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Angel, Buffy, or Firefly. Choose only one.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:18 PM

OPPYH


Be honest you can't like all Whedon shows the same, so if you were forced to choose only one show to ever watch again, which would it be. I know this may seem like a dumb thread being on a Firefly specific site, but I love surprises, and you may surprise yourself if forced to pick.

Buffy is my favorite by far. If it wasn't for Buffy I never would have even thought twice about Firefly. Do you remeber the old days of Buffy on the WB? remember the magic from week to week? Buffy in my opinion will stand the test of time as a great tv series. Wish I could say the same for Firefly, but no show that lasts around a dozen episodes is ever considered a classic....unfortunate. Firefly is almost like it never happened, a good what if scenario. You have just witnessed a brilliant show that got cancelled. Now what if it didn't(speculate, become sad,move on). Oh well I still have Buffy.

Oh and about Angel. I liked seasons 1,2, and 5.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:20 PM

13


Might incite some wrath, but:

Angel.




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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:22 PM

PAYTHEMAN


Firefly, duh.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:24 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Firefly.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:38 PM

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Firefly

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:44 PM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION


Firefly.

I tried watching Buffy a couple of times. It was so stupid.

So...yeah..Firefly.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:54 PM

JWALDRUP


I love Buffy and Angel, but if I only get one it's gotta be Firefly.

You can't take my toes from me. -- Joss Whedon

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:56 PM

KINROEDARKSTONE


Firefly

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Wash: Closing in.
Zoe: Planet's coming up a might fast.
Wash: That's just 'cause I'm goin' down too quick. Likely crash and kill us all.
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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:57 PM

INDIANABANZAI


Quote:

Originally posted by 13:
Might incite some wrath, but:

Angel.






Same here. Angel was better than Buffy IMHO, and had more episodes than Firefly, so there's more to enjoy.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:13 PM

JAHZARA


I have love for all, and if Buffy had ended earlier, it would be closer, but ultimately...

Firefly.

There's just this sense of family, of belonging, that Buffy lost and Angel almost had. I feel the characters in Firefly, I'm the tenth person at that mess table. Although it is short, by almost every merit, I think its the best show overall.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:16 PM

PENGUIN





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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:27 PM

RIVER6213


I love BTVS and just finished up with season 5, but if I had to pick a favorite, it would be FireFly

River

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:44 PM

EVILDINOSAUR


gotta say buffy, might have been firefly if it had had more episodes.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:45 PM

RMMC


Firefly.

Buffy's a very close 2nd, but Firefly is tops.

*****
RMMC

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:11 PM

SHADOWJO


FIREFLY FOR SURE

If there isn't any chocolate in heaven, then I ain't going

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:21 PM

SHINYYUKARI


Firefly...

Buffy is a close second...

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:39 PM

EMBERS


Firefly is my favorite...

but I would fight anyone who tries to take away my Buffy, I would even object strenuously if you try to take away Angel....

I insist on having all three...
and anything else Joss makes in the future as well.



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have you checked out this thread?:
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and listen to 'I'm Going To See Serenity':
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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:22 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Firefly (as if there was any question)

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:28 AM

RIVERSGUY


You couldn't have asked an easier question, like what is Pi to a hundred decimal spaces!!

I'm gunna have to with, and I think I'm the only one so far, BtVS.

It's what got me hooked on the Whedonverse and without it I doubt I would have got into Angel or Firefly so for that alone Buffy gets my vote.

And I owe it all to Dazedlam for telling me about it too !!! Cheers mate

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:47 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Firefly. No doubt.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:52 AM

ALCON


Gonna have to go with Buffy. I love Firefly, but there's not enough of it and I've already got all the episodes memorized. If there was more it'd be the clear winner, but with seven seasons... yeah, Buffy wins. It's hard to get bored with a show when there are over 100 episodes to watch ;)

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down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the road has gone,
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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:06 AM

TAMFANIAM


I caught all of them late...Firefly after it was cancelled (not too hard, it lasting only 1 season & all). Buffy was good, Angel was almost as, but Firefly, even being only 1 season, was far and away the best. The combination of the basic premise, the characters (not to mention a cast that welded together became more solid than titanium), a rhythm of language (both 'Firefly'-speak and Chinese)not found anywhere else; all together just cannot be beat.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:17 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
Firefly.

I tried watching Buffy a couple of times. It was so stupid.

So...yeah..Firefly.


Well, you didn't give Buffy much of a chance then, because clearly you're intelligent enough...It's all metaphores, love.

I appreciate Buffy as much as I obsess on Max, but-

IT MUST BE FIREFLY.

