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THEY KILLED ***********!

POSTED BY: RHODRI
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 17:39
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Thursday, March 9, 2006 6:40 AM

RHODRI


Having been hooked by Firefly from the outset, I finally managed to watch Serenity the other night.

Bloody hell Joss! Yet again you do that sneaky "Tara" thing and kill off a character we love! Gorram!

Given the emotional trauma I've now suffered I demand that Joss makes amends by giving us another dose of the 'Verse.

P.S. Kill Keylee and I'll come a'gunnin' for you!

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 7:24 AM

GRIMJACK21502


Quote:

Originally posted by Rhodri:
P.S. Kill Keylee and I'll come a'gunnin' for you!



Amen!

We will hold...we hold till Mal gets back.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 7:25 AM

MAL4PREZ


Welcome Rhodri!

We share your pain...

Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 7:26 AM

PARKER6097


He really is a bastard for killing wash and book, especially wash. But he does it in such a genius way it's so hard to stay mad at him lol. The death of wash just completely makes you believe that everyone is going to die, that none of them are going to make it through this (well, jayne might lmao)

But yea, I love wash. And I still love Joss (bastard lol)

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 8:25 AM

DAVEC5


Quote:

Originally posted by parker6097:
He really is a bastard for killing wash and book, especially wash.... still love Joss (bastard lol)



whedon is a mad genius...likes to twist the plot from time to time...i'm thinking Wash will pop back up yet..i mean look at Mal..i know he died once already, and should have died numerous times from gunshots, sabre wounds...knifes....severe beatings....on an on...after all what's a little thing like a giant stake through the chest!..."just a graze, doc...i'll be fine..."

in the end though, if Wash and Book, or any other characters never make it back to the big, small screen or shiny little disc thingies....i still have to give the old man Joss a big Shiny thanks for giving us what he did...nothing wrong with being greedy except, you know, being greedy.... but you also have to be thankful for what you've got.



"...actually, I was fired...from a fry cook opportunity..."

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 4:48 PM

ANONYMOUS1


Quote:

Originally posted by davec5:
...likes to twist the plot from time to time...i'm thinking *********** will pop back up yet..i mean look at Mal..i know he died once already,



And remember River can see ghosts or at least hear them.

"they're everywhere, every city every house every room, they're all inside me,
I can hear them all and they're saying nothing!"

River
Serenity The Official Visual Companion page 128


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Thursday, March 9, 2006 4:53 PM

SAVEWASH

Now I am learning about scary.


Quote:

Originally posted by parker6097:
He really is a bastard for killing wash and book, especially wash. But he does it in such a genius way it's so hard to stay mad at him lol. The death of wash just completely makes you believe that everyone is going to die, that none of them are going to make it through this (well, jayne might lmao)

But yea, I love wash. And I still love Joss (bastard lol)



I dunno. The death of Wash just completely made me believe that I was going to die, right there in the theatre! My heart stopped. My lungs lost all their air. My brain exploded.

Joss, I need CPR: Complete Plot Rewrite! Please?



"We need to keep our heads so we can ... keep our heads."

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 5:06 PM

JAYNESBUNKWOMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SAVEWASH:
[I dunno. The death of Wash just completely made me believe that I was going to die, right there in the theatre! My heart stopped. My lungs lost all their air. My brain exploded.



Can't say my brain exploded but it certainly took my breath away and left me stunnned. Also triggered a thought pattern that went along the lines of" Noooooooooooooooo, not Wash! Can't kill Wash! He's married, to Zoe the beautiful warrior woman, wash has got GREAT humour...

But yeah, that's Joss - had totally forgot the Tara thing. And then there's the Doyle thing. Hey - I should have seen this coming, now that I think about it a little more.



I'll be in Jaynes bunk

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 5:31 PM

RMMC


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Originally posted by jaynesbunkwoman:

But yeah, that's Joss - had totally forgot the Tara thing. And then there's the Doyle thing. Hey - I should have seen this coming, now that I think about it a little more.



...And Jenny and Cordelia and Fred and Wes--um actually I was happy to see Wes go. Just never took a likin' to him.

Yeah, I felt I should have seen it coming, too. *grumblegrumblegrumble* Gorramit! I want them back and I want 'em back pronto!

