognition not everything is going smoothly on the battlefront.

That the mobilization of up to 300,000 reservists has triggered a potential political fallout of Putin's leadership has been shown by the unleashing of rare displays of criticism among the Russian public back in October when hundreds of thousands of Russians tried to flee the country to avoid conscription.

Reports that newly drafted troops were being sent to the front with little training or equipment are likely to have contributed to the widely reported low morale of Russian troops in Ukraine.

Newsweek reached out to the Kremlin for comment.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-propaganda-reached-limit-effectiveness-
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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're the ones getting Ukrainians killed.

$68 Billion sent over there so far, and another $45 set to go after the Democrats pass the Spending Bill.

Your tax dollars at work. Killing Ukrainians.

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By the way, if the Ukrainians want to surrender to the Russians the US will be as helpless to stop them just as the US was helpless to stop the Afghans from surrendering to the Taliban in 2021. All the US military aid to Afghanistan was totally ineffective once the Afghans gave up on the fight. All the US military aid to Ukraine will be totally ineffective once the Ukrainians give up. All it will take is Russians selling their version of history to Ukrainians.

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Nah. They're more propagandized than you are at this point, and they've got crossdressing, child rapist, Obama/CIA plant Z running the show over there since 2014 and helping funnel taxpayer dollars to Rayethon and friends and a good deal of both Democrat and Republican politicians making bank along the way.

The Ukrainians aren't done dying until the corrupt US politicians say they're done dying.

The only reason that Hunter isn't still making $60k per month working in Ukraine is because he couldn't keep his crack smoking and whoring pictures off the internet AND against all odds, his swiss-cheesed brained Daddy somehow became the front-runner in the 2020 primary.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:12 AM

Let me state this VERY clearly for idiot Ted and everybody else.

I have ZERO problems with Putin. I have ZERO problems with Russia or Russians.

I am not trolling this issue. The state of Russia and the Russian people have my FULL backing in this war by proxy.

The only other people I have sympathy for here are the Ukrainian citizens who are being maimed, killed and mindfucked by the propaganda machine while fighting a war that isn't theirs to fight.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 1:00 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let me state this VERY clearly for idiot Ted and everybody else.

I have ZERO problems with Putin. I have ZERO problems with Russia or Russians.

I am not trolling this issue. The state of Russia and the Russian people have my FULL backing in this war by proxy.

The only other people I have sympathy for here are the Ukrainian citizens who are being maimed, killed and mindfucked by the propaganda machine while fighting a war that isn't theirs to fight.

Jane Fonda damaged her reputation by supporting North Vietnam. 6ix, you don't have any reputation worth damaging, but your statement would damage it if you did have one.

The Complicated Story Behind Jane Fonda's 'Hanoi Jane' Nickname
https://web.archive.org/web/20191023201902/https://time.com/5116479/ja
ne-fonda-hanoi-jane-nickname/

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 1:36 PM

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Vladimir Putin believes Russia is not to blame for the war in Ukraine, adding both countries are "sharing a tragedy".

During a televised address with senior military officials, the Russian president said he continued to see Ukraine as a "brotherly nation".

He claimed the conflict was "the result of the policy of third countries".

During his address President Putin claimed the West had "brainwashed" post-Soviet republics, starting with Ukraine.

He said: "For years, we tried to build good-neighbourly relations with Ukraine, offering loans and cheap energy, but it did not work."

In his address President Putin continued: "There's nothing to accuse us of. We've always seen Ukrainians as a brotherly people and I still think so."

"What's happening now is a tragedy, but it's not our fault."

The address came as Ukrainian leader Volodmyr Zelensky arrived in Washington for his first visit outside of Ukraine in 10 months.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64055018

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 2:56 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

SECOND: YOU keep committing the same error, and flogging the same hate speech and, even after explanation, you STILL don't get it?? You're as stupid as THUGR!

"Russians" may have killed people- and BTW I don't accept the figures- but by that wasn't Putin.

"Germans" genocided 6 million Jews and other "undesirables" and killed 26 million Russians. Should Russia hate today's Germans for what some long-dead Getmans did 70+ years ago?

