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Who Has betrayed You and How?

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Friday, March 17, 2006 12:30 AM

RIVER6213


Troll Country here I come!!!

Who has betrayed you?

In the course of my jaded existence I have been betrayed by 4 people…the last one was, well, incredible, and the price of that insane encounter was $78,000 plus my soul, and a score of friends, who just happen to be in the way.

Trust is an interesting thing. Looks great on paper, but in practice it’s a complete waste of time because in the end you can’t trust anyone, or is it just me? Am I the only one in human history that has ever been betrayed, or are there anyone willing to step up to the plate and tell their story of woe. To tell their story of betrayal that they did to someone, or was betrayed themselves.

Like I said, I know this belongs in Troll Country, but I shall allow the pieces to fall where they may.

I say we blow the main charges and let God sort ‘em out

River





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Friday, March 17, 2006 3:33 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I do not think you are alone in having experienced betrayal of one sort or another RiveR6123. I would dare say that everyone has to some extent, some moreso than others obviously.

I will not go into details about my own experiences as I tend to keep such things to myself, but suffice it to say that I have had an experience similar to your own.

Trust is a very special thing between people. It should never be taken lightly & should not be taken advantage of. There is a special hell for those that betray the trust of another.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 3:38 AM

CRACKERS


Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Troll Country here I come!!!

Who has betrayed you?


Trust is an interesting thing. Looks great on paper, but in practice it’s a complete waste of time because in the end you can’t trust anyone, or is it just me? Am I the only one in human history that has ever been betrayed, or are there anyone willing to step up to the plate and tell their story of woe. To tell their story of betrayal that they did to someone, or was betrayed themselves.






Is steppin up to the plate.

You want a tale of woe - How about walkin into your home and finding your best man humpin your fiance - does that qualify me?

However, hanging on to that sort of pain only causes self destruction - something I know all to intimately. Trust is not something to throw around lightly but neither is it something to keep locked up and never given away. If you live your life all locked up then you are the only one who it will effect and that is in the negative.

Today I have a whole new circle of very dear and trusted friends - it took me some time to find them and friendships tested, but I know they are worthy of my trust and me of theirs.

Your pain is only fleeting in this moment in time but you are here for the whole journey. I hope you will find rewarding relationships worthy of your trust and you of theirs.


Being CRACKERS provides sanity in an insane world!

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Friday, March 17, 2006 3:49 AM

JONUS


If you don't trust anyone you won't be betrayed.

I'm a Jedi.
I'm a Ringer.
I'm a BROWNCOAT.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 7:59 AM

RIVER6213


Nothing like a good back-stabbing to start your day off right.

River




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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:11 AM

ISAACSHEPHERD


I think I'll put in my two cents by saying that trust is necessary in life. If you don't trust anyone then how can you have any friends or family? Of course it'll be betrayed now and again but that's the risk of it all. I'd rather trust have the friends and family I do now, even though on occasion they may or someone along the line will. If Mal really didn't trust anyone he would have NO crew, then we'd have no Firefly.
IS

The Bible's a bit fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:30 AM

SLAYER730


My betrayl isn't spectacular, it's just a fresh wound. I got fired on Wednesday because "I wasn't a good fit for the team" (i.e. I wouldn't lie to cover up my boss's fraudulent business practices).

I found out later that day that another reason I got fired was because my co-worker in my classroom (daycare) ran to the boss and told her a handful of lies about how I never did any work. She had been my co-worker and friend (I thought) for 4 years and we'd never had a problem, so it was a bit of a shock.

But the kicker is - I already have a new and higher-paying job, so she and my old boss can pretty much kiss my... well, you know the rest.

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:38 AM

VENA


Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
IThere is a special hell for those that betray the trust of another.



Yep. Got that right. Called the 9th level of hell in Dante’s Inferno where they are frozen in place as the devil devours them or some such fun.

So, I feel it is safe to say betrayal is a persistent and universal thing.

That’s why I never let ‘em in in the first place. My own personal version of “That’s why I never kiss ‘em on the mouth.”


