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Serenity² - 'Let's Not Be Excluding People. That'd Be Rude.'

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:17 AM

SERENITYPUNK


its quite a good movie actually

one of those that makes you question everything you just saw

like that..american psycho film, that just mind f***ed me

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:23 AM

SPIRITGAL


i liked that american psycho,if like is the correct word but i was like huh

and donnie darko finally watched that and again with the huh...better than i thought it would be tho and jake gyllenhall mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

so chocolate anyone?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:26 AM

RELFEXIVE


'Mulholland Drive' is a US film, I think. Not having seen it, I couldn't really say for certain.

"My God - you're like a trained ape. Without the training."

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:33 AM

FRAY101


Yep - American. Directed by David Lynch. One of Naomi Watts first big roles.

Although, er, I haven't seen it.

Hmmm, American Psycho - was it real or was it his imagination? And do we care so long as Christian Bale is naked?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:33 AM

RELFEXIVE


I watched Donnie Darko when it was on a few weeks ago. On the surface it looks like

Select to view spoiler:


"odd boy develops strange powers and kills self earlier in time at the end of the movie to save the girl he loves"

but there's more to it than that. And any movie that requires you to listen closely to the director's commentary and work through the official website to work out what it's really all about is a bit too much, if you ask me.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:35 AM

SPINLAND


Hmm, I've not seen any of those films. I'm so uncultured.

Which board is the "UB" one; is that the one at browncoats.serenitymovie.com?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:35 AM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by fray101:
Hmmm, American Psycho - was it real or was it his imagination? And do we care so long as Christian Bale is naked?



From talking to a fan of both the book and the movie, I think it's supposed to be all in his head...

Again, another film I've not seen. So many movies, so little time...

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:37 AM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Spinland:
Which board is the "UB" one; is that the one at browncoats.serenitymovie.com?



I reckon so. Stands for 'Universal Board' I should think.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:38 AM

FRAY101


When it was on TV, did they show the regular version or the Director's Cut? I've only seen the original so far, although I have bought the DC (pretty flashy holographic cover and all) but haven't got round to watching it yet.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:40 AM

RELFEXIVE


I reckon it was just the regular version. If it had been the DC I think they would have said so.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 3:54 AM

SPIRITGAL


kinda makes you think and get involved when you have to searcch places for the answers

me i like the obvious chick flicks - no thinking needed there at all...plus usually v fit men (matthew mcconnaghey sp?) so always worth a look



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Thursday, September 1, 2005 4:17 AM

SERENITYPUNK


mmmmmmmmmmm

Matthew McCoughney hmmmmm hmmmmmm


you just would

i liked american psycho and yes christian bale nekkid, makes that film worth seeing over and over again

donnie darko i saw twice, and my brain hurt each time. not worth it


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Thursday, September 1, 2005 4:28 AM

FRAY101


Ooh, more lovely shiny Cafe Press sales....

Whoop Whoop!

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 4:37 AM

CITIZEN


As a rough guess I'd say donnie darko was him seeing his life pass before his eyes, just kinda in reverse...

Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 4:47 AM

SPIRITGAL


i thought it was something like that, but then with the hypnosis and the rabbit thing i was just huh

mmmmmmmmm nekked christian and matthew good job i aint got no work to do..mmmmmmmmmmmm

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:02 AM

RELFEXIVE


The supposed official version is horrifically complicated, and I'll put it in as a spoiler thingy for those who've not seen the film yet:

Select to view spoiler:


An inexplicable event (the jet engine falling from nowhere) causes a corruption that will destroy the universe unless the Living Receiver (Donnie) controls the powers he now has and is successfully convinced by Dead Manipulators (eg dead rabbit Frank), Living Manipulators (pretty much everyone else from the science teacher to his friends) and by events to explain the inexplicable event, in this case by creating a wormhole to take the engine off the plane his family is on and send it back through time to justify it's earlier appearance. He is ultimately convinced to do so by the fact that the chain of events throughout the movie, many of which were instigated by Donnie himself, lead to him meeting the girl he comes to love and then to her death, and that by changing things, and perhaps by killing himself too, he can stop her death from happening.

All this Living Receiver/Manipulator/wormhole stuff comes from the 'Philosophy Of Time Travel' book Donnie is given by the science teacher, which is not real, of course, but can be heard being talked about in the commentary and read about on the official website.



