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Male and Female Imponderables--All the World's a Stage

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:46 AM

TRISTAN


SpaceAnJL, I used to use live steel for sparring, from the whippy little No.5's through rapier blades up through StarFires. I am smart enough to know that fighting with live steel can lead to serious injuries. I learned through experience, and felt it important enough to teach this valuable lesson to others. I trained them with live steel, but the free sparring, which involves unchoreographed contact, requires weapons that will not create serious injuries. Hence, the PVC. It still has enough weight for your opponent to feel it, it doesn't break all that easy, but is cheap to replace when it does.
Sorry about that, but I have met too many people who claim to be fighters, only to see them go at each other with steel only to get seriously injured.

It does sound like your club was a lot of fun, though. And yes, our house movie-watching is much along the same lines.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:46 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Kenobius

I HAD to learn to drive a standard. I bought a car without my mom's ok when I was a teenager - it was a Porsche 911. Standard. She refused to help me get it home - so in I got, took me 2 hours to make a 30 minute drive. But at the end of it, I could drive a standard!


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:47 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
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Originally posted by RugBug:
I pretty much drive it topless from June to October.



A crappy thing about being single - no SO to help me take the top off! Hard top - I can't do it myself! I plan on rigging something involving pulleys in my garage to help with that, but haven't figured it out yet.




I've got a hard top as well as a soft top. Lifting that awkward 140 pounds keeps my car in the soft top most of the time. But hard is nice in winter.

I've got the pulley that Dayve mentioned bookmarked in the catalog. One of these days I will get around to purchasing it. I also want the hardtop stand, but don't know if that will tweak the top. For now the top just sits in the garage, and luckily, with the Jeep being so short, it fits right in front of it with about 3 inches to spare.

Counseling: I think the good thing about counseling is that a (good) counsellor will tell you when you're full of crap and being drama queen. They can often sort between the truth of the matter and the act. Friends don't usually do that. Talking through things in and of itself is a good thing, but sometimes you need someone impartial to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

I could stand some therapy but just haven't gone there yet.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:49 AM

KENOBIUS


Well, if I had a Porsche 911 modivated me, I could probably work on it.

Until I get a better job, I'm stuck with the Tempo, so I don't have to worrying about it for awhile.


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:49 AM

TRISTAN


PR, oddly enough, my favorite pistol is a .380ACP. Not too much stopping power, but the recoil is low enough to allow you to drive nails. And rifles...yes, I love rifles. Not so much the more modern ones with all the lights, etc. I like historical rifles.

Hmm. We seem to have gotten off the Imponderable trail a bit...

Umm. It's still too early for me to form one...anyone else?

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:51 AM

SPACEANJL


I should have added that we all wore the correct safety gear. Nobody put a blade up without a helmet check, etc. We had a bloke at college who got thrown out of the club there - his nickname was 'Flymo' - which is a type of rotary mower, so you can get the idea of his fighting technique. I have actually coached beginners, and I've seen the welts idiocy can leave even through a padded jacket.

It's all great fun, until somebody loses an eye...

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:53 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


The imponderable is why do men automatically assume that woman are bad drivers? Cause that makes me so


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:53 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Kenobius

I HAD to learn to drive a standard. I bought a car without my mom's ok when I was a teenager - it was a Porsche 911. Standard. She refused to help me get it home - so in I got, took me 2 hours to make a 30 minute drive. But at the end of it, I could drive a standard!


That there is a pretty funny story!

Yeah, good therapists will tell someone if they're just being a drama queen, but bad ones seem to actually encourage it. Really, there have been people who've said "My therapist said I should let this kind of thing out. They support me. Nothing is my fault."
That made me sick.
And IMO, a good friend will act the same way. I've had friends who didn't agree, and wanted to be told nothing was their fault. Sometimes they worked through that, sometimes they stopped talking to me. Oh well.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:59 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan:
PR, oddly enough, my favorite pistol is a .380ACP. Not too much stopping power, but the recoil is low enough to allow you to drive nails. And rifles...yes, I love rifles. Not so much the more modern ones with all the lights, etc. I like historical rifles.


Only kind I've shot. My grandpa takes very good care of his guns.


Not all men assume women are bad drivers. I met a browncoat a little bit ago, and he said something about women drivers (a little while after telling a story about his near-death accident) And I said "You know, I think my record is a lot cleaner than yours!" He kind of shut up, but added "Yeah, there are just girls I wouldn't want to ride with." I said yeah, me too. In fact, I nearly always drive no matter who I'm with. But I've trusted a lot more women than men."
Plus our insurance is lower, so

I actually saw some statistics on it awhile ago; women are responsible for more fender-benders and men are responsible for more accidents where there was serious injury/death/totalled car. That would drive up their rates a bit, ya?

