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Friday, October 6, 2006 5:42 AM

MAL4PREZ


Rugbug - I'm glad I'm not the only one! I'm not so big on when they start eating bugs, but a lot of the rest of the stuff they do is out of control! I can't not watch!

EDIT: Zeek, the way I answered, I had a friend with no attraction at all, then suddenly one day it was there. As for movie star types that I normally wouldn't like but I do... I just don't think of it that way.

Did the question mean a guilty pleasure kind of attraction to a celebrity? (I forget who originally pondered) I'd have to think about that...

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Friday, October 6, 2006 5:45 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Oh yeah Tristan I can see the headline now " Drunken Insurance Adjuster dances for gathering crowds"

Ok now some pondering. Have you ever felt an inexplicable tug of attraction to someone you didn't really find all that attractive??



*Mental image of Tristan dancing drunkenly...for some reason, its also to the tune of Safety Dance!?!
Oh, good. This image replacing that of Tristan on the back of Mal's motorcycle....

Pondering: I've absolutely felt that pull, and not with a celebrity. It was at a vulnerable time and place in my life, and it was not logical...but looking back on it...


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Friday, October 6, 2006 5:50 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Hello NVG!! Hi MsG! LOL!!! I can just see that 'service' taking off here!!!

Tristan... want a video of you dancin' if you do!!

OK - my inexplicable tug of attraction is... ah... Prince...

He's not that attractive to me physically - but it is definitely his voice! He does have a way of looking at the camera (and at the girl in the front row of his concert in 1992) and making you feel all weak at the knees & hot in.. er.. all the right places - but I'm sure if I met him I'd wonder how many diseases he had!!!

... sorry - I'm a bit confuzzled!


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Friday, October 6, 2006 5:59 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Confusion noted Mags. Hugs and kisses if I miss ya. Dang meeting and early payroll.

Attraction? Physical attraction is easy to find. Its just the ones that stoke my mind and heart at the same time. Those arethe ones that get me. Case in point: Ms. Incredible?


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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:01 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Oooooooh, Prince! Some of his lyrics just make me want to climb into bed with him. It's like any woman he's with is just the most important thing in the world. And he has a sexy-ass voice. Mmmmmmmmmm...


NVG, your new sig is not smooth. It makes me dizzy. Please change it?


And I'm going to bed.
night all!

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:13 AM

MAL4PREZ


Prince's Kiss - the best dance song EVER!!

He's one sexy little guy. Um, on stage and TV. I'm not so sure how I'd feel about him in person!

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:13 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Goodnight PR.

I was seein' how it looked and forgot to take it off. Tested in troll 'verse. Threw me off.

Are you sure its not my radiant personality making you dizzy?

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:14 AM

TRISTAN


S....A....F....E....T....Y....Safety! Dance!
*insert keyboard music here*



Hehehe!

I'm glad that has replaced the motorcycle image, Mavourneen!

Magda, there will be no proof that I ever danced...

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:18 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Still like to see it.


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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:19 AM

TRISTAN




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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:20 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


I actually thought NV's new signature was really cool Okay, the noise effect makes it less smooth, but it also makes it look very cool.

I really loved the pointing one, mind you, that one you had a while back.




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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:21 AM

MSG


Zeek - I mean someone who physically you don't find attractive, yet some other quality draws you to them . Sort of a weird attraction not based on appearance.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:41 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


I thought it was cool but way too mesmerising - like not being able to look away from a terrible car accident... or maybe I was just mesmerised by your magnificent presence NVG!

Oh Damn! Now I have the Safety Dance in my head... Men Without Hats wasn't it? Damn! Damn! Damn! Damn!... ... and I was about to go to bed too... I guess I'll just have to stay up for half an hour longer and see if it goes... Oh! Maybe Tristan could dance to 'Kiss' that'd be better for all concerned... except maybe Tristan

...now get that image out of your brain!!

Edit: Oh sorry Mei Mei - in my confuzzlement I for got to say goodnight! Were you actually climbing into bed with Prince or just going to sleep?:

... must be tired too I think...