Makes my head hurt sometimes.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:03 AM

CALLMESERENITY


I'm having Elevenses!

Well, really, I'm just eating a banana. BUT! It's 11 o'clock. So it counts, right?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:04 AM

SIMONWHO


Gah, no spoilers for Donnie Darko, I've not seen it yet (keep meaning to but you know life and stuff).

Although it's probably passed its standard no spoiler limit really.

So, if Mulholland Drive is right, that person has to do the next one...

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:09 AM

RELFEXIVE


I've tried to keep the waffle out of plain view for folks like you



But is 'Mulholland Drive' right?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:10 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


The post office closes at noon? That's pants!
(did I use pants correctly?)


My kooky cousin, yes I have kooky relatives, is arriving today. I haven’t seen her in prolly five or six years...not including funerals. The last time I spent any time with her she was moving to New Orleans. Don't worry, she has since moved back to her native California. So, what should I do with her tonight? What if she's not kooky anymore? She's about nine months younger than me, so when we were younger and both living in California, we did everything together. But time and growing can change even the best of cousins....argh, ideas?


Maybe I'll just feed her chocolate and vodka and tape her to a chair to watch Firefly.




fyi: the sweet potato pie was a HUGE hit. The pies were gone before I knew it. In fact, some of my coworkers have asked me to make some for them. I love cooking; it's the transportation of goods that I hate.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:10 AM

SPIRITGAL


OMG thats so confusing!

may be i wont watch it again and just stick with non thinking chick flicks

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:11 AM

SPINLAND


Very weird. I've got better things to do than sit through such a tangled mess of a story. Maybe that's why I've seen none of these films, and have even heard of maybe one of them: I'm very picky about what I'll spend time watching, and generally have to be convinced ahead of time before I'll give something a chance. People rave about some film or TV show, and when I hear what it's about I rate it 'meh.' I don't bother to turn the box on for 'meh.'

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:19 AM

FRAY101


Given that noone really seems to understand Donnie Darko I think you're quite safe avoiding spoilers - will all be pure speculation! Oh, apart from the bit where....

Anyhoo, back to Mulholland Drive. Assuming that's where we're supposed to be of course.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:20 AM

RELFEXIVE


The thing is, almost all of it is never explained. Frank never really is, the powers aren't, what the 'Philosophy Of Time Travel' actually says is not made clear or even really mentioned. But you can see the chain of events, how each thing that happens and each thing Donnie does leads to the final step. It's only a mess when you try and add in the extra detail, though once it is added you go "huh... okay" and then, y'know, get on with your life.

It's interesting, like those really deep articles in the magazine 'New Scientist', but you don't really get what it all means and don't feel compelled to try harder.

"My God - you're like a trained ape. Without the training."

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:20 AM

SPINLAND


I think that's a street in Los Angeles; beyond that, I'm drawing a blank. There's a movie about it?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:21 AM

CALLMESERENITY


TWG: I beg for the recipe. It would mean the pants to me!

Who started the pants thing anyway? I read the thread a few days ago.

Someone post a new movie for us to fail to guess!

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:28 AM

FRAY101


TWG - to be fair to the Post Office, they actually close at 12.30 - which is soooooo much better. And yes, congrats on the correct use of "pants"!

(OK, "funny" (sad?) story - I shall confess to watching a (pretty poor) pirate of The Phantom Menace before the film came out. Anyhow, you know the bit near the end when ickle Anakin is in the fighter? Well I could have sworn he said "This is pants!" Turns out it was "intense"...Anyway, the moral is, don't watch pirate movies! Or The Phantom Menace (although I actually don't mind it personally)).

If that is my ticket, Sean Harry owes me £1.21!! Or access to the Meet & Greet. I'd settle for that!!

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:34 AM

RELFEXIVE


I've only ever watched two pirate movies.

First, ET, waaay back in the early days of video.

Second, I have an unwatched pirate vid of The Phantom Menace somewhere; the first minute or two put me off as the badly-filmed-in-a-cinema quality of it was just awful.


