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A little bit of hope-Joss posts at Whendonesque

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Friday, August 25, 2006 11:26 AM

NCBROWNCOAT


Got this from another Firefly group that I'm a member of.

It's a post by Joss at

http://whedonesque.com/?comments=11198#138754

He's updating "Wondy Gal" and Goners and then comes one of his usual cryptic sayings:

Some other little irons in the fire, when they're hot I'll pull 'em out and brand you. Keep the faith, spread the love, take the red pill, smell the coffee, fight the power, do the hustle, mow the lawn, eat the rich, Mott the Hoople, kick the can, bag the toads and If They Move, Kill 'Em. xoxo -j.

I can only speculate but it gives me hope that something Firefly/Serenity is in the works somewhere.

All I can say is "Hold, Hold until I get back."-Mal BDM



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Friday, August 25, 2006 11:40 AM

NCBROWNCOAT


I needed to bump this because it really gives me a good feeling that something is in the works.


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Friday, August 25, 2006 11:44 AM

BAD2VERSE


Quote:

Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
Got this from another group that I'm a member of. It's a post by Joss at < http://whedonesque.com/?comments=11198#138754>http://whedonesque.com/?
comments=11198#138754

He's updating "Wondy Gal" and Goners and then comes one of his usual cryptic sayings:

Some other little irons in the fire, when they're hot I'll pull 'em out and brand you. Keep the faith, spread the love, (snip)

I can only speculate but it gives me hope that something Firefly/Serenity is in the works somewhere.



I saw it too.. and I've asked a friend at an advertising firm to ask F*x AND Sci-fi about "A possible Firefly return" (Their firm handles advertising for several large companies)

Sci-fi gave him the usual song and dance about F*X owning the rights, but that they were showing the Series in the UK if he wanted to put advertising there...

F*X gave him the standard "there's been a lot of questions about it returning, but the cast is tied up with other obligations "at the moment"" (Which wasn't a "NO")...

Hey, cling to what hope we can, and make the road in front of Joss as smooth as possible in case he DOES decide to give us more.

Remember that MANY shows failed initially (Tremors has a cult following, and they now ONLY release Tremors movies directly to DVD, but they DO make them) but have been resurrected in some form or another.

Tremors does it by using the "DVD only" format using investors that are "Longer term investors"..

Most companies want to make their money (and interest) FAST, like in the first opening weeks... but there are other companies are out there that don't mind getting their money (and interest) a bit slower in return (Over a period of months).

Facts are, Firefly and Serenity are STILL making money with DVD sales, Other Channels renting them to show, and merchandising.

ALL of the Firefly/Serenity material has made it into the black eventually, and then everything from that point on is profit... And there ARE companies out there that will take a "Sure thing" when it pays for itself, even if it takes "Longer than usual" to pay dividends.

Why do you think F*x is holding on to the rights? It's still making them money! Slowly, true, But SURELY and steadily... and ANYTHING that makes money has someone eyeing it to make THEM money.

I invest... If *I* see a company forming to give FireFly another shot (in ANY format), I'll put money in it, Cult followings of this size are sure things in the long run (Providing the show isn't totally hosed by new actors playing old roles, or trying to take the show in a different direction..).. Hey, I wish *I* had stock in the Rocky Horror Picture show, and I've never even seen it, but it's still being shown SOMEWHERE all the time.. those dollars coming in from every showing are going into someone's pocket.

F*x admits THEY screwed up... I can only believe they are letting the show "simmer" to build support for a future return done CORRECTLY.


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Friday, August 25, 2006 11:45 AM

EMBERS


I'll bump it too...
I LOVE it when Joss posts at Whedonesque to tell us what he is up to:

Quote:

Just wanted to drop in and say "Thank God we got rid of Marts." An evil, petty man with an enormous hookah and a smelly, writhing bag of toads. He's the worst thing to happen to the X-men since, well, me.

Truth be typed, Mike has been a great editor and a sweetheart of a guy. Marvel's loss is D.C.'s gain, and affects Oni press in no way. Mike helped me do a hell of a lot of catching up on the X-verse, was always patient with a)my confusion and b)me. A gent. Now I read some folk bashin' 'cause of X-continuity issues but that is not Mike's fault. It's not even mine. X-continuity is a statistical impossibility. Too many books, too many schedules, too many cross-overs -- that's why my stuff tends to take place all in one day or way out of town. Mike couldn't tell you if my stories come exactly before or after certain things and neither could I. So let that lie. I'm just gonna miss a cool colleague.

