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Male and Female Imponderables--Informer

POSTED BY: TRISTAN
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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:55 AM

TRISTAN


Yet another thread!

Last thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=24482

Post and enjoy!



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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:56 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


FIRST!!!

EDIT: Woo hoo!!! It worked!!! I'm first! *is happy*

Darn. Now I feel obliged to ponder when I was just about to leave... what should we ponder?




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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:01 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Just to continue the moon theme, I'm steeling this from sweetserendipity.



Isn't it pretty?




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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:03 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Certainly is. I'm off for lunch. If I missed ya then we'll see ya later. Be back soon.


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:03 AM

MAVOURNEEN


New Digs!



Sorry, no moons here. He's got his boxers on.


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:11 AM

MSG


ok well now I have to put up the scary dancer guy



I think we should ponder something non-gendered... Does the meaning of a name change whether or not you would give it to your children. One of my students has carefully picked names for his hypothetical future children based on their meaning and I just wondered whether (EVEN if you aren't in any relationship or ever planning to have kids , since this is largely speculative) the meaning of a name would make you not want to use it...for example my name (Lila) is a derrivative of Delilah and I really don't like that it means dark haired and dark hearted, or destroyer of men.
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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:15 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


MY EYES!!! THE GOGGLES! THEY DO NOTHING!!!




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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:39 AM

MINK


dark-haired, dark-hearted, destroyer of men
- that's awesome! Who wouldn't want to be named that?

"I AM LILA THE DARK, DESTROYER OF MEN! TREMBLE BEFORE ME!"

I gave my children rather innocuous and common names, I guess part of it was the desire to shield them from being singled out on account of their name. Couldn't even tell you what meanings they hold. I have always lived with a very rare foreign version (in the Anglo world) of a very common name. I don't have any problems with that, but I suppose I just wouldn't take the liberty of picking that for someone else.

I don't put much stock into underlying meaning, only in what the name gives away on its surface. There are certain African American names that have become stereotypical and unfortunately sound a little goofy to me (I know, it says more about me than it does about them).

Then there's this whole genre of names like "Summer", "River", "Spring", "Skye", "Leaf" that are cute and worthy in principle but I can't shake the prejudice either: hippie kids. Gotta go, to be continued.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:39 AM

MINK


dark-haired, dark-hearted, destroyer of men
- that's awesome! Who wouldn't want to be named that?

"I AM LILA THE DARK, DESTROYER OF MEN! TREMBLE BEFORE ME!"

I gave my children rather innocuous and common names, I guess part of it was the desire to shield them from being singled out on account of their name. Couldn't even tell you what meanings they hold. I have always lived with a very rare foreign version (in the Anglo world) of a very common name. I don't have any problems with that, but I suppose I just wouldn't take the liberty of picking that for someone else.

I don't put much stock into underlying meaning, only in what the name gives away on its surface. There are certain African American names that have become stereotypical and unfortunately sound a little goofy to me (I know, it says more about me than it does about them).

Then there's this whole genre of names like "Summer", "River", "Spring", "Skye", "Leaf" that are cute and worthy in principle but I can't shake the prejudice either: hippie kids. Gotta go, to be continued.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:47 AM

MAVOURNEEN


I really don't read much into the "meaning" of names. I don't look at my friend Bronwyn and think "fair breast" (because that's what it means), she's just Bronwyn.
The name Kennedy means "Ugly Head." I don't look at Ted Kennedy and...oh, never mind.

I look more at the uniqueness of a name. I wanted my son to have a masculine, different, but pronouncable name- we had a list of about 5 picked out, but when he arrived, we took one look at him and pronounced him Carson.

I'm Maura. I used to hate my name, but now I love it because its so different- and, imho, pretty. I love Lila because you don't meet many Lilas. Besides, there was the beautiful Lila Quartermaine character on General Hospital when I was a teen.



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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:49 AM

ZEEK


Nah name meanings don't matter to me. I think they're just silly personally.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:49 AM

JAMESTHEDARK


If I were to have a daughter, I'm fairly sure I'd call her Chloe. Don't know why, to be honest; I suppose I just really like the name.