Oh, and third: Pirates Of The Caribbean *ba-doom chish*

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:37 AM

SPINLAND


"Pants" just makes me think of Wallace & Gromit and The Wrong Trousers.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:38 AM

RARELYEARLEY


Mulholland Drive: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166924/

The term "pants" in the English vernacular is akin to "sucks" in the American.
A more explosive and stronger exortation is "Knickers" which has some very satisfying hard consonants.
Usage: Pants: "oh no, I don't want to watch Hollyoaks, its pants"
Knickers: (hits thumb with hammer) "S&*t, f*&k, knickers!"

The more we understand each others' idioms and swearwords, the more hormonious will be our relations.




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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:40 AM

FRAY101


But they were trousers, not pants.

Can't stress how important it is for any visiting Americans not to get these things mixed up!

OK, hands up how many people would actually say "knickers" if they hit their thumb with a hammer. Anyone? Anyone?!

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:45 AM

SPIRITGAL


of course, all the time - no really, honestly

ok no never...more like F&*k or something

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:45 AM

SIMONWHO


Pants is a great word (i.e. underpants or rubbish for non-Brits). If you doubt me, check out how vastly improved the following lines from Star Wars are by the simple substitution of one word with the word 'pants':

"I find your lack of pants disturbing." - Darth Vader

"These pants are now the ultimate power in the Universe. I suggest we use them." - Motti

"Governor Tarkin, I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash. I recognized your foul pants when I was brought on board." - Leia

"Lock the door." - Luke "And hope they don't have pants." - Han

"You came in those pants? You're braver than I thought." - Leia

"Uh...Threepio, hand me those pants there will you? Okay. Now, I'm going to put these on you . . . Okay. Han, you put these on." - Luke

"With the pants down, I can't see a thing, how am I supposed to fight?" - Luke

"Jabba's through with you. He has no time for smugglers who drop their pants at the first sign of an Imperial Cruiser." - Greedo

"He suggests that if you remove his pants, he might be able to play back the entire recording." - Threepio

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:51 AM

SPINLAND


Nix on the knickers, for me. My swearing would resort to the real deal.

So what is the difference between pants and trousers?

SimonWho: ROFLMAO!

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:52 AM

FRAY101


Matt, when you get back from (shudder) work, make sure you read this:

http://www.seanharry.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10655&st=15

Just might interest you....!

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 5:57 AM

RARELYEARLEY


Well, I did last night.

Admittedly, I didn't hit it hard.

Reminds me of the old adage that it would take a very strong willed atheist that, when hitting their head on the corner of a cupboard door shouts,"Aaargh, outmoded figurehead of a redundant and oppressive belief structure!".




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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:08 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Trousers are pants.
Pants are underwear.

Never tell a Brit your pants are wet…


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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:08 AM

CALLMESERENITY


There's still that one line in Safe that I can't figure out. It's when Mal et al are rescuing Simon and River from being burned at the stake after the "She's our witch. Cut her the hell down." line. Mall turns to Simon and says something but I can never understand it and whoever did the subtitles couldn't understand it either because it shows it as "incoherent mumbling" or somesuch.

Anyone got any clues?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:21 AM

SIMONWHO


Believe it or not, this is actually specifically mentioned in the Firefly IMDB trivia page:

The garbled line Mal speaks to Simon in the episode "Safe" as they are about to burned at the stake is "Your talent for alienating folks is near miraculous," to which he responds "Yes, I'm very proud."

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:25 AM

SERENITYPUNK


but he says that before the cut her down bit dosnt he

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:27 AM

CALLMESERENITY


It's like the heavens have parted and divine light is shining down, illuminating the unknown.

Thanks Dr. Smartypants. I've always wondered what that line is. Now that you told me it, I remember that all I can here is "Well, Simon garble garble garble near miraculous."


And now I'll know it for future trivia.


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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:33 AM

CALLMESERENITY


Quote:

Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Trousers are pants.
Pants are underwear.



So today I'm wearing pants...and pants? Well, I might not be wearing pants, but I'm definitely wearing pants. Unless I'm not. And actually, I'm not wearing pants either, I'm wearing a skirt. But I'm definitely wearing pants. I think.

Are pants specifically male or female or both?

But I don't like to use the word trousers. It sounds so...tweedy. And I HATE slacks. It's not a pretty word. Such a harsh A. So I usually refer to them by what they are. Jeans, cords, khakis, cargos.