(Bag of toads? Hell was that about?)

And since I haven't posted (anything real) in some time let me bring y'all up to speed. The Brothers Warner HAVE read Wondy Gal, and are arranging a meeting to tell me that it is a perfect crystalline gem and I must not change a word, nay, not a syllable. I'm certain that's how it will go. I'm pounding away on X-men #18 and Buffy #2 and having a blast. Like a "close the blast doors" sized blast, especialy after I saw my first page of Georges Jeanty's Buffy art. That cute little sketch on his website? No, no, silly british man. The real thing is SO deeply cherry. It makes the fun I'm having revisiting these characters increase tenfold. For you Goners folk out there, just know I'm fine-tuning the script, feeling increasingly passionate about it, and I'm anxious to start dribbling out cryptic, frustrating hints. Soon.

Some other little irons in the fire, when they're hot I'll pull 'em out and brand you. Keep the faith, spread the love, take the red pill, smell the coffee, fight the power, do the hustle, mow the lawn, eat the rich, Mott the Hoople, kick the can, bag the toads and If They Move, Kill 'Em. xoxo -j.

joss | August 25, 02:06 CET



he is funny...and only vaguely informative,
but always a good read

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Friday, August 25, 2006 11:51 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
Got this from another Firefly group that I'm a member of. It's a post by Joss at < http://whedonesque.com/?comments=11198#138754>http://whedonesque.com/?
comments=11198#138754

He's updating "Wondy Gal" and Goners and then comes one of his usual cryptic sayings:

Some other little irons in the fire, when they're hot I'll pull 'em out and brand you. Keep the faith, spread the love, take the red pill, smell the coffee, fight the power, do the hustle, mow the lawn, eat the rich, Mott the Hoople, kick the can, bag the toads and If They Move, Kill 'Em. xoxo -j.

I can only speculate but it gives me hope that something Firefly/Serenity is in the works somewhere.



I think speculating might be a tiny bit premature but yes it is a good sign as far as it goes. Which isn't particularly far but every journey... as they say.

Now on to the check list,

Keep the faith? Check.

Spread the love? Check!

Take the red pill? Check.

Smell the coffee? Ummm arabica, check.

Fight the power? Does ConEd count? If so, check.

Do the hustle? Can I do the hippy shake instead? No? Alright, hustle done. Check.

Mow the lawn? The service comes by every monday So either check for this week or in process for next week. Hell let's just call it a check.

Eat the rich? I just had a stack of pancakes with absolutely gobs of butter. Rich enough for my blood. Check.

Mott the Hoople?

All the young dudes
Carry the news
Boogaloo dudes
Carry the news

Check!

kick the can? Check.

Bag the toads? Check.

If They Move, Kill 'Em. Check.

Well it looks like I've done my part.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Friday, August 25, 2006 11:52 AM

SHROUDED


Well, that's a shiny bit of information.

Hehehe. Take the red pill. Matrix reference.

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When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't do that you sit still and watch episodes of Firefly.

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Friday, August 25, 2006 12:02 PM

NCBROWNCOAT


I know it's not much but it's enough. to paraphrase Mal.


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Friday, August 25, 2006 12:04 PM

SHROUDED


It gives us hope. And hope is a dangerous thing to lose, so Joss, GIVE US ANOTHER BDS! XD

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Friday, August 25, 2006 12:39 PM

NOTYOLANDA


Hi Embers,
I'm new to the Browncoats. What does it mean when people say they will "bump" it? Inquiring minds want to know. Have a shiny day! Elaine

Please! Nobody died last time!

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Friday, August 25, 2006 12:44 PM

SEAOTTER


By replying to the topic, it moves the topic to the top of the list, since they are arranged with newest first.

So often we do it to keep the topic in the public eye.

Like to remind people to vote!


