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The 'How Come It Never Goes Smooth?' Thread

POSTED BY: ZISKER
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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:23 AM

ZISKER


Ever been in one of those situation where you feel like you're channeling Mal's luck?

I'm in Army ROTC and I'm getting my commission next month. I got good grades, did really well in the progam (ranked 2nd in my school, top 15% in the country, max PT) and should've gotten the job/post I wanted. What happened? The cadre screw up my paper work so I end up with my 5th choice. Ok. Bite lip. Maybe my post will work out. Just got it today. 4th choice. So I busted my ass for four years to spend the next four years in a job I don't want in a location I don't want. FTA!

So, anyone else recently been shaking their heads and saying "Never goes smooth. How come it never goes smooth?" Drinks are on me tonight . . .

One day.
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One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:25 AM

HERA


I'm sorry, Zisker. My brother was in the Air Force for 24 years. I know your pain.

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:44 AM

GROOVYAL


well there are sometimes these days...

one of them happened to be somewhere around the start of januray ... it started with me breaking up with my girlfriend and ended with me breaking up with my best friend, on account of my allready-ex-girlfried, a week later.....
yep!... that went well!!!

----------------------------
Well! If it aint somethin'!

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:16 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN


yeah I've had some not so smooth days myself

One Day.
One Mission
One Army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, We Aim To Misbehave.
www.SerenityJune23rd.com

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:05 PM

FLORALBUNNY


Zisker, you're in the service of your country. You expected tea and dumplings? Time to start tuning your cynicism.

According to the ex-military in my family, the acronyms FUBAR and SNAFU originated in the services.

Maybe it'll work out well for you in some unexpected way, leaving you with a story to tell the young'uns some years hence.

bun
-- bastards singed my turtle --
----- why's the rum gone? -----

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:11 PM

ZISKER


FloralBunny, you really do not want to go this road with me. Because there is a huge difference between eating the typical shit the service feeds you and what happened to me.

One day.
One plan.
One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
http://www.serenityday.org/

Little or no free time, but want to help?
Help Spread the Signal: http://www.geocities.com/browncoatsignalcorps

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:52 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Zisker

My father was a Navy Officer for 28 years, My husband for 20 years and I have worked as a civilian for the DOD myself 5 years, what you described IS typical military. Get used to it. It sucks, but there it it.

Consider yourself lucky of you manage to stay out of the Gulf.

One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave!



Nathan doesn't know it yet, but I am his one true love! Is that weird?
(he will believe, he will believe)

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:00 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


I constently shake my head and ask myself, "how come things never go smooth".

You can’t stop the Signal.
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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:00 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


I constently shake my head and ask myself, "how come things never go smooth".

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:00 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


I constently shake my head and ask myself, "how come things never go smooth".

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:00 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


I constently shake my head and ask myself, "how come things never go smooth".

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:00 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


I constently shake my head and ask myself, "how come things never go smooth".

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:00 PM

VINTERDRAKEN


I constently shake my head and ask myself, "how come things never go smooth".

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:40 PM

MSCKAREN


Quote:

Originally posted by Zisker:

So, anyone else recently been shaking their heads and saying "Never goes smooth. How come it never goes smooth?" Drinks are on me tonight . . .



I'd like a Mango Margarita, please! ;-)

My not smooth event of the day: Today my garage door went crazy and I almost couldn't get the car out of the garage. Back home tonight (too late to call repair man), the door is stuck open.

Re: your situation. I was in AF 26 years. I got my hard earned choices about 50% of the time. The irony is that when I got the things I REALLY wanted, it sucked. The things I didn't expect and didn't want always seemed to turn out better. I hope that's what happens for you... well the getting better than you expect part, not the 50% part...

Anyway, now I'm retired and getting a monthly check that allows me to live simply and free of work. So basically I got to really retire before I hit 45.

Here's my advice on how to make some lemonade out of these lemons: Take advantage of every benefit you can, especially education, medical/dental, savings program and travel! Do a GREAT job whereever you go, in spite of bad bosses, location and/or policy. The good stuff will come your way.

Congratulations on the commission - it IS something to be very proud of!

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:43 PM

THEDAVE


After graduation from basic training in the Air Force my first station after tech school was Kunsan AB in South Korea. Turned out to be a great vacation. Just be glad you got something that was on your list.

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:28 PM

LIKEANEWDIME


I won't say "Welcome to the military, kid!" “Just do the best job you can!” “Bloom where you’re planted” and all that other BS. It looks like you've heard it a couple of times already.