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Friday, March 10, 2006 1:21 AM

RHODRI


Well I was aiming to not spoil the big surprise, but now the cat's out of the bag.

Thanks for the welcome folks, I'll be wearing my Hawaiian shirt in honour of Wash! Even the 'lil woman won't begrudge me that - she almost screamed when the deed was done.

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Friday, March 10, 2006 7:04 PM

ANONYMOUS1


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Originally posted by Rhodri:
Well I was aiming to not spoil the big surprise, but now the cat's out of the bag.



You could edit the subject of your top post and put (spoilers) in it.

Really, I think there are 6 billion people who haven't seen the movie yet.

I liked your "***********"

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:55 AM

ALGUS


I didn't mind that they killed Wash and Book, I never mind the killing of characters if it leads to character development for everyone else. But I was really disappointed with Book's screen time in the movie. Especially after watching the specials on the box set and Ron Glass talking about how he would love to get to be Book again - This was before the movie :(

---
Where's the KABOOM?! There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom! *sigh* Delays...delays...

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:08 AM

PSYCHICRIVER


Wait...who did he kill!!?

WHO DID HE KILL??!?!?!?!?!

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"
"I swallowed a bug."

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:41 AM

SIMONB


Quote:

Originally posted by parker6097:
He really is a bastard for killing wash and book, especially wash. But he does it in such a genius way it's so hard to stay mad at him lol. The death of wash just completely makes you believe that everyone is going to die, that none of them are going to make it through this (well, jayne might lmao)

But yea, I love wash. And I still love Joss (bastard lol)



Yeah, walked out of the cinema having both really loved and hated the film (for the Wash and Book deaths!) and boy, did it make me fear for the rest of the cast? 'specially when Simon got shot and was saying goodbye to River!!!

I agree that the film needed the deaths to make the peril seem real, and it does (IMHO) make the film better for it. But I really lament the loss of those great characters (Wash was such a cool, fun character) and Book...there was still so much more to know!

Also, it's kinda sad that after all the cast went through after the cancellation - to be amazingly resurrected only to have two of them killed off seemed really cruel.

But I suppose we should have expected it from Joss. He's a genious and a great writer, but he's not afraid to kill off the ones we love, and it took a while before I could forgive that with Serenity - but I can't hold a grudge against Joss, and I love Serenity. But yeah - he'd better not kill of Kaylee! (there's more than one Simon with his eye on her....)


- Shiny. let's be bad guys.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 5:03 AM

RHODRI


Hey, maybe Zoe could be pregnant? She said in "Heart of Gold" that she wanted a child by Wash!

We can but hope that a Wash Jr will appear 9 months later.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 5:41 AM

ISAACSHEPHERD


I have to admit when I saw Wash die in the theatre I was shocked. I had never seen the series but normally I can predict the ending for movies very well. They follow a set of "rules" most of the time and Wash's death ignored that. He was also killed very abruptly too. The more I watch Firefly and the more emotional I seem to get about Wash's death. About Book being killed, when I first saw the movie I didn't care too much. I had no clue he was ever even on the ship. But of course after watching the series he is my 2nd favorite character and now his scene gets me every time as well. Then there's the fact that I may never know Books story.
IS

The Bible's a bit fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:42 AM

RHODRI


Book being killed off is similar to Joss dustin' Giles in a new Buffy venture. He added a subtle conscience to the crew (i hate to use the term morality).
It's a shame that we won't get to know Book's back-story.
We all know he wasn't always a shepherd, so can this be another movie thread: Serenity II- Book's Legacy?

C'mon Joss, isn't that an enticing idea?

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:32 PM

BROWNCOATCRUSADER


U guys gotta unserstand. These people are in the smuggleing business. They're all lucky they made it this far. It'd also be kind of wierd if everyone on board was a couple at once [Wash/Zoe,Simon/Kaylee, Mal/Inara (we all know it's gonna happen)]. Also, at the end u see River flying the boat. Helllooo? pshicic? can see anything comin before it happens? But they'lle probably play GOD and bring Wash back to life.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:39 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain


It's very sad that hey are gon and all but I'm sure I've heard that the entilre crew (Wash and Book included) will be back if there's a sequel. I'm guessing flashbacks.
Also, just 'cause Book is dead don't mean you can't find out his past.
Either way, they will both be missed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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