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:00 AM

TRISTAN


SpaceAnJL, I apologize. I should have known you wore safety equipment. You mentioned the college groups, and my immediate thoughts were of unarmored amateurs swinging wildly about. "Flymo"...yep, that's funny! (And a bit scary, too)

Funny story about losing an eye...I didn't actually lose one, but came close. This one time, at Ren Faire (yes, I was channeling Mrs. Hannigan), I was hit in the face with an axe during a performance. It was a huge battle axe we had had made by a metal shop for our production; heavy but dull. My opponent messed up his choreography, reversed a swing, and caught me across the right side of my face, from jaw to eyebrow, with the edge of the axe. Knocked me down, cut me up a bit, and left my eye all nice and red for a week or so. It was after that fight that I decided safety should become a major concern when fighting. There were no other serious injuries from then until I quit doing Ren Faires. So, I hope that explains my obsession with safety?

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:14 AM

KENOBIUS


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:

I actually saw some statistics on it awhile ago; women are responsible for more fender-benders and men are responsible for more accidents where there was serious injury/death/totalled car. That would drive up their rates a bit, ya?



It's like my director always says "Screw up, screw up big."


As for friendly advice, I do my best. I listen to people, but then I usually tell them something they don't want to hear and they'll ignore my advice and try the next friend. I'm kinda use to it.


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:18 AM

TRISTAN


Hey, most men don't like to do things small. Why have a fender-bender when you can really mess things up? Yes, male insurance is higher until they reach a certain age. It is assumed we mature then, and will be less likely to cause problems on the road. Women, on the other hand, are usually consistent in their driving habits. I have no problem with female drivers at all. I do, like PR, have issues of not being in control in an automobile, though. Something I am working on, though.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:22 AM

SPACEANJL


I find that if I give advice, it tends to be practical. Apparently, this is supposed to be a more 'masculine' trait. Weirdly enough, although I have a real Wednesday Addams/scary cat stare going on, I also seem to be the kind of person people bring their problems to.

Did anyone else spend their teens being told to be more like they 'should' be? I'm not gender dysmorphic or anything, but I was never a 'girly' girl. More into sci-fi and the like. I'm the one in our house who owns the kickass dvds and the really loud rock.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:31 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Some people had their opinions of my attitude/behavior, but my parents didn't mind that I wasn't the girliest of girls. My dad's mind did seem to catch a bit on the whole "liking girls" thing, but he got over that. I rebelled against being too girly because all the girls I couldn't stand were all "pink is great and skirts are great and I'm going to spend an hour on my hair tee hee." Gag me. Now I do like skirts, but still don't wear makeup often, nor do I like pink anymore. I have always loved sci-fi and action movies. Put me in front of a horror movie, though, and I go total girl. I can throw and bat decently, I can kick the crap out of a heavy bag, and I can knock folk out in a low-cut top. I like bing a girl, so obviously I don't have gender dysphoria either, but I don't think I should be kept away from weapons

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:32 AM

EMMARIGBY


I'm sorry it looks like you've moved on from talking about sparring but I couldn't resist posting these little gifs of my friends sparring again( some will have already seen them but I thought they were very funny!). We had a solstice party which ended with sparring with wooden breakers to try out the Celtic shield my friend had just made (yes, THAT shield! If you don't know what I mean... don't ask!)



Okay, back to the imponderables, sorry for the hijak!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:34 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Still wanna see that picture, Emma

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:40 AM

TRISTAN


I second that, Emma...I'd like to see that!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:40 AM

EMMARIGBY


Eeep! Not gonna happen! As you can see, it's not that large a shield!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:45 AM

TRISTAN


And that, dear Emma, is why we would like to see it.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:46 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


This is bad why?


*edit* gorrammit Tristan and I need to stop thinking alike!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:49 AM

PENGUIN


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I can kick the crap out of a heavy bag...





(sorry she's pink! lol)


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:50 AM

KENOBIUS


I think this is one of those times where being a greenhorn pays off.

EDIT: Man, you browncoats are posting ninjas! I can't keep up!


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:53 AM

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I loves me weapons...

My Coke knife...WWII combat knife...Delilah the Trainer Katana...Betty the Hunk of Sharp Steel...the ever-popular board-with-a-nail...my switchblade...the whip...

Wha? No whip.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:59 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:



Man that is funny!
It should swing around more, though...

Yes, we are the ninjas. Must always be on top of things!





