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Jewel's May 31, Blog

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 6:51 AM

DIETCOKE


Jewel reports on her screening in Denver.

http://users.ev1.net/~alternity/abadeo/jewel_staite/Jewel.html



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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 7:02 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE


Didn't notice until she mentioned it - screening ticket sales figures go toward the opening weekend gross of the film. Probably not enough to make a huge difference, but it's something.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 7:32 AM

JADEHAND


Wow that's nice. Good to hear that the screening count towards first weekend...According to TPTB.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 7:39 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by STEVEthePIRATE:
Didn't notice until she mentioned it - screening ticket sales figures go toward the opening weekend gross of the film. Probably not enough to make a huge difference, but it's something.





I would think it no small amount either. Every theatre has been sold, so those figures should give us a good headstart on hitting the goal that 'Versal has set for Joss & crew.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 7:56 AM

JARED


Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
I would think it no small amount either. Every theatre has been sold, so those figures should give us a good headstart on hitting the goal that 'Versal has set for Joss & crew.



Don't know, I read something around $50k so far, but can't tell if it's "official" or just guestimated. My guess would have been closer to 100k by now. Either way, when talking about box office, does anyone even care about the .1 or .05 after the millions? With a whole LOT of screenings however they might be able to "cheat" a bit to have a great result for the first day. But I doubt we will see a dozen more screenings in dozens more cities. Maybe about one every month? And if we (as in.. well, "we" over here) are REALLY lucky, they might spread out one batch over the rest of the world.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


From Jewel's blog....
Quote:

Also, the movie's not finished yet! This is just a preliminary version. There will be some changes. Not a lot, but some.


Ahhh...the plot thickens. Clearly, the screening wasn't the finished product. But the big ? remains..how MUCH change will there be? I won't go into what was said/seen at the ATL screening, but.....

Jewel also adds.....
Quote:

I'm hoping these audiences are interested in seeing the changes, or just really liked the movie the first time around and want to see it again. So never fear. The people at Universal are professionals, man! They know what they're doing! You can trust them! Okay? Okay.
That's definatly one thing I'll confirm.... we'll be seeing Serenity more than once! Count on that!!!!!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 8:40 AM

OXYOPIA


Regarding changes to the film, Joss had this to say in a recent interview:

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Will it go through any major changes between now and the release?

WHEDON: No, no major changes. I mean, there will be extremely affecting, subtle changes like having a coherent score all the way through, and not temp music from 96 different movies. And we’ll also do a digital intermediate and color time the movie, which means it’ll, again, have a very subtle but very important coherence. It’ll be a lot prettier and will generally just gussy the whole thing up.
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The link for the interview is:
http://www.darkworlds.com/ls/art_18242.html

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:07 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

It’ll be a lot prettier and will generally just gussy the whole thing up.


OK, since it's from an interview, that's more along the lines of what I heard too. Seeing how Joss and Co. can 'gussy',....I can't wait!

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 11:37 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

It’ll be a lot prettier and will generally just gussy the whole thing up.


OK, since it's from an interview, that's more along the lines of what I heard too. Seeing how Joss and Co. can 'gussy',....I can't wait!




People don't say "gussy" enough. We should definitely use that more.

That's all.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 2:53 PM

TDTMF


this is so weird....

it seems that every time jewel posts a new note, i can't see it for a couple days. i go directly to the website and use the links above, but it goes to the may 3 message.

any ideas how/why this happens????? help me!!!

td


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Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:20 PM

ZOID


tdtmf:

Try flushing your browser's cache. Know how to do that?

It may be that Jewel's site is not date-stamped, or not properly date-stamped. And/Or if you have your browser's settings configured to download new content only if it's newer than the objects in your cache, then it may be skipping the download in order to 'speed up your browsing experience.'

Flushing your cache will force the browser to fully reload the page, which should fix your problem.

If you have Internet Explorer:
Go to 'Tools' on your menu bar, then select 'Internet Options'. This will open a dialog box titled 'Internet Options'. In the middle of the box is a section labeled 'Temporary Internet Files'. Click on the 'Delete Files...' button in this section. Another dialog will open to confirm this action. Click on the button labeled 'Okay'. (NB: If you don't have any websites or pages that you have marked for synchronization or saved for offline viewing, it's 'best practice' to also select the 'Delete all offline content' checkbox.)

