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Male and Female Imponderables--Yet Again

POSTED BY: TRISTAN
UPDATED: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:08
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Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:53 AM

TRISTAN


PR, no need to shut up. Thank you for that. It's always nice to hear things like that.
At 24, I was capable of nights like that, too. Every now and then presently, I am still capable of something like that...and wow, it's good! But then again, making love is usually always good.

Emma, a male perspective on lube: Of all the women I have dated, there was only one that produced little of her own...we always had to have help. But, we still managed to keep things spontaneous (little bottles of lube sprinkled all over the house...whee!)

PR (again) see, a woman should never have to insist on foreplay; it's a right. Except, of course, if it's one of those totally lustful situations where you have to have each other right then and there...then I can see no foreplay involved. Just my opinion, I may be wrong.
...toes. Well, I never had a woman orgasm by toe sucking, but close. Like I have said before, I enjoy the female body, and discovering all the buttons. I always enjoy finding things the woman did not even know about herself. It did happen ocassionally.
PR...5, eh? And then you get warmed up? Mercy me. 45 minutes of foreplay? That's a good starting point . You and I may have gotten along famously in an alternate universe.

msg, what? What'd I do?


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Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:57 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
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but once I have five or so, I'm usually ready to go.



Okay, now I hate you!


Really, that's just.....



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Originally posted by mal4prez:
All I can say is da-amn!! 10??? I've had 3 in a night, but with long recuperation breaks. Not multiples!

If there's a way to learn, sign me up for the class!




So, maybe I should write that book then?

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:57 AM

MAL4PREZ


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Originally posted by msg:
Mal4Prez according to Cosmo ( not perfect but hey it's data)



Whoa, Cosmo sex facts. Now we're in the thick of it! Don't they have those crazy questionaires too?

Yeah, I think I'm just not the multiple type. *sigh*

Edit: but write the book. I'd read it, can't hurt to try!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:58 AM

MSG


I must say it's difficult to form responses without seriously crossing the TMI line, but I think my top number of finish line crosses in one "race" would be 15-20 never actually paused and tried to like count one...two...three Also don't knwo as I could find my KY(lube) as I use it so infrequently, but it's always nice to have just in case...and I must say I personally am a big fan of the wham bam thank you ma'am 10 min hurry up and cross the finish line or we're going to be late;)

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:09 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


45 minutes is the minimum. Absolute minimum. One point where I think there was 10 minutes or so; one of those "I have to have you NOW!" things. I hurt like hell afterwards.
I'm sure we would have gotten along, er, more famously in an alternate universe. Do you have a brother or a clone or a friend or anything? I'm always looking for a man who can really appreciate how I am!
I remember getting the comment once that I was "every man's ideal" because of my lack of need for direct stimulation. It's weird, though, because once they've gotten used to it it's not a deal to them anymore. Ok, I'm not being fair, but eventually it has always stopped being a deal to them. So, what? I'm an ideal until you're actually with me? I'm an ideal until you realize there's still some work involved?
OK, sorry, self-pity moment.
15-20! Yay, I'm not the only one!
Although I have no idea what my top number is. No idea at all. I lose all sembalance of an idea after about 15. I can say "Oh, about so-and-so many" to a certain point, after that it's like "Um... a lot?"
Well, I'll at least write a short blurb about how I see the nervous system and the like. Post it here sometime, maybe.
I have to git for the moment; I have things to do! (Go me! Actual stuff to do!)

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:09 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
I must say it's difficult to form responses without seriously crossing the TMI line, but I think my top number of finish line crosses in one "race" would be 15-20 never actually paused and tried to like count one...two...three Also don't knwo as I could find my KY(lube) as I use it so infrequently, but it's always nice to have just in case...and I must say I personally am a big fan of the wham bam thank you ma'am 10 min hurry up and cross the finish line or we're going to be late;)



15-20??? My lord, how is that possible?

I think I'm just more like a man in many ways. I never ask directions, and there aren't many finish lines in me. I have never needed any KY help though, not a problem there.

I agree about the fast and furious. If the mentally aroused part is there first, just get going and go! (Referring back to the up against the wall part here.)

