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SciFi Channel is SUCKING!

POSTED BY: DUCESTECUM
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 14:46
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Friday, July 22, 2005 2:17 PM

DUCESTECUM


I know some of you will disagree. I can't help the way I feel. I am an adamant Firefly fan and can't stand seeing it treated like the red-headed stepchild as I have mentioned before. I have watched SciFi most of the week to see how much they are advertising. For example, last night between 6:00 pm and 8:00 pm they had one preview at 8:00 pm! The night before the show premieres!

Tonight as I watched a rerun of SG1 at 5:00 pm, there was ONE preview! The ONLY reason Firefly is on SciFi right now is because Universal owns the BDM.

A fellow coworker and I were talking about SG1 today, about what a YAWN it is. Every week they go to a different planet, meet all these people who speak PERFECT English, have a crisis and go home. YAWN Again. Tonight Carter could have ended the crisis 15 minutes into the show with a bullet to crazyman's head but failed to do so. blah, blah, blah, same ol, same ol.

Why do all of these so-called intelligent people fail to see how fresh and unique Firefly is? I am so tired of seeing our show treated like a second-hand citizen, kicked around and unappreciated. Okay, so I am nuts when it comes to Firefly. I will grant you that.

"And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an over-abundance of schooling." Mal, Train Job

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Friday, July 22, 2005 2:29 PM

DUCESTECUM


OH! And by the way, they left out Book's introduction also!

"And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an over-abundance of schooling." Mal, Train Job

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Friday, July 22, 2005 3:11 PM

ROCKETJOCK


Dude, neither Book's nor Mal's introduction ran with the original broadcast of the pilot; since it was the show that gave all the data the voice-over intros substituted for, it would have been redundant to run them together.

However... Thank you for griping anyway, since it's a solice to know the show is actually being broadcast back east.

Why? Because I'm sitting out here in California, waiting for the 7PM broadcast, but neiher the TV guide channel nor the digital menu show Firefly coming on at 7:00 PST.

Geez, they just ran a spot add for Battlestar: Galactica coming up next!

I'm praying that it just means someone forgot to change last weeks promo schedule...

I've got my tape ready anyway. (Got the box set, but I can always use loaner copies...)

Just hope I didn't get a certain old friend to set her Tivo for nothing...


"Do you know what the definition of a hero is? It's somebody who gets somebody else killed." -- Zoë Warren

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Friday, July 22, 2005 3:19 PM

RIVERGIRL



these showings are from the DVDs not the Fox airings

but they will be in order! and ALL episodes will be aired-- I gather interspersed with some promos, trailers, etc YAH!!!

hope the west coast got it aired!

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Friday, July 22, 2005 3:24 PM

SPACECOWGIRL


I hope you're not expecting widescreen. Cuz they aired a full-screen version.

"I aim to misbehave."

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Friday, July 22, 2005 3:24 PM

SPACECOWGIRL


I hope you're not expecting widescreen. Cuz they aired a full-screen version.

"I aim to misbehave."

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Friday, July 22, 2005 3:41 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


What they ran could not be from the dvd, since it was not in widescreen. Not only did they run a full-screen version, they also broke for commercials in some weird spots. And, unless I am crazy, there was some extra music thrown into a few scenes. Of course, it is possible that music was from the original broadcast of "Serenity," but I can't be sure because I never had a tape of that.




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Friday, July 22, 2005 4:17 PM

ROCKETJOCK


Well, I found out what happened here in sunny Cal. It seems that the West coat broadcast was at 4:00 PM, Four O'Clock in the FREAKING AFTERNOON ON A FRIDAY when every bit of posting on the web said it was showing at 7:00 PM ET/PT!

Instead they showed it at the same real-time on both coasts!

(And yes, I had thought to checked my digitial cable menu yesterday, And no, it didn't show Firefly at 7, but my cable provider is notorious for not updating changes in regular line-ups on specialty channels; a screwed-up listing was par for the course, or so I thought.)