I feel your pain. ROTC is a weird animal. ROTC's job is to train officers for the military. An important responsibility. Some officers are assigned to ROTC detachments and treat it as the important job it is. Others get assigned to a ROTC det, and seem to think that it’s some sort of gorram vacation. Paperwork gets screwed up, training gets shortchanged, who cares, its just these dumb cadets' careers were screwing over, right?

Then, you go on active duty. When I was in ROTC, I pictured the active duty ranks of being filled with able-bodied, competent, willing, motivated, ambitious, let's-get-the-job-done types of people.

What I found was different. Bosses that couldn’t seem to lead their way out of a paper bag. Senior NCO's that were in such a careerist mindset that they would sell their mother into slavery for an additional pat on the head. Whole offices of folks who were ready, willing, and able to do the mission, as long as the mission happened between 0830 and 1530, and not on their lunch break, break time, or while they were conducting their unit training between 0900 and 1500.

Anyway, not sure where I’m going with this. Just that there are others out there that feel your pain.

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:20 PM

THEPISTONENGINE


Sounds to me like you guys chose the wrong services... Army and it's brother the Air Force.

Navy and Marine Corps is where it's at... you get boned just as hard, but at least you're hardcore at the same time.

United States Naval Academy Class of '08
(I hate this *stupid* place)

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Carry the Nuttin'

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:30 PM

FORDAITH


Quote:

Originally posted by ThePistonEngine:
Sounds to me like you guys chose the wrong services... Army and it's brother the Air Force.

Navy and Marine Corps is where it's at... you get boned just as hard, but at least you're hardcore at the same time.

United States Naval Academy Class of '08
(I hate this *stupid* place)

_____________
Carry the Nuttin'




GO NAVY!!!

Nothing like getting told you might be going to the ARMPIT fo the planet...Djibouti 4TL

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:34 PM

ZISKER


NEVER, SQUID!

Actually, my family was all enlisted Navy and they told me I was not to enlist in the Navy if I valued my kneecaps (they reminded me of that when I started thinking of enlisting when the branch results came back) . . .of course, they were "offended" that I would "degrade" myself by serving in the Army.

Truth be told, I just don't have the math mind for the Navy. And the Marines - well, it's bad enough being a female in the Army. From what I've heard, it's even worse in the Marines.

One day.
One plan.
One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
http://www.serenityday.org/

Little or no free time, but want to help?
Help Spread the Signal: http://www.geocities.com/browncoatsignalcorps

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:34 PM

DOJO


yea officer's have much less input on what job they have and where they get sent. it's not like the enlisted guys where you can choose your job and duty station or reenlist for something i particular. if it's any consolation i've heard tons of stories just like yours where guys going through rotc, many of them prior service that were very accomplished at their prior mos, getting something totally different. also more is expected of officers. you'll find out there's a lot of 24 hr duties in the army where you have to stay up for 24 hrs straight. usually enlisted guys will get the next day off as comp time but the officer's dont. though on the flip side officer's dont have to deal with a lot of the dumb manual labor stuff joes do. this doesnt apply anymore because i gather you're a female, but i know a lot of cases where male officers who wanted combat mos's but got stuck with an admin type job would be given a chance to do a temporary tour in a combat job (ie finance officer acting as an infantry platoon leader) and at the end if the commander liked them they would be given the option to change their mos. i've only dealt with the infantry community and dont know much about the rest of the army does things but maybe there's something comparable out there

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:47 PM

DOJO


Quote:

Originally posted by ThePistonEngine:
Sounds to me like you guys chose the wrong services... Army and it's brother the Air Force.

Navy and Marine Corps is where it's at... you get boned just as hard, but at least you're hardcore at the same time.

United States Naval Academy Class of '08
(I hate this *stupid* place)



haha...i beg to differ. both the navy and marine corps are fine organizations and the marines are great at PR but they dont have the market cornered when it comes to being hard. i've found it comes down to the unit rather than the service. there are good units and bad units in both the army and the corps. with that said, i'd put the 82nd airborne up against any unit the corps has any day
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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:40 PM

ELLIS


Zisker: felt that way all my life. I won't even get into what's going on now; just suffice it to say that if I was suddenly hit with a bolt of lightning, I...

1) wouldn't be all that (dare I say shocked??) surprised

and

2) wouldn't complain much.

"Ten percent of nothin' is...let me do the math here: nothin' and then nothin', carry the nothin'..." - Jayne

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Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:00 AM

THUNDER


That's the military for you. You should have done your list in reverse, it would have worked out in your favor.

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