Aaaargh! Just got a mental image/sound of 'Men Without Hats' singing 'Kiss'... Nooooooo! It's just so very worng!!!!!


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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:52 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by magdalena:
Aaaargh! Just got a mental image/sound of 'Men Without Hats' singing 'Kiss'... Nooooooo! It's just so very worng!!!!!





So... I have an imponderable!

We talked about what's important in a relationship, and physical compatibilty (a-hem... good sex) was up there on the list. Not tops - but there. My question: if your loved one was not able to have sex, possibly never ever again, how would that go over?

Honestly... not just the quick answer of wanting to be a supportive partner, but if you were facing years and years of no sex, would the other things be enough?

Edit: dang! Where'd the picture come from? Prince all in purple and pink... I can't decide whether to make fun or jump in bed with him!

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:57 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Zeek - I mean someone who physically you don't find attractive, yet some other quality draws you to them . Sort of a weird attraction not based on appearance.


Can't say that's ever happened to me. Usually physical attraction is the first test. It may seem shallow and all but that's just the easiest one to find out about a person usually.


On a different note, what did you think of How I Met Your Mother this week. I thought the conversation about the problems in Ted's parents marriage are really setting up the Ted & Robyn split. I just wonder how many more episodes it will take. Plus Alyson Hannigan was so hot in that episode. I like her better with red hair, but she could seduce me anyday. My apologies to Alexis...I'd try my best to fight her off for ya man.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:59 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Well, it all depends on if there's any physical intimacy at all. I think I'd be okay without sex, as long as I could still be physically close with my partner - cuddling, kissing and the like. I mean, I'd go through a hell of a lot of batteries, but I'd be okay with it.

If he couldn't bear contact for some reason then I'd find that a lot harder to deal with. Physical closeness really helps cement a relationship, for me anyway. The other stuff is very, very important, but so is that tenderness that comes from snuggling up in bed and talking (or doing something else!) all night long.




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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:09 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
We talked about what's important in a relationship, and physical compatibilty (a-hem... good sex) was up there on the list. Not tops - but there. My question: if your loved one was not able to have sex, possibly never ever again, how would that go over?


Well I know for me it would really depend on the length of the relationship before that type of thing happened. If it was during a marriage or something there's no way I'd even think of divorce over that. It'd be tough, but I'd be in it for the long haul.

Now if I had just started dating someone and they got in some terrible car accident or something I don't know what I'd do. I'd probably feel bad but I'd eventually get the guts to break it off.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:28 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


I'm attracted to people who make me laugh, so quite often they are not what others might consider physically attractive.
Quote:

mal4prez wrote:
Honestly... not just the quick answer of wanting to be a supportive partner, but if you were facing years and years of no sex, would the other things be enough?


I am pretty sure I would not get involved in a relationship with someone that I knew would never be able to have sex. Although, If I already was in an intimate relationship with someone, I would stay. I wouldn't choose no sex ever, but if it was something that was thrown at me, I would adapt. An intimate relationship is far more than just sex, but it is the sex that makes an intimate relationship so wonderful.


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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:29 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Well, I went and got ready for bed, and my shower woke me up, so I'm on again.
And DAMN jie-jie, that is a totally sexy picture. Prince is a sexy M.F. Don't care what anyone says.

No sex? *ponders* I can be satisfied without having actual sex. As I have explained before. If I could still have that, I would be perfectly happy. If I could not have that, I think the relationship would slowly slide into darkness and despair and depression and would end horribly. Being honest here. Basically what DesktopHippie said. Intimacy is... well, it's important.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:37 AM

MSG


hmmm not able to have sex...well not meaning to be indiscreet or anything, but oral gratification is certainly an option even if other body parts aren't compatible...so I think as long as you found ways to satisfy yourself and the other person ( even if it's only emotional) I think it'd be ok.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:42 AM

MAL4PREZ


Thoughful answers, guys, thanks! And I guess I'm thinking that there would still cuddling and closeness, just not actual intercourse. So all the other intimacy would be there.

I was just looking at the lists wondering which you could take away, and the other things would be enough to sustain a relationship. Hard call!


