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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:08 AM

TERRIFRIED


for a follow-up to my BSG question (which has sparked some controversy between the 70s series and the sci-fi series fans), how do you guys think farscape holds as a firefly fix?

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:30 AM

MAL4PREZ


I may get rotten fruit thrown at me for this...

It won't work as a fix for me, not a jot. I watched Farscape before I knew Firefly and was decently entertained, but I had to talk myself out of being annoyed by many things. Something I'm used to doing, because sci-fi TV series have always had those gorram irritating things.

Nowadays, Firefly and BSG have proven that TV sci-fi can be entirely watchable, beginning to end, without significant amounts of eye-rolling.

I just can't handle any other TV sci-fi.



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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:35 AM

STORYMARK


Farscape is an incredible show. I highly recommend it. Doesn't really have too much in common with Firefly, other than the sci-fi setting, but it's a hell of a fun show.

You have to have a bit of a tolerance for the surreal, as their plots get a bit "out there" at times. And you have to have a very high tolerance for muppets, but it has some great characters who evolve a great deal over time, along with some great effects and very entertaining storylines.

And IMO, next to Darth Vader, Scorpius is about the coolest villain in sci-fi.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:46 AM

KAELE


Scorpius Rocks.

And Ben Browder is serious competition for Nathan.

The only downside to Farscape is that unless you see it from the beginning, it's hard to get. Firefly's a lot easier to hop in the middle of.

~Kaele

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:47 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
And IMO, next to Darth Vader, Scorpius is about the coolest villain in sci-fi.



OK, I agree with that. I'll watch any episode Scorpius is in!

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:49 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Kaele:
The only downside to Farscape is that unless you see it from the beginning, it's hard to get. Firefly's a lot easier to hop in the middle of.



But it has no middle, just a beginning that ends!

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:55 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kaele:
Scorpius Rocks.

The only downside to Farscape is that unless you see it from the beginning, it's hard to get. Firefly's a lot easier to hop in the middle of.

~Kaele



Good point, that. I actually started watching Farscape at the beginning of the 3rd year, but I was up to speed after just a few episodes.

I'm guessing, had Firefly been allowed to continue, it would be just as hard to jump-in, given the track record of Joss' previous shows.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 12:00 PM

DAVEC5


Quote:

Originally posted by terrifried:
how do you guys think farscape holds as a firefly fix?



i watch just about any thing related to scifi... i thought Farscape was really brilliant at first, with all the Henson co. characters...

as the series progressed it lost me a bit, but i would tune in to watch Chiana...

i really can't see Farscape as a replacement for Firefly cause they're so different, but there were some outstanding episodes of Farscape and i will continue to watch it in rerunville...

what i don't understand, is why the SciFi channel can't bankroll another Firefly series...i mean they show Stargate like a billion times a week....and that show stinks (sorry SG1 fans...just my opinion...) Firefly is so unlike anything in scifi... I keep looking for the really good scifi programs...ok, like the best scifi movie i can think of was Blade Runner - the first Alien was very good...
TV shows are really lame most of the time - i guess that's why Firefly made such an impression - it's just so good...

ok...after the rant, to answer your question...Farscape can't replace Firefly...for me anyway...

not that there's anything wrong with that...



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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 12:01 PM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION


I never could get in to Farscape. It was OK, but something never really clicked with me. It is worth trying though...everyone likes something different.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 12:29 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by davec5:
[Bwhat i don't understand, is why the SciFi channel can't bankroll another Firefly series...i mean they show Stargate like a billion times a week....and that show stinks (sorry SG1 fans...just my opinion...) Firefly is so unlike anything in scifi... I keep looking for the really good scifi programs...ok, like the best scifi movie i can think of was Blade Runner - the first Alien was very good...
TV shows are really lame most of the time - i guess that's why Firefly made such an impression - it's just so good...

ok...after the rant, to answer your question...Farscape can't replace Firefly...for me anyway...

not that there's anything wrong with that...



...and we all shine on...



Same old story, it's not the quality, it's the ratings.

Especially with a channel like SciFi, who cancelled Farscape after the 4th season, even though they had already greenlit and publicly announced season 5. Why? Because it slipped from 1st to frelling 2nd in their ratings.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 12:36 PM

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I'm guessing, had Firefly been allowed to continue, it would be just as hard to jump-in, given the track record of Joss' previous shows.



totally agree! for the first seen of Farscape you can watch the episodes in any order and they make sense...if Firefly had gotten it's well deserved chance to continue it probably would have gotten more complicated to "jump into"

complicated plots are a double edged sword though, it's what made Farscape great and also probably what killed it as it was much more difficult to "pick up" the story after season 2

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 12:46 PM

HOEPERATIVE


I suspect that Firefly owed quite a lot to Farscape.