Because I am an American. And what does an American want? Democracy?
Capitalism.
I want to sell out and settle down. For one day only, it's a blue light special on Aisle Three. My wormhole technology... and a free set of steak knives... for all the tea in China. And anything you can imagine to pay me... welcome to my cold war.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:43 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I say we blow the main charges and let God sort ‘em out



Where did I hear this before? Did you quote a movie or TV show? It sounds familiar.....

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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:43 AM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by slayer730:
My betrayl isn't spectacular, it's just a fresh wound. I got fired on Wednesday because "I wasn't a good fit for the team" (i.e. I wouldn't lie to cover up my boss's fraudulent business practices).

I found out later that day that another reason I got fired was because my co-worker in my classroom (daycare) ran to the boss and told her a handful of lies about how I never did any work. She had been my co-worker and friend (I thought) for 4 years and we'd never had a problem, so it was a bit of a shock.

But the kicker is - I already have a new and higher-paying job, so she and my old boss can pretty much kiss my... well, you know the rest.

***Never judge a book by its movie***




Now that's what I'm talking about! Yes, that is betrayal! You all better watch your back's because your friends, and associates are waiting to mess you up! Myself, I ejected all my friends, and my family, I disowned them a while back, so now It's impossible for me to be betrayed by anyone, and so what if I'm alone?? Better alone with a measure of a peace of mind than being a battlestar, sitting at Picon Base when the Cylon's show up.

River

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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:58 AM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
I think I'll put in my two cents by saying that trust is necessary in life. If you don't trust anyone then how can you have any friends or family? Of course it'll be betrayed now and again but that's the risk of it all. I'd rather trust have the friends and family I do now, even though on occasion they may or someone along the line will. If Mal really didn't trust anyone he would have NO crew, then we'd have no Firefly.
IS

The Bible's a bit fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.



Then you sir are a more of a brave and adventurous soul than I! I rather be alone without the benefit of friends and family than be betrayed. I decided after the last betrayal that left me floating about in deep space without the benefit of a toothbrush, that I shall never again allow my defenses to drop for anyone for any reason. God himself could ask me to trust him and I will tell him to go fish up a tree. God and Human's cannot be trusted in any way shape or form, and that is the plain truth as I see it.

River

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Friday, March 17, 2006 9:36 AM

COPILOT


I trust everyone
I trust everyone to be human
So basically if you stand in the way of someone's goals or pleasure you get bulldozed.
Yep my greatest betrayal was none other than dear old daddy.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 9:46 AM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by copilot:
I trust everyone
I trust everyone to be human
So basically if you stand in the way of someone's goals or pleasure you get bulldozed.
Yep my greatest betrayal was none other than dear old daddy.



How did you betray dear, old, daddy?
What evil did you do?

River



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Friday, March 17, 2006 9:50 AM

ITSBROKEN


Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Troll Country here I come!!!

Who has betrayed you?

In the course of my jaded existence I have been betrayed by 4 people…the last one was, well, incredible, and the price of that insane encounter was $78,000 plus my soul, and a score of friends, who just happen to be in the way.

Trust is an interesting thing. Looks great on paper, but in practice it’s a complete waste of time because in the end you can’t trust anyone, or is it just me? Am I the only one in human history that has ever been betrayed, or are there anyone willing to step up to the plate and tell their story of woe. To tell their story of betrayal that they did to someone, or was betrayed themselves.

Like I said, I know this belongs in Troll Country, but I shall allow the pieces to fall where they may.

I say we blow the main charges and let God sort ‘em out

River



What was your tale of woe? You gave us a summary but you're asking people to post theirs without posting yours first. My father decided that drugs and gambling were more important than his family. Now im 19 trying to help my mom and sister. I work, but i try to take some classes too cause im gonna finish college one day, just not as early as i'd thought. We have no home, just recently rented an apartment, no realestate though, nothing to say is mine. One car, two bedroom apartment in the lower end of our neighborhood. So yeah, in a way I was betrayed since I was little. Everytime my dad decided to do meth or gamble our savings, he betrayed us. But i trust my mom and my sister, and i have some family that i would trust because we grew up together. Some family i wouldnt trust. You just have to analyze and think who you can trust and who you cant, not everyone is out to betray you.