My own name was chosen based on several criterion: First, it had to be two syllybles, second, it had to not be shortenable without loosing any sense, third, it had to be a name which nobody in the family had, so it wouldn't provoke the in-laws. The same with my brother, Colin.
It didn't help me, though, that another seven Ryans were born in a ten click radius on the same year.

If I wanted to A) traumitize or B) distinguish my as-yet-non-existent son with a unique name, it'd probably be on the lines of Casimir (Cas, for short). It means "Destroyer of the Peace", which is what I wholely expect he would be.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:02 AM

MSG


Mink if you pop your name or your kids names into this website it'll tell you what they mean.
As a teacher I really appreciate you naming yuou kids easily pronounced names...there is nothing worse than looking down a roll and seeing

Britkneeie ( Brittany)
Nickole ( Nicole)
Oranjellow ( orange jello- not not kidding had students named oranjellow and lemanjellow...they have since legally changed their names to Jennifer and Sarah)
or even worse
Sierra
Khandi ( candy)



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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:06 AM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN


I used to hate my name too. It's funny my full name translated means one from Ireland (or peace) who is weary and a little king or chief.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:34 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Back from runnin' errands. Thought I'd share one of my favorite posters.




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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:50 AM

MSG


OK that is a fabulous poster...where's it from?

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:01 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


It either from allposters.com or Artposters.com. Can't remember. Old age and all.


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:33 AM

MINK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:



Oranjellow ( orange jello- not not kidding had students named oranjellow and lemanjellow...they have since legally changed their names to Jennifer and Sarah)



That is priceless.

To complete my earlier thought on hippie names, I certainly wouldn't want anyone to think that I would impugn "our" little starlet, Summer, for that name is borderline not too hippie, somewhat like "Autumn" or "April" (and MSG, I apologize for making fun of your name, but you kinda deserved it after posting that dancer pic).

A few weeks ago I met a little girl named "Petal". Now that's all well and good, but now imagine a 35 year old professional woman named "Petal". Aren't there enough stereotypes that women need to contend with? It's one step short of "Lulu". Or "Daisy".

What I also find amusing are those hopelessly dated names: Ethel, Gladys, Mildred, Gertrude, etc. Love 'em, but it would sure take cojones to name your kid that.


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:33 AM

MINK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:



Oranjellow ( orange jello- not not kidding had students named oranjellow and lemanjellow...they have since legally changed their names to Jennifer and Sarah)



That is priceless.

To complete my earlier thought on hippie names, I certainly wouldn't want anyone to think that I would impugn "our" little starlet, Summer, for that name is borderline not too hippie, somewhat like "Autumn" or "April" (and MSG, I apologize for making fun of your name, but you kinda deserved it after posting that dancer pic).

A few weeks ago I met a little girl named "Petal". Now that's all well and good, but now imagine a 35 year old professional woman named "Petal". Aren't there enough stereotypes that women need to contend with? It's one step short of "Lulu". Or "Daisy".

What I also find amusing are those hopelessly dated names: Ethel, Gladys, Mildred, Gertrude, etc. Love 'em, but it would sure take cojones to name your kid that.


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:59 AM

RMMC


Funny poster, NVGR. Thanks for posting it.

Names, names, names.

Meanings and picking names

Personally, I actually like to find out what they mean, and actively helped a friend try to pick a name for her firstborn. Do I put stock in those meanings...no, not really, although mine means 'soft hair' and 'youthful' and well, the women in my family age very well (mom's in her sixites and only has some crow's feet and is still getting acne from skin oil) and let's see *plays with hair* yeah it's kinda soft. YMMV.

BUT...in my father's family there's a whole bunch of naming traditions (some of which have to do with what date in the year a boy in the family is born) which results in a lot the same names over and over and over.

This gets confusing at times. My three uncles share names with three of my male cousins, so using the 'Uncle' title is very necessary (and quite confusing for the older generation where that doesn't apply at all), and one of my cousin's children is named after his great-grandfather, and is also my father's name, however my father went by his middle name his entire life to avoid confusion with his father.