England ran roughshod over it's colonies, killing millions in the process of colonization, and leading to China's Hundred Years of Shame. Should Chinese hate modern Brits for what ended 70 years ago?

Should blacks hate whites because of slavery (thanks, BTW, to a lot of whites who got killed fighting on the Union side)?

Should we hate all Muslims because of what some Saudi (and USA)- fufunded radical Wahhabis do?

You, and everyone, should be responding that what TODAY'S INDIVIDUALS AND NATIONS DO, not to what some group or category or nation did in the past.

If blacks hate whites, it should be focused on TODAY'S prejudice, and on individuals and institutions who display that prejudice, not because of something that happened 200 years ago for which NOBODY TODAY is responsible.

If the world hates the USA for its long record of invading and destroying other nations and peoples, it should be focused on what people living TODAY, and extant institutions are doing TODAY, not because of what "somebody" did 100 years ago.

And BTW, the reason why I keep bringing up our genocidal history is not to blame people today for what happened before they were even born, or to make them feel guilty, but simply to provide an example and lesson to guide future behavior.

You flinging "Russian crimes" around and blaming today's Russians for long- ago crimes is ethically corrupt.

Blame Putin for what Putin is doing, but don't blame him for something he hadn't done.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 3:59 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Evidence In Nord Stream Sabotage Doesn't Point To Russia: Washington Post

OPPS.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 4:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let me state this VERY clearly for idiot Ted and everybody else.

I have ZERO problems with Putin. I have ZERO problems with Russia or Russians.

I am not trolling this issue. The state of Russia and the Russian people have my FULL backing in this war by proxy.

The only other people I have sympathy for here are the Ukrainian citizens who are being maimed, killed and mindfucked by the propaganda machine while fighting a war that isn't theirs to fight.
Jane Fonda damaged her reputation by supporting North Vietnam. 6ix, you don't have any reputation worth damaging, but your statement would damage it if you did have one.

The Complicated Story Behind Jane Fonda's 'Hanoi Jane' Nickname
https://web.archive.org/web/20191023201902/https://time.com/5116479/ja
ne-fonda-hanoi-jane-nickname/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

OH NOEZ!!!! My reputation would be damaged with American hating Democrats and American hating Media.

Get fucked you little worm.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 4:26 PM

THG

Wait for it comrade signym. Here it comes.

T

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 4:40 PM

THG

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's hate speech when you assign collective guilt and want to punish people who aren't guilty. Also, racism. If you don't accept the term racism, then extreme prejudice.

SECOND: Signym, who is guilty in Russia of killing 62 million over past political disputes?

NOBODY ALIVE TODAY.

NOT PUTIN. NOT LAVROV. NOT SHOIGU. NOT SURAVIKIN.

Or, didn't you notice that FACT?

Punishing today's Russians for someting that happened nearly a century ago (or longer!) makes as much sense as punishing white, brown, yellow, and red taxpayers today for slavery that happened over 200 years ago. You can blame and punish people for what they themselves have done wrong, but not for the sins of their ancestors.

That's one form of collective punishment, and it's considered a war cime and crime against humanity.

THUGR: You're unbelievably stupid.

I think it is you comrade who is unbelievably stupid aye?

T

List of countries
invaded and at war with
Soviet Union and Rus
since 1918

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 4:48 PM

You are unbelievably, irredeemably stupid, Ted.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 5:43 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

All of the nations the USA has invaded or bombed, only since WWII:

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China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Bosnia 1995
Iran 1998
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
Afghanistan 2001
Libya 2011
Iraq and Syria 2014 –
Somalia 2011 –
Iran 2020 –

I'm going to blame Biden* for all of them!

And you too, THUGR!

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 6:50 PM

THG

Having difficulties with other countries is a tragedy of life. Show me what countries in your list we tried to conquer, steal their land comrade, and rule.

T

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 6:53 PM

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Evidence In Nord Stream Sabotage Doesn't Point To Russia: Washington Post

OPPS.

Where's the link, Sig? You wouldn't be posting a "massaged" misleading quote by any chance would you?

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 7:43 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Evidence In Nord Stream Sabotage Doesn't Point To Russia: Washington Post

OPPS.