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Friday, August 25, 2006 12:50 PM

BAD2VERSE


Quote:

Originally posted by NotYolanda:
Hi Embers,
I'm new to the Browncoats. What does it mean when people say they will "bump" it? Inquiring minds want to know. Have a shiny day! Elaine



As the others have said, it's to keep older messages up near the top.. the Archives don't always work due to process errors, so it's a bit safer to bump up important posts lest they be lost to the Archive monster ;)

BTW, Admins, Anything I can do to help with that? I primarily Speak *nix, but can find my way around a Windows platform also. It seems the Spawned child process limits may be set a bit too low, and I don't know if that's on purpose (to save bandwidth) or just a config error... I'm also not sure what type of "Lock" this site uses to keep the posters separated, but it seems to take a bit of time to release/pass the lock when there's several folks posting, but I suspect that is a pure bandwidth issue... but if I can help in anyway, you've got my E-mail and I'd be glad to do so.

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Friday, August 25, 2006 2:06 PM

EMBERS


Hey there NotYolanda, I see others have answered your question before me...
and in doing have managed to 'bump' the thread a couple more times!

BTW since you're new to the Browncoat I thought you'd want to check out this thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

enjoy and welcome

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Friday, August 25, 2006 4:08 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Thanks for posting this!
I swear, I feel crazy, but Joss' little, cryptic closing paragraph gives me so much hope. Do you think he knows the effect his "code" has on the fans? He must and I'm sure he does it on purpose- Sneaky jerk.

"Can't take the sky..."

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Friday, August 25, 2006 5:15 PM

TVCHICK


Thanks for posting. Always great to hear, er, read from Joss. :)

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Friday, August 25, 2006 5:21 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:

Sneaky jerk.


My thougths exactly (except when I'm watching the BDM, and then I say much worse things).

But, really - whatever Joss says or writes is really intelligent and thoughtful, and that only adds to his likeability. It's what propels the fans from "that really cool writer of this show" to "Joss Whedon is my master," I do believe.

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Friday, August 25, 2006 5:38 PM

RIO


WOOT WOOT GO JOSS!


So if I could I'd wish it all away, if I thought tomorrow would take you away.
You're my peace of mind, my home, my center.
Just trying to hold on one more day.
Dim my eyes
Dim my eyes
dim my eyes if they should compromise our fulcrum.
Want and need divide me then I might as well
be gone.
-Tool

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Friday, August 25, 2006 5:47 PM

DEVONNITE


When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, singing words of wisdom let it "BUMP...

I think that "Keep the Faith" and "Spread the Love" is certainly refering to the "Verse"

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Friday, August 25, 2006 6:33 PM

IN2THEBLACK


It'd be time-consuming (but maybe a little fun) to sit here and try to break down and deconstruct the crypticness and relate it to the 'verse, but the overwhelming "makes me feel good" bit is that it's a cryptic little message - whenever JW seemed to be really bummed out about the chances of anything happening, he has expressed it verrrrry directly, but if there's some sorta hope, it gets him going, stimulates the ole creativity gland, and we get little messages like that. I am enthused!


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Friday, August 25, 2006 6:50 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by bad2verse:
Quote:

Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
Got this from another group that I'm a member of. It's a post by Joss at < http://whedonesque.com/?comments=11198#138754>http://whedonesque.com/?
comments=11198#138754

He's updating "Wondy Gal" and Goners and then comes one of his usual cryptic sayings:

Some other little irons in the fire, when they're hot I'll pull 'em out and brand you. Keep the faith, spread the love, (snip)

I can only speculate but it gives me hope that something Firefly/Serenity is in the works somewhere.



I saw it too.. and I've asked a friend at an advertising firm to ask F*x AND Sci-fi about "A possible Firefly return" (Their firm handles advertising for several large companies)

Sci-fi gave him the usual song and dance about F*X owning the rights, but that they were showing the Series in the UK if he wanted to put advertising there...

F*X gave him the standard "there's been a lot of questions about it returning, but the cast is tied up with other obligations "at the moment"" (Which wasn't a "NO")...

Hey, cling to what hope we can, and make the road in front of Joss as smooth as possible in case he DOES decide to give us more.

Remember that MANY shows failed initially (Tremors has a cult following, and they now ONLY release Tremors movies directly to DVD, but they DO make them) but have been resurrected in some form or another.

