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BDM Double Meanings
Monday, October 10, 2005 7:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by signine:
On the other hand, I don't know if it was intended this way or not, but when River and Mal take Serenity up (after presumeably weeks of repairs), you see the dinosaurs still on the console.
On the other hand, we never see the crew return to Serenity, we only see her taking off after repairs are complete, and those silly dinosaurs are still on the console. Is that Mal giving props to Wash, did everyone just forget about that? Is Zoe cool with seeing reminders of her dead husband everywhere? Serenity was fixed up, isn't it possible Wash could have been? I can see him demanding having a grave if he couldn't show up for the funeral.
It makes sense to ME anyway.
Monday, October 10, 2005 9:30 PM
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:40 AM
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:39 AM
So I've got an interesting one for you, it's been mentioned that Wash will appear in any sequel to Serenity. It would follow then that we're either going to have a crazy Whedon moment (Wash's clone! Wash was a robot and the real Wash is in captivity! Wash's Ghost!), actually that would be a crazy writing moment, apart from Whedon, or Wash survived.
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:57 AM
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MrsEmbassy:
I have a different take on Mal's conversation with Book. I've seen the film six times now, and I'm more and more convinced that Book isn't refusing to tell Mal his background; he's acknowledging that Mal already knows.
The exchange that immediately preceded those lines (Mal: "How does a shepherd know so much about that line of work?" Book: "I wasn't always a Shepherd.") is Book practically coming right out and TELLING Mal that he was an operative; so when Mal says, "You'll have to tell me about that someday," and Book replies, "No, I don't." He's basically saying, "No, I don't need to tell you... BECAUSE I JUST TOLD YOU."
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:51 AM
written by RelFlexive:
Everything strange said by River means something.
1) "I swallowed a bug" - barnswallow
2) "He didn't lie down... they never lie down" - Reavers were the ones who didn't lie down and die on Miranda
3) "Show me off like a dog... old men covered in blood, it doesn't touch them but they're drowning in it" - can't remember the exact words just now, but obviously refers to those key members of Parliament.
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:14 PM
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:13 AM
Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Unicorn:
Wash's death made sure everyone in the theatre thought, "Oh God, Oh God, They're all going to die!"
Sunday, October 16, 2005 1:24 PM
Monday, October 17, 2005 3:58 AM
Monday, October 17, 2005 6:01 AM
Monday, October 17, 2005 6:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by GreenFaerie:
I only got this on my second viewing... and REALLY got it on my third. When the crew is on Miranda, after River freaks out and Jayne says (like) "All these people died for no reason!"
As his words finish, the camera is on Wash for a full beat: silence.
A beat later, a close-up on Wash as he delivers the next line. But that first beat on Wash, "... died for no reason!" Wow. That's cinematic foreshadowing at its best. (Of course there was a reason plot-wise, but to them, and most of us, it was a senseless death).
Monday, October 17, 2005 7:07 AM
Monday, October 17, 2005 7:32 AM
Monday, October 17, 2005 7:43 AM
Friday, February 17, 2006 3:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by fireflyfan70:
I agree with the first and 3rd idaes but not the second. When Mal said they won't see this coming I think he was referring to the Reaver fleet.
I do have another double meaning that I think has been overlooked tho. Early in the movie when they are getting ready for the heist at the trading station, Mal asks River if she understands her part in this. She relpys to him "Do you?"
To me that statement had more than one meaning. River asking Mal if he understood his part in what to come( the rest of the story) and also her role in the big picture, not just the heist.
Friday, February 17, 2006 4:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by iamaleafonthewind:
The only thing I think I could really add at this point is that when Mal says that "they won't see this coming", I more or less gathered that he was referring to the video recording that they had just obtained. Mal intents to make sure that it gets out into the public's hands, and there's no way the Allience could see it coming 'cause they don't even know it exitsts. And that ties in with all the stuff about Book's death giving him a purpose as well. From the moment he gets that recording he know's exactly what he has to do. And it ties into the whole "can't stop the signal" thing too.
Friday, February 17, 2006 4:10 PM
Now I am learning about scary.
Quote:Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Very appropriate and in adding "Watch me soar" gave his death a very liberating almost upbeat note despite that my stomach is still in knots two days after seeing it and the scene made me so emotional I was unable to go to the second showing i'd intended. I'm still looking for my "Wash's death support group" made up of browncoats who liked the movie, everyone who seems to be affected by it as much as myself has turned against the rest of the film because of it.
Friday, February 17, 2006 8:55 PM
Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:44 AM
Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:52 AM
Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:29 AM
Quote:Also, thought I'd mention another BDM double meaning while I was here. At the end of Serenity when the Operative says, "Its not over you know." I felt in the instant before he went on talking about the alliance coming after Mal that it was Joss saying something to the fans, that the story isn't over yet, the movie might be, but the story isn't. Just what I thought though.
Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Also, thought I'd mention another BDM double meaning while I was here. At the end of Serenity when the Operative says, "Its not over you know." I felt in the instant before he went on talking about the alliance coming after Mal that it was Joss saying something to the fans, that the story isn't over yet, the movie might be, but the story isn't. Just what I thought though.
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