Where's the link, Sig? You wouldn't be posting a "massaged" misleading quote by any chance would you?

Fuck you, KRAPO/G/CAPN.. UNLIKE YOU I don't cast libelous insinuations.

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No conclusive evidence Russia is behind Nord Stream attack

World leaders were quick to blame Moscow for explosions along the undersea natural gas pipelines. But some Western officials now doubt the Kremlin was responsible.

...But now, after months of investigation, numerous officials privately say that Russia may not be to blame after all for the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines.

“There is no evidence at this point that Russia was behind the sabotage,” said one European official, echoing the assessment of 23 diplomatic and intelligence officials in nine countries interviewed in recent weeks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/21/russia-nor
d-stream-explosions/

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 8:09 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Having difficulties with other countries is a tragedy of life. Show me what countries in your list we tried to conquer, steal their land comrade, and rule.

T

All of them. WTF do you think we WERE doing in foreign countries?? "Defending our borders"???

And what we couldn't steal, we destroyed.
Blaming Biden* and YOU, THUGR. Especially since you stubbornly, irredeemably hang on to "stupid", even when you're shown facts that you could, and SHOULD, learn from.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 8:22 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Having difficulties with other countries is a tragedy of life. Show me what countries in your list we tried to conquer, steal their land comrade, and rule.

T
All of them. WTF do you think we WERE doing in foreign countries?? "Defending our borders"???

And what we couldn't steal, we destroyed.
Blaming Biden* and YOU, THUGR. Especially since you stubbornly, irredeemably hang on to "stupid", even when you're shown facts that you could, and SHOULD, learn from.

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You only need to do one thing or the other to get Ted to agree with whatever you say.

1. Put a "(D)" after your name.
2. Shit talk Trump, no matter where your political alliances are or no matter how fucking evil you are.

Period.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: YOU keep committing the same error, and flogging the same hate speech and, even after explanation, you STILL don't get it?? You're as stupid as THUGR!

"Russians" may have killed people- and BTW I don't accept the figures- but by that wasn't Putin.

"Germans" genocided 6 million Jews and other "undesirables" and killed 26 million Russians. Should Russia hate today's Germans for what some long-dead Getmans did 70+ years ago?

England ran roughshod over it's colonies, killing millions in the process of colonization, and leading to China's Hundred Years of Shame. Should Chinese hate modern Brits for what ended 70 years ago?

Should blacks hate whites because of slavery (thanks, BTW, to a lot of whites who got killed fighting on the Union side)?

Should we hate all Muslims because of what some Saudi (and USA)- fufunded radical Wahhabis do?

You, and everyone, should be responding that what TODAY'S INDIVIDUALS AND NATIONS DO, not to what some group or category or nation did in the past.

If blacks hate whites, it should be focused on TODAY'S prejudice, and on individuals and institutions who display that prejudice, not because of something that happened 200 years ago for which NOBODY TODAY is responsible.

If the world hates the USA for its long record of invading and destroying other nations and peoples, it should be focused on what people living TODAY, and extant institutions are doing TODAY, not because of what "somebody" did 100 years ago.

And BTW, the reason why I keep bringing up our genocidal history is not to blame people today for what happened before they were even born, or to make them feel guilty, but simply to provide an example and lesson to guide future behavior.

You flinging "Russian crimes" around and blaming today's Russians for long- ago crimes is ethically corrupt.

Blame Putin for what Putin is doing, but don't blame him for something he hadn't done.

If a majority of Ukrainians were convinced by your sophistry, Signym, the war would already be over. The Ukrainians are similarly unconvinced by Putin's speech from today: Vladimir Putin believes Russia is not to blame for the war in Ukraine, adding both countries are "sharing a tragedy". During a televised address with senior military officials, the Russian president said he continued to see Ukraine as a "brotherly nation". He claimed the conflict was "the result of the policy of third countries".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64055018

But keep on writing, Signym. Maybe someday with sharper arguments, you will finally persuade somebody of something and then the war will be over with Russia victorious. But I would bet that Russia will eventually lose after destroying hundreds of billions of dollars, maybe trillions!, in Ukrainian real estate. Ukrainians aren't going to surrender to Russia after Russia caused so much damage to Ukraine. The Ukrainians are feeling ill-will toward Russia because of what Russia has done now and in the far past. Pretty words won't change that feeling.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 9:47 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

1/3 or more Ukrainians have already voted to join Russia. The population of Karkhiv is ethnically Russian as is half the population of Odessa.