Tremors does it by using the "DVD only" format using investors that are "Longer term investors"..

Most companies want to make their money (and interest) FAST, like in the first opening weeks... but there are other companies are out there that don't mind getting their money (and interest) a bit slower in return (Over a period of months).

Facts are, Firefly and Serenity are STILL making money with DVD sales, Other Channels renting them to show, and merchandising.

ALL of the Firefly/Serenity material has made it into the black eventually, and then everything from that point on is profit... And there ARE companies out there that will take a "Sure thing" when it pays for itself, even if it takes "Longer than usual" to pay dividends.

Why do you think F*x is holding on to the rights? It's still making them money! Slowly, true, But SURELY and steadily... and ANYTHING that makes money has someone eyeing it to make THEM money.

I invest... If *I* see a company forming to give FireFly another shot (in ANY format), I'll put money in it, Cult followings of this size are sure things in the long run (Providing the show isn't totally hosed by new actors playing old roles, or trying to take the show in a different direction..).. Hey, I wish *I* had stock in the Rocky Horror Picture show, and I've never even seen it, but it's still being shown SOMEWHERE all the time.. those dollars coming in from every showing are going into someone's pocket.

F*x admits THEY screwed up... I can only believe they are letting the show "simmer" to build support for a future return done CORRECTLY.


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I agree. We kill F*X here. They will step in and save FF. Someone there knows they F*cked up.....And, Morena's not doing anything!

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Friday, August 25, 2006 7:01 PM

BAD2VERSE


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
I agree. We kill F*X here. They will step in and save FF. Someone there knows they F*cked up.....And, Morena's not doing anything!



You got it... hit 'em in the wallet... hold out a guaranteed contract, and the actors WILL come back, none of them seems to be doing anything "Long term Spectacular"


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Friday, August 25, 2006 7:55 PM

ETHAN


I never know what the heck Joss is talking about. He sounds a lot like a guy I used to know with tourettes syndrome who often sat in the corner of the University of Chicago confectionary shop. But I ramble....

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Friday, August 25, 2006 8:13 PM

BAD2VERSE


Quote:

Originally posted by ethan:
I never know what the heck Joss is talking about. He sounds a lot like a guy I used to know with tourettes syndrome who often sat in the corner of the University of Chicago confectionary shop. But I ramble....



He's always cryptic, and witty, but as I've said before... reporters, more concerned about making a deadline than figuring out hidden meanings, usually butcher what he MEANT to say. They're not interested in figuring out what he means, they just want to meet their deadline, and that often ends up hurting our cause (As in the "We" article)...

I quit doing interviews after my words got twisted somewhat, unless they are written questions, and then I respond with short simple answers, that repeat the main point several times... to make SURE they get the main point (If nothing else).

If I could say ONE thing to Joss, it would be "When being interviewed about a topic that matters, don't be cryptic, cynical, witty, or "deep", just get the main point across clearly and concisely".

He seems to forget that they don't really care what he actually meant... they just see a blank sheet that needs words on it, which has to be laying on an editor's desk by a certain time, along with 5 other articles they have to turn in also.


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Friday, August 25, 2006 10:01 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


*stands on a table & shouts*

CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN!!

I'm Holdin' Captain! Holdin' til you get back!!!




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Friday, August 25, 2006 10:45 PM

RABBIT2


Quote:

Sci-fi gave him the usual song and dance about F*X owning the rights, but that they were showing the Series in the UK if he wanted to put advertising there...

Now, thats an interesting piece of info for those of us this side of the Atlantic.

Ps, be kind to the toads. They feel pain too.


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Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:19 AM

LEXIBLOCK


I wish the idiot would just say things plain or be quiet.

And frankly if he is going to slaughter the rest of the cast I hope he never ever gets to film another frame in the firefly universe.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:52 AM

PATIENCE


Quote:

Originally posted by LexiBlock:
I wish the idiot would just say things plain or be quiet.



I have to agree, but like many "artsy" types, I have to agree with Bad2Verse that I think Joss may lose sight of the fact that reporters and others just see a blank sheet, or simply zero in on the words they want to hear and skip the rest.

