Punishing Russia With Sanctions by THG

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Ukraine is not Invasion. Is "Special Military Operation."

January 6th is not Insurrection. Is "Legitimate Political Discourse."

See the similarities?

Russia Makes Calling Ukraine War an 'Invasion' a Criminal Offense

Domestic media in Russia are under a tight leash as to how they report the war in Ukraine with words like "invasion" or "assault" prohibited.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-criminal-offense-
duma-1684810

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Monday, March 14, 2022 9:50 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I have to point out what a dunb-ass you are.

The buildings that were targeted are NOT houses or schools or apartments, and DEFINITELY not hospitals.

They are large, single story flat-roofed commercial buildings. one looks like a warehouse.

So is ok to bomb, da?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you look at the paking lots, they are EMPTY. Clearly not being used for their intended purpose.

People generally don't go shopping when bombs are dropping. Good slogan though: "Extended hours during Invasion! Plenty of Parking!"

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks to the cloud cover which looks like drifting smoke (but isn't) and the fact that the photos were clearly taken in winter when everything looks brown, it looks like there is extensive damage (but there isn't).

Yep - it's that time of year over there. You accidentally got one right.

So... just to have you on the record... you really don't think Russia is bombing Ukraine?

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Monday, March 14, 2022 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Originally posted by THG:

Russia is done. Its citizens have followed Putin down a rabbit hole of doom. Signym will post all manner of bullshit about Russia surviving this, but it won’t. Everyday we’ll see on the news how Russia is committing war crime after war crime and heading not just into a recession, but a full-blown depression. Putin and therefore Russia, is done, over, kaput. Broken and useless; no longer working or effective.

Time for Signym's veil of tears followed by my many replies of, I told you so.

Uh huh.

Is this another "endless clock" prediction that never seems to "get there"?
/snicker

Oh BTW it's "vale", (as in "valley") not veil.

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"Vale of tears" (Latin: vallis lacrimarum) is a Christian phrase referring to the tribulations of life that Christian doctrine says are left behind only when one leaves the world and enters Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_of_tears

Random People Start Seizing Properties Belonging to Russian Oligarchs and Putin’s Daughter

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/random-people-start-seizing-prope
rties-belonging-to-russian-oligarchs-and-putin-s-daughter/ar-AAV2hdh?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putin's are being run out of town. Actually, I should say towns. I told you so...

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Monday, March 14, 2022 9:52 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by THG:
Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putins are being run out of town. I told you so...

The oceans of stupid that she posts - amazing. Retirement is driving her battier than usual.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 9:56 AM

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
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Originally posted by THG:

Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putins are being run out of town. I told you so...

The oceans of stupid that she posts - amazing. Retirement is driving her battier than usual.

This thing is, is that while she posts the bullshit she posts, you and I know she knows the truth. And the truth has to be driving her crazy, absolutely crazy.

T

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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:00 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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So... just to have you on the record... you really don't think Russia is bombing Ukraine?

You really think everyone is so stupid that they can't see the rhetorical trick that you're playing? That's a pretty obvious one!

So, just to have you on record ... is the DNC not paying you enough to lie and libel, CAPON?

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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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So... just to have you on the record... you really don't think Russia is bombing Ukraine?
You really think everyone is so stupid that they can't see the rhetorical trick that you're playing? That's a pretty obvious one!

So, just to have you on record ... is the DNC not paying you enough to lie and libel, CAPON?

Signym, for every lie you post there are a hundred videos proving you to be a liar.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:09 AM

Russia is continuing its assault on Ukraine, including the apparent shelling of residential neighborhoods. Ukrainian President Zelensky said the country would "never forgive" the deaths of civilians

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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I noticed your video is caveated with "Seems to be" which is a big red flag that says "This information is likely not true".

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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:52 AM

There's nothing I've seen that couldn't have been done with far less than the production budget of your standard Marvel movie.

And we've got what we think is an unlimited printing press and have already committed billions to this new bullshit of the week.

They've given us no reason to believe any of what they say is true.

And you idiots sound just like John Bolton and the rest of the Neo-Con warhawk pieces of shit right now, so I'm not going to be losing any sleep.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I noticed your video is caveated with "Seems to be" which is a big red flag that says "This information is likely not true".

The video is from CBS news asshole.