Luckily, my friend with the Tivo had it set for the right time, and, further, has informed me that next week both halves of the Pilot will be broadcast starting at 3:00 PT, so I can still get a complete set of loaner copies (plus whatever ads/promos for Serenity may be attached.

Still -- It's a gorram bummer.

Gonna have to go out and find me a cat to kick.

"Do you know what the definition of a hero is? It's somebody who gets somebody else killed." -- Zoë Warren

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Friday, July 22, 2005 4:44 PM

MER


I'm beside myself on the commerical thing. On one side, I don't need to see it for time, just enjoyment, and the other, I do on account that non-Firefly people won't see it b/c it was advertised properly.

I think we have to the advertising ourselves by word of mouth like we always have.

I watch Sci-Fi channel, but mostly at random unles I see an advertised show/movie that seems pretty good. Otherwise, I'm usually on Comedy Central if anything.

The format and cutting is like on Angel on TNT. It's weird and formatted yes, but it's all there...just cut a bit strange for ad placement...I hope it doesn't include time cut like on The Simpsons reruns.

They didn't trim the episode for time, did they? And since it was Serenity P1, what was the end of it? I can't tell on my DVD version ^_^

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Friday, July 22, 2005 4:59 PM

G1223


Well it was what I expected. And yes we are the redheaded stepchild. We are not going to have anything like new episodes. We will get the chance to show off our show to other folks who might have missed it. So think of it as better than nothing recuiting ad.

Am I happy? No but it can be the start of something.

TANSTAAFL

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Friday, July 22, 2005 5:03 PM

WHITEFALL


Just fyi, according to the commentaries, the end of the first hour should be

'Huh.'

I don't know tho, i dont have cable.

"Some people juggle geese!" -Ancient Chinese proverb.

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Friday, July 22, 2005 6:31 PM

GOPHERMUNCHER


Quote:

Originally posted by RocketJock:
Well, I found out what happened here in sunny Cal. It seems that the West coat broadcast was at 4:00 PM, Four O'Clock in the FREAKING AFTERNOON ON A FRIDAY when every bit of posting on the web said it was showing at 7:00 PM ET/PT!

Instead they showed it at the same real-time on both coasts!

(And yes, I had thought to checked my digitial cable menu yesterday, And no, it didn't show Firefly at 7, but my cable provider is notorious for not updating changes in regular line-ups on specialty channels; a screwed-up listing was par for the course, or so I thought.)

Luckily, my friend with the Tivo had it set for the right time, and, further, has informed me that next week both halves of the Pilot will be broadcast starting at 3:00 PT, so I can still get a complete set of loaner copies (plus whatever ads/promos for Serenity may be attached.

Still -- It's a gorram bummer.



Actually it showed at 7 pm for me, I'm in Ca too but I don't have digital cable, I have regular extended cable or whatever it's called.

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Friday, July 22, 2005 6:45 PM

JELLO


Maybe it's just my crappy Cable box, I don't know for sure, but the quality of the show on SciFi looked all grainy, not clear at all.

Oh yeah, and does anyone have a pic of the chick singing Mal's Song? Her voice is beautiful and I just want to match a face to it. I've had the song on repeat for about an hour now, it's too great for words.

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Friday, July 22, 2005 6:49 PM

SPACECOWGIRL


Quote:

They didn't trim the episode for time, did they? And since it was Serenity P1, what was the end of it?


There was nothing cut, I'll give them that. As for where part 1 ended, I can't remember--as soon as it was over I got out my DVD and finished the rest. Let's just say it left you wanting to see the rest. That's good for keeping those new viewers tuning in or buying the DVDs.



"I aim to misbehave."

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Friday, July 22, 2005 6:49 PM

SPACECOWGIRL


Quote:

They didn't trim the episode for time, did they? And since it was Serenity P1, what was the end of it?


There was nothing cut, I'll give them that. As for where part 1 ended, I can't remember--as soon as it was over I got out my DVD and finished the rest. Let's just say it left you wanting to see the rest. That's good for keeping those new viewers tuning in or buying the DVDs.