Still with me?

Fortunately only a few of the girls share names, and it's usually their being named after their granmothers.

When my older siblings were born, it was expected by both sides of the family that they would be named for someone else in the (respective) family. So, for my two older siblings, their first names were our maternal grandparent's and their middle ones our paternal ones.

When I came along, my folks didn't know what to do...they were out of parents! This isn't the absolute truth, but it ain't far either. My mother couldn't make up her mind and finally drew a name out of the hat (so to speak) of the ones she liked ... at the hospital!

My sister, my brother and one of my aunts blew off the while naming tradition thing, and I think things are more interesting (and less confusing) for it.

So where do I stand? Were I to have a kid at this late date, I'd go with something I like the sound of and not worry so much about what it means. (I like Liam and Moira for names. )



Spelling, Etc.

It counts! I hate the trend of creative name spelling, especially for names that were used by both genders with a slight spelling variation to let folks know their gender. (Marion/Marian Francis/Frances Terry/Terri)

Children should never be named for the month in which they were born. You've had nine months to think about it, try harder.

Children's names should never be for household items or 'titles' such as "President" or "Major." (yes, I've seen all these)

Do not name your children to complete a pun on their sir names. Marrying into a pun is your own choice; don't punish your children with your bad sense of humor. Actually any name you consider, try it out saying it as a full name...in front of someone who is not your spouse. If they giggle or act like they swallowed a dustgiraffe, do not use that name. (I have examples, but I can't use them due to HIPAA.)

Remember...your kids have to live with those names. Day in and day out. In public. In classrooms. On playgrounds.

Think before you name.







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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:10 PM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by mink:
A few weeks ago I met a little girl named "Petal". Now that's all well and good, but now imagine a 35 year old professional woman named "Petal". Aren't there enough stereotypes that women need to contend with?



Try this one on:

My friend's 4 1/2 year old has a classmate named "Princess." No joke. That's her name. Eek. I've also met a "Precious" or two in my day.

My name is a derivation of Theresa and means warrior woman (or something like that). Yeah, whatever.

There are some names I wouldn't consider because of meaning, but more so I wouldn't consider because I knew someone by that name and I didn't like them.

Zeek: I LOVE the name Chloe.

Jamesthedark: never got to round posting on the pictures thread, but I'm surprised you're single with a picture like that.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:15 PM

MSG


I could not agree more...I look at some of these celebrities and think..oh that's cute while they're still babies, but excuse me Supreme Court Justice Apple???? Sounds moronic huh??
That was actually a suggestion of my friend. That before you name your child you put the title Supreme Court Justice in front of it and if it still sounds good, then go for it.
I feel especially bad for the Robert Rodriguez kids... Rocket, Rebel, and Racer... I mean hello you really want your kid to walk into a board room and say Hi I'm Rocket and expect people to take him seriously?! I think a lot of parents forget ( in some way) that these kids will grow up and while a cute name is fun when they are babies, it's sadistic when they are in junior high and the poor thing is listening to a sub either mangle or laugh over their name.

Ok off to cook dinner and such...see you all tomorrow

Magda and PR- I know you'll see this later so HUGS and have a lovely morning(night)

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:23 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Those are awsome names MSG.

Goodnight. Have a great dinner.


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:38 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Zeek: I LOVE the name Chloe.


Good to know. I don't really care for it though. Just makes me think of the nosey annoying girl from smallville. I'd much more go for Courtney over Chloe. Aubry is pretty too. Especially since I met a really cute Aubry a while back.

I think you wanted to tell Jamesthedark that you liked Chloe btw.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:42 PM

JAMESTHEDARK


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Zeek: I LOVE the name Chloe.



Thanks, but you've crossed your wires while admiring my glaring hotness: I was the one who's getting a daughter named Chloe.

EDIT: Darn it, Zeek, you beat me to the punch!

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:27 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Out soon Ponderer's so if I missed ya I'll catch y'all tomorrow. Same Pondering time, Same Pondering place.