I’ve claimed Signym to be many hateful things over the years due to the lies she has posted on behalf of Putin and other authoritarian leaders. While she was doing this she carpet bombed the Democracies of the world. By the way, she choses to live in a Democracy.

Now, she is doing it while Putin is massacring civilians in the Ukraine just as she did when he bombed hospitals in Syria. Massacre is the word the Pope just used to describe what Putin was doing. Nothing Signym is saying is true and she has not condemned Putin at all.

There is nothing she can say about anything she perceives to be immoral ever again. This is who I have said she is since I first posted at firefly fans. Again, I and others like G have told all posting here for years this is who she is. And man oh man were we correct. What a piece of shit she is.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I noticed your video is caveated with "Seems to be" which is a big red flag that says "This information is likely not true".

The video is from CBS news asshole.

So what?

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Now, she is doing it while Putin is massacring civilians in the Ukraine just as she did when he bombed hospitals in Syria.

Speaking of Syria. Remember the "Slaughter in Syria"?

They didn't even have to have a production budget for that one. All they had to do was steal an old video from a small youtube channel.

OPPS!

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There is nothing she can say about anything she perceives to be immoral ever again. This is who I have said she is since I first posted at firefly fans. Again, I and others like G have told all posting here for years this is who she is. And man oh man were we correct. What a piece of shit she is.

All Sigs has done so far is proven she has some critical thinking skills and she's not a fucking muppet like you.

How many times are you going to keep falling for this shit, Ted?

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Monday, March 14, 2022 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Oh my god, I used the incorrect spelling of a word that is pronounced the same as another word meaning something else. What shall I do what shall I do? Too funny…

It looks as though the Putins are being run out of town. I told you so...

The oceans of stupid that she posts - amazing. Retirement is driving her battier than usual.

It’s the same with Jack. He is defending Putin as well. And my god he has no idea how stupid he looks as he posts against, all the posts about what Putin is doing. The guy is living on another planet.

T

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Monday, March 14, 2022 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
It’s the same with Jack. He is defending Putin as well. And my god he has no idea how stupid he looks as he posts against, all the posts about what Putin is doing. The guy is living on another planet.

I've never once defended Putin.

All I've done is called out our Lying Legacy Media lying again, and told you idiots who keep buying the lies over and over and over and over again that you are idiots.

The only reason that things seem to continue to get worse in the world is because there are just so many of you. So, so many... They wouldn't be able to get away with the constant lying if everyone on the planet was intelligent.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 1:09 PM

IMF chief expects "deep recession" in Russia due to sanctions

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Monday, March 14, 2022 1:12 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
T

IMF chief expects "deep recession" in Russia due to sanctions

Normal people who have nothing to do with this will starve and die.

And you love it.

I hope you never have to go through circumstances like this which are completely out of your control.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 5:03 PM

They haven't become, they always have been a terrorist force.

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Adm. Stavridis: Russia’s Military Has Become ‘A Terrorist Force’

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Monday, March 14, 2022 7:44 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
They haven't become, they always have been a terrorist force.

Much like the word Nazi, the word Terrorist has lost any meaning it once had, Ted.

January 6th hoax = Terrorists. Peaceful Canadian truckers = Terrorists. Concerned Parents not happy with CRT being taught in school = Terrorists.

When everybody's a terrorist, nobody is a terrorist.

Keep eating shit Ted.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 8:19 PM

This is just way too funny. Hey signym, I told you so...

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Protesters occupy mansion suspected of belonging to Russian oligarch

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Monday, March 14, 2022 8:30 PM

Oh no sig, Russia can't get it done. I told you so. They are the army that can't shoot straight. Ater years of hearing your and kiki's bullshit about how good they are.

Comrade, can you see me laughing. Because I am.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:49 PM

Get some help Ted.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 1:04 PM

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Can Germany Break Up With Russian Gas?
March 15, 2022, 12:35 p.m. ET

Germany is one of the world’s great trading nations. In 2019, it imported $1.2 trillion worth of goods from all over the world. Only about 2 percent of that total came from Russia. In fact, the Russian Federation, with roughly 144 million people, was only slightly more important in German trade than Ireland, with around five million people. Ordinarily, then, you wouldn’t expect a disruption of economic relations with Russia to have a big effect on the German economy.

