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MST3K's Mike Nelson mocks us!! :)

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 3:23 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


In browsing for a new Mystery Science Theatre 3000 set, I have found Michael J. Nelson's site, in which he mocks us, the Firefly fan, then he links HERE! It might be really, really old. I couldn't find a date, but anyway... It's amusing. :)

http://www.michaeljnelson.com/home/other.aspx
(It's about halfway down the page, last picture in the "Alarming Hat News!" story.)

Oh, Mike. Tsk, tsk. He's probably a member of fff.net. :)

"Can't take the sky..."

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 4:05 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Hmm... So I take it there are no MST3K fans nearby tonight??


"Can't take the sky..."

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 4:36 PM

TRAVELER


Don't feel to bad IHeartFirefly:

I posted something about Flash Gordon and watched it slowly sink to bottom of the pool. Of course that was is in "The Other Science Fiction Directory" so it took forever.

But it is nice that there are people out there spreading the word about Firefly. And good of you to inform us.


Traveler

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 4:52 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Thanks, Traveler.
I just assumed that most people know and love MST3K, so I was surprised no one jumped on the thread immediately. :)



"Can't take the sky..."

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:05 PM

TRAVELER


Some nights are slower than others. I was just reminded by my friend that "Lost" is on tonight. So I told him I would call back later.


Traveler

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:08 PM

RMMC


I just got home.

Considering the section subject, I was expecting to see a Jayne hat.

Yes, he mocks us, but then MST mocked everthing, so I just giggle and move on.

Thanks for the link!

*******
RMMC

When we're down, don't frown. Come join the camp-out at serenitymovie.org.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:16 PM

TERRI


Yeah, Mike's the man. He's hilariously funny so I don't mind. And anyway, it's easy to spend an inordinate amount of time of this message board. <-----case in point. So, yeah, always was a Mstie, I should totally have put that in my sig. But after a while, it gets so many it would take ten years to watch the sig all the way through. Good looking, though. Hey, also, I posted on here a link for a msting of Serenity, which was hilarious. So, look for it on here, it's hilarious.


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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:17 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Quote:

Originally posted by RMMC:
Yes, he mocks us, but then MST mocked everthing, so I just giggle and move on.



Definitely. It's a great honor to be mocked by Mike.

And it cracked me up/made me feel like a true sci-fi geek when the link led me to a window I already had open. :)

"Can't take the sky..."

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:21 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Quote:

Originally posted by Terri:
Hey, also, I posted on here a link for a msting of Serenity, which was hilarious. So, look for it on here, it's hilarious.



Isn't it written like a script? I started on it and it was pretty funny, but I kept wishing it was in movie form.
Was it actually written by an MST3K writer or was it just written in their style of mocking?



"Can't take the sky..."

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:29 PM

TERRI


Oh, no, just by a fan. It still's hilarious, though, and feels like it was written by the writers. And a Browncoat as well, because it felt really real.

http://eric261.tripod.com/mst3kserenity/mst3kserenity.html



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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:35 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Thanks for the link. I'll give it a shot. :)

"Can't take the sky..."

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:39 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by IHeartFirefly:
Hmm... So I take it there are no MST3K fans nearby tonight??


"Can't take the sky..."



I'm a fan, but I guess I'm more old school. Once Joel left, I kinda lost interest.

Kinda like how I feel about 007. It's Sean Connary, or no one.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 5:52 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


I agree. I absolutely loved Joel. His sad, pathetic, "I don't want to be here" look is classic.

For years, I actually refused to watch any episodes that weren't Joel. But then I bought one of the box sets that had "Boggy Creek II: And the Legend Continues" with Mike and I loved it.

I guess when I found out Mike was a writer for the show all along, I could accept him more easily. I prefer Joel, but the concept and writing of the show is so great, even slightly worse MST3K is better than most tv or movies.



"Can't take the sky..."

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:49 PM

EVILBUNGLE


I prefer Mike, Could be that he was the one I saw first. I think Mike had some better movies!

Anyone else get engrossed in the movies while you are watching?

thanks for the link, MST taking the mick is indeed an honour, it validates the group!

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 1:46 AM

CANTER


So........ What is MST?

For us non-Americans.

Burn the land and boil the sea...

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 2:17 AM

SIMONWHO


It's a sci-fi series that had a host and two robot sidekicks watching some crappy movies and making acerbic comments on them. A cult hit that ran for 10 series, you can find copies of it on DVD if you import or look online for copies of it (the show used to conclude with "Keep Sharing The Tapes", a reference to those who shared their VHS copies of the show with others).

I can think of no higher honour than to be insulted by Mike. If you take it personal, repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax".

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 2:48 AM

PUMAMANREDUX


Quote:

Originally posted by Canter:
So........ What is MST?