Need food. And chocolate.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:37 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


I solve it by not wearing pants with my pants. It's quite obvious, to me anyway, what pants I mean.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:37 AM

SIMONWHO


Generally pants = male underwear. But women often use it, just because it is such a great word.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:42 AM

SPINLAND


I shall consider myself illuminated.

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:54 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


woohoo!

I'm meeting my crazy aunt for lunch in a few minutes. She tells me she'll have the bottle of wine on the table when I get there! She's so much fun. The youngest girl of 8 daughters and number 11 of 13 kids. She's the wild child.


I wonder if I'll be able to drive home?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 6:57 AM

THEDUKE


okay, i understand most of the people here live in the south of england.
i am about to make a statement based upon personal experience which i am prepared to be corrected upon by anyone who thinks i am incorrect, i may well be.

The use of pants as a word for underpants is not an overly big thing here in the north! and pants do kind of refer to overgarments on ones legs for male or female (and not exclusively superheros whith a superman dress sense) Undergarments can be one of the following: boxers, y'ees (or y fronts), knickers or those string things (yes, i know they're called thongs) i may have missed summat out, but ...

now, i personally do use the word pants as both a swear word and as a descriptive word, but not overly regularly.

anyhow!



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Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:26 AM

RELFEXIVE


I know it's our least favourite topic... but I have these jokes just sitting here and not doing anything!


1. What do you call a chav in a box ?

Innit.


2 . What do you call a chav in a filing cabinet ?

Sorted


3. What do you call a chav in a box with a lock on it ?

Safe.


4. What do you call an Eskimo chav ?

Innuinnit.


5. Why are Chavs like slinkies ?

They have no real use but it's great to watch one fall down a flight of stairs.


6. What do you call a Chavette in a white tracksuit ?

The bride.


7. You're in your car and you see a Chav on a bike, why should you try not to hit him ? <

It might be your bike.


8. What's the difference between a Chav and a coconut ?

One's thick and hairy, the other's a coconut.


9. What's always the first question at a Chav quiz night ?

"What you lookin' at?"


10. How do you get 100 Chavs into a phone box ?

Paint it bright yellow and stick a spoiler on it.


11. Two Chavs in a car without any loud music. Who's driving ?

The police


12. What do you call a chav with 9 GCSE's?

A liar.


13. What do you say to a chav with a job?

Can I have a big mac please ?


14. What do you say to a chav in a suit ?

"Will the defendant please stand"


15. What do u call a knife in chaville ?

Exhibit A


16. Why is 3 chavs going over a cliff in a Nova a shame ?

A Nova seats 4 or 5


17. What do you call a 30 year old chavette ?

A Granny.


18. What do you call 100 chavs at the bottom of a river ?

A start.


19. Why did the chav take a shower ?

He didn't mean to, he just forgot to close the Nova's window in the car wash


20. Why did the Chav cross the road ?

To start a fight


21. What do you call a Chav at college ?

The cleaner.


24. Two chavs jump off beachy head, who wins ?

Society


23. A bus full of Chavs were driving through Wales. As they were approaching Llanfgogogferrinfourasoch they started arguing about the pronunciation of the town's name. They argued back and forth until they stopped for lunch. As they stood at the counter, one Chav asked the blonde employee, "Before we order, could you settle an argument for us? Would you please pronounce where we are... very slowly?" - The blonde girl leaned over the counter and said, "Burrrrrrrr-gerrrrrrr-Kiiiiing."

"My God - you're like a trained ape. Without the training."

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:29 AM

FRAY101


Roll up, roll up, win a t-shirt:

http://www.destinything.com/id152.html

Although I'm still sulking that some people get to give away 2 prizes :(

Jaina - will you give both prizes to the same person or have 2 winners?

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Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:30 AM

SERENITYPUNK


bleedin northerners

no idea of wot talking proper is like

*says the girl who had guildhall eliza dolittle type lessons to rid her of her london accent.*

id just like to say i have just cut my leg really really deep, went to docs cause well he is nice and saw me right away and he glued me!! and put lil butterfly stitches on. told me to spend the evening with me leg in the air (to which i winked and said 'again!') and gave me a weeks worth of aspirin.

i am mortally wounded and need to have 2 weeks off for a fortnight. (hands up who momentarilly thought about telling me that was the same thing)






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