Unfortunately, Russia is a key supplier of one good Germany will find it hard to replace: natural gas. Nearly all of Germany’s natural gas consumption is imported via pipelines, and about 55 percent of its gas comes from Russia.

This situation should never have been allowed to happen; successive U.S. administrations going all the way back to that of Ronald Reagan have warned Germany not to let itself become so dependent on a despotic regime. (I witnessed some of those discussions during my own brief stint in government, in 1982-83.) But here we are. And while democratic nations have imposed a wide range of economic sanctions on the Putin regime, restrictions on Russian gas sales remain conspicuously absent from the list.

Yet Russian atrocities — and, to be honest, the surprising incompetence of Russia’s vaunted military, as the expected blitzkrieg enters its 20th day of apparent stalemate — have been rapidly changing the political calculus of the West’s response. Three weeks ago, it seemed inconceivable that German politicians would be willing to impose any significant pain on their voters in response to Vladimir Putin’s aggression. Now there are serious discussions underway about whether and to what extent Germany can wean itself from Russian gas.

A small reduction in gas consumption shouldn’t be hard to achieve. Precisely because gas has been cheap, some of it is currently being burned in low-priority ways, easily discouraged with moderately higher prices and/or modest regulation. Large reductions, however, are another matter.

Put it this way: An important new study by a group of German economists (there are nine authors, so I’ll just refer to it as Bachmann et al.) estimates that eliminating gas imports from Russia would require cutting gas consumption by about 30 percent, to around 600 terawatt-hours from around 900 TWh. Why not 55 percent, the Russian share of German gas? Because Germany can probably get somewhat more gas from other sources and limit the use of gas for electricity generation by relying more on coal and nuclear power. (Yes, coal must be phased out to save us from climate catastrophe — but not in the middle of a war. It’s the St. Augustine principle: “Make me chaste, but not yet.”)
https://web.archive.org/web/20220313040409/https://www.econtribute.de/
RePEc/ajk/ajkpbs/ECONtribute_PB_028_2022.pdf

Even a 30 percent fall in consumption will, however, be hard to achieve on short notice. Cutting consumption from 900 to 800 TWh might not be that costly; the reduction from, say, 700 to 600 TWh would be a lot more painful.

The German economists focus on a key economic concept called the elasticity of substitution — roughly speaking, how much demand for natural gas falls off for every 1 percent rise in its price. If that elasticity is low, the amount Germans would be willing to pay for an extra bit of gas once consumption has already been substantially reduced is large, implying that the economic cost of further reductions is also large.

Unfortunately, empirical estimates suggest that the elasticity of substitution for natural gas is low, at least in the short run. It’s not zero: Given high gas prices, households will turn down their thermostats, consumers will stop buying goods whose production requires burning a lot of natural gas, and so on. Still, the best guess is that we’re talking about an elasticity of around 0.18, which in turn means (if I’m doing the arithmetic right) that the price of natural gas would have to rise by around 600 percent to cut demand by 30 percent.

That sounds like a lot, and Bachmann et al. deliberately use an even more pessimistic estimated elasticity of 0.1.

Yet even with those pessimistic assumptions, they find that Germany could, in fact, do without Russian natural gas, precisely because the country currently spends so little on Russian imports. The costs would be serious: German real income might fall by around 2 percent, the equivalent of a moderate recession. But it wouldn’t be the end of the world.

Such drastic action would have been inconceivable a month ago. But Putin seems to be in the process of achieving something remarkable: reminding the world’s democracies what they stand for. He has already ruined Russia’s reputation as a military superpower; he’s now in the process of reducing whatever economic power it had, too.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220315164020/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/03/15/opinion/germany-russia-ukraine-gas.html

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 2:44 PM

You know SECOND based on Signyms posts listing all the things that are wrong with living in America and how fucked up it is, we can say without a doubt she would not live five minutes in a country run by Putin. She’s not kidding anybody.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 2:48 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

You know SECOND based on Signyms posts listing all the things that are wrong with living in America and how fucked up it is, we can say without a doubt she would not live five minutes in a country run by Putin. She’s not kidding anybody.

You seem to be barely scraping along yourself right now.