For us non-Americans.

Burn the land and boil the sea...



MST = Mystery Science Theater 3000

http://mst3k.com/

episodes have been uploaded at various sources youtube, google video .....


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 3:34 AM

SISTER


Wow...that was Funny!!! great way to start a Thursday morning!

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 3:42 AM

CANTER


Thanks for the info. I read the thing on Serenity (thanks to the link Terri gave above)

It's really, really funny. And some of it is very close to home.



Burn the land and boil the sea...

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 3:50 AM

STEAMER


Well, at least the mockery was good-natured instead of vaguely insulting. Man, I miss MST3K.



Mal and Zoe catch
Wash off guard
"Take me, sir
Take me hard!"
FIREFLY

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 4:16 AM

PUMAMANREDUX


For the record folks hve done plenty of Mstings (ie mocking) of Fanfiction, scripts, public domain books ... just like in that link posted by Terri ... some examples of pages with links to mstings are:

http://members.tripod.com/~Rover_Wow/mbt3k.htm

http://svamcentral.org/ewic/

http://www.keithpalmer.ca/msting-mine/

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2628/elmer.htm

(more later if folks ask)

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 4:37 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Don't really remember if we covered any different ground, or if we were even mildly funny in our posts, but there's an archived thread about MST3K here:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=23444



"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 5:05 AM

MSG


Hey....well now I want Crow to bitch slap Mike...Oh well

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Friday, November 3, 2006 4:38 PM

PUMAMANREDUX


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Don't really remember if we covered any different ground, or if we were even mildly funny in our posts, but there's an archived thread about MST3K here:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=23444


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"



Got the earlier thread reguarding MST3K restarted .. for no real reason


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Friday, November 3, 2006 8:57 PM

MARINA


So...

favorite episode? anyone own the individual episode DVDs they used to sell?

I really love the one with Ator, warrior prince, and the girl who ran around with a hubcap on her chest. Then later in the episode he runs into the woods, comes out five minutes later and he has caught some deer, skinned and tanned their hides, cut some trees, woven rope, and made an AIR GLIDER out of which he dropped his homemade bombs (also construced in the woods).

I know, now you back away slowly and say "all right, creepy girl..."

Don't make faces.

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Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:13 AM

PUMAMANREDUX


Not to mention someone went four wheeling and then our hero [ and I use that term loosely ] ...went hang gliding over .... a modern city!!!!!

And let us not forget the extra in his ray bans and ... and ....

Favorite episode .. I like Puma Man [ o/ " ... he flies like a moron ..." o/ ] and who can forget [to the theme of The Greatest American Hero theme] o/ " .. believe it or not, this movies still on .." o/.

I like alot of MST3K eps as well for so many reasons ....


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Sunday, November 5, 2006 11:07 AM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Marina,
That's great. Just reading the recap cracks me up. Isn't that from Cave Dwellers?

I'd have to say my favorite ep is "Pod People." There are just so many classic moments- from Trumpie perusing the wing-ed potatoes, to the idiot pop band getting lost in the woods to the Renaissance festival deer hunters. It's like 3 horrible movies in one.

"Can't take the sky..."

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 12:27 PM

SIMONWHO


Operation Kid Brother was great too, particularly as the movie was of a cult interest to me but I couldn't stomach just watching it of itself.

Plus it had a classic sketch with Joel and the bots.

"I know."

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 12:53 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Wikipedia says "Operation Kid Brother" is a spoof of James Bond. It's odd that MST3K would mock a spoof. I don't know if I have ever seen that done before. And it's funny then, I take it?

"Can't take the sky..."

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Monday, November 6, 2006 6:48 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


I am simply amazed (!) by how many eps there were to that show. I haven't even caught the tip of the iceberg.

Loved Pumaman. The Screaming Skull was good, too. And let's not forget JOE DON BAKER in MITCHELL!


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Monday, November 6, 2006 8:14 AM

SIMONWHO


Quote:

Originally posted by IHeartFirefly:
Wikipedia says "Operation Kid Brother" is a spoof of James Bond. It's odd that MST3K would mock a spoof. I don't know if I have ever seen that done before. And it's funny then, I take it?

"Can't take the sky..."



Heh. There's plenty of Bond spoofs but Operation Kid Brother is more of a Bond movie without Bond - no more of a spoof than the real films are. You're meant to take it seriously, though thankfully Joel and the Bots don't.

And the mocking of it is funny, the film itself... no. Nor is it exciting. Nor action packed. Unless you've a particular fetish for seeing the original Moneypenny with a machine-gun or wondered what Sean Connery's younger, less talented brother was like as an actor, it's not worth your time without the MST3K stuff.

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Monday, November 6, 2006 8:56 AM

AMYLISAI


Wow, I just about DIED laughing when I read the article on "Iron Chef". The captions on the articles' pictures were hilarious as well.