Meat and taters, Joss, meat and taters.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:05 AM

LISSA37


Quote:

Originally posted by ethan:
I never know what the heck Joss is talking about. He sounds a lot like a guy I used to know with tourettes syndrome who often sat in the corner of the University of Chicago confectionary shop. But I ramble....



Ha ha! That's funny. :)

But, let him speak a different language for all I care... he said something and it almost certainly relates to the 'verse... even if most of our 'verse-connection-making is speculation, it's hard to ignore "if they move, kill 'em". That is a quote from the 'verse (well, a play off of one). It has to be a hint, if you ask me.

And, every little bit helps; so long as we don't lose our hope...

I'm going to quote some Everwood here:

"Hope can be a dangerous thing..."
"I think hope is the one thing we shouldn’t be cautious about right now, Harold*. We should be practicing it like medicine."

*Pretend that says "Browncoats"



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Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:44 PM

DERANGEDMILK


I agree. Joss wouldn't quote from the verse in a hope giving sentence if he wasn't trying to tell us something.

I think the best part of being a browncoat and being among browncoats just might be the endless wells of hope and joy the lot of you possess. Makes me wanna go watch Out of Gas to speak the truth.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:44 PM

SHADOWLEOPARD


There's absolutely nothing in this post that hints at a Firefly return - except for what might be a reference to War Stories in "If it Moves, Kill It."

He's a writer by craft - were he actually wanting to hint at a revival or second movie, it would probably be easier to pick up than vaugely saying he "had other irons in the fire." The only thing that this little quote might mean is that he may have something non-definite in the works.

I hate to bring everyone down, but I am starting think we're reaching the point where it stops being lifesupport and turns to necrophilia. We are approaching a year out from the movie; almost all the actors, writers, directors, etc., have moved on to other projects. Unless new non-commentary content is announced by the end of the year...

...Well, then I'm starting to think we might be the only ones producing content.

"What about his face? Is his face wearing armor?"

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:00 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:

Originally posted by ShadowLeopard:
There's absolutely nothing in this post that hints at a Firefly return - except for what might be a reference to War Stories in "If it Moves, Kill It."

He's a writer by craft - were he actually wanting to hint at a revival or second movie, it would probably be easier to pick up than vaugely saying he "had other irons in the fire." The only thing that this little quote might mean is that he may have something non-definite in the works.

I hate to bring everyone down, but I am starting think we're reaching the point where it stops being lifesupport and turns to necrophilia. We are approaching a year out from the movie; almost all the actors, writers, directors, etc., have moved on to other projects. Unless new non-commentary content is announced by the end of the year...

...Well, then I'm starting to think we might be the only ones producing content.



But, necrophilia is fun! Mutter, mutter, mutter...

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:00 PM

LISSA37


ShadowLeopard,

Wow. Talk about pessimism. :(

I see what you're saying. You have some excellent points. And, you could very well be right. Perhaps there is absolutely nothing definite whatsoever in the works right now.

But, so what?

Yes, a definite promise of a a series return or a new movie would be really fantastic. Beyond fantastic. The shiniest news the Browncoat community (as a whole) could imagine.

But, isn't a slight hint of something -- anything, even a potential plan rather than a concrete one -- isn't that at least better than hearing absolutely nothing whatsoever?

A fire doesn't always need a giant log to keep it burning strong... they won't create such a huge blaze, but even a few small sticks will produce a flame.

To quote Mal (and whoever already quoted him in this thread) "It's enough."

**Edited for: I just looked up "necrophilia"... wow! Um... in this metaphoric sense (NOT the real sense)... why is that a bad thing? Someday there really won't be any new content; no show or movie continues to produce new stuff forever. Are we really going to stop loving the 'verse when that day comes? That would be truly sad.



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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:17 PM

SHADOWLEOPARD


My point was actually that we didn't hear anything at all - the post directly mentions every single other project Whedon has in the works, so why not a little mention of something explicitly Firefly?

The necrophilia thing is a quote from Tim Minear, btw.

I do think the series could return...easiest way in my mind to deal with the issue of actors, etc. being occupied would be for Fox, or whoever wants to revive the show, to run the first season in the correct order...give everyone time to get there shit together and start making new episodes while at the same time building excitement and proving the second season will be a hit.

