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Male and Female Imponderables--Snow Blind

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:00 AM

TRISTAN


Another episode in the continuing saga that is the Imponderable thread.

Previous thread:
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Index thread:
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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:02 AM

DAYVE


me? is it me jesus?

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:20 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' Tristan, Dayve.

Anything interesting on your minds today?

I pulled up CNN.com and saw the following headline:
Report: Cheney's lesbian daughter pregnant

It made me chuckle a little.

Tristan, I stole part of your signature, hope you don't mind.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:24 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, Dayve!

Morning, RIMG! I don't mind at all. More people may click that way.

Hehehe, lesbian daughter pregnant. That's a big "oops" right there, eh?

Not too much is going on here. Trying to get project sewing done so I can start on Xmas gifts. It's nice to have a skill that's appreciated by the family!

Anything new with y'all?

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:28 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


I think it was intentional that she got prego, but the story didn't have much detail.

As for a skill appreciated by the family, I racked the Irish Red to secondary last night, and it smelled and looked absolutely perfect. Two more weeks and I will bottle it, then three-ish weeks and it's ready to drink.

I am still in the same mood/funk I have been in for a week and a half or so.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:31 AM

TRISTAN


Ah, intentional makes more sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

See, now you have a skill that anyone can appreciate! So...five weeks, eh? *sigh*

I am sorry about the funk. I don't think the holiday season helps any...I'm finding myself slipping into one every now and then, too. Know that the Browncoats are here, though, and they are very good at lifting spirits!

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:47 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


Morning Tristan ,how are you on tjis beautiful morning ?

RIMG - *hugs * I wish I could take it away for you.


Hey ,it's Dayve ! Hi Dayve !

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:50 AM

DAYVE


Morning all...

Holiday funk.... yeah, I get that too Tristan. Some day I am going to get as far away from the commercialization of Christmas as I can…. If only for the season….

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:51 AM

MAGDALENA

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Hello to some of my favourite men at FFF.net!

Hello Qing ren!! oh dear - Tristan, this is a song title we've had before sweetheart... check the index I gave you - I am sure it's there... mind you, there are about 80 threads by now so you are totally forgiven if you slip up occassionally! Why don't you change it to "DownUnder"?

RIMG I am so sorry that you are in one of those 'pits of despair' ... specially if it is one without Mel Smith to keep you company... I'm glad you found your way to your FFF.net family though! Huge {{HUGS}} Honey!!

Hello Davye! Well done on the firstiness - but you are supposed to do a celebratory dance or something you know - there are standards to be upheld!!

EDIT: Hello my wonderful Little Albatross I just replied to your gorgeous email - you don't know how much I love them! I have been listening to my Fleetwood Mac CD too and can't help thinking of you now!!

It's a tough time for heaps of folk Davye - I think the older we get the more we realise that Christmas is about more than commercialism and happy-happy-joy-joy... there is a lot of heartache and tarnished tinsel too...


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:53 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


Magda !


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:54 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


LA - Believe me doll, I do too.

EDIT: Magda - LOL @ pit of despair, too funny.

Also, I wasn't aware that they had to be song titles, so my bad on the last one.

Dayve - I hate this holiday so much because of the overcommercialization (wow, that is a bigish word)

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:00 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, LA29! Trying to stay warm and wishing clients would just leave me alone!

Dayve, this one is particularly difficult. I'm not going for sympathy, just explaining the situation I have a big house I am alone in right now, and I don't even have the desire to put up a tree. That, and the bloody Xmas tunes on the muzak coupled with the holiday bustle is enough to make one seek out a cave until the middle of January. If you find a holiday-free zone, Dayve, let me know...I'll join you!

Qing ren! I figured this one had been used before...but if I try to change it, it might create problems. I'll see what I can do!
Hope you are staying away from the fires?

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:01 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


RIMG * great big hugs * as Sean would say .
And a just because you are shiny.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:02 AM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by magdalena:
Hello Davye! Well done on the firstiness - but you are supposed to do a celebratory dance or something you know - there are standards to be upheld!!



One of the reasons i try not to be the first to post.... i was raised in a baptist household and we are strictly forbidden to dance... it has tramatized me to no end....