Banish the thought of doing MST on Firefly! I'll never let it happen.

On anything else, fair game :)

Thanks for the funnies!
Amy

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Monday, November 6, 2006 2:44 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
Quote:

Originally posted by IHeartFirefly:
Wikipedia says "Operation Kid Brother" is a spoof of James Bond. It's odd that MST3K would mock a spoof. I don't know if I have ever seen that done before. And it's funny then, I take it?

"Can't take the sky..."



Heh. There's plenty of Bond spoofs but Operation Kid Brother is more of a Bond movie without Bond - no more of a spoof than the real films are. You're meant to take it seriously, though thankfully Joel and the Bots don't.

And the mocking of it is funny, the film itself... no. Nor is it exciting. Nor action packed. Unless you've a particular fetish for seeing the original Moneypenny with a machine-gun or wondered what Sean Connery's younger, less talented brother was like as an actor, it's not worth your time without the MST3K stuff.



That sounds awesome. Is it seriously Sean Connery's brother??
Geez, I have so many MST3K eps to find and watch now, I don't know where to start. :)

"Can't take the sky..."

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Monday, November 6, 2006 2:54 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Quote:

Originally posted by amylisai:
Wow, I just about DIED laughing when I read the article on "Iron Chef". The captions on the articles' pictures were hilarious as well.



Yeah, Mike looks to be a pretty talented comedy writer. I just ordered a couple of his movie books for really cheap on Amazon so I'm hoping they're as funny.

Quote:

Banish the thought of doing MST on Firefly! I'll never let it happen.

On anything else, fair game :)



I know, a MSTing of Firefly would probably be pretty hard to handle. -Unless they found a way to do it while still showing that they love the show, deep in their souls. :)
Those recaps on televisionwithoutpity.com actually really make me mad. I try to read them, but it really seems like the writer doesn't "get" the show at all. The things he criticizes aren't even funny. Now Alias, for example, has an incredible recapper at TWOp, in that she makes fun of it to death, but you can still see she cares about the characters. If they could do that with Firefly, it might be hysterical...maybe... :)

Oh, and you are welcome- for the link. :)


"Can't take the sky..."

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Monday, November 6, 2006 3:01 PM

AMYLISAI


I'll now thank you again--my mom both called and emailed me to thank me for practically putting her in the hospital she laughed so hard at that link (which I forwarded to her). Naturally I turned her into a Browncoat years ago...

Thanks again!

For people who obviously still love the show but are happy to laugh at it anyway, I recall someone doing a photo montage of muppets as Firefly that was amazing, someone else doing "Firefly in 1000 words" or something to that effect, and there was one other... hm... let me see if I can dig it up...

ok, here's the muppet one, and I'm out of time on the computer so good luck finding the other funny Firefly parodies...
http://www.deviantart.com/view/28564479/

Cheers, Amy

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Monday, November 6, 2006 4:29 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


I'm glad to spread the fun!
Yeah, I've seen the Muppet show. It's great, but thanks for the link anyway. I handn't seen it in a while.

And, hey, nice move in converting the Mom to Firefly. Mine still isn't sure about the whole space-hooker deal. She always seems to join the FF viewing party at the exact wrong time- like when Inara and that ambassador are making out in that ridiculous, unnecesary side-story. lol. :)

"Can't take the sky..."

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Monday, November 6, 2006 5:30 PM

TERRI


Quote:

Originally posted by IHeartFirefly:
Marina,
That's great. Just reading the recap cracks me up. Isn't that from Cave Dwellers?

I'd have to say my favorite ep is "Pod People." There are just so many classic moments- from Trumpie perusing the wing-ed potatoes, to the idiot pop band getting lost in the woods to the Renaissance festival deer hunters. It's like 3 horrible movies in one.

"Can't take the sky..."



HUZZAH!!
Penny in a poor boy. Idiot Control, beans on pie, burning rubber tires!

I could go on, but I won't. Seriously, I LOVE Pod people, it's one of my faves. And a couple years back, I got a wonderful box set which was four eps. And it had my two fave eps of all time, Boggy Creek II and the Touch of Satan. Classic stuff. So, yeah, no you'd think that a Msting of Serenity would be hard to take, but I urge you to read the fan msting of it that I've posted earlier. It's fun, it's funny and it's downright spot on. It doesn't really make fun of any of our BDM's in a way that irreversable and it ends on a note that I think any Browncoat can enjoy. And did I mention it's hilarious. Especially if you've watched the movie enough times to practically play it back in your head and fast forward to the parts that it deals with. Seriously, I know that you don't want anybody making fun of the 'verse, but you can tell this was done by a fan, and I doubt that any actual msting (not that there will ever be one) will be good natured. I want to hope that in like ten years, some other group of young go getters will take the mantle that Joel, Mike, Crow, Tom, Dr. Forrester, TV's Frank, et. al. left behind, and start Msting the shows that are current today, but cheesy. They could make a fortune off of Scifi Original pictures alone! Check out this site for cheap, unlisenced MST3K eps, from the Joel era, and the Mike era, and even the KTMA era. All of which, I would recommend as awesome viewing.

http://www.cupandblade.com/store/catalog/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=ab3
38cef84ade938520b886f66413fc1



Also, adding my two cents on the Mike/Joel argument. I love both.