The idea of a crew that's forced together by necessity and liable to backstab and disagree with each other... I remember Farscape was this grand cure for Star Trek dullness when it came along.

Plus this idea of the ship being another character (granted, this is somewhat more important in farscape.)

I loved the show, big fan of Browder- but slowly lost interest after the second season. The humour started to ebb away from the script. The muppets stopped being cool and amusing and started getting in the way of suspension of disbelief, which I needed more as the series became increasingly serious and less jokey.

Firefly, to me, is much the superior show.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 1:34 PM

SICKDUDE


Much the same comments as everyone else: Farscape and Firefly are two different animals. For me personally, Farscape was good and worth viewing, but rarely reached it's full potential.

However, it's strongpoint is everything felt really, really alien. Nothing was familiar, and you always got the feeling our human protagonist, Crichton, was a long way from anything remotely home-like. That and one of the best true "aliens" since the Vorlons! IMO.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 1:54 PM

GIXXER


It was dead good for oneliners. Crichton was always outclassed and just hanging in there or getting out of trouble by being human.

One of my favourite bits was when the crew were criticising the crap standard of human senses and casually demonstrated reading the makers name off a sink or something that was miles away.


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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 2:23 PM

MISBEHAVE


Farscape is absolutely a great firefly fix. Like Hoperative said, its similar to firefly because the crew is such a diverse mess. It also has extraordinary writing and acting.

The key to watching it is to go with whatever is being shown. It also helps to see the alien characters more as characters, not as aliens. I showed it to a friend, and he was startled by the aliens. I had forgotten that they were aliens; they were just other characters to me. Suspension of disbelief (if thats the phrase) is pivitol.

It also (due to its longer running time) managed to do what Firefly could not, and that is huge, season spaning arcs. This makes for incredible television.

But you should start midway through season one (with DNA Mad Scientist). This is when the show really found its way (after a few earlier eps., in which it stumbled around.

For any Sci-Fi or Firefly fan, Farscape is must-see tv

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 2:39 PM

PROSERPINE


Quote:

Originally posted by Gixxer:
Crichton was always outclassed and just hanging in there or getting out of trouble by being human.



Although Farscape and Firefly have a few similarities - ship of criminals on the edges of space just trying to get along with one another - the way in which each relates to its human audience is different. Firefly's appeal lies in the unchallenged humanity of its characters and universe, whereas Farscape comments on humanity by juxtaposing Crichton against his alien friends and enemies. It's a real task to represent all that is good and bad about humankind with just one character, but Farscape manages it very nicely. It also doesn't hurt that the aliens are more strange in appearance than anything else.

Um, yeah, so I totally recommend Farscape!

(And Aeryn is my favorite character.)

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 7:09 AM

CYBERSNARK


Then there's that S4 episode where they reach Earth, and the alien characters actually do comment on humanity --it's set up like a TV news special, with interviews of the crew.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 11:49 AM

SERYN


yeah, they did some brilliant things with formats and styles and allsorts, they just didn't seem afraid at all of experimentation, It didn't always work, but they had a bloody good crack at it. I loved the animatronics as well, after a while Sparky and Pilot just cease to be 'muppets' and just become characters, like the human cast.

Also three cheers for their handling of the whole romantic together-but-not situation - they let the relationship develop but didn't bore the audience, they kept them apart but kept the chemistry sizzling, and hey, 10/10 for inventiveness!

Somebody mentioned SG1 though - its not a bad show, I do enjoy it, but is anyone else enjoying it much more now that Ben and Claudia are in it? (and now that Daniel has developed some balls, but, whole other rant...)

Also, take yesterdays episode

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Vala, using that communication thingie bob jumps into Daniel, eight months plus pregnant, and after a quick jaunt to check out the half naked men in the locker room (in Daniels body still, oh imagine the fun he's going to have explaining that one) proceeds to tell her story about getting immaculately knocked-up by the priors only know who, marrying some guy, helping in plots to blow up thousands of people, and finally setting sail for Earth in the enemy ships. In an extremely funny roundabout (mostly techno-babble free) way.