You'll see some activity (perhaps for a longish time, if your cache is really full) and then be back at the previous 'Internet Options' dialog box. From here, go to the last section, labeled 'History' and click the 'Clear History' button. (NB: Again, this is not strictly necessary, but is best practice unless you routinely use the auto-complete feature when manually entering URLs in the address bar.) Another confirmation dialog will pop up; select 'OK'. More activity, and then you're back at the previous dialog. Click on the button labeled 'OK' -- located at the bottom of the box -- to dismiss the Internet Tools dialog box.

Now try reloading the link, and it should work.

Most people still use IE, so that's why I gave the step-by-step for that browser. If you use Firefox like me, then you are probably savvy enough to know how to flush the cache on your own...


Helpfully(?),

zoid

P.S.
All kidding aside, if you use Firefox and don't know how to clear the cache, write back and I'll tell you; but it's pretty much the same sequence, just slightly different labels.

P.P.S.
If this still doesn't get you the newer page: Are you by any chance on AOL or one of the new 'high-speed' dialup accounts? If so, your problem may be that your ISP's webcache servers are out of date. Your service is faster because they cache frequently accessed pages and then serve them to you directly, negating the slow down as your request/response is routed around the Internet (maybe around the world). The downside: You may have trouble getting fresh content. You know, like you are having trouble getting fresh content. To fix this, get a T1 Internet connection set up in your home. Just call the telephone company and they'll send you a brochure (and your very own salesman!) to quote you a price.

...Or you could just get a cable or DSL internet connection...
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Thursday, June 2, 2005 12:42 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


I'm just really enjoying Jewel's writing!

It's always been a struggle for me to get things flowing in a reasonably witty manner, so I just love reading stuff like this...

Quote:

From 22 March 2005

And since I'm, like, not busy at all right now, I figured it was time to spew some more pointless nonsense. Yipeeee!
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I know I've said this before, but let me shove it down your throat again, cuz I can.
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Just bought my fourth pair of shoes in one month, which is disgusting. They only had one size left, a half size smaller than what I really am, but I'm too ashamed to say anything about it and have continuously paraded around the house, limping around in them, insisting that they have to be "stretched out, that's all". What else? OH and I've been playing Pac-Man. Yes, life is truly exciting.
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I've actually started going to the gym, which isn't right, so it's clear that I have way too much time on my hands. Enjoy it while it lasts, though, right?


Quote:

From 1 November 2004

I'm writing to you from my "office" at the Grand Hotel, which I share with all the rest of the guests in the hotel. This eight-or-nine year old boy is always here, playing computer games and talking to himself. Where are his parents? I dunno.
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I guess part of the reason I'm writing is because today I received this wonderful message from Joss Whedon, on my cell phone. He sounded really gleeful, which isn't terribly normal for Joss. He doesn't act extremely excited unless it's worth it.. and he just sounded so happy, and so positive. It's the kind of message you get that you play over and over, whenever you're moody or tired or pissed off for some reason.. or you just haven't eaten. I think I like listening to it because he has such wonderful things to say about Serenity. I had such a love affair with Serenity. And I know I wasn't the only one.


Quote:

From 23 July 2004
The dailies have been looking great so far. Every lunch hour, the crew and the cast (the ones that can stand to watch themselves on screen, that is) scurry into the viewing theatre next to our stage to see what kind of magic we've created the day before. They have lunch there for us, so we pile our plates in a hurry, and then settle into our seats to watch the footage. Problem is, once the lights go out, it is BLACK in there, and you can't see what kind of forkful you're getting, so it's always a surprise what lands in your mouth. I ate my butter packet yesterday, a nice big mouthful of foil and lard. So now I inhale my food before the lights go down and then suffer through indigestion for the rest of the lunch hour. Good times!
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People on the Firefly/Serenity message boards are still chattering about my weight. I don't look skinnier. Just older. Because I am. And since I'm in my twenties, it's hard for me to keep weight on. I feel happy though, and healthy. When I'm hungry I eat, and when I'm full I stop. It's a perfect existance. The only times I go overboard is if there are cheeseburgers around, and the only times I go under-board is when there's corn or Thai food around. I hate corn and I hate Thai food. Hate. Passionately. But no, they're not adding weight to me in CGI, and no, Joss isn't force-feeding me every day at the craft service table. Kaylee will look like Jewel (unfortunately? fortunately?) because that's who's playing her. Thank God.