-ME

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*Firefly is my escape, it doesnt work to tell people about firefly because i get too excited and scare them away, i have to set a trap!
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Friday, March 17, 2006 10:03 AM

COPILOT


Hiya River 6213 no daddy did the betraying. Ditched me off on Grandma at 13 because I was too much trouble. Basically I started fighting back against my verbaly and mentaly abusive stepmother and was ruining his chances of becomeing a preacher at his own church again. It sucked but I've gotten over it, at least on good days.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 11:48 AM

AGIRLYMAN


My mommy never "loved" me.

Waaaah!

P.S. Can't really complain, she made me the @$$hole I am today.

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

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Friday, March 17, 2006 7:48 PM

AERIN


Man, my complaints are starting to look pretty trivial.

The betrayal which still smarts and comes first to mind was by my professor/graduate advisor. One of the guys in the lab stole my speaking position at a scientific conference and referred to me using The C Word in his lab notebook after I caught him stealing chemicals from me. My advisor let him get away with everything until I went to several people in the administration. Graduate school only sucks because there are so many a$$holes here.

Why can't I just use violence to solve my problems?

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Jayne: I once hit a guy in the neck from 500 yards with a bent scope. Don't that count upstairs?
Book: Oh, it'll be taken into consideration.
Jayne: You made that sound kind of ominous.

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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:01 PM

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Friday, March 17, 2006 8:20 PM

MINIME


Am I in the wrong thread to as River: How are you doing?

Minime

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 4:35 AM

ISAACSHEPHERD


Quote:

Originally posted by slayer730:
My betrayl isn't spectacular, it's just a fresh wound. I got fired on Wednesday because "I wasn't a good fit for the team" (i.e. I wouldn't lie to cover up my boss's fraudulent business practices).

I found out later that day that another reason I got fired was because my co-worker in my classroom (daycare) ran to the boss and told her a handful of lies about how I never did any work.





I can relate to that situation in a way. I used to be an assistant manager at a retail grocery store and the store manager was pretty much useless.

Pretty much what happened was he didn't do any work and screwed my schedule over to set me up. Then I told HR and the district manager but they didn't really do anything. The employees that were under me knew what was happeneing but there was nothing they could do. I told him to knock if off or I was leaving. So after he played stupid I wrote up my 2 weeks right then and there.

Then from other contacts in the company I heard some nasty rumors flying around, some not appropriate for on here, in which I have no idea where they came from. Oh well, I lines up a job 2 weeks later in which I'm happy with and still working at. The place I worked at fell apart since I left, considering my boss fired a lot of people after I left. Glad I got out while I could, then I also know he's going to the special hell.
IS

The Bible's a bit fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 9:55 AM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by Aerin:
Man, my complaints are starting to look pretty trivial.

The betrayal which still smarts and comes first to mind was by my professor/graduate advisor. One of the guys in the lab stole my speaking position at a scientific conference and referred to me using The C Word in his lab notebook after I caught him stealing chemicals from me. My advisor let him get away with everything until I went to several people in the administration. Graduate school only sucks because there are so many a$$holes here.

Why can't I just use violence to solve my problems?

==================================================
Jayne: I once hit a guy in the neck from 500 yards with a bent scope. Don't that count upstairs?
Book: Oh, it'll be taken into consideration.
Jayne: You made that sound kind of ominous.



The scientific community is well stockpiled with dismissive arrogant jerks. I think that the lab environment attracts these sorts of people, which is why I got out of it years ago. People will steal your research, while they are smiling in your face, and people there also will stab you in the back without regret just as long as they can look good doing it.

Being betrayed in the scientific community is a given.

River



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Saturday, March 18, 2006 10:00 AM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by minime:
Am I in the wrong thread to as River: How are you doing?

Minime



How am I doing? I'm a ghosts thats how I'm doing, but thank you for asking. This thread is basically for people who has experienced Annikin's Betrayal in one form or another.

River


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