As I've posted a couple dozen times by now, Ukraine is a divided nation. It could have stuck together as single entity if western Ukrainians hadn't decided to outlaw the Russian language and ethnically cleanse eastern and southern Ukraine

You make the same mistake with Ukrainians that you do with Russians, or Republicans, or any other category you choose .. you lump them all together and INACCURATELY assign characteristics, beliefs, faults etc to everyone in that group.

You pretend to be a hardcore realist, but -in reality- you're just spewing hatred, propaganda, self-justification and unrealistic "notions" about what the world is and how it works.

Yanno, come to think of it, if you were just randomly spewing crap, you'd think that you'd be right once in a while. How do you manage to be so wrong, so often?

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 9:52 PM

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Evidence In Nord Stream Sabotage Doesn't Point To Russia: Washington Post

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No conclusive evidence Russia is behind Nord Stream attack

Yep, that looks like a massaging of the quote to me.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2022 9:53 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 8:33 AM

Child-rapist Zelensky: Ukraine will not back down.

Also, Child-rapist Zelensky: Gimmie money.

Z ain't nothing but a Twitch THOT.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 8:50 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
1/3 or more Ukrainians have already voted to join Russia. The population of Karkhiv is ethnically Russian as is half the population of Odessa.

As I've posted a couple dozen times by now, Ukraine is a divided nation. It could have stuck together as single entity if western Ukrainians hadn't decided to outlaw the Russian language and ethnically cleanse eastern and southern Ukraine

You make the same mistake with Ukrainians that you do with Russians, or Republicans, or any other category you choose .. you lump them all together and INACCURATELY assign characteristics, beliefs, faults etc to everyone in that group.

You pretend to be a hardcore realist, but -in reality- you're just spewing hatred, propaganda, self-justification and unrealistic "notions" about what the world is and how it works.

Yanno, come to think of it, if you were just randomly spewing crap, you'd think that you'd be right once in a while. How do you manage to be so wrong, so often?

I will make a prediction: the war over where the border is between Ukraine and Russia will continue indefinitely, but most of the real estate damage will definitely be inside the old 2012 borders of Ukraine. Another prediction is that the following will remain true:

Forcible Transfer of Ukrainians to Russia
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/09/01/forcible-transfer-ukrainians-russi
a

Punitive, Abusive Screening of Fleeing Civilians

Russian and Russian-affiliated forces have been forcibly transferring Ukrainian civilians, including those fleeing hostilities, to the Russian Federation or areas of Ukraine occupied by Russia, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.

The 71-page report, “‘We Had No Choice’: ‘Filtration’ and the Crime of Forcibly Transferring Ukrainian Civilians to Russia,” documents the transfers of Ukrainian civilians. The transfers are a serious violation of the laws of war that constitute war crimes and potential crimes against humanity. Russian and Russian-affiliated authorities also subjected thousands of Ukrainian citizens to a form of compulsory, punitive, and abusive security screening called “filtration.”

https://www.hrw.org/report/2022/09/01/we-had-no-choice/filtration-and-
crime-forcibly-transferring-ukrainian-civilians

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 9:59 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Child-rapist Zelensky: Ukraine will not back down.

Also, Child-rapist Zelensky: Gimmie money.

Z ain't nothing but a Twitch THOT.

6ix, you are hallucinating, imagining things. Instead, imagine being Putin, who just yesterday visited one of his very few allies, the president of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, and seeing the politically polarized United States come together to embrace Zelensky.