NO! Not like that! Y'all get your minds out of the gutter!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 AM

KENOBIUS

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:07 AM

MAL4PREZ


I go away for awhile and all these new topics flash by...

Thanks for the Jeep top remover advice, Dayve and Rugbug! I'm going to look into it. My purchasing power, as pathetic as it is, is much greater than my ability to build something.

I'm not much good with any weapon except a hockey stick. But, really, I consider myself in hockey gear to be a weapon. Hip check - crunch!!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:10 AM

MSG


Morning all...just woke up and holy smack!!! OK so I really shouldn't sleep in and this is yet another reason why:)

PR- just google singles functions or do it on city search. I don't know about where you are, but here there are tons of social activities ( not involving religion or bars) and many of them are designated singles only...

Tristan_ such a cute little safty monster you are:) Live steel isn't that bad ( been afew years mind, but I can still manage) I do have some scars on arms and hands from it, bit with facemask and full gear it's not all that bad:)

Emma- oh just post it before Tristan and PR's imagination go through the roof and they looose their jobs from lack of attention:)

Cars- I can and have driven a stick and it's fun. That said, my car now is an automatic ( Inferno Red Jeep Liberty) My brother in law owns a dealership so our whole family is all Jeep/Chrysler all the time... it's so funny to pull up at my parents house during a big get together and it looks like a Jeep car lot:)


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:18 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


M4P- Crazy girls and their Jeeps. I have to say chicks and trucks are so hot. I love to see a girl in a Rod or muscle car from time to time. Girls on motorcyles are cool. Worry not, its the dunces like myself who must venture fourth and build. Looking for an early Thirty's Ford coupe, preferably a Deuce. Gotta live out the John Milner fantasy.

Oh yeah, thanks for the visual. Ooooh, hip check!
Yes please.

Update to follow on Ms. Ponderable, (Formerly Ms. Incredible and also known as Ms. Questionable)

Gotta work, boss is close.


"Where do bad folks go when they die?"

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:19 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION





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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:21 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:

PR- just google singles functions or do it on city search. I don't know about where you are, but here there are tons of social activities ( not involving religion or bars) and many of them are designated singles only...


I'm gettin' nothing...

Lots of dating sites. That didn't work last time.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:28 AM

MSG


NV- ok keep us posted ( side note good to know my motorcycle and I are cool)

FMF- I am wearing the "you had me at hell no shirt"

PR- hmmm ok that's it you have to move to salt lake!!! Or just check in with local non-denominational churches ( not overly religious) and see if they have anything...or volunteer for charity ( great way to meet people ) like Habitat for Humanity or such!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:31 AM

KENOBIUS


Or maybe community theater?


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:39 AM

MSG


ooh that's a good idea kenobius. Theater would help you meet tons of people..many of whom have access to eligible ladies... and gentlemen and theater people are a lot less biased toward those who aren't middle of the road!

That goes for all our shy guys...you don't have to be the actor to volunteer or join local theater. People who can make/build props, work lights or sound, help with costumes, or even just crew ( move sets/props on and off stage) are always welcome and I doubt you'd find nicer or more accepting people anywhere...just a thought

EDIT- here's my imponderable. Why do guys think that acting like a doofus is a good way to get a womans attention???

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:44 AM

TRISTAN


Alright, Imponderables, hold your posts. We are getting long in the tooth...time for a new home. Be back shortly with the link.
-EDIT-
Our new home!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22193
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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:48 AM

KENOBIUS


I've been doing theater now for a couple of years and I can say that it's like one big support group. We all help each other out. The whole show kinda takes a backseat to all the friendships and going-ons behind the stage. And speaking from experience, we need more young adult ladies

As for your question msg, I really don't have an answer. I guess females makes our innards go all fuzzy and wobbly, making it very difficult to think properly. I know I am guiltily as charged. I could learn a billion lines and do the most embarrassing things on stage, but I can't talk to a girl without it turning sour real fast.


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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:17 AM

GED


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
My dad does tai-chi. He's suggested take up a knife-fighting style called Silat; there's a quite reputable school here. Now I just need more time and money.
I hate my job.



Penjak Silat is a pretty darn cool. It's Filipino knife fighting, which is traditionally done on muddy ground, as it rains a lot in the Philippines (sp?). One of my sensei's studied this for many years in the Philippines, and it's crazy stuff.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:09 AM

AZHEA


Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan:
Azhea, the topless part, or the bunk part? 'Cause, the bunk part may not be all that pretty...



The topless part love!! I'll respect the closed bunk hatch and retire to my own.

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