I do hope you have somebody looking after you.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:55 PM

Russians Fight Over Food in Grocery Store As Sanctions Lead To Empty Shelves

A video that appears to show Russian citizens fighting for groceries amid empty shelves has gone viral on social media.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-fight-over-food-in-groce
ry-store-as-sanctions-lead-to-empty-shelves/ar-AAV5oVW?ocid=msedgntp

I'm not a fan of Newsweek but if this is for sure I gotta say, I told you so signym. I told you so. The video can be found by following the link.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by Thg:
Russians Fight Over Food in Grocery Store As Sanctions Lead To Empty Shelves

A video that appears to show Russian citizens fighting for groceries amid empty shelves has gone viral on social media.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-fight-over-food-in-groce
ry-store-as-sanctions-lead-to-empty-shelves/ar-AAV5oVW?ocid=msedgntp

I'm not a fan of Newsweek but if this is for sure I gotta say, I told you so signym. I told you so. The video us can be found by following the link.

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Ted LOVES him some people he doesn't agree with starving.

I TOLD YOU SO, Ted.

You are a waste of carbon.

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Thursday, March 17, 2022 9:29 PM

House Votes to Suspend Normal Trade Relations With Russia

WASHINGTON — The House voted overwhelmingly on Thursday to strip Russia of its preferential trade status with the United States, moving to further penalize the country’s economy in response to the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-votes-to-suspend-normal-
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Thursday, March 17, 2022 9:32 PM

More Russian civilians starving to death at your hands.

You must be so pleased with yourself, Ted.

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Thursday, March 17, 2022 9:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
More Russian civilians starving to death at your hands.

You must be so pleased with yourself, Ted.

1) Putin said that Ukraines starved themselves to death. He claimed it had nothing to do with Russia.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putins-war
-to-crush-ukraine-is-part-of-a-long-kremlin-tradition/

2) People who are not Putin say Russia did starve Ukraine:

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine – Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

At the height of the 1932-33 Ukrainian famine under Joseph Stalin, starving people roamed the countryside, desperate for something, anything to eat. In the village of Stavyshche, a young peasant boy watched as the wanderers dug into empty gardens with their bare hands. Many were so emaciated, he recalled, that their bodies began to swell and stink from the extreme lack of nutrients.

"You could see them walking about, just walking and walking, and one would drop, and then another, and so on it went," he said many years later, in a case history collected in the late 1980s by a Congressional commission. In the cemetery outside the village hospital, overwhelmed doctors carried the bodies on stretchers and tossed them into an enormous pit.
https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

3) Russians are NOT starving. It is less dramatic: "There were empty shelves. There was no salt, no sugar, no pasta, no buckwheat, rice was expensive," Anna said (via Google Translate). "So people saw a cart of sugar, put it out, and ran after it. They just jumped on this cart. Everyone began to push aggressively."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-fight-over-food-in-groce
ry-store-as-sanctions-lead-to-empty-shelves/ar-AAV5oVW

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Friday, March 18, 2022 12:05 PM

Oligarchs and other wealthy Russians have stashed up to $214 billion in secretive Swiss bank accounts, leading trade group reveals

Swiss banks hold as much as $214 billion in Russian money, the top Swiss banking association said. The disclosure to Reuters, by the Swiss Bankers Association, is unusual given Swiss banking secrecy.

Switzerland recently departed from its historically neutral status to sanction Russia over Ukraine. Who's going to rebuild Russia?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/oligarchs-and-other-wealthy-ru
ssians-have-stashed-up-to-214-billion-in-secretive-swiss-bank-accounts-leading-trade-group-reveals/ar-AAVdwMY?ocid=msedgntp

Fan fucking tastic. They didn't see this coming when they invaded. We'll use it in the rebuilding of Ukraine.

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Friday, March 18, 2022 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR believes the M$M bc it tells him what he wants to hear. "Critical thinking" is a foreign concept.

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I'm no longer wondering how long Ukraine can hold out because it is obvious, they are going to win. No, now I am wondering how long Putin will survive. I told you so signym.

tick tock

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Friday, March 18, 2022 2:55 PM

You sound so sure of yourself, Ted.

Meanwhile, in the Real World, there's scant evidence that a war is even going on.

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:52 PM

EU Officials Mull Using Sanctioned Russians’ Assets for Ukraine

(Bloomberg) -- European Union officials are discussing the possibility of using the assets of sanctioned Russian tycoons to help fund Ukraine’s war recovery efforts, according to three people familiar with the matter.

Told you so Signym. I called it.

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You sound so sure of yourself, Ted.