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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:47 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


*sings*
Birds do it
Bees do it
Even educated fleas do it!
Let's do it
Lets lay an egg!




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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:49 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
Hard call!



Or not!




*waits for ponderers to get it*






Sorry. Going away now.




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Friday, October 6, 2006 7:56 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
Hard call!



Or not!

*waits for ponderers to get it*

Sorry. Going away now.



Cute point to leave on!


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Friday, October 6, 2006 8:24 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Been without sex so long it really ain't to bothersome to wait. Wish I coulda done this after high school.

PS- I love the swervy sig of mine, just wish it were cleaner (Hint hint wink wink nudge nudge)

ADD: On the suggestion of MSG it was added to my Myspace account-
"I like guns and ammo, rock and roll, but be gentle ladies my virginity has recently grown back" (Added thenks to MSG and her wonderful observations)



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Friday, October 6, 2006 8:51 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Gotta run off on buisness.

BUMP!

For good measure.


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Friday, October 6, 2006 8:59 AM

MSG


HUGS NV- now you know if I weren't married I'd be happy to take care of that problem for you:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Friday, October 6, 2006 9:00 AM

TRISTAN


It appears it's time for a new thread...be right back.

New thread:
http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=24482
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Friday, October 6, 2006 10:02 AM

STINKINGROSE


Um, PR? Sorry if I've gotten my nose out of joint here, but I feel a need to speak before going further in this thread.

I'm sure your statements were not meant to be inflammatory (Forsaken joke aside), but speaking in absolutes can lead to serious disagreements.


I am 34. I have been married about 11 1/2 years. My husband is 16 years older. This is a first marriage for both of us. We were friends for a few years before we got involved. We have common interests, many of them. Mom's current boyfriend (of about 13 years) is younger than my hubby by a few.
Hubby is only 5 years younger than my mother, 7 younger than my father. (THAT marriage didn't make it 3 years, BTW.)
We have one wonderful little boy. We are not in danger of imminent divorce, we are not still on our honeymoon either.
Please tell me how this "equals totally up"?

I also resent your implication that I am some bimbo "Gold Digger". I did not marry him for his money (there ain't none, honey) or even his health insurance.

Two of the people in our wedding party are roughly the same ages as ourselves and have been married for over five years. Another set of married friends are about the same ages but she's older in this case. He found her while he was in Grad School. She most definietly does not mother him. They are all very sweet people and dear to us.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 9:17 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Is he old enough to be your father? Older than your father? As old as your father? Well, you already said no, so most of what I was talking about doesn't apply. I also said there could be exceptions. Maybe read what I said again. 'K?

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Saturday, October 7, 2006 3:39 AM

STINKINGROSE


I did read your post. More than once to make sure I hadn't misread it. Then I read it again to make sure you were actually asserting what you seemed to be asserting.

16 years *is* old enough to be a father, and all too often is both in rural and urban settings. I see it all the time. Another 2-6 years wouldn't make a difference.

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Saturday, October 7, 2006 4:11 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


You seem to feel quite strongly defensive on this topic. You are also obviously in the mood to argue the schematics. I am not. It would take trying to explain too many fiddly details and differences that, in your defensive state, I don’t think you would be open to. A full and richly detailed argument of my opinion would involve looking up things I don’t have the patience or the stomach for, and divulging personal things that are not mine to divulge. And in the end I will not change your opinion. Nor will you change mine. I think the best option at this point is to walk away, so that is what I will do.

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Saturday, October 7, 2006 7:15 AM

STINKINGROSE


I don't feel defensive dear, I feel insulted by your assertions. That's all.
I just wanted to let you know about that fact in as calm a manner possible.
I stated facts as I have observed them in my limited life experience. I am not upset. I am not trying to change your mind. I just thought perhaps you should know that stating strong absolutes about generalizations can lead to hurt feelings, intended or otherwise.

I don't really give a tinker's dam whether you approve of my marital choice or not, any more than you would value my opinion on your choice when and if you make one.
He's my husband and I'm happy with him. That's all.

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