Imagine Putin hearing Biden say, as he did in a press conference at the White House after speaking with Zelensky for more than two hours, “And it was very important for him and everyone else to see that President Zelenskyy and I are united, two countries together, to make sure he cannot succeed…. “It’s important for Putin to know that we are going to do everything in our power – everything in our power to see that Zelensky succeeds.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/opinions/volodymyr-zelensky-address-con
gress-putin-ghitis/index.html

Zelenskyy defines "success" as pushing the Russian Army outside of the 2012 border between Ukraine and Russia. There are secondary goals such as Russia paying for the rebuilding of structures it destroyed and Russia returning the Ukrainian prisoners it has taken and Russians being convicted for their war crimes against dead Ukrainians.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:45 AM

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For comparison with Signym and 6ix on the Ukraine/Russia border war, here is what those two malcontents wrote about the US government:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65442&mid=11667
92#1166792

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This pisses me off. The establishment wing of both parties merrily shoveling Americans into a meat grinder.

People should be outraged.

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People ARE outraged.

Sub-human's who can no longer think for themselves like Ted cheerlead the wars abroad and the death of Democracy back home.

The Democratic Party is pure shit just like the fucking Bushite NeoCons.

Our entire government needs an enema.

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If all the corrupt were purged from government and DC , it would be a ghost town. There would probably be three people left in Congress, the WH would be empty except for janitors, the winds would be whistling diwn an empty "K" street. Langley would be mostly empty, at least half of the DC office of the FBI would be gone. The State Department would be an eerie place, the Pentagon would be mostly empty, and DHS and DOJ would be gutted.

If any place deserved the Sodom and Gomorrah treatment, it's our national government. Mostly corrupt quislings lining their pockets at everyone else's expense

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:15 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
For comparison with Signym and 6ix on the Ukraine/Russia border war, here is what those two malcontents wrote about the US government:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65442&mid=11667
92#1166792
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This pisses me off. The establishment wing of both parties merrily shoveling Americans into a meat grinder.

People should be outraged.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

People ARE outraged.

Sub-human's who can no longer think for themselves like Ted cheerlead the wars abroad and the death of Democracy back home.

The Democratic Party is pure shit just like the fucking Bushite NeoCons.

Our entire government needs an enema.

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If all the corrupt were purged from government and DC , it would be a ghost town. There would probably be three people left in Congress, the WH would be empty except for janitors, the winds would be whistling diwn an empty "K" street. Langley would be mostly empty, at least half of the DC office of the FBI would be gone. The State Department would be an eerie place, the Pentagon would be mostly empty, and DHS and DOJ would be gutted.

If any place deserved the Sodom and Gomorrah treatment, it's our national government. Mostly corrupt quislings lining their pockets at everyone else's expense

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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

And just imagine! The EU is worse, and Ukraine even worse than that!
Very few of the west's leaders represent the interests of their own citizens.

Did you listen to the video I just posted in this thread? There are no eggs in British supermarkets. People aren't sending Xmas cards bc there's a rail atrike and postal strike, and a health services strike upcoming, thanks to inflation. In a tony part of London, the commenter has little electricity and no hot water bc a pipe burst somewhere and shorted part of the grid. He's had to send his family away but has to stay in home otherwise squatters will move in. Meanwhile, Rishi Sunak (and EU warhawks like Ursula van der Crazy and spineless donothings like Scholz) are INVISIBLE. These puppets of the USA deep state fear the wrath of the people but can't change their policies bc they only cling on to power and MONEY by the grace of the deep state and its backers.

In Kiev's Ukraine it's far, far worse. Men are sent en masse into a physiczl meat grinder and most of the western-controlled side is without electricity and water. But not to worry! The leadership is doing fine, thank you!

How many of our politicians are looking out for OUR best interests?

I heard an interesting phrase which describes the situation perfectly:

In China, you can't change the government but you can change policy.
In the west, you can change government but you can't change policy.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:35 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And just imagine! The EU is worse, and Ukraine even worse than that!
Very few of the west's leaders represent the interests of their own citizens.

Did you listen to the video I just posted in this thread?