Chrisisall, wannabe Mal, came up Wash

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:18 AM

STILLSHINY


Firefly. no question.

2nd would be Angel



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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:27 AM

RUGBUG


Buffy.

If I had seven seasons of Firefly to obsess over (maybe just two or three would've done the trick) it would've been top...if it had continued to be as brilliant as it was. But you just can't compare 1/2 season to 7.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:30 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Why is so much emphasis being placed on the length of the series? Maybe Firefly wasn't as long as the others, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a high-quality, well-acted series. Not trying to say anyone's wrong, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:45 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Buffy.

If I had seven seasons of Firefly to obsess over (maybe just two or three would've done the trick) it would've been top...if it had continued to be as brilliant as it was. But you just can't compare 1/2 season to 7.

RugBug, I thought about the most personally affecting moment in Buffy (last few minutes of Chosen), and the same of Firefly ("Everybody dies alone." or "Don't tell em what I done; make something up..."), and I'm left with the idea that Firefly was just more 'real' to me, and on that alone, my decision is made.
But Buffy is such a rich tapestry from which to draw , I can easily see your decision...

Joss biotch Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:45 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I never did watch much Buffy. I'm sorry, truly sorry, to all the Buffy fans here, but I really, really can't stand Sarah Michelle Gellar. I don't know why she bothers me so much but she does. The one episode I watched all the way through only featured her as an almost side-note. So, having never gotten into Buffy at all, I also never watched Angel. Hearing that he was "Buffy's Vampire boyfriend" really got to me in the first place. I'm sorry, but how soap-opera can you get? The Slayer in love with a Vampire...
I'm sure the writing was good, I'm sure it had some great moments and all that is apparently inherent to a Whedon creation but I just...didn't...care.

To emulate the great and venerable Penguin...

All the way.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:50 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


To steal is to show love! Thats my story Penquin and I am sticking to it!




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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:52 AM

ZEEK


hmmmm let's see which dvds never even make it to the shelf....Firefly. Even though it's far fewer episodes, I can watch them over and over. There's just so much there to love.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:59 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I never did watch much Buffy. I'm sorry, truly sorry, to all the Buffy fans here, but I really, really can't stand Sarah Michelle Gellar. I don't know why she bothers me so much but she does. The one episode I watched all the way through only featured her as an almost side-note. So, having never gotten into Buffy at all, I also never watched Angel. Hearing that he was "Buffy's Vampire boyfriend" really got to me in the first place. I'm sorry, but how soap-opera can you get? The Slayer in love with a Vampire... I'm sure the writing was good, I'm sure it had some great moments and all that is apparently inherent to a Whedon creation but I just...didn't...care.
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I completely sympathize, PR. SMG was one of the things that kept me from watching Buffy when it was on, though I am willing to give it a try (if only to see the episodes with our captain in it ). I never watched Angel either, but I guess I felt like I would have to watch Buffy to really understand it.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:16 AM

KAYLEESTHEGREATEST


firefly


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june 23rd serenity day

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:17 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I never did watch much Buffy. I'm sorry, truly sorry, to all the Buffy fans here, but I really, really can't stand Sarah Michelle Gellar. I don't know why she bothers me so much but she does.

I was no SMG fan, thought she looked too small to be any kind of 'slayer', but I gave it a chance due to all the mental tortures visited upon me by Buffyfans all over this site, and damn if she didn't win me over.
But try as I might, I can't fully get into Angel, so I can understand where you're coming from...

But in the end, IT'S ALL ABOUT FIREFLY.

Under the radar Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:25 AM

LONGLOSTBRISTOW


Buffy.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:25 AM

TRISTAN


Firefly. Why we still talkin' 'bout this?

I have seen quite a lot of Buffy (unfortunately), all of Angel except the final episode (it's not really over until you see the last episode, right?), and all of Firefly. I did not like Buffy at all. Sarah Michelle Gellar ruined it for me...Allison Hannigan was the only reason I would watch it at all. I really liked Angel, and that made me try to watch more Buffy, but I just couldn't do it...I tried, I really did, just could not enjoy it.
Then came Firefly. Well, Serenity came first for me, but I think you know what I mean. Firefly turned me into a Browncoat. I have never before joined an online community dedicated to anything, let alone a tv show...it changed the way I think, talk, and sometimes act. So, yes, Firefly has my vote.




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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:28 AM

LONGLOSTBRISTOW


An interesting tidbit:

Nathan Fillion auditioned for the part of Angel way back in the day. That came straight from him when I had him sign my Buffy/Angel poster at Moonlight Rising.