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:26 PM

BROWNCOATJIM


Alice is one of my favs.......I'm sorry, but Alice will always go with Cooper to me.

What is tough is th people with famous names. I am Jim Carey, but in 1968, i was named for my father, nad really who th hell was Jim Carrey, right? Plus, Carey is a ver y common irish name, and there are a million of us running about Boston, let me tell you.

However, I went to college with a Jim Morisson, and his parents had to know exactly what they were doing to him, which is unforgivable.

I had a customer once (and this guy had no sense of humor whatsoever, just an absolute redwood up his ass)with the unfortunate name of David Berkowitz......damn, but I wanted to ask him if he had a dog.




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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:37 PM

MINK


To me Courtney is a girl with her nose two miles in the air. "I'm so pretty and so much more important than you."

"Chloe", well, we've got a dairy business around these parts with an advertising mascot named Chloe. She's a cow. That kind of sums it up for me.

Aubry is good. Like Jack Aubrey of the Royal Navy. Any of you ever read those books? Great character, well played by Russell Crowe in Master and Commander, although he got fairly genericized in the film treatment and we didn't get to see his many, many flaws and essential dorkiness when not actually commanding a ship.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:37 PM

MINK


To me Courtney is a girl with her nose two miles in the air. "I'm so pretty and so much more important than you."

"Chloe", well, we've got a dairy business around these parts with an advertising mascot named Chloe. She's a cow. That kind of sums it up for me.

Aubry is good. Like Jack Aubrey of the Royal Navy. Any of you ever read those books? Great character, well played by Russell Crowe in Master and Commander, although he got fairly genericized in the film treatment and we didn't get to see his many, many flaws and essential dorkiness when not actually commanding a ship.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:49 PM

MINK


For me "Alice" will always go with "in Wonderland". [sings: "In a world of my own..."]

I like it though.

I highly recommend
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/babynames/

Here you can get lists of names by popularity going all the way back to 1880. It's fascinating. In the top ten, the male names don't change a whole lot. The females a bit more, though "Mary" is #1 until replaced by "Linda" in the sixties as I recall.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:49 PM

MINK


For me "Alice" will always go with "in Wonderland". [sings: "In a world of my own..."]

I like it though.

I highly recommend
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/babynames/

Here you can get lists of names by popularity going all the way back to 1880. It's fascinating. In the top ten, the male names don't change a whole lot. The females a bit more, though "Mary" is #1 until replaced by "Linda" in the sixties as I recall.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:29 PM

RMMC


Quote:

Originally posted by browncoatjim:
Alice is one of my favs.......I'm sorry, but Alice will always go with Cooper to me.



Not for me (although I did spend my formative years listening to him) as I have an Aunt Alice.



Quote:

Originally posted by browncoatjim:
What is tough is th people with famous names. I am Jim Carey, but in 1968, i was named for my father, nad really who th hell was Jim Carrey, right? Plus, Carey is a ver y common irish name, and there are a million of us running about Boston, let me tell you.



My sympathies to you, as I know that's gotta be the pits. Then there's the whole phone call thing that goes with that. (My mom's cousin has the same name as a formerly popular C/W singer back in the fifties. He got LOTS of calls from folks thinking he was the singer and eventually had to get an unlisted number.)

Quote:

Originally posted by browncoatjim:
However, I went to college with a Jim Morisson, and his parents had to know exactly what they were doing to him, which is unforgivable.



You wouldn't believe the number of folks who named their kids "Quentin," "Barnabas," and "Angelique" in the late 60's due to the popularity of 'Dark Shadows.' What were these folks thinking?! or should the question be, what were they smoking?


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:54 PM

COPILOT


Okay so here it goes. I've loved the words Chaos and Inertia as names for children. However my freaking parents named me Dentalia (latin for tooth) and I've loved it since day one. Plus on the positive side if you've ever met a Dentalia you've met me because I'm the only one I've ever known of. Maybe because people actually research names for their children. I can't pronounch my name in my tribal language of Weyott or I might change it legally.