This video? Yes:

Quote:
There are no eggs in British supermarkets. People aren't sending Xmas cards bc there's a rail atrike and postal strike, and a health services strike upcoming, thanks to inflation. In a tony part of London, the commenter has little electricity and no hot water bc a pipe burst somewhere and shorted part of the grid. He's had to send his family away but has to stay in home otherwise squatters will move in. Meanwhile, Rishi Sunak (and EU warhawks like Ursula van der Crazy and spineless donothings like Scholz) are INVISIBLE. These puppets of the USA deep state fear the wrath of the people but can't change their policies bc they only cling on to power and MONEY by the grace of the deep state and its backers.

In Kiev's Ukraine it's far, far worse. Men are sent en masse into a physiczl meat grinder and most of the western-controlled side is without electricity and water. But not to worry! The leadership is doing fine, thank you!

How many of our politicians are looking out for OUR best interests?

I heard an interesting phrase which describes the situation perfectly:

In China, you can't change the government but you can change policy.
In the west, you can change government but you can't change policy.

Calling Signym and 6ix "malcontents" doesn't fully describe what is malfunctioning about them.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 11:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
1/3 or more Ukrainians have already voted to join Russia. The population of Karkhiv is ethnically Russian as is half the population of Odessa.

As I've posted a couple dozen times by now, Ukraine is a divided nation.

Yes, but not that divided. Every region in Ukraine voted to be independent of Russia, including Crimea:

"Ethnic Russians" - means nothing. Plenty of American "ethnic Brits" wanted independence from Britain back in 1775. 55% of ethnic Russians in Ukraine voted for Ukrainian independence in 1991 by the way.

Quote:
if western Ukrainians hadn't decided to outlaw the Russian language

The Ukrainian president is a Russian speaker - did that fact escape you? Your propaganda points were shit back in 2014; now they're just laughable.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:18 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by K2PO:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
1/3 or more Ukrainians have already voted to join Russia. The population of Karkhiv is ethnically Russian as is half the population of Odessa.

As I've posted a couple dozen times by now, Ukraine is a divided nation.

Yes, but not that divided. Every region in Ukraine voted to be independent of Russia, including Crimea:

"Ethnic Russians" - means nothing. Plenty of American "ethnic Brits" wanted independence from Britain back in 1775. 55% of ethnic Russians in Ukraine voted for Ukrainian independence in 1991 by the way.

Quote:
if western Ukrainians hadn't decided to outlaw the Russian language

The Ukrainian president is a Russian speaker - did that fact escape you? Your propaganda points were shit back in 2014; now they're just laughable.

Which is why it's such a shame that the USA and EU forced a coup in 2014 and polarized society.
Don't forget, a majority of Ukrainians voted for Yanukovich, too.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Child-rapist Zelensky: Ukraine will not back down.

Also, Child-rapist Zelensky: Gimmie money.

Z ain't nothing but a Twitch THOT.
6ix, you are hallucinating, imagining things. Instead, imagine being Putin, who just yesterday visited one of his very few allies, the president of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, and seeing the politically polarized United States come together to embrace Zelensky.

Imagine Putin hearing Biden say, as he did in a press conference at the White House after speaking with Zelensky for more than two hours, “And it was very important for him and everyone else to see that President Zelenskyy and I are united, two countries together, to make sure he cannot succeed…. “It’s important for Putin to know that we are going to do everything in our power – everything in our power to see that Zelensky succeeds.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/opinions/volodymyr-zelensky-address-con
gress-putin-ghitis/index.html

Zelenskyy defines "success" as pushing the Russian Army outside of the 2012 border between Ukraine and Russia. There are secondary goals such as Russia paying for the rebuilding of structures it destroyed and Russia returning the Ukrainian prisoners it has taken and Russians being convicted for their war crimes against dead Ukrainians.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Zelensky defines success as grifting US taxpayer dollars. He will not be satisfied until he's syphoned a Trillion dollars from us.

Fuck Zelensky. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck NATO. Fuck the EU. Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck Democrats. Fuck NeoCons. And Fuck You.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:39 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Zelensky defines success as grifting US taxpayer dollars. He will not be satisfied until he's syphoned a Trillion dollars from us.

Fuck Zelensky. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck NATO. Fuck the EU. Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck Democrats. Fuck NeoCons. And Fuck You.

