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Trump just offered to broker a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine

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Thursday, September 29, 2022 11:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Finally. Our REAL President speaks up.


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Friday, September 30, 2022 3:01 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump's comments on Wednesday were not the first time he has called for Russia and Ukraine to "figure out" a solution. In April, he said the two countries should negotiate peace "now — not later — when everyone will be DEAD!"

That same month, a 2019 clip surfaced of Trump suggesting to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that he "get together" with Putin to solve their "problem," which prompted a look of shock and disgust from the Ukrainian leader.

It is unclear how effective Trump would be as a negotiator, but he is known to have had significant ties with Russia. The former president spent decades trying to break ground in Moscow with his business. Last June, Putin praised Trump for being an "extraordinary" and "talented" individual last June.

Special counsel Robert Mueller probed Trump's ties with Russia following accusations that the Russian government, under Putin's direction, had helped Trump win the presidency in 2016 by waging an "influence campaign" against his rival, Hillary Clinton. For his part, Trump has denied any wrongdoing, calling the probe a hoax.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-offers-lead-group-to-mediate-pea
ce-russia-2022-9


6ix, I expect Trump to be as successful as he was negotiating with North Korea.

Inside the Collapse of Trump’s Korea Policy

By Uri Friedman, December 19, 2019.

Earlier this month, at a NATO summit in London, Donald Trump declared that “we have peace” with North Korea and that he had a better “personal relationship” with Kim Jong Un than the dictator had with possibly anyone else “in the world.”

Hours later, I stood in a hotel ballroom in Washington, D.C., with U.S. and South Korean officials and North Korea experts at a reception hosted by the Korea Foundation, a public-diplomacy organization affiliated with the South Korean government. The president’s North Korea envoy, Stephen Biegun, spoke in subdued tones about how he felt the “weight” of the past year on his “own shoulders,” his actual slouched shoulders completing the picture of a diplomat repeatedly spurned. “Obviously we have not made as much progress as we would have hoped at this point, but let me be absolutely clear: We have not given up,” he stated, the platitude seeming to belie the message.

As Biegun made a beeline for the bar, attendees dining on potatoes au gratin and deviled eggs speculated not about peace in our time but rather about what sort of provocation Kim was plotting. A North Korean official had just threatened to deliver a “Christmas gift” to the United States if the U.S. doesn’t assume a more flexible position in nuclear negotiations by the end of the year. As far as punitive gift-giving goes, North Korea tends to favor demonstrations of fearsome weapons over lumps of coal.

The subtext of all the nervous talk was that Trump’s once-promising diplomacy with Kim is rapidly unraveling. The two leaders are no longer unknown quantities to each other, making a return to the military brinkmanship of 2017—perhaps the most dangerous standoff involving nuclear weapons since the Cuban missile crisis—less likely. But as the new year nears, the United States and North Korea are reverting to their old ways, however half-heartedly.

Although Trump says his friendship with Kim has produced a more peaceful North Korea, the reality, especially of late, has been quite different. Since May, North Korea has tested more missiles than it has in any other year in its history, except possibly 2016, according to the analyst Ankit Panda. It never stopped producing fissile material for nuclear bombs. Think tanks are pumping out reports on establishing “maximum pressure 2.0” against Pyongyang. The name-calling is back: Kim is once more “Rocket Man,” Trump a senile “dotard.” Satellites are spotting renewed activity at North Korean nuclear sites, while Kim has resumed testing at a rocket-launch site he had promised to dismantle in 2018. U.S. officials are yet again warning of military options. North Korean officials are proclaiming the days of denuclearization negotiations over. Kim is galloping around on white horses, and let’s just say it’s not because white symbolizes peace.

Desperate to salvage the détente, Trump has been warning Kim not to “interfere with the U.S. Presidential Election” (as if North Korea’s totalitarian leader has qualms about messing with American democracy) or to “void his special relationship with the President of the United States” (as if their bromance were contractual). He has relentlessly downplayed the recent spurt of missile tests, even as they’ve become more sophisticated and harder to dismiss. “You can’t have the North Koreans, for example, do a submarine-launched [nuclear-capable] missile test and say it’s okay, while your closest ally, Japan, is going batshit,” Joseph Yun, who served as the State Department’s North Korea envoy from 2016 to 2018, told me.

Pronouncing the diplomacy dead would be premature. There’s a chance that the North Koreans are simply trying to pressure Trump into making a deal on their terms as he faces reelection. Nevertheless, it’s a remarkable comedown for the Trump administration’s signature initiative to address what it has billed as the country’s top security threat. This is the policy in which the president has invested the most time and resources, the one that he has touted as his greatest success and made a model (maximum pressure + personal engagement by the president = wins for America) in his dealings everywhere from China to Iran. What’s at stake, though, isn’t just Trump’s legacy in foreign affairs or the Nobel Peace Prize he so clearly desires. Also at the mercy of what comes next are global efforts to stop the spread of the world’s most destructive weapons and potentially one of the last opportunities to reconcile North and South Korea after 70 years of alienation.

Washington and Pyongyang are returning so easily to the bad old days because the underlying issue that occasioned the 2017 showdown—North Korea’s development of nuclear weapons that can threaten the whole world, including the United States and its allies—has not dissipated one bit despite all the diplomacy, and has in fact become more grave.

What the president currently has to show for his efforts are the toughest international sanctions ever imposed on North Korea; a nonbinding suspension of North Korean nuclear- and long-range-missile tests; a shattered taboo against American and North Korean leaders meeting; a vague North Korean commitment to denuclearization; a semi-destroyed nuclear-test site; and the return of some American hostages and the remains of U.S. soldiers. The crisis with North Korea is less acute now than it was in 2016 and 2017, but the progress is modest and subject to change at any moment.

The story of how Trump’s North Korea policy collapsed is in part one of Pyongyang’s intransigence, obfuscation, and bad faith in talks about its nuclear program, as well as one in which U.S. and North Korean officials misread one another and at times placed too much stock in the rosy messages of the South Korean government, a key intermediary.

But it’s also a tale about the American president undercutting his own success. Trump prioritized the North Korean threat, amassed unmatched leverage against Pyongyang, and boldly shook up America’s approach to its decades-old adversary. Yet he squandered many of these gains during his first summit with Kim, in Singapore, and set several precedents there that have hobbled nuclear talks ever since. He shifted the paradigm with North Korea in style but not in substance. While transforming the role of the president in negotiations with North Korea, he did not bring the same inventiveness to the negotiations themselves.

Read more about THE ‘FIRE AND FURY’ ERA at https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/12/donald-trump-kim-
jong-un-north-korea-diplomacy-denuclearization/603748
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, September 30, 2022 9:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Trump's comments on Wednesday were not the first time he has called for Russia and Ukraine to "figure out" a solution. In April, he said the two countries should negotiate peace "now — not later — when everyone will be DEAD!"

That same month, a 2019 clip surfaced of Trump suggesting to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that he "get together" with Putin to solve their "problem," which prompted a look of shock and disgust from the Ukrainian leader.



Of course he did. It would mean the end to his money train.

LOL at "leader". Ukraine would have surrendered that "war" on day two had the US not been involved since far before the start.

Fuck Crossdresser Z. Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck NATO. Fuck Pro-War Democrats like you.

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Friday, September 30, 2022 9:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Why don't you denouce the breweries holding "family events" with drag queens dressing up like Disney princesses and full video of 4 year old girls rubbing the dude's genitals on stage and nobody in the place stopping it from happening again and again?

That's the Democrat party in 2022 idiot, and all you can talk about is Russia.


Here's the thread in case you missed it:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65291

The footage is right in the beginning of the video. Just press play and see what your party is doing.

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Friday, September 30, 2022 9:58 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why don't you denouce the breweries holding "family events" with drag queens dressing up like Disney princesses and full video of 4 year old girls rubbing the dude's genitals on stage and nobody in the place stopping it from happening again and again?

That's the Democrat party in 2022 idiot, and all you can talk about is Russia.


Here's the thread in case you missed it:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65291

The footage is right in the beginning of the video. Just press play and see what your party is doing.

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Trump failed with North Korea negotiations, after spending years. Why would Trump succeed in negotiations ending a war? And the rest of your writing is called Whataboutism - the technique of responding to a difficult question by raising different issues.

South Korea's president said Trump 'beat around the bush' on North Korea's nukes and his efforts 'failed'
https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-president-said-trump-faile
d-on-north-korea-2021-4


Where Trump Went Wrong on North Korea Nuclear Diplomacy
After more than two years at the forefront of the international agenda, North Korea denuclearization efforts have faded from view, leaving little progress to show for it. Critics say the Trump administration took a flawed approach to the negotiations
https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/why-trump-s-north-korea-missile-an
d-nuclear-diplomacy-failed
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Donald Trump’s North Korea Gambit
Trump rejected Kim’s proposal to dismantle the Yongbyon nuclear facility in return for lifting sanctions, choosing instead to walk away from their second summit in Hanoi. Their final meeting on the border between North and South Korea amounted to barely more than a photocall.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/donald-trumps-north-korea-gambi
t-what-worked-what-didnt-and-whats-next


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, September 30, 2022 3:05 PM

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What's really sad is if Trump was still Prez tens of thousands of people in Ukraine and thousands of drunken Russian solders would still be alive.

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Friday, September 30, 2022 5:40 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
What's really sad is if Trump was still Prez tens of thousands of people in Ukraine and thousands of drunken Russian solders would still be alive.

I'm pretty sure you don't understand that Pres. Trump would have zero influence over Putin's decisions, while Putin, who can blackmail Trump, has infinite influence over Trump's decisions.

A lot of people have joked about whether Russia had something on Trump. Turns out it might. It was never in Putin's best interest to help Robert Mueller III write a report about Russian interference in the 2016 election or about Trump's antics while visiting Moscow. It was always for Putin to know and Trump to worry about what Putin knows about Trump.

Donald Trump's appeasement of Russia is unprecedented for a US president. His behavior is consistent with that of an asset being blackmailed.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/07/26/ex-cia-analyst-trump
-appeases-russia-consistent-blackmail-column/816512002
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, September 30, 2022 8:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
What's really sad is if Trump was still Prez tens of thousands of people in Ukraine and thousands of drunken Russian solders would still be alive.



Exactly.

Feel free to ignore the dildo. Second's opinions are meaningless.

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