There's no such thing as TMI in this thread anymore.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:21 AM

TRISTAN


PR, no clone, but I do have a brother...who is also happily married. Oh, well...what could have been!
Yeah, it appears this thread has gone way beyond TMI...which is just as well. Can't really discuss things like this without details, can we?

15-20...good number. I have had that happen to me once. It was a 12-hour session (I was 25 or 26) with a long-time friend as a one-night stand kinda thing. Yes, there were smoke breaks, etc thrown in there. She had something like 17 or so big orgasms...the whole twitchy for a minute after type. I, myself, had eight during that time. She did not get sore, but we did have to resort to the lube after awhile.
Also, in all my years, I have managed to hit the G-spot on only one woman...my first lover, as a matter of fact. It was awesome, and I use that word as it is supposed to be used. I have never seen a more powerful orgasm; she ended up halfway up the wall (standing on the bed, actually), lost muscle control, and was in a state of bliss for close to ten minutes...she later said that is how long her body orgasmed. I was, needless to say, pretty proud of that accomplishment. Unfortunately, I have not been able to re-create quite that reaction since then. Any females have this reaction before?

(I really need to get my wife into this thread...I am sure she would have a lot to add.)


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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:23 AM

MSG


yeah I've noticed we seem to have passed well beyond the boundaries of TMI, but oh well as long as we're having fun.
Yes Tristan I've even hit the blackout orgasm with a 10-15 min bliss period to follow
Since we've left propriety behind I've always wondered if there aer other women out there who watch/ enjoy porn. If this is TMI please ignore or erase from your memory:)

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:28 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Nothing like an imponderables thread to liven up the day!

Some porn is okay, could do without the cheesy kind (which, sadly, is most of it). What I really prefer is erotic fiction. Your imagination is usually better than a picture anyway.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:29 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
yeah I've noticed we seem to have passed well beyond the boundaries of TMI, but oh well as long as we're having fun.
Yes Tristan I've even hit the blackout orgasm with a 10-15 min bliss period to follow
Since we've left propriety behind I've always wondered if there aer other women out there who watch/ enjoy porn. If this is TMI please ignore or erase from your memory:)

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!



I've had the shakey O, that's awful nice.

TMI, sure. But porn can be fun. I hate staged porn, or perfect plastic bodies, or detailed closeups. Yick. But seeing people enjoy themselves? Nothing wrong with that.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:45 AM

TRISTAN


Porn...well, I also hate the staged porn with plastic-looking participants. Give me the real stuff over that anyday. It may be a strange thing for a male to say, but I am also a big fan of the "artistic" type of nude photography...there are times when I like something left to the imagination. Then again, there are the ocassional times when I really enjoy the hardcore stuff, too...guess it depends on the mood. Kinda like the long, slow love-making versus the "right here, right now!" kind.


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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:46 AM

LYSANDER


Wow. It's interesting to see how these threads start to branch out.

Oral sex- like to get it, love to give it. This is always a must. I would have to say that this takes up most of our intimate time. If done right, it can last quite long without causing pain or irritation.

Circumcision(SP)- I am. Don't no anyone who isn't. I can't imagine the extra 75% of sensation. How can they last?

Lubrication- My wife has never had to use anything extra. She seems to do just fine.

Multiples- I think it is quite easy from the male perspective to give a girl multiples.

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me?
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:52 AM

MSG


Tristan- are you sure that you don't have a twin? Because I am prety sure my husband is your twin. I swear you sound just like him most of the time:) Mind you after reading your profile, you could also sort of be mine...at least educationally ( se my profile if you're confused) I agree about the plastic porn though...there is some good amature stuff. As for artistic nudes you should see the lovely pics my husband has framed in his office.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:53 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by lysander:
Multiples- I think it is quite easy from the male perspective to give a girl multiples.



Really? Is this based on personal experience? Because Cosmo says, what was it... 1/3 of the woman out there are multiple-ers, something ain't adding up here. (Oh no - back to the math!)

So, is it the partner's technique or the woman's ability? Anyone?

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:05 AM

TRISTAN


msg, well, hello, twin! Yes, it does seem we are quite similar education-wise. Shiny! I would love to discuss the Crusades with you!