Don't use the word "us". Ukraine isn't costing you anything because you don't pay any taxes. Neither does Trump, but that is a different story because he cheats and you don't have an income.

The committee questioned the legitimacy of some of Trump's deductions, including one for $916 million.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/21/former-us-president-trump-pa
id-no-income-tax-in-2020-report

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 12:59 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Zelensky defines success as grifting US taxpayer dollars. He will not be satisfied until he's syphoned a Trillion dollars from us.

Fuck Zelensky. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck NATO. Fuck the EU. Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck Democrats. Fuck NeoCons. And Fuck You.
Don't use the word "us". Ukraine isn't costing you anything because you don't pay any taxes. Neither does Trump, but that is a different story because he cheats and you don't have an income.

The committee questioned the legitimacy of some of Trump's deductions, including one for $916 million.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/21/former-us-president-trump-pa
id-no-income-tax-in-2020-report

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIX pay taxes, SECOND. Most Americans do. And Zelenskiy is costing me plenty. I'd rather spend the money defending OUR border, wouldn't you?

Or are you just another quisling who hates Americans?

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:20 PM

Our border is in shambles and Democrat idiots want to keep pissing money away so Zelensky can launder it for Democrat politicians and Rayethon.

With inflation this high, we're ALL paying for this, whether or not we pay Federal taxes.

We're all also going to be paying a lot more in property taxes next year because of the insane home price inflation that occurred last year as well, even though by the time we pay them next year the housing market will be in the middle of crashing.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 2:50 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SIX pay taxes, SECOND. Most Americans do. And Zelenskiy is costing me plenty. I'd rather spend the money defending OUR border, wouldn't you?

Or are you just another quisling who hates Americans?

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Our border is in shambles and Democrat idiots want to keep pissing money away so Zelensky can launder it for Democrat politicians and Rayethon.

With inflation this high, we're ALL paying for this, whether or not we pay Federal taxes.

We're all also going to be paying a lot more in property taxes next year because of the insane home price inflation that occurred last year as well, even though by the time we pay them next year the housing market will be in the middle of crashing.

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Signym and 6ix, your optimum political move is to join a militia overthrowing the US government. Secondary political moves would be to stop paying taxes and start buying guns and ammo. Putin would agree that is the right move for you because the same happened in portions of Ukraine with majority Russian speakers. Go for it! Or vote for Trump in 2024, if you aren't feeling adventurous enough for a civil war. Trump will fight that war for you so that you can comfortably watch it all on TV.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 3:56 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SIX pay taxes, SECOND. Most Americans do. And Zelenskiy is costing me plenty. I'd rather spend the money defending OUR border, wouldn't you?

Or are you just another quisling who hates Americans?

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Our border is in shambles and Democrat idiots want to keep pissing money away so Zelensky can launder it for Democrat politicians and Rayethon.

With inflation this high, we're ALL paying for this, whether or not we pay Federal taxes.

We're all also going to be paying a lot more in property taxes next year because of the insane home price inflation that occurred last year as well, even though by the time we pay them next year the housing market will be in the middle of crashing.

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Signym and 6ix, your optimum political move is to join a militia overthrowing the US government. Secondary political moves would be to stop paying taxes and start buying guns and ammo. Putin would agree that is the right move for you because the same happened in portions of Ukraine with majority Russian speakers. Go for it! Or vote for Trump in 2024, if you aren't feeling adventurous enough for a civil war. Trump will fight that war for you so that you can comfortably watch it all on TV.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SECOND, FONENTING INSURRECTION.

Yep, just like I thought: a quisling who hates America, Americans, and the Constitution.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:01 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Meanwhile, you're so busy posting bullshit, SECOND, that you're missing the big news

Poland reportedly creating 300,000 man army.

Putin, Shoigu, and Lavrov meet with Lukashenko in Belarus.
Putin meets with the governors and security forces of Lugansk and Dontesk.
Putin meets with his top military and security staff.
Russia creating new divisions and reorienting strategy*

I think Russia is preparing for overt war with NATO, if NATO forces escalate.