Meanwhile, in the Real World, there's scant evidence that a war is even going on.

More than two dozen Senate Republicans demand Biden do more for Ukraine after voting against doing more for Ukraine

More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine.

Consider Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), who heard Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s emotional plea in a virtual address to Congress on Wednesday for more weapons and a no-fly zone over Ukraine:

“President Biden needs to make a decision TODAY: either give Ukraine access to the planes and antiaircraft defense systems it needs to defend itself, or enforce a no-fly zone to close Ukrainian skies to Russian attacks,” Scott said in a statement. “If President Biden does not do this NOW, President Biden will show himself to be absolutely heartless and ignorant of the deaths of innocent Ukrainian children and families.”

Last week, Scott was one of 31 Republicans to vote against.

More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine
-aid-vote/

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 9:03 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You sound so sure of yourself, Ted.

Meanwhile, in the Real World, there's scant evidence that a war is even going on.
More than two dozen Senate Republicans demand Biden do more for Ukraine after voting against doing more for Ukraine

More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine.

That's evidence of Nothing.

Fuck those lying Republicans.

I've been telling you for YEARS that I'm not a Republican.

Stick around long enough and you're going to learn two things:

1. When the social pendulum swings back to the center and starts making its wild ride up the Right side, I'm going to have a LOT to say about it.

2. You'll get to see how somebody with an actual cornerstone in their ideological beliefs doesn't waver an inch when the winds of change are upon them.

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Sunday, March 20, 2022 9:12 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's evidence of Nothing.

Fuck those lying Republicans.

I've been telling you for YEARS that I'm not a Republican.

Stick around long enough and you're going to learn two things:

1. When the social pendulum swings back to the center and starts making its wild ride up the Right side, I'm going to have a LOT to say about it.

2. You'll get to see how somebody with an actual cornerstone in their ideological beliefs doesn't waver an inch when the winds of change are upon them.

If the MSM is for President Zelenskyy, you gotta be against. If the MSM is against Trump, you gotta be for. See the pattern?

6ix, you are a contrarian. Neither Democrat nor Republican. You have various antipathies. What’s a key reason why 6ix likes Trump? Because the mainstream media doesn’t. When would 6ix boo Trump? When he conforms to what the establishment wants, including by getting a COVID-vaccine booster.

If you spend any time watching Tucker Carlson or following the rhetoric of popular far-right voices, such as Candace Owens or Marjorie Taylor Greene, you’ll see a consistent theme — they’ll find what they call “the narrative” (another word for the perceived conventional wisdom in the media or in the political establishment) and simply argue the opposite.

We saw the pattern throughout the pandemic. “The narrative” was that COVID was serious, and so right-wing figures minimized the virus, claiming that it was like the common cold, or that it was merely the flu, or that it would claim only 500 or 5,000 lives.

“The narrative” claimed that masks could help limit the spread of the disease, so far-right figures mocked masks, sometimes even referring to them as “face diapers.”

Then as the narrative moved to full-throated support for vaccines, the same cohort held back. If “they” want me to take a vaccine, then something must be wrong.

Don’t mistake contrarianism for critical thinking. A true critical thinker holds all sides accountable for their mistakes. Those who underplayed the COVID threat would be rejected just as decisively (if not more, given the staggering toll in lives) as those who overplayed it. Those who said there were no contacts between Russians and the Trump campaign would be rejected just as decisively as those who said there was active collusion with the Russian government.

The critical thinker is universally skeptical. The contrarian commits two errors — he’s both excessively cynical and excessively credulous. He’s too quick to disbelieve one side and too quick to believe the opposite. For example, he’ll reject an avalanche of evidence of the safety and effectiveness of a vaccine while jumping quickly on fad treatments, like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. He’ll reject overwhelming proof that the January 6 insurrection was a Trumpist attack on the Capitol and respond immediately to speculation that the FBI or antifa instigated the riot.

The same people who were catastrophically wrong about the severity of COVID or the effectiveness of vaccines continue to enjoy an audience from the same people who demand rigorous and merciless accountability from their political opponents.

The pattern holds true across multiple fronts. The contrarians still love the voices who spread absurd misinformation about the 2020 election, in part because the rest of the media rejects them. And what does the Russian invasion teach us about the right? It’s that a similar percentage will resist “the narrative” even when the reality and the morality of the moment could not be more clear.