People making up spellings for childrens names also bothers me Jennifer is Jennifer not Jequifear.....yeah I know not really close. Oh well I'm not doing so good right now.

I'm moving back to my home town of Redding in two weeks because I made a glaring mistake. Also I'm not meeting the emotional needs of my friend and roomate..........I don't know why I should but oh well. Eh...some people juggle geese?



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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:57 PM

NICODEMUS


I notice that nobody's made much mention of the names some *cough* celebrities give to their kids.

I sate as my prime example, the daughter of (now-deceased) INXS lead singer Michael Hutchence: Heavenly Hirani Tiger Lily (not sure if she uses Hutchence or Yates as her surname, but either way, that's one mouthful and a half of a name).

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:17 PM

MAGDALENA

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Quote:

Originally posted by msg:

Magda and PR- I know you'll see this later so HUGS and have a lovely morning(night)



Thank you so much MsG!! I do feel like I miss something not being on line at the same time as you are all posting... but it is also so very shiny to have real friends all over the world! (& you're welcome for the photos comment - thank you for that too!!)

Names... I have always, always wanted Laura for a girl & Nicholas for a boy - might have something to do with my deep love of Laura Ingalls Wilder's 'Little House' series of books from my childhood... Not sure why Nicholas, but I do love 'Nicholas Nickley' by Charles Dickens... and despite a couple of revolting Nicholas's in my college days I still love it - Nicholas Brendon did live up to the nobility of it too... & then there was the last Tsar of all Russia...

But having said that I have never thought for a moment that I could, should or would have child by myself so it would be a case of throw them into the mix and work it out... if I ever get to that point of course!

I am actually very fond of Kaylee at the moment, funny that! My name, Meredith, is Welsh in it's origin... I have always loved it! Ironically though it means 'child of the ocean' & I have quite a fear of water!! My middle name is for my Scottish grandmother Annie but in my case it's Anne. My sisters also have individual names with a family middle name, Trudi Jean (Jean being my Auntie's name) & Leigh Helena, (Helena - prounounced Hel-ay-nah - is my mother's middle name, my grandmothers first name and now Leigh's daughter's middle name too & is German in it's origin as my maternal G-G-Grandparents are German.) They are such pretty names.

There have been lots of stories of politics over first names in my Dad's family... There was a lot of dissatisfaction that he was called David when there was an uncle that there had been a 'falling out' with named David... but when I did the family history research his GGGG-grandfather was called David so I think that's even more appropriate than my gradparents realised!

Good ponderance MsG!!

Hey Tristan - are you feeling any better?

EDIT: Hi Nico - I was wondering if you'd had to go and fight bush fires!! How is this weather 'tis going to be a scary year... we're thinking of you!!

You reminded me of a couple of names that I have come accross here in Australia too... I just heard yesterday of a girl named Dakota (lives in Melbourne) who's little sister is called Minnesota!! Their parents have never even been to the US, but they named them after states over there...? Someone who's child is in Dakota's class saw the little sister one day, did the name association thing and said 'Oh hello Arizona!' or something like that! LOL!! the poor child - the parents should be shot!




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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:40 PM

NICODEMUS


At the moment it's quiet in our area, so we're waiting to be called up to Port Lincoln, but the day's far from over, so anything could happen.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:18 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Will be thinking of you Nico - keeping all the firefighters in my prayers!

I am concerned about my beautiful Wilson's Prom' NP... but at least no houses or properties are at risk... there's a blaze there right now!

For those of you who have never heard of 'the Prom' it is the southernmost point of mainland Australia and is my slice of heaven on Earth...

I kind of grew up going there each summer with my family - bush walking, bike-riding, photography, all things I love and which were nurtured there every year! ...I'll have to see if I can find photos...