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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:28 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan:


I have seen quite a lot of Buffy (unfortunately),

Poor Buffy, not feelin' the love on this thread...

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:36 AM

ALCON


I was really reluctant to get into Buffy to at first. The whole concept... some of the stuff that I'd heard (that it was very soap operay). It struck me as a very silly silly show. But what it came down to was this: it's Joss Whedon, how bad can it be? It's another creation of Joss. So I gave it a chance. I started with season 1 and told myself I'd watch through season 2. If I really didn't like it by then I'd give up. ...and I fell in love with the show and its characters.

All the things that people say about the show... well they're true. It is very soap operay at times... it is very silly at times. But it is also Joss Whedon. Which means that the individual actors don't have to be stellar. The writing is amazing and just like Firefly (though not quite as well) they welded together into a strong cast, shoring up each others weaknesses. And to be honest... Gellar grew on me. There's more there than people give her credit for.

So in short, yeah, if Firefly had gone longer it'd probably beat Buffy, but then again, part of the reason some people don't like Buffy is becuase there were a few rough seasons in there... maybe if Firefly had gone longer it'd have some of the same problems as Buffy. But for me right now... I've watched the Firefly episodes more times than I can count converting new folks. I've got em all memorized beyond memorization (I can quote many of them start to end in the way I used to do Monty Python episodes). And frankly... I'm kinda bored with the episodes that exist. Were there more I'd gobble them up in an instant... but there's not. So Buffy takes the cake for me. There's simply too much there for me to memorize like that, so I can keep rewatching it and getting the pleasure of watching it for the first time... almost.. becuase I've forgotten what happened since I last watched it.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:41 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by longlostbristow:
An interesting tidbit:

Nathan Fillion auditioned for the part of Angel way back in the day. That came straight from him when I had him sign my Buffy/Angel poster at Moonlight Rising.




I love David and all, but our captain as a sexy vapmire...

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:50 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Alcon:
I've watched the Firefly episodes more times than I can count converting new folks. I've got em all memorized beyond memorization (I can quote many of them start to end in the way I used to do Monty Python episodes).

Buffy's gonna be like that for me soon...

Lots of memory Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:51 AM

MSG


Love Buffy and no disrespect to her, but FIREFLY all the way. I agree with Chrisisall that Firefly is just more real to me. Luckily we never ever have to make such a hard choice. We can have them all!!!

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:07 AM

RIVERGIRL


for me its FIREFLY
never saw Angel and only a handful of Buffy ((seems there was a character--Caleb!!))

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:10 AM

INDIGOSTARBLASTER


I love them all, but have to go with Firefly.

Mind you, that's probably because it's what I need to see right now. I'm not a teenager anymore, or even a young adult. I need to see what Joss has to say about being a middling-aged adult, about being married, about having kids, and about being an ordinary person in a universe with infuriating bureaucracy on one side and scary chaos on the other.

Gorram it, I need to see how Zoe and Wash would've handled their jobs, their marriage, and a kid all at the same time. I need to see how Mal would've handled being competent but not particularly special in a universe pretty much indifferent to his success or failure. I even need to see how Simon would've handled just not being able to do the work he most wanted to do.

Now I'm getting all worked up again... I'm kinda embarrassed about just how obsessed I am.

Indigo S.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:46 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by IndigoStarblaster:
I'm kinda embarrassed about just how obsessed I am.


You should be.

Excuse me, I have a real life.
I need to finish painting my Leggo Serenity.

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:33 AM

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Need I say more?

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:00 AM

22CLAWS

Entirely pointy.


Buffy.
Firefly may be a better show, and, I hope there will be more, but Buffy is my hero.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:05 AM

WTE


Buffy, no contest. It's completely unfair to Firefly, because I was watching Buffy as it aired when I was in the second grade (heh, my parents didn't know I was watching it; hence, my watching it), and it was the first show I ever got attached to, at least while it was still on the air. I stopped watching mid-fifth season, I just couldn't stand Dawn, but I'd pick Buffy if only for the first three seasons.

I don't know if I'd go for Angel or Firefly after that, though. Angel has a lot of the memories that Buffy does (since I watched that right from the beginning), but Firefly is just damn fine television.

HONKS

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:16 PM

CAPTURE


I could not hate buffy more (sorry Joss).

Firefly is the best sci-fi show ever created and Fox really F*ed up canceling it!

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:48 PM

SERENITYGREY


i love everything Joss does (though i'm still cross with him about the last episode of Angel) but you can't take my Firefly from me.

Go read my fanfic series "Puppy Love." i'm a comment glutton.

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