More at https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/the-third-rail/6234aa276c908600205
16e75/republican-conspiracy-russia-ukraine/

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Sunday, March 20, 2022 9:59 AM

Your opinion changes every five minutes, Second. You have no ideological cornerstone and nothing but a million little contradictory flickers of ideas flitting in and out of existence inside that little brain of yours like fireflies that are brought out when you want to make an argument, and then blinked right back out of existence and forgotten about just in time to make your next hypocritical argument in another thread.

Every single post post you have ever made in these boards directly contradicts another post you've made. Some of them do it mere moments apart from each other.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Sunday, March 20, 2022 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your opinion changes every five minutes, Second. You have no ideological cornerstone and nothing but a million little contradictory flickers of ideas flitting in and out of existence inside that little brain of yours like fireflies that are brought out when you want to make an argument, and then blinked right back out of existence and forgotten about just in time to make your next hypocritical argument in another thread.

Every single post post you have ever made in these boards directly contradicts another post you've made. Some of them do it mere moments apart from each other.

6ix, you are like some random stranger in an elevator with me saying, "First you pushed the up button, second. The next time I see you, you pushed the down button. You are totally inconsistent." 6ix, you are definitely a contrarian and I am getting off this elevator with you and out of the building.

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Sunday, March 20, 2022 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your opinion changes every five minutes, Second. You have no ideological cornerstone and nothing but a million little contradictory flickers of ideas flitting in and out of existence inside that little brain of yours like fireflies that are brought out when you want to make an argument, and then blinked right back out of existence and forgotten about just in time to make your next hypocritical argument in another thread.

Every single post post you have ever made in these boards directly contradicts another post you've made. Some of them do it mere moments apart from each other.
6ix, you are like some random stranger in an elevator with me saying, "First you pushed the up button, second. The next time I see you, you pushed the down button. You are totally inconsistent." 6ix, you are definitely a contrarian and I am getting off this elevator with you and out of the building.

Good. I have no desire to discuss anything further with you ever. Do us both a favor and ignore me like Ted does.

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To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them… To forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again… that was the ultimate subtlety.

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Monday, March 21, 2022 2:22 PM

Russia Suffers Blow as Germany Strikes Natural Gas Deal With Qatar

Germany said Sunday that it had reached a deal on an energy partnership with Qatar, as the European powerhouse seeks to reduce its dependence on Russia amid the invasion of Ukraine.

Last month, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced the nation would stop the certification of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline after Russian President Vladimir Putin said Moscow would recognize the sovereignty of self-proclaimed "people's republics" of Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine—a step Putin took just before he invaded Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-suffers-blow-as-germany-st
rikes-natural-gas-deal-with-qatar/ar-AAVitpC?ocid=msedgntp

Good news...

T

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Wednesday, March 23, 2022 7:34 AM

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A campaign to force Vladimir Putin’s reported lover out of her luxury villa in Switzerland

A petition has been launched for the Swiss to deport former gymnast Alina Kabaeva, 38, describing her as an ‘accomplice of his regime’. Kabaeva, who received Russia’s highest state decoration from the president after winning an Olympic gold medal in 2004, is thought to have had four children with the 69-year-old. Kabaeva's children are Swiss citizens.

The traditionally neutral country, a favourite bolt-hole of the Russian elite, unexpectedly signed up to international sanctions against the Kremlin earlier this month.

As a Russian MP from 2007 to 2014, Kabaeva backed laws banning the adoption of Russian orphans in the US, said to have contributed to the deaths of a number of children who needed complex medical care.

She also voted for so-called ‘gay propaganda laws’ effectively banning public discussion or displays of LGBT relationships that could be seen by children.

Her current job as chair of the board of directors at National Media Group, a Kremlin-backing TV and newspaper giant, reportedly earns her £8 million a year.

Kabaeva left Russia when the Ukraine invasion began and has been staying in a ‘luxury and very private’ chalet in a remote part of Switzerland, according to various reports.

Putin revealed too much: ‘I have a private life in which I do not permit interference. It must be respected. I have always reacted negatively to those who with their snotty noses and erotic fantasies prowl into others’ lives.’