"I aim to misbehave."

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Friday, July 22, 2005 6:50 PM

PAINISSCARY


It aired at 7 pm on Comcast digital cable in L.A.

Surprised to discover they weren't airing it widescreen, especially since the rest of Sci-Fi's Friday night shows (the two Stargates and Galactica) are broadcast 16:9. To quote Jayne, "Don't make no sense."

I have the DVDs (two sets, in fact), so I can see it properly whenever I want, but you'd think Universal would air it the way it was meant to be seen, so as to best show off the program and attract potential Browncoats and new viewers.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Friday, July 22, 2005 6:50 PM

PAINISSCARY


It aired at 7 pm on Comcast digital cable in L.A.

Surprised to discover they weren't airing it widescreen, especially since the rest of Sci-Fi's Friday night shows (the two Stargates and Galactica) are broadcast 16:9. To quote Jayne, "Don't make no sense."

I have the DVDs (two sets, in fact), so I can see it properly whenever I want, but you'd think Universal would air it the way it was meant to be seen, so as to best show off the program and attract potential Browncoats and new viewers.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Friday, July 22, 2005 8:10 PM

11THHOUR


I live in L.A. and have satellite service with Dish Network. This service gives the West Coasters the East Coast feed, so Firefly airs at 4:00 p.m. A time slot like that is not exactly prime time...

Often cable/satellite stations will repeat the 3 hour block of programs between 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. This allows the PT folks to get the same prime time schedule as the ET folks. But Firefly isn't scheduled in this 3 hour block, so it's only shown once.

It'd be great if Sci-Fi would rebroadcast Firefly on another night during the week in the 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. time period. That way it would get a better time slot AND be part of the 3 hour block repeat.

Oh yeah, as long as I'm getting persnickity, the widescreen is really needed for Firefly. All the shots were set up for widescreen and too many times things and people kept getting cut off.

And the "world premiere" of the Serenity trailer next week may not be entirely accurate. "E" showed the trailer on one of their movie preview shows a few weeks ago.

Firefly gets back on TV, and somehow there's still plenty to whinge about!

11th Hour

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Friday, July 22, 2005 8:20 PM

DEDE4WD


The good news is that the small 15 second serenity commercial said they would be TV premiering the Serenity trailer during next week's episode of Firefly.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:57 PM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Quote:

Originally posted by 11thHour:
All the shots were set up for widescreen


The entire series was filmed widescreen but, after the pilot (which the FOX network didn't want to air), all scenes were framed to look good in pan & scan, and a most contain no information in the outlying 1/4 frame. @least that's the way I recall it being explained on the DVD. Notwithstanding David Boyd's brilliant framing (& he is an experienced TV 'tographer), once I've seen something wide, I dislike watching it @4:3

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:28 PM

KNIBBLET


Last night during the Stargate episodes, I must have seen 6 Firefly ads. Relax, take a pill. Be grateful that they're showing it at all.

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/MN-Firefly/

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Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:46 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by YT
The entire series was filmed widescreen but, after the pilot (which the FOX network didn't want to air), all scenes were framed to look good in pan & scan, and a most contain no information in the outlying 1/4 frame. @least that's the way I recall it being explained on the DVD. Notwithstanding David Boyd's brilliant framing (& he is an experienced TV 'tographer), once I've seen something wide, I dislike watching it @4:3



I seem to remember the commentary from the DVD (at least regarding the pilot Serenity) was Joss saying that he purposely framed the shots to be seen in widescreen. He made a point of mentioning that one of the first scenes he filmed was the shot where Mal and Simon confront each other on the catwalks of the cargo bay. Joss set it up so that each of them was positioned at the extreme opposite ends of the frame. Joss was making the most of the long aspect ratio of the widescreen format. That shot, among others, will suffer greatly from the ruttin' pan and scan.

I really wish Sci-Fi would air Firefly in widescreen, the way it was meant to be seen.

11thHour

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