Lysander, welcome back! I know you have been back a day or two, but I missed the chance to say hello then...so, "hello!"

Mal4Prez...I think it is a combination of both. I have had lovers that could multiple one day and have nothing the next. It's important that both parties are whole-heartedly into what they are doing...going quickly through the motions won't cut it, IMO.


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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:10 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


OK now I am just depressed.

I can have multiples and I mean like maybe 5 - IF I do it myself.

In the last few years that is the only way I have had them. I am not even sure that I would have one now with a person!

I think I will go kill myself now.


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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:15 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan:
Mal4Prez...I think it is a combination of both. I have had lovers that could multiple one day and have nothing the next. It's important that both parties are whole-heartedly into what they are doing...going quickly through the motions won't cut it, IMO.



*sigh* Just another reason I need an SO to experiment with.

FMF - I'll go with you, we'll leave a note: Not enough multiple organisms, life isn't worth it anymore...

But at least you can by yourself! I have never!!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:18 AM

TRISTAN


No need to kill yourself! The situations I see here are not (for the most part) the norm! I have had a number of lovers (don't really want to give the number), and in almost every coupling, we have both left with one, maybe two, orgasms each. There have been times (more than I really like to count) that one of us has left the coupling not having any. My ex-wife had never had an orgasm in her life. Ever. and she was 29 when I married her. I tried. I tried everything, and no dice. She still enjoyed sex, just never really had an ending for her.
So, not everyone can have multiples. And hey, 5 by yourself is not bad...I can only usually do 1...then I have to find something else to do for awhile .



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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:28 AM

LYSANDER


I would agree with Tristan and say that it is a combination of both things. But, I can say that I've had lots of experience in helping my partner reach multiples whether she was in the mood or not. Granted, it does not happen all the time, but when it does, it's really good.

On the topic of porn, I think the real unscripted stuff is good. Something about the whole experience being real makes it more interesting. I also think there can be a time and place for the hardcore stuff too.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:34 AM

ZEEK


15!? how are you people doing that? I must need to take my vitamins or something.

Oops gotta run to lunch. More on that thought later I guess.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:40 AM

MAL4PREZ


Are we getting a new thread? This is getting long...

Off to lunch myself, see ya later!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:41 AM

MSG


Oh Tristan I would so love to spend a long chat on all things medieval, but I think we might bore the others.
I really don't think multiples are all partner or technique related, but having a partner who gets you going and lets you work up to it really helps and It's not like I multiple every time. Depends on the situation and how I'm feeling. I think it's like being blue eyed or something. It's probably genetic(BUT there is NO way I would ever ask my mom)
FMF- If you can do it solo you can do it with the right guy. The right guy is like the best solo only better so hold off on the cyanide pills darlin and go grab yourself a nice 20 something stud!
Sorry it took me so long to respond I just spent 30 minutes putting my shoes in my new shoe racks and I think I may have just the tinsiest shoe fettish ( 67 pairs) eeek

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:49 AM

TRISTAN


msg, no problem at all. If you ever feel like chatting about it, start a thread and PM the address!
67 pairs of shoes, eh? Well, Imelda Marcos still had you beat (I think), so you should be alright .

I suppose we can ratchet this down one more notch and discuss masturbation, alone or with a SO, and the possible voyeuristic enjoyment of said events.
Thoughts and comments?


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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:54 AM

TRISTAN


Ok, we've hit over 200 posts...I am starting a new thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=21565

See you there!


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Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:08 AM

JSUSAGI


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Tristan- oh my god Ihope your wife thanks her lucky stars every day!! Anyway yes I do re-clean after I have pointed out the unclean parts, but all that seems to achieve is an "I don't know what you are talking about" look and some snotty comments about stuff I don't do well.

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I do! tristan is a better wife than I am! There was about two weeks after we got married that I did the house wife thing..you know, cooking and cleaning. then, I got over it. Sometimes I feel I have failed him as a wife, and no matter what he says, I will always feel guilt for not cooking and cleaning on my off days (like today)

So, guys, is it important to you that your SO play the prim and proper housewife, or do you like her the way she is no matter what?

Later my lovlies!

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