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/22/alina-kabaeva-petition-launched-for-swi
ss-to-deport-putins-lover-16318574/

Alina Kabaeva https://www.google.com/search?q=Alina+Kabaeva

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Wednesday, March 23, 2022 7:38 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Hey!
I know!
Let's ban Russian cats and dogs!
THAT'LL show the world how effective we are!
/snicker

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, March 23, 2022 9:07 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

What does Hindu India think?

What They Want: Allies Meet In Europe For Ukraine Summits
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/what-th
ey-want-allies-meet-in-europe-for-ukraine-summits-articleshow.html

Ukraine: Torn between West and Russia
https://www.wionews.com/photos/ukraine-torn-between-west-and-russia-45
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Arnab Goswami Opinion
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/why-doe
s-america-love-the-russia-ukraine-war-arnab-goswami-cuts-to-the-chase-articleshow.html

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Originally posted by SIGNYM: If you look at a map of the world and who is sanctioning Russia v who is not, the sanctioners are a tiny portion in a sea of nations that still trade with Russia.

Map taken from the 'batshit crazy' debate

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Wednesday, March 23, 2022 10:29 AM

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How Russia and Right-Wing Americans Converged on War in Ukraine

Some conservatives have echoed the Kremlin’s misleading claims about the war and vice versa, giving each other’s assertions a sheen of credibility.

After President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia claimed that action against Ukraine was taken in self-defense, the Fox News host Tucker Carlson and the conservative commentator Candace Owens repeated the assertion. When Mr. Putin insisted he was trying to “denazify” Ukraine, Joe Oltmann, a far-right podcaster, and Lara Logan, another right-wing commentator, mirrored the idea.

The echoing went the other way, too. Some far-right American news sites, like Infowars, stoked a longtime, unfounded Russian claim that the United States funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine. Russian officials seized on the chatter, with the Kremlin contending it had documentation of bioweapons programs that justified its “special military operation” in Ukraine.

As war has raged, the Kremlin’s talking points and some right-wing discourse in the United States — fueled by those on the far right — have coalesced. On social media, podcasts and television, falsehoods about the invasion of Ukraine have flowed both ways, with Americans amplifying lies from Russians and the Kremlin spreading fabrications that festered in American forums online.

By reinforcing and feeding each other’s messaging, some right-wing Americans have given credibility to Russia’s assertions and vice versa. Together, they have created an alternate reality, recasting the Western bloc of allies as provokers, blunderers and liars, which has bolstered Mr. Putin.

The war initially threw some conservatives — who had insisted no invasion would happen — for a loop. Many criticized Mr. Putin and Russia’s assault on Ukraine. Some have since gone on to urge more support for Ukraine.

But in recent days, several far-right commentators have again gravitated to narratives favorable to Mr. Putin’s cause. The main one has been the bioweapons conspiracy theory, which has provided a way to talk about the war while focusing criticism on President Biden and the U.S. government instead of Mr. Putin and the Kremlin.

“People are asking if the far right in the U.S. is influencing Russia or if Russia is influencing the far right, but the truth is they are influencing each other,” said Thomas Rid, a professor at Johns Hopkins University who studies Russian information warfare. “They are pushing the same narratives.”

“It serves them, and Russia, to muddy the waters and confuse Americans.”

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220323102544/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/03/23/technology/russia-american-far-right-ukraine.html

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Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:27 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Why the enormous scale of financial pain being inflicted on Russia worries some in the West

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-the-enormous-scale-of-fina
ncial-pain-being-inflicted-on-russia-worries-some-in-the-west/ar-AAUxvE4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

T

Anonymous claims hack on Russia’s Central Bank and will ‘release secret agreements in 48 hours’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/anonymous-claims-hack-on-russia-s
-central-bank-and-will-release-secret-agreements-in-48-hours/ar-AAVshrn?ocid=msedgntp

I'm all a tingle.

T

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Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:01 PM

Russia's days as an energy superpower are coming to an end

In a matter of weeks, the war in Ukraine has upended an energy relationship between Europe and Russia that goes back decades. Europe understands that it cannot sever ties with Russia overnight, as it still needs Russian energy. But Russia's role in the European and global energy system has been shaken. This is a profound shift that will mark the end of Russia as an energy superpower.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/opinion-russia-s-days-as-an-energ
y-superpower-are-coming-to-an-end/ar-AAVs74S?ocid=msedgntp

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Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:12 PM

Opinion.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

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Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:13 PM