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Monday, November 6, 2006 6:14 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Yay! Finally, someone else acknowledging Pod People!! It looks as though we have the same taste as I have also listed here and in the other MST3K thread my love for Boggy Creek II: And the Legend Continues and A Touch of Satan. I actually had my brother and his friend over this weekend and we watched both episodes! Oh, the short shorts from writer, director, producer, and star, Mr. Charles B. Pierce!! And Tim, keep your flippin' shirt on, for the love!

And, yes, I have started reading the Serenity MSTing and I don't know why I keep putting off continuing it; the beginning was cracking me up. I guess I must overcome the idea that Joel/Mike and the bots didn't actually perform it.

In the above, we were, or at least, I was referring to a MSTing of the series, which I hold much dearer to my heart than the movie. I guess I'm just a little weary because, again, the TWOp treatment was very frustrating.

"All I wanna feel now is the wind in my eyes. Pack of monkeys in my pocket, my sister's ready to go. Idiot patrol now, ninny in the road now."

Oh, and then there's:
"Steady as she goes, we're flyin' over trout."

Oh, I love that Joel!- especially when he sings that song. I love his little, patheticness. It's just perfect.
And, yeah, Mike is great too- with the spoofing- I probably laugh as hard with either, but I just adore Joel's dopey character.

Oh, goodness, you are right that they need to bring that show back. There is so much fodder for them. I'm thinking they could kill with a couple of episodes of Lost. I would certainly pay to see it. :)

Thanks for the link, Terri!!
~Natalie

"Can't take the sky..."

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:26 AM

AMYLISAI


Haha, I guess what you need to do is make your Mom a deal she can't refuse: offer to wash her car (or windows or whatever...) in exchange for her sitting down and watching Firefly from the beginning. :-) Good luck!

And I found the Serenity in 2000 words:
http://www.swartzer.com/writing/serenity2000.php

Also, thanks for the Serenity MST3 link, it really was quite funny and I was very impressed that the author was so well able to immitate what Mike and the droids actually sounds like. Immitating some one else's humor has to be harder than just being funny...

Cheers, Amy

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:22 AM

GRIZWALD


As I recall, the TWoP treatment of the BDM was actually rather sensitive. I teared up at one point. I only read a couple of the episodes and agreed, not all that funny.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:31 AM

PUMAMANREDUX


yet another Mike Nelson thing to check ... his myspacepage

http://www.myspace.com/michaeljnelson

Folks have had interviews with the man posted online .. here are some

http://movies.ign.com/articles/389/389650p1.html


http://tom-servo.home.mindspring.com/special-events_interview_mike-nel
son.html



Here are some bonus interviews with folks who did the MST3Ked movies and some who did not

(scroll to bottom and you will see a list of articles)
http://mst3k-review.home.mindspring.com/index.html

http://alleged.home.comcast.net/cory2.htm (Cinematographer from Future War)

http://alleged.home.comcast.net/davidgiancola.htm (the director of Time Chasers)

Nelson is currently working here >>>

http://www.filmcrewonline.com/

here >>>

http://rifftrax.com/

and for

http://www.legendfilms.net/

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 9:37 AM

TERRI


What do you think?

*Shows OK sign*

IT STINKS!!

(Priceless)


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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:33 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Quote:

Originally posted by Terri:
What do you think?

*Shows OK sign*

IT STINKS!!

(Priceless)



LOL! Yes!

"Can't take the sky..."

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:10 PM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Dang! Thanks for all of the links, Pumaman! I will put them on the to-do list for tomorrow. :)

Ooh! And Mike has a myspace page! That's great. I was hoping he was doing some writing somewhere but I couldn't find anything besides his website. Thanks, again, for doing our MST3K research for us. :)

"Can't take the sky..."

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:51 PM

PUMAMANREDUX


Quote:

Originally posted by IHeartFirefly:
Dang! Thanks for all of the links, Pumaman! I will put them on the to-do list for tomorrow. :)

Ooh! And Mike has a myspace page! That's great. I was hoping he was doing some writing somewhere but I couldn't find anything besides his website. Thanks, again, for doing our MST3K research for us. :)

"Can't take the sky..."




*Salutes by pinching an imaginary cap*

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