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:19 PM

STINKINGROSE


Named my boy because I liked it and coincidentally after his paternal grandfather.
I looked through several baby name books. Absolute rubbish for the most part.
"As lovely as the flower" was given for the meaning of mine in one of them. WTF? Sometimes a name has no meaning, or it has been lost.
Okay, I was named after a plant. I can deal with that. I like my name.
I was one of the only ones back in the early 70s. Now they're blooming everywhere. It's almost as bad as being a Jennifer used to be.
We made a decision to not use the naming traditions in my family. His didn't have one. He did have an aunt named Olive. She fell in love and actually married a man named Pitts. Bless her, I don't think I could have gone through with it.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:29 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Oh No!! Now that would be an instance where I wouldn't change my name!! Ido know a truly lovely lady who's first name is Gaye and she married a man who's surname was Gay... so she is Gaye Gay!! Honestly!! I also met a guy who's surname was Meredith once... thank goodness I wasn't remotely attracted to him!


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:33 PM

STINKINGROSE


I merely married into an alliterative surname. It could have been worse. It's still a little too cute for me to be completely happy with it. I thought about asking him to change his name, but it's easier to spell than mine was.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:54 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Apparently sleep is not the cure for a fuzzy brain. Nor is having all your stress hit a very large fan
Site went down around, I dunno, nine this morning, so I didn't get a chance to say good night, but I wasn't ignoring anyone!
I need to start the new Forsaken thread, come to think. Was trying to do that when the boat crashed.
I think I might be fighting off that cold. I'm taking ridiculous amounts of vitamin C and have so far not been taken over completely. My nose is stuffy on and off and someimes my throat is hurting. Maybe that's part of why my energy has been so low.
Names... Yeah, I think name meaning is very important. I like the meaning of my first two names. I'm not sure about the last name, as I haven't been able to find a source that knows exactly what it means. Closest I've come is "armored" which I'm not sure is a good thing. As I've said, my mom's last name has a pretty meaning. But there are quite a few names with horrid meanings that I would not really want to inflict on a child. 'Mary' is a good example. I can't remember exactly, but I think it means 'despair' or something equally unhappy. Also, there are a few feminine names that mean 'man'. What's up with that?
Anyway, I love my name. Gave me some grief in school, but kids will tease anyone if they can find an angle, and they almost always do. There are some very cool, pretty, and unusual names that have some wonderful meanings. I have a whole list of them for characters in stories and such.
But I think a name can say a lot about you. Rose has a few meanings and they all fit me. There's the flower. That fits me. I'm a delicate, sweet little flower with thorns. There's the symbolism, which is mostly spiritual. Both Buddhism and Goddess worship have strong ties to the rose. Well, now, that fits me pretty well too.
It is also, of course, important to have the name sound good and flow well. I've been told a story from the long-long ago of a girl whose last name was Cianci, and her parents named her Nancy Ann. Bad.
I have a name stuck in my head for a daughter. Creya. I made it up, basically. I think it's very pretty but I'm not sure how it would go over.
Okay, rambling! Stopping now.
*edit* Good morning darling jie-jie! Sorry to hear your special place has a fire right now. Here's hoping some Big Damn Heroes put it out soon.

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We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow in sunlight. - Gautama Siddharta

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:25 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Good morning Mei Mei! I am so worried about your fuzzy head - maybe it runs in the family? Seriously though Olive Leaf Extract!!!

The formula which I find works best for me is called 'Oliviral' and is made by Nutra-Life, a New Zealand based company - look at their website if you like:

http://health.nutralife.com.au/ViewProduct.aspx?id=850
I really don't know if they export to the US or UK - but I swear by them, I usually take 2 a day to keep my immune system healthy - though I have gone for weeks without taking it lately and have not had any problems at all... When I feel something coming on I take 6 a day... I have not been sick for the last 2 years despite the fact that ever since I had Glandular Fever (mononeucleosis ?)at the age of 17, & I have been a walking Virus Incubator every year since from the first sign of Autumn to the last hint of Winter...

There might be enough information for you to find something else along the same lines that is locally available!

Take care Mei Mei... & MsG... and Little Albatross... and all my FFfamily! Got to get going, but I'll be back later... when you are all asleep probably...


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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:31 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I won't be asleep!
I will look into the olive leaf extract. Haven't had time to go to the nearest natural foods place the last few days, what with work and sleeping so much. I really need to pick up a few things.
Well, I'll see you later!