I mean, what was an almost totally expositional and potentially dire episode was made so entertaining. I couldn't believe it. Methinks its not just Farscapes cast that SG1 have borrowed.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 12:10 PM

STORYMARK


Another point I'll raise about Farscape, is that it found, IMO, the best way - or a least a new one - in which to kill off a major character on the show, without actually getting rid of them.

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I thought the 2 Johns sub-plot in season 3 was a lot of fun. A clever way of giving signifigant screen time to all the characters, spread across 2 ships in seperate parts of the universe, and yet still have the lead in every story.

And the death of Chrighton Black (or was it green?) was one of the most heart-wrenching scenes in the series. But we still got to see the hero again in the next episode (as a cartoon, no less).



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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 12:17 PM

SERYN


yes, that was the bit I was referring to with the inventiveness

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It was the fact that they'd got them together, so, perfect. Other Crichton still out there, not perfect, all going well, worm hole information accessed,he going home! brilliant. He dies, in nasty way. NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! And then she goes back to where the other Crichton is and its just a whole mess of crap that is tragic and intriguing and human and unpredictable and damn fine television.



I want Farscape back! *sob*

just excuse me, I'll be ok in a minute. It just that, even though they had a spare, everything was pitched perfectly to get you so invested and hopeful for their future, and then Bam! And I haven't felt that bad about the death of a character until the

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death of our Big Damn Pilot



And we don't have spare of him! *sniff*

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 1:36 PM

RELFEXIVE


...

Frell, it's good to be watching The Peacekeeper Wars again...

...

Even if it has been sliced down a mite for TV. Frellniks.



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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:09 PM

LIMINALOSITY


Hey guys

Terrifried, Farscape rocks.
The muppets never got in my way, it's actually refreshing to see a few creatures that don't look like humans in drag.
I agree that it's nothing like FF really, except that it's quality stuff. I can't stand fluff entertainment. Must. Use. Brain. I discovered a spider living on my television last week when I went to program the vcr, so that tells you how often I turn the thing on, but I just finished watching the last of Joss (Angel 5) with one of my best friends (at his house, silly), and now we're watching Farscape from the beginning. It was the only logical thing to do. My friend has never seen it, so I will have the joy of witnessing a conversion, and I love being there to watch regular people turn into maniacs.

BTW, OT, and too bad about it... Deadwood I gobbled as greedily as FF. I heard an interview on public radio with the creator, walked directly to the video store after the interview, watched the first ep, and cancelled all reasonably cancellable plans till I'd seen the whole first season. It's from one of the premium cable channels, so only a dozen or so eps per season. Season 2 is on now and getting rave reviews.

to all 'scape fans.



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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:45 PM

MAJORCLOD


I never watched Farscape when it was on, however I am borrowing the DVD's from a friend. Currently I'm into the first five or six episodes of Season 2, but it just isn't grabbing me. It really enjoyed the end of season 1 with the whole Talon plot, but other than that it just never clicks with me. Maybe it's all the cheesy Aussie guest stars, and the accents can get real annoying after a while (and I am an Aussie!)

I don't know why, I just can't seem to get into it. Generally if I have a show on DVD and it really grabs me, I will not be able to stop watching episodes. It has taken me almost two months to get through the first six episodes of Farscape S2. I think some of the surreal episodes really throw me out, and I would really like an overall purpose to each season to be present, like Buffy, Angel, Veronica Mars, etc...

Still, I will keep plodding on in hopes that it does grab me again!



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Thursday, March 9, 2006 11:04 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by MajorClod:
I never watched Farscape when it was on, however I am borrowing the DVD's from a friend. Currently I'm into the first five or six episodes of Season 2, but it just isn't grabbing me. It really enjoyed the end of season 1 with the whole Talon plot, but other than that it just never clicks with me. Maybe it's all the cheesy Aussie guest stars, and the accents can get real annoying after a while (and I am an Aussie!)

I don't know why, I just can't seem to get into it. Generally if I have a show on DVD and it really grabs me, I will not be able to stop watching episodes. It has taken me almost two months to get through the first six episodes of Farscape S2. I think some of the surreal episodes really throw me out, and I would really like an overall purpose to each season to be present, like Buffy, Angel, Veronica Mars, etc...

Still, I will keep plodding on in hopes that it does grab me again!





If it helps any, the big plot of Season 2 does really kick in around half-way through the season. Watching one of the main characters (not saying who for spoiler's sake) going totally insane gets pretty fun.

