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Serenity is Officially PG-13

POSTED BY: OXYOPIA
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 08:21
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Monday, June 27, 2005 3:02 PM

OXYOPIA


http://www.serenitymovie.com/

Check it out...middle of the bottom.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 3:32 PM

RKLENSETH


Yep saw that. After seeing the pre-screening I figured that. It was a hard PG-13 though. Definitely some minor R territory though that might get cut from the final cut.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 3:32 PM

ERELLEVENT


nice catch looks like ur the 1st to notice. Good thing its PG-13 but i hope they didnt have to cut anything out of it.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 3:42 PM

EMBERS


Oh I thought it was an easy PG-13 when I saw it,
they avoided having much blood or bad language, and less nudity than they put on TV.

Someone thought this meant they should push for an early release before the kids go back to school...but I don't know if Universal will be taking that into account.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 3:45 PM

GHOLA


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Originally posted by rklenseth:
It was a hard PG-13 though. Definitely some minor R territory though that might get cut from the final cut.


Like what? I didn't see anything that looked like it could have been rated R.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 3:50 PM

RKLENSETH


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Blood and violence at the end especially blood dripping from axe and the facial wounds that Mal had. I remember a larger blood splatter in the beginning when Mal shoots the man they left behind after the Reaver attack.



Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 4:21 PM

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The big impaling spoiler, as well as all the putting swords into people, and a few of the fight moves at the end between Mal and the Operative were especially brutal.



But I agree, I don't really think it's an R movie, I do think it is a PG-13 movie (it will be 14A in Canada).

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Monday, June 27, 2005 4:22 PM

G1223


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Blood and violence at the end especially blood dripping from axe and the facial wounds that Mal had. I remember a larger blood splatter in the beginning when Mal shoots the man they left behind after the Reaver attack.



Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.



It looked like a regular blood pack from my POV. But most of the violence is quick and blurry. This is definatly not Bourne Identity or a slasher flik on the violence or bloodshed level.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 5:10 PM

WHISPER


I expected an 'R' rating just for the intensity of the movie. PG-13 is a good rating though, it'll bring more people in.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 5:19 PM

G1223


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Originally posted by Whisper:
I expected an 'R' rating just for the intensity of the movie. PG-13 is a good rating though, it'll bring more people in.

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We would need a lot more skin and gouting of blood to get an R rating.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 7:06 PM

3HEADEDMONKEY


i thought the LOTR movies were more intense and violent than Serenity. It deserves the pg-13 rating. no big cuss words and no nudity, so it fits.

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Monday, June 27, 2005 7:24 PM

BIKISDAD


Yeah, I thought it was tamer than the tv show in some ways. I don't even see how an R rating could be considered.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:30 AM

SIMONWHO


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Originally posted by 3HeadedMonkey:
i thought the LOTR movies were more intense and violent than Serenity. It deserves the pg-13 rating. no big cuss words and no nudity, so it fits.



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In the version we saw in the UK, Mal told Inara "You f*** things up. You always do." Is that not still in there?


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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:41 AM

OXYOPIA


SimonWho,

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In both the May screenings in Boston, the word Mal says is 'fog'. It still fits in the context of their conversation, so I am glad they managed to work around this.



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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:50 AM

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Oh. That's actually a little disappointing because as you can imagine "f*** things up" made a real impact, particularly in the middle of all the pseudo-swears. Ah well, just goes to show how lucky we were to catch the first version. I wonder if I'll remember all the other bits that changed.

*hopes for unrated DVD release*


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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:23 AM

BLACKDOVE


No big shock on the PG-13. Lord of the Rings was much more violent with their battle sequences showing orc heads getting cut off left and right. While extremely intense, Serenity's violence doesn't dwell on blood and gore. Add to that no nudity, and most of the cussing keeps the chinese and the occassional "gorram", so overall it's safe for the kiddie poos.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:11 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I think PG-13 is the right rating & will get more people into the theatre to see it with that rating than an R. I personally don't see the R rating as there was nothing in particular that would warrant an R rating in my opinion.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:14 AM

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PG-13 seems about right.

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Are you sure that maybe they didn't just say 'fog' things up all along, and you just heard it the other way? Because from the context I think the other one was unnecessarily harsh (at least if I'm remembering the scene right), whereas 'fog' makes perfect sense for what happened.



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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:07 AM

ZNACHKI


As far as the language goes - you are allowed the use of one f*ck in a PG-13 movie. After that, it's pretty much automatic R

From the MPAA website:

A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context.

[url] www.mpaa.org [/url]

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:03 AM

CORNCOBB


Does anyone know what the rating might translate to in Britain?

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:01 AM

OLDIES2822


Quote:

Originally posted by ZNACHKI:
As far as the language goes - you are allowed the use of one f*ck in a PG-13 movie. After that, it's pretty much automatic R

From the MPAA website:

A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context.

[url] www.mpaa.org [/url]



That's actually quite funny, since Moonlight Mile had three fucks uttered.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:16 AM

SIMONWHO


I'm dead sure but then again, I'm open to somebody else at the British screenings telling me I'm a cloth eared fool.

PG-13 will probably be a 12A (meaning under twelves can get in with an adult). I suspect the BBFC might suggest some arbitrary cuts to the violence (Attack of the Clones was similarly censored/classified for a headbutt so they cut it out of movie but then put it on all the TV spots) but I shouldn't think it'll be a 15.

PG-13 is the ideal box office rating apparently (I seem to recall that for Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves they had Christian Slater's character say F*** just to ensure that it didn't get the wimpier PG).

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:32 AM

MASTERFULLHUNT


PG-13 gathers the largest audience, it is worth it, the extra goodies can go to DVD.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:56 PM

WHOISRIVER


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Originally posted by Corncobb:
Does anyone know what the rating might translate to in Britain?

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."



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12 or 12A is the target. If there's significant problems it could end up at 15, but I don't that'd be desired.

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It was definitely "fuck things up" said to Inara. It had a real impact.

There's also Jaynes Cock line which became Cobb.



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Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:20 PM

OXYOPIA


WhoIsRiver,

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Both Boston screenings in May had Jayne referring to his 'swinging cod' rather than cock. Might be another edit Joss made to fit into the PG-13 realm.



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Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:01 AM

CORNCOBB


Thanks SimonWho and WhoIsRiver.
Dunno whether to be glad or sorry about this. I'm glad that it'll likely get a bigger audience, which means more chance of sequals. But on the other hand, I'll have to put up with a load of nippers talking through the film. And it sounds like we're gonna miss out on some quality cussin', cos of the edits.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:46 AM

THEDARKSHAPE


According to krad, it was "fog" and "cod" in the script, let alone early cuts of the film.

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Tuesday, July 5, 2005 8:14 AM

MELEAUX


as far as blood and gore go i'm not too particular but going to see this movie with my teenage sons worries me in regards to sex scenes. i don't mind persoally, but it is a totally different expirence sitting there with my boys- any word on that front from those of you who've been to the screenings. btw i'm okay with spoilers (never could keep a secret)

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Tuesday, July 5, 2005 8:21 AM

NAKEDANDARTICULATE


No nudity,just one scene maybe and all that was kissin,and its a funny scene because someone "pops" in

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