* I heard somewhere that the Russian military consensus is that their BTGs are too heavy-weapon oriented and not enough infantry, and that they're consolidating their BTGs back into divisions. Not sure if that's true, but it does address one of my ??? about the Russian military.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 4:37 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND, FONENTING INSURRECTION.

Yep, just like I thought: a quisling who hates America, Americans, and the Constitution. Meanwhile, you're so busy posting bullshit, SECOND, that you're missing the big news

Poland reportedly creating 300,000 man army.

Putin, Shoigu, and Lavrov meet with Lukashenko in Belarus.
Putin meets with the governors and security forces of Lugansk and Dontesk.
Putin meets with his top military and security staff.
Russia creating new divisions and reorienting strategy*

I think Russia is preparing for overt war with NATO, if NATO forces escalate.

* I heard somewhere that the Russian military consensus is that their BTGs are too heavy-weapon oriented and not enough infantry, and that they're consolidating their BTGs back into divisions. Not sure if that's true, but it does address one of my ??? about the Russian military.

I look forward to that future where the angry poor white trash of Russia and of the US, the Trumptards, attempt to overthrow the West. It will be great for TV news ratings.

Moscow said Kyiv and its Western allies are “set for a long confrontation with Russia” following President Volodymyr Zelensky’s momentous visit to Washington. Russia’s foreign ministry condemned what it called the “monstrous crimes” of the “regime in Kyiv,” after Pres. Biden promised more military support to Ukraine. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said that no matter how much military support the West provides to the Ukrainian government, “they will achieve nothing.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/22/europe/zelensky-biden-kremlin-reaction-
russia-ukraine-intl/index.html

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 6:34 PM

We've got all the guns, Second.

You go ahead and make the first move.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We've got all the guns, Second.

You go ahead and make the first move.

Trump's words: "If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." They don't have a country anymore because people like 6ix and Signym wouldn't make the first move. Too bad for the Trumptards but what are they gonna do about it? Maybe blowup a government building but probably they will do nothing . . . other than run their mouths and cheat on their taxes since that's what Trump does.

Five red flags in Trump's taxes
The Joint Committee on Taxation says that there are multiple issues that the IRS should be examining.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/22/red-flags-trump-taxes-0007519
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Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:44 PM

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SECOND, daring people to insurrection?

Tsk tsk

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 8:06 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Which is why it's such a shame that the USA and EU forced a coup in 2014 and polarized society.
Don't forget, a majority of Ukrainians voted for Yanukovich, too.

Another bad take. As you point out, in 2010, 49% of Ukrainians voted in a pro-Russian president. But in the 2019 elections only 16% of Ukrainians voted for pro-Russian candidates.

Ukrainians polarised by the 2014 revolution? No, the opposite. Ukrainians have never been more united in their desire for freedom and separation from Russia.

And where do Ukrainians stand now, in 2022?

Quote:
Nearly 90% of Ukrainians oppose territorial concessions to Russia - poll
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nearly-90-ukrainians-oppose-terri
torial-concessions-russia-poll-2022-09-15/

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 9:03 PM

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Even you don't believe your own bullshit, KPO /G /CAPN.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:37 PM

R-2-Cuck-Poo never even knew Ukraine was a country until early this year.

He is nothing without his smartphone.

Speaking of which, I bet he's posting under an alt account right now because he upgraded to the new iPhone and botched the transfer.

Whoops. Should have Googled that, half-wit.

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Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:56 PM

Ah, Six, the hilarity of your cold-reads reminds me of the hilarity of your predictions.

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Friday, December 23, 2022 12:11 AM

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Ah, Six, the hilarity of your cold-reads reminds me of the hilarity of your predictions.

I've gotten two predictions wrong since I sobered up. The 2020 and 2022 elections. I did not have any idea just how good the Democrats got at stealing elections through en masse mail-in fraud voting and unverifiable mass drop box ballot harvesting. Something you're going to regret cheerleading in 2024 now that Republicans have made it fully known that rather than trying to fight these things they are now just going to cheat better than Democrats do (which is something you always say they do anyhow, right?)

So... Where's your alternate handle bitch? Log into it now and prove to me that you didn't lose it. If you haven't noticed, you won't be able to recover it anymore.

Don't lose this one.

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