That, and the 2 three parters of the season (involving a royal wedding and bank heist, respectively) are some of my favorite story arcs in the series.

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 1:03 PM

RELFEXIVE


I never thought of either Rygel or Pilot as muppets, nor puppets, especially Pilot. He is as well realised a character as the rest of them, and remarkably emotive with those big golden eyes of his.



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Thursday, March 9, 2006 5:19 PM

RMMC


I love both shows, but Firefly is tops.

I got into Farscape in the second season and was vastly confused, but entertained so I stuck with it and eventually caught up when the DVDs started coming out.

I think a part of why I liked it was that I felt that Rockne O'Bannon went to the 'Joss Whedon School of Torturing Your Characters (and fanbase).' Nothing was ever easy. Anything anyone did had repercussions. Not always immediately, but they would happen.

Both shows also used humor and used it well, to help switch off from being too horribly tense all the time so you'd want to lit your wrists. (As mentioned above, the cartoon episode has got to be an absolute clasic.)

But both shows also owed a bit to the first show with a diverse group of people of (at many) times who were largely untrustworthy, being 'stuck' together due to circumstances: Blakes 7. This was the ultimate anti-Star Trek (the bad guys were the 'Federation.') All our 'heroes,' as on Firefly and Farscape, were criminals (escaped convicts in the cases of B7 and FS) but with our central focus hero being an ultimate "good" guy who is there due to being on the losing side of a disagreement with the government (Blake was a revolutionary who was caught and framed for a different crime to discredit his cause, Crichton hit a wormhole by accident and when he came out accidently caused the death of the Peacekeeper commander's brother and found his only refuge with the escaping criminals that the authorities were trying to recover, and Mal...well we all know his story, right?;-)

All three shows also had the central characters struggling against a totaltarian society: The Federation, the Peacekeepers and the Alliance.

But I also feel that each was better than the one preceeding it. Blake was great; a breath of fresh air from what was on TV and in the movies at the time. Farscape was better; it had a better balance with trauma and humor. Frankly, Blake went down hill after the third season...WAY down hill. But then, the Beeb had spent the past few seasons trying to get rid of it, so no surprise there. And Firefly...this is the pinnacle. Great balance in moods. Fantastic characterization and great plots. But then I expected no less from Joss having watched both Buffy and Angel from the get-go.

So is Farscape an acceptable fix? Yes and no. (Yeah, it's cop-out time )I miss both shows, but I miss having new Firefly episodes just a mite bit more.

Egads, but I'm being long winded today. Sorry.

RMMC
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Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:06 AM

RELFEXIVE


Just watched TPW again on DVD. It's disturbing just how much of it they cut, really. So much good stuff hacked out, damn them to hezmana.

It also reminded me how much I really love Farscape. And the behind the scenes thing just hammered it home. Gods, I miss it.

I think the return of Firefly/Serenity owes alot to the campaigns we did for saving Farscape... irrespective of who got to return on TV and who got to return in cinemas.

Just don't ask me right now which I think is the better series.



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Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:28 AM

AGIRLYMAN


Just caught my first episode of "Farscape", muppets aside, I was impressed.

P.S. That chick in the white hair was hot!

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:10 AM

RELFEXIVE


If you mean Chiana, oh my yes. Also, the first character ever to appear in the opening titles of a TV series in the middle of having sex.

Plus, Gigi Edgley is the MC at the Serenity Cubed con. Frelling drad, man!

But, I must add that there are those that say Claudia Black is not attractive. Having met her in person I can reveal that such people have not got an inkling of a clue. She's lovely, she really is.

Mind you, try and find an unattractive female on Farscape and you'll be hard pressed to do so.



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Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:01 AM

CYBERSNARK


Claudia Black looks very "severe," which is a departure from the current fad where "attractive" means buxom, curvaceous, and slightly vapid.

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:28 PM

RELFEXIVE


On the other hand, great smile and has a brain.



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Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:55 PM

GIXXER


Nobody in their right mind would find Claudia Black unattractive.

She had a real River thing going with the severity. Not generally sunny, most of the time, but when you did get a smile, it was well worth waiting for.