"What about his face? Is his face wearing armor?"

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:14 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by ShadowLeopard:
My point was actually that we didn't hear anything at all - the post directly mentions every single other project Whedon has in the works, so why not a little mention of something explicitly Firefly?



Actually it's the fact that he makes specific mention of the other projects, Buffy, X-Men, Wonder Woman and Goners, that causes Firefly/Serenity to stand out by its absence. Joss already discussed his other major projects... so the cryptic part at the end alludes to what he didn't talk about.

His last paragraph contains obvious Western metaphors. Then there's the "spread the love" and "fight the power" comments. Now what show comes to mind there? Then the "If They Move. Kill 'Em.".

The "take the red pill" part is Matrixy, but alludes to those who choose not to conform to an overarching power, and instead break away and make their own lives. Hmmmm... now what show comes to mind there?

Joss threw in some wacky stuff too, but that was to flesh it all out, mix things up a little, and well, just be Joss.

The main reason why Joss couldn't be more specific is because things are still in the planning stages. Giving too many details too soon can cause problems. But he wanted to let us know something. Being cryptic and wacky is just Joss' way of doing that.

Plus he likes to then come back and lurk and see all the fans go NUTS over this stuff... heh... heh... BIG fun.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:22 PM

HOONDATHA


What I find interesting is that no one has brought up the recent cancellation of SG-1. That leaves a space open in Sci-Fi's schedule for a returned series. And since the last ten episodes don't start airing until March 2007, it gives people time to get organized. And it's far enough out that Joss would likely still be under NDA's keeping him from saying anything. Which would explain why he's hinting so obliquely... because he's contractually restrained from saying anything more specific.

Not saying any of this is actually true, but it *is* an interesting chain of events...

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:49 PM

EMBERS


Quote:

Originally posted by ShadowLeopard:
were he actually wanting to hint at a revival or second movie, it would probably be easier to pick up than vaugely saying he "had other irons in the fire." The only thing that this little quote might mean is that he may have something non-definite in the works.


but he never likes to raise too much speculation...
but you're right: it could just as easily be a Spike movie or something else....
Quote:


I hate to bring everyone down, but I am starting think we're reaching the point where it stops being lifesupport and turns to necrophilia. We are approaching a year out from the movie; almost all the actors, writers, directors, etc., have moved on to other projects.


don't forget that the Star Trek movie was about 10 years after Star Trek was cancelled...
it doesn't matter if people move on to other projects,
they can still be brought together again if the project is worth while for them...

never give up...
never surrender!


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Saturday, August 26, 2006 4:06 PM

SERENITYFOREVER


What you say makes sense.

Then again, hope is never a bad thing.

And you can have MY hope when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

:)

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 4:29 PM

ADAPA


I'm with you Hoondatha, somethings going on. Maybe it'll be a monthy, made for tv movie airing on sci-fi.

Would that get around fox's legal rights?

"mine is an evil laugh"

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 4:37 PM

MUDKICKER


I'm in agreement, here. When Joss is being dead serious, he just cuts to the chase and tells us like it is... When he's got hope looming on the horizon, he's cryptic and giddy like a little child.

Here's to hoping the giddiness is for the Browncoat cause. As far as I'm concerned, Firefly ain't dead yet... not by a long shot.

I'm ready to fly again, Cap'n. Just say the word...

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:07 PM

NOTYOLANDA


Hi Everyone,
Thank you for explaining "bump" and the other helpful information. Have a shiny weekend! Elaine

Please! Nobody died last time!

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:12 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain


I don't care if it's unrealistic, quixotic, or obsessive (this sounds familiar )to pick this statement apart for meanings that may not be in it but I choose to hope. I choose to believe unreasonably. That's what got us back on Serenity in the first place. So call me a Browncoat.

On that subject, I did see many possible refences to the 'vers in that last bit, just like so many others. Ye's I know I'm stretching it a bit far but I was even excited by the word fire being included in the same bit as all the rest.