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:43 PM

NICODEMUS


Ugh, been a nasty day so far. Been all around the countryside chasing smoke sightings and the random idiots who think they can ignore the laws regarding burn-offs.

Still, when the idiot refused to unlock the gate and let us in to put out the fire, we didn't bother being subtle, we simply let one of the water-bombing helicopters dump a load on it.

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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:14 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Hi Nico... sorry to hear that the idiots are alive and doing what they do best in Sth Australia!

Hello Mei Mei... I'm back!

We still pondering names?


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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:10 AM

NICODEMUS


Yeppers, we're still pondering the names we're given and/or choose for ourselves.

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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:52 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Yeah - that's a good point Nico! Here's a ponderance to add to that first ponderable...

What is the story behind your FFF.net name...? If there isn't one... make up a short story or something...

I discovered the 'verse at the end of May this year, and since Easter I'd been doing my own research into Mary Magdalene and her role in the establishment of the early church. I really feel that women have been 'disposessed' in the Christian tradition and I wanted to understand how it might have been shaped if the male disciples of Christ had actually had the guts to go against the standards of the day and followed a woman... maybe they did and it was the later leaders who rewrote history in their own idea of what it should be... Anyway - my first name was Magdalene... but after the crash of June '06 I had to re-register and decided to make it Magdalena as it was close to the original... Oh and I really, really hope i get to read a complete copy of MM's gospel one day... the Gnostic gospels are fascinating reading whether you are Christian or not...

Now look where I am - forsaken and imponderable all at once!!

There - now it's someone elses turn...


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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:57 AM

NICODEMUS


As I mentioned in my introductory thread (now lost to the archives demon), my name is taken from a Tom Clancy novel. in Clear And Present Danger, Nicodemus is the alligator that they threaten the drug runners with being fed to. I liked the sound of the name and have used it online and in my gaming where/when-ever possible since then.

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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:59 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Hi again jie-jie! I've been in Haven.
As to my online name, the phoenix has always been a really powerful symbol to me. As a fire witch, it speaks to me. It's also one of my totems, which is unusual. So, yeah, that's it really.

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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:28 AM

COPILOT


Choose Copilot because I'm a lot like the less crazy version of River at the end of the BDM. Short but it's 5:30am here. Yes I'm doing that insomnia thing again.


An I carried such a torch

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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:36 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Morning, Everyone.

*I think I caught Tristan's illness. I feels like eels!

An overcast, gray morning, and I feel like go-suh.
Did you get snow yesterday PR? Relatives outside of Denver said they got a few inches.


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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:59 AM

KELKHIL


Morning all! How are we this fine morning. Getting ready to snow here I guess.NO!!!!!!!!!!!!


I will catch up with the thread later. Just wanted to drop in and say hi to all!

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:16 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, all.

Copilot, it is very good to see you back with us! I have missed you! MySpace mail and PM's seem to either never get to you or something else goes wrong with them...whatcha been doing?

Mavourneen, sorry about that. I tried to keep the thread bug-free...bad news is that it'll last about two days. I thought I was alright until about 3:30 this morning and it hit again. So, I've been awake since then. Ick.

Magda, I have also perused the MM gospel. Quite interesting stuff!

KelKhil! I'll try to stay out of the pub today. Apparently I can pass on the crud through casual contact online.

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Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:43 AM

SPACEANJL


Names - never been a fan of those 'we really wanted a boy' names - Nigella, Henrietta et al. Why not call the kid 'Rasputina' or something, and have done with it? (Though, of course, Jayne is a good name for a boy )

I nearly got called Cordelia (!) My actual name means 'consecrated to God' which is hysterical. I think the god in question is probably Cthulu...

On-line name - comes from Smallville fic I used to write. The intials of one Alexander Joseph Luthor. (I like bad boys.) I just added 'Space' 'cos, well...

The name game is fun, though. I'm with Joss and JKR on the whole thing - once the right name pops into your head, you have the character with it.




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