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 4:29 PM

ZOESBACKUP


Farscape was my first official fandom, well I say official because I honestly had no idea that STNG fans or Star Wars had such massive followings. It was one of my deep dark perverted secrets that I didn't advertise or discuss with anyone else until I found Farscape. The first few eps are a bit lame, even so, there is some first rate writing and acting. The actors, writers, and producers ALL loved the show and characters the same as Joss, the BDHs, and the rest loved Firefly. They even had their own version of the flanvention called ScaperCon. The cast/crew all regularly had chat sessions with the fans and would often just pop up in the chat room and hang with us. Ben Browder also wrote two of the scripts, I believe, "Green Eyed Monster" and dang can't remember the other one, but it was either the Alice in Wonderland episode or the Warner Bros cartoon episode. I thought the show was magnificent, in that it broke all the rules regarding how you could juxtapose different genres. They were NOT muppets, they were million dollar animatronic characters with phenomenal personality, emotion, and character. When you say muppets most people think Fozzie Bear or Kermit and there is simply no comparison. The CGI was fantastic, the sets were fantastic, and as others have mentioned the villains were superb. The season arcs were complex and always had a number of different offshoots that were either exhilarating or enraging. I never felt any sense of ambivalence towards any character, any backstory, or any situation. The stories are completely different but the high standards on the part of those involved in the show as well as the fans were equal to that of Firefly.

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:56 PM

GELASSENHEIT


Ben Browder....ah he could tide me over until the next firefly creation. yea. he will do nicely.



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Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by Gelassenheit: Ben Browder....ah
Oh, yes, all beings are lesser creations when compared to Chriton, and Ben is seriously hot. Of all characters ever... ok, I know these are not real people, I'm not deluded... this is a caricature of the perfect man. His 'the right thing starts at the beginning of the day' line to Sparky, yes, that's the heart of what I believe. He's brilliant, brave, articulate, romantic, loyal, generous, kind, he thinks on his feet, has integrity fire and spirit, and is a pop culture mixed metaphor god! I refuse! to be in love! with a written creature! And still, there it is. Chriton is my grail. Anybody know a three or four dimensional one of these who'd like to sail away with a silly lunatic like me? (Applications considered only when courteously offered.) I care far less about how he looks than how he looks at me.
Is it a full moon? I'm scaring myself. And for a Ben fix, there's SG1!

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Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:09 AM

NUCLEARDAY


Yeah, I frelling loved Farscape when it first came out. Ran into some problems after some time, as I missed out on a season and had alot of catching up to do. Still great, and I liked that they used muppets instead of CG. (I'm of the school that the best special effects are the ones where don't even know it's CG.)

Crichton just rocks, and I think he'd fit in pretty well with the crew of Serenity, too. (Well... I can see him in the 'verse. I don't see him and Mal getting along too well :)

Was a big fan of the Crichton/ Aeryn romance, too. Very believable, what with all the ups and downs they went through.

Can't say it's much of a Firefly fix, but still a great show on it's own merits.

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Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:37 AM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Zoesbackup:
Ben Browder also wrote two of the scripts, I believe, "Green Eyed Monster" and dang can't remember the other one, but it was either the Alice in Wonderland episode or the Warner Bros cartoon episode.



That would be 'John Quixote' that you're thinking of.

I mean, come on: Claudia Black with a 'Southern Belle' accent? Wowzers.



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Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:32 AM

ZOESBACKUP


Ah yes, of course. Dang I miss that show. I just wish I could afford the second mortgage that would be required to buy the frelling dvds!!!! grrrr still pisses me off the amount they are charging. Even for the Starburst edition! I know I'll just end up forking over the dough one of these days and then turning off the phone, locking the door, and having myself a Crichtony good time. Remember when they switched bodies and Chiana was in D'argo's body while Rygel was in John's and Chiana/D'argo was attempting to seduce John/Rygel? Good Times!! Fuck it....what's a couple of hundred bucks. who needs food or running water.

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Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:50 AM

6250THOMAS


What was great about both Farscape and Firefly, and this has also been mentioned in interviews with the casts and crews, is that both programs got out of that "sterile, clean" setting of the Star Trek universe where the actors delivered their lines precisely and just so, well, perfectly. Farscape and Firefly both gave us well-lived-in, grungy worlds that will probably turn out to be more realistic in a thousand years or so than the Star Trek universe. Except, of course, for the Alliance.

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Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:27 PM

RELFEXIVE


That is easily one of the best body-swap episodes that exists in TV science fiction. They dealt with the unwholesome things normal people would do in that situation in that way that only Farscape can

Plus, one thing you have to say about Farscape: more alien sex and vomit than you can shake a jinka pole at!