(and yes I was watching my DVD and it's various features today)

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:50 PM

TERRI


Yeah, well, whatever it means, if I know Joss, which, actually I don't. Well, that lost steam quick. Well, I suppose I meant to say that if I know fanboys (like Joss) then he knows his precious Browncoats are watching and listening for any sign of hope. We'll take whatever we can get, and if he wants to leave cryptic messages on his blog, we will read them, dissect them, and swallow them. Whole if need be, and we'll love every minute of it.


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Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:55 PM

LISSA37


Quote:

Originally posted by Terri:
Yeah, well, whatever it means, if I know Joss, which, actually I don't. Well, that lost steam quick. Well, I suppose I meant to say that if I know fanboys (like Joss) then he knows his precious Browncoats are watching and listening for any sign of hope. We'll take whatever we can get, and if he wants to leave cryptic messages on his blog, we will read them, dissect them, and swallow them. Whole if need be, and we'll love every minute of it.




LOL I love your opening few sentences. They actually remind me a bit of your tagline (Wash's firefight/fry cook line). Very witty! Anyway, nicely said. You and everyone else who's said we'll take what we can get, analyze it, and love it has pretty much been proven right by this thread... look at us! We're still talking about it.



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Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:56 PM

USBROWNCOAT


I wish I could see a hint at FF in that post. I can't. He is most likely talking about another Marvel character or a comic venture. Could even be something new and fresh. FF? I think we are stretching. I hope I'm wrong. Dead wrong.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 7:22 PM

NANITE1018


Whoever said that commment about SG-1 is absolutely right. I love SG-1, and want to see it continue, but it almost certainly won't on Sci-Fi channel. I hope it continues somewhere else though. Anyway, that DOES leave a certain spot open. What are they going to put there? Maybe Eureka if it is successful enough but i don't think they'd do that. I sincerely hope that Firefly is revived and put on the air. It'd be the greatest thing ever, and would DEFINITELY make the cancellation of SG-1 not nearly as bad as it is as of now. Let's hope it gets another network and Sci-Fi buys the rights to make the series and makes it and puts in on on Friday nights! Then all would be right with my television world (except for the cancellation of Invasion).

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:37 AM

WINDSTRUCK


I was in lurk-mode for a while, and I find this tiny bit of sparkle, great sparkle!
I'm maybe new to the verse but at first glance I did see a few hints toward FF/Serenity.

I read and reread the post and then reread the thread.
It is a given that 'keep the faith and spread the love' is referring to the 'verse.
I am getting a +1 -1 from the post since he did not say anything about FF in his recent works, and then simply threw something aside before ending... so cryptic!

Before going back to lurk-mode.

All I can say is, that there is hope and
JOSS!!! If you're lurking here and reading this thread, stop laughin' your head off!!! You sadist! And what the heck are you talking about?!!!

And oh yeah... Thanks Joss!!!(Honestly)


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Sunday, August 27, 2006 2:56 PM

MGORMAN


If I recall, when the BDM was first being hatched as a real idea at Universal Joss was VERY cryptic with his on line posts and didn't give direct hints at all. So I would expect a similar pattern until the new irons in the fire become a lot more real and firm (as in a TV network contract or movie deal or something like that).

Mark Gorman

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:13 PM

HOONDATHA


That's the joy of Non Disclosure Agreements (NDA's). They drive fans nuts, but they're needed by the industry. On the other hand, watching someone tap-dance through an NDA minefield can sometimes be amusing (Ed Greenwood is especially good at it).

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Monday, August 28, 2006 4:35 AM

RIMGIRL


Does the reply have to be to the first message to bump the thread? or any message?

Please, please, please, it comes to something. But frankly, even if it doesn't, I'm glad I could be happy today. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take my hope from me.
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Monday, August 28, 2006 5:09 AM

HOONDATHA


Whenever a new post is made in a thread, even if all it says is "Bump," that thread is moved to the top of the list. Most lists are sorted by having the thread with the most post on top, and older ones below. So if you have a place with lots of threads, old threads tend to get burried. Bumping makes an old thread new and brings it to the top of the list so people can see it again. Different forums have different rules about how often you can bump something, and whether you can bump a thread you started.

And no need to beg, we'll tell you what you want to know. This place is easier on new people than some I've seen.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 5:15 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by RimGirl:
Does the reply have to be to the first message to bump the thread? or any message?



Any message designed to bring the thread back to the front page is a bump.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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