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Thursday, June 2, 2005 1:29 AM

PSYCHICRIVER


Your right, I love reading them!! They're so inspiring!

I wish Summer had a blog!

PsychicRiver

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 1:40 AM

EMBERS


I was wishing Summer had a blog too (it was so great meeting her!),
I wish all our BDHs kept blogs,
but at least we get the occassional report from Jewel, and she is a sweetheart!


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Thursday, June 2, 2005 2:39 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
I wish Summer had a blog!

Awwww, Dude!
You mean you haven't seen it?!

I forget the URL, but she keeps going on about how she'd be willing to bear the children of this "photogenic" lad she keeps running into but, alas, she never got a phone number from him!

It's kind of embarassing, really. I mean, it really warms my heart when a celebrity feels that they can open up theirs to the fans, but there are just some feelings that really need to be restrained.

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 4:05 AM

TDTMF


hey there,

thanks so much for your response. very nice of you to take the time to send details.

i do empty my temp internet files & history (& cookies) on a regualr basis. i tried it just now and it didn't solve the problem. i did go to the site through internet explorere (yep, i'm on aol - so i can i.m. with my folks) and it did show up. so it must be a timing thing with aol. thanks for the heads up. i at least know to watch for that kind of stuff now.

and thanks again for taking the time to help.

td

td


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Thursday, June 2, 2005 5:46 AM

ZOID



cljohnston108:

zoid here. If your sarcasm was intended for me (I assume it was, right?), please understand that it didn't upset me because I was sleeping. I do that occasionally.

If you still feel 'sarky', you can repost it. I enjoy acerbic wit, even when it's aimed at me. As long as the 'wit' part is good.

In any case, I'm sure I won't take umbrage, unless your intent is to hurt. Good-natured ribbing welcomed...


Groggily,

zoid
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Thursday, June 2, 2005 6:34 AM

ZOID


tdtmf:

Okay, so I'll keep my opinions on AOL to myself (EDIT from further down the page: Oops. Couldn't do it, sorry). If you ever read, surf or watch tech information products, you probably already know what the experts think of it; my opinion and their's coincide. It's that damned Buddy List that keeps you hooked, right?
(NB: Incidentally, you did know you can use AIM without being an AOL subscriber, right?)

Still, I'm interested in some other aspects of this little mystery, if you don't mind answering a couple questions.

First: Do AOL provide you with an 'AOL Browser'? Or do they simply tell you to get IE, Firefox, Opera, etc.? IF they do give you a specific browser, is it based on IE, Mozilla, ...?

Second: You said you cleared your cache and it didn't work. Then you tried the site with IE and it did work. That was all in the same post, so I assume only a small amount of time elapsed between 'it didn't work' and 'it worked'. That's why I'm interested in whether AOL provide a separate browser from your (I'm guessing, here) Windows-standard Internet Explorer installation (meaning you didn't choose to install IE, but it's on your computer anyway).

As a final note while waiting for your responses: I've got a couple friends who are AOL subscribers. They're either elderly thenselves or have elderly relatives who are too settled in their ways to change, with whom they must stay in contact. One of these is a close associate who is only 56, has no elderly family as an excuse, and who recently got off the dial-up in favor of broadband cable (I even helped him install a wireless LAN in his home).

He still pays $9.95 (plus applicable federal, state, and local taxes, fees and slush money) for AOL to go on top. "Why, for the love of God, why?!" I ask him. "Because they provide the Internet," sez he...

I go outside and regard the simple beauty of a fallen leaf, watching the birds in flight across the dusty sky, until my heart rate drops back to normal. Then I go back inside and calmly ask him what he means by, "they provide the Internet." He sez, "Well, the cable just gives me a connection to AOL, like my phone line used to do. AOL gives me the Internet."

After I (sort of) calmly explain that having a cable connection means not having to pay anything else for access to the Internet, he gives me this dubious look; 'cause he really doesn't believe me and he just doesn't want to be rude (since I've just installed a wireless router and configured six wireless workstations around his house and set them up for a fair shot at impenetrability from the CIA). He's pretty sure I don't know what I'm talking about; but he's being polite.

That AOL must have a 'Need Help?' system that Goebbels would have been proud of...


Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
Don't let my soliloquy distract you from giving me those browser details, if you'd be so kind. Your problem is really eating at me...
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Thursday, June 2, 2005 7:04 AM

PSYCHICRIVER


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Post deleted.
2 hours have passed with no comment, so I assume my sarcasm was misinterpreted.
If such is not the case, I will reinstate it.
No disrespect to Matt (PsychicRiver) or Ms. Glau was intended .

huh, me? Who? What?

PsychicRiver

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"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 7:46 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
huh, me? Who? What?

Okay, so I put it back.

Sometimes folks take what I say literally, when I thought it was obvious I was being sarcastic, and I don't hear about it until it's festered inside 'em for a good long while.

I was trying to read the Early Warning Signs.

Just remember: It is only in jest!
I think you and Summer would make an excellent couple!
I'm too old for her, anyway! 42 may be the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything, but...

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 7:53 AM

PSYCHICRIVER


lol! Thats hilarious! And, very flattering, might I add!

PsychicRiver

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"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 8:02 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Okay, cool! Just wanted to be sure!

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 1:15 PM

TDTMF


hey zoid,

believe me, i understand what "the educated" think of aol. i keep it for a couple reasons, but most importantly because of the comfort level my folks (76 & 74) have with it. we "talk" daily on line, play games together, etc. i also met my finace on aol, for which it will always hold a place in my heart. i can see how some might take offense to what they consider to be propaganda of the big machine, but it works for us.

as far as my system goes, it is a 2004 dell pc running xp. the internet explorer version is 6.0. my access is through a comcast cable modum. i don't use their interface at all.

i do access the internet directly through microsoft's internet explorer somtimes. and to answer your question about the timing of my test....it was immediatly after trying to get to the new message. in fact, i copied and pasted the web address from aol to i.e., so it was only a couple seconds. (just checked again through aol & i did get the page with the new mesage from jewel....)

as far as which browser aol uses, i think it is i.e. i do not recall down loading any other browser, but it could have put it there without me knowing.

let me know if you have any other questions, and what you think the problem might be. i'd love to know what you think it is.


thanks again,

td

td


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Thursday, June 2, 2005 1:33 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC


Quote:

Originally posted by Oxyopia:
WHEDON: No, no major changes. I mean, there will be extremely affecting, subtle changes like having a coherent score all the way through, and not temp music from 96 different movies. And we’ll also do a digital intermediate and color time the movie, which means it’ll, again, have a very subtle but very important coherence. It’ll be a lot prettier and will generally just gussy the whole thing up.


Don't we have a color timer here?

Just a random semi-related question

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Thursday, June 2, 2005 8:35 PM

ZAOGAO


Did she edit out the part about the screenings/first weekend? I don't see it there anymore.

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Friday, June 3, 2005 3:56 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by christhecynic:
Don't we have a color timer here?



I think Cozen does that...I think.


Chris, I only want to rest a day ot two...we won't stay long at the clubhouse.

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Friday, June 3, 2005 8:55 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


Quote:

Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Quote:

Originally posted by christhecynic:
Don't we have a color timer here?



I think Cozen does that...I think.


Cool.

No offence to you or the others, but once we got to the clubhouse he and Rat were the only ones that stayed fun.

Quote:

Chris, I only want to rest a day ot two...we won't stay long at the clubhouse.

Nice as that may be I don’t think I’ll be coming back to the thread, everyone there has a different set of rules that I’m meant to follow, and I’m not talking about hammocks.

Also TRM seems to be very, very serious for what I thought was meant to be a laid back thing.

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Friday, June 3, 2005 9:07 AM

PSYCHICRIVER


WhatEVER.

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."

Me -

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Saturday, June 4, 2005 3:05 PM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
First: Do AOL provide you with an 'AOL Browser'?


In the following, I use "you" for clarity, realizing that you, z, don't use AOL & may not have IE installed.

AOL gives you Internet Explorer. If you do a full install of AOL, then open IE outside of AOL (even when AOL is not running), the IE title bar will say Microsoft Internet Explorer provided by America Online. If you subsequently upgrade IE from Microsoft's website, the title bar will say Microsoft Internet Explorer, without 'provided by...'. The only difference in IE from the two sources is in the title bar. Within the AOL window, the browser window title bar carries only the name of the page displayed.

There is only one copy of IE on your computer, & it has only one webpage cache. You can purge it either within or outside AOL. It takes five clicks to purge, in either case, but only two additional clicks to close unneeded windows if you do it outside AOL, or three within AOL.

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Nuthin', gotta go

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Saturday, June 4, 2005 6:04 PM

JASONZZZ



Some ISP has been known to proxy cache your requests. For instance, for very large ISPs (like AOL) - even some large corporations's internal IT, it saves them a lot of traffic if they cache some of the more *popular* websites and let you fetch from their cache. It all works very transparently, so on your end you wouldn't really notice it at all...

But then 3 days or so is quite a long time to cache things - I doubt that they cache anything for that long.





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Saturday, June 4, 2005 6:08 PM

JASONZZZ



From her May 31st posting:

Quote:


... Wish we had more time to bomb around when we were there ...



Isn't it bumming around? or did I miss something about Denver?





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Saturday, June 4, 2005 6:16 PM

JASONZZZ


That always the Director's version of the story though - but given his history, it might very well be true. For most films, the last month of two of pre-screening comes back with the results of the audiences' reactions to different parts of the movies, and the marketing people's analysis and feedback. Taken all of this together, they might do some fine tuning, or they might decide to recut the ending or change the story around... If you are interested in more about how this process works, I would definitely suggest picking up Terry Gilliam's "The battle of Brazil" on how the studio exercised a small clause in their contract, took the film away from him and recut it into a love story - complete with different scoring and different sequences - pretty much murdered the movie. Terry didn't lose though, he took his cut and started showing it at film schools and invited reviewers... Well... you can read about the rest of it if you are interested... It is definitely a interesting bit.



Quote:

Originally posted by Oxyopia:
Regarding changes to the film, Joss had this to say in a recent interview:

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Will it go through any major changes between now and the release?

WHEDON: No, no major changes. I mean, there will be extremely affecting, subtle changes like having a coherent score all the way through, and not temp music from 96 different movies. And we’ll also do a digital intermediate and color time the movie, which means it’ll, again, have a very subtle but very important coherence. It’ll be a lot prettier and will generally just gussy the whole thing up.
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The link for the interview is:
http://www.darkworlds.com/ls/art_18242.html

-Oxy

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Saturday, June 4, 2005 9:52 PM

ZOID



YT:

Am I correct to assume that you are likewise an AOL user?

The problem with IE in general when it comes to flushing the cache is that you may think you're totally clearing the cache by using the Tools/Internet Options dialog; but, in fact you're not.

IE maintains about a gozillion separate caches with hidden and system properties. Even after you've gone thru the process enumerated above, you can still locate all kinds of graphics, histories, cookies, etc. in these hidden caches. Problem is, if you delete them you can cause your Windows installation to fail, requiring a reinstall of the OS. While that's not necessarily catastrophic if you've got your data files on a separate partition/hard disk, it's still a pain reinstalling all your other software after the OS redo. In fact, I routinely reformat and reinstall Windows (about every six months) just to eliminate all the detritus, both on the hard drive and in the registry.

The only sure way to get rid of all IE's hoarded data files is by utilizing 3rd party software designed for that purpose. CleanSweep and Norton Tools are popular sellers (though I don't use 'em).

One last thing on IE: Microsoft offer free classes on customizing the behavior of IE. I've attended a few. There's a lot more available than just title bars and 'loading logos'. (NB: In fact, it is possible to alter IE's code maliciously from the Internet, by a number of different methods.) If AOL has a partnered browser based on IE, there could be a lot of internal workings different than a standard install, and the casual user would never be able to detect it. Not saying there is a lot different, just saying is all...

Final note: I still have IE installed on my computer, primarily because I want the operating system to work correctly. Removing IE from a Windows computer may cause undesirable behavior. I run Windows because I like to play a wide variety of cutting edge games; other platforms offer neither the quantity nor the quality in games.

But I never run IE; in fact I don't allow the browser to use my router to access the Internet. Too many holes. I use Firefox. And even at that I've managed to trap a couple of Java-based trojans (face it, there's no such thing as safe, only smart). When I want true Internet security, I boot from my Kill-Bill Linux CD-R and unmount all my HD's before enabling my cable. The Kill-Bill ISO is a free download; google it or go to g4tv's archives of Kevin Rose's Dark Tips and search on Kill-Bill.

As to the problem with AOL displaying an old page even after a complete reload has been forced by perfunctory cache flush, I'm buggered if I know. I'd tend to bet that it's an old page on AOL's web cache servers; but I ain't ruling out monkey business in the browser, either. I wish any AOL users who are suffering this problem good luck.

Just remember that there's a real Internet out there, unfiltered by Big Brother AOL, should you ever start to chafe at the continuous oversight of your browsing habits...


Respectfully,

zoid
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Sunday, June 5, 2005 12:12 PM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Quote:

Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

From her May 31st posting:
Quote:


... Wish we had more time to bomb around when we were there ...


Isn't it bumming around? or did I miss something about Denver?


Bombing around is driving around (with implied disregard of speedlimits, & interpreting STOP as an acronym).

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Hendrix, "Changes", from "Live @Fillmore East"

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Sunday, June 5, 2005 1:43 PM

JASONZZZ


Quote:

Originally posted by YT:

Bombing around is driving around (with implied disregard of speedlimits, & interpreting STOP as an acronym).

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Hendrix, "Changes", from "Live @Fillmore East"



Wow, I haven't heard of that slang used before. Is it regional (particularly UK)? Is it an older slang? I found a reference to it in a Beatle's archive - from an interview with Paul and a UK slang dictionary defined it as to travel or move about quickly...

S.T.O.P. - Sit, Think, Observe, Plan? Sorry, that's the only acronym of STOP I know about from my days in the service...





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Monday, June 6, 2005 9:27 AM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Quote:

Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Wow, I haven't heard of that slang used before. Is it regional (particularly UK)? Is it an older slang?


60s, Toronto & Chicago, don't know about elsewhere.

Quote:

S.T.O.P.

I apologize for indulging my penchant for obfuscation @your expense. Squeal Tires On Pavement

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) ZZ Top, "Heard It On the X", from "Rancho Texicano: Best" thereof

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Monday, June 6, 2005 6:36 PM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
I routinely reformat and reinstall Windows (about every six months) just to eliminate all the detritus, both on the hard drive and in the registry.


I'm not willing to work that hard, even though Windows is on a separate partition from almost everything else. I just replace my computer every couple of years, not for that reason, but I do appreciate that benefit.

Quote:

The only sure way to get rid of all IE's hoarded data files is by utilizing 3rd party software designed for that purpose. CleanSweep and Norton Tools are popular sellers (though I don't use 'em).


CleanSweep is part of Norton System Works. I run all six components every few weeks but, the only things it ever finds that I want to clean up are Plug-Ins & ActiveX controls that I no longer want. I set IE to keep no history & accept cookies only from domains I have approved; I still clear caches & cookies daily.

Quote:

But I never run IE; in fact I don't allow the browser to use my router to access the Internet. Too many holes. I use Firefox. And even at that I've managed to trap a couple of Java-based trojans (face it, there's no such thing as safe, only smart).


I downloaded Firefox Setup 1.0.1 (naturally I typed Firefly, and had to go back & edit) direct from Mozilla (as I recall -- it's been a few months). When I try to install it, I get error 7-Zip. Any advice?

Quote:

Just remember that there's a real Internet out there, unfiltered by Big Brother AOL, should you ever start to chafe at the continuous oversight of your browsing habits...


I have a browsing ID with no profile, that accepts no email, and I have a spare ID slot for creating one-time IDs. But I only used them for a few months. I prefer the convenience of using one ID for everything, including online purchasing, and have an account with several online vendors. I reckon there's a lot more entities than AOL accessing, & possibly recording, my browsing habits. I doesn't make me happy, but I've decided not to lose any sleep over it. For the same reason -- my convenience -- I have a driver's license, bank accounts, library cards (city & county systems), and do most of my purchasing by credit card. And I've given up trying to find a dentist or doctor that will accept me as an anonymous patient.

In ten years, I've never found a domain I wanted to access that was blocked by AOL.

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Allman Bro's, "Whippin' Post", from "One Way Out - Live @Beacon Theatre"

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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 8:00 AM

BRUISERSMOM


Does anyone know anything about the convention in December at the Century Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles that Jewel mentions in her blog from May 3?

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Wednesday, June 8, 2005 8:30 AM

HASUFEL


The Serenity Big Damn Flanvention

http://www.boosterevents.com/Default.aspx?tabid=171

Eight of nine cast members confirmed (Gina's the one not currently). It's pretty pricy - be prepared with a deep wallet if you're thinking of going.


Arizona Browncoats - http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/AZ_Browncoats/

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