I wish my DVDs were easier to get to... I'd watch them all again in a frelling microt!


I'm listening to the Peacekeeper Wars soundtrack right now... just reached the track called 'We All Die'... such a sad moment.



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Sunday, March 12, 2006 11:46 PM

BROWNCOATER


I watched Farscape from day one, all the way through. I still watch it. And I like Browder and Black on Stargate.

However, and I'll get blasted for this, I think BSG stinks. To me it's just a soap opera in space, much more than any other scifi program. I don't agree at all with all the praise that's been heaped on it.

And none of them substitute Firefly.

I agree with the above comment about FS and FF being more realistic views of the future than the Star Treks. Babylon 5 was too.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 3:41 AM

KBACHELDER


Can the Farscape fans recommend some good websites and/or discussion forums related to the show?


Thank you,

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Monday, March 13, 2006 3:49 AM

JONUS


I love Farscape. Though frequently there are some very corny things and corny episodes. I think the story is great. Getting sucked into wormholes - where will you end up? Also the Peacekeeper Wars kicked ass.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 9:20 AM

CAPELLA


Hi,

I was a Farscape fan a long time before I ever watched Firefly and even though by now I think Firefly is the better show of the two, Farscape still is a very close runner up for me.

As was mentioned in some other posts, there are some parallels: the crew thrown in together by circumstance rather than choice, with a lot of conflict brewing between them, but growing very close together nevertheless. There are some emotionally very intense eps in Farscape which deal with this. The show has some good dry humor as well (even though the dialogs can not quite beat any of Joss's shows, I am afraid).

The setting is more fantasy than scifi, the wormhole theory allowing for a completely different world with all kinds of strange cultures and alien life forms. I loved the creatures the Henson people created for this and the idea of the Leviathans, the ships which are alive really appealled to me, too. (A pregnant spaceship ... that's priceless) There are really many good ideas in the series. Definitly worth watching (over and over and over again...).

And even though it might be possible to jump into the show somewhere in the middle, you really get the most of it if you start at the beginning of season one, because it lays the foundation for some crucial things that happen later.

Keep flying!

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Monday, March 13, 2006 9:51 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by kbachelder:
Can the Farscape fans recommend some good websites and/or discussion forums related to the show?




Havn't been there in a while myself, but www.watchfarscape.com used to have a pretty active forum.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 9:58 AM

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Originally posted by RelFexive:
Just watched TPW again on DVD. It's disturbing just how much of it they cut, really. So much good stuff hacked out, damn them to hezmana.




ok, forgive my ingorance, but what was cut out, didn't get a chance to see them on sci-fi when they first aired, (was on vacation at my brother's and his satellitewas down that week) have only seen the dvd's....or was the extra stuff not shown in the US? i was only sorta into farscape at that point, i'm now working my way through the seasons on netflix, up to....season 1, disc 9 (through the looking glass/ a bugs life)

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Monday, March 13, 2006 10:37 AM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by optimus1998:
ok, forgive my ingorance, but what was cut out, didn't get a chance to see them on sci-fi when they first aired, (was on vacation at my brother's and his satellitewas down that week) have only seen the dvd's....or was the extra stuff not shown in the US? i was only sorta into farscape at that point, i'm now working my way through the seasons on netflix, up to....season 1, disc 9 (through the looking glass/ a bugs life)



Almost everything with Harvey went, except for the crash test dummy scene... which would've made no sense without the simple explanation from the first (Albert) scene.

The explanation for Aeryn's quick pregnancy.

The signing of the treaty.

Lots of relatively minor character moments.


Basically, they brutalised it. It was two parts of two hours each originally, three hours total without adverts on the DVD. They showed it all in three hours... including adverts.

Bastards.



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Monday, March 13, 2006 10:38 AM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by kbachelder:
Can the Farscape fans recommend some good websites and/or discussion forums related to the show?



There ain't much going on on these sites these days, but...

http://www.farscapeworld.com/main.php

http://www.farscapeweb.com/farscape/main.asp

http://farscapenews.com/



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Monday, March 13, 2006 10:51 AM

KBACHELDER


Thanks to all who posted links to Farscape sites.


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Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:28 PM

DONTCALLMELAWRENCE


Any one know what "Harpooda" means?

A friend of mine asked me awhile back, and it has been bugging me for months.

It's an insult of sorts.

Used between John and Aeryn I believe.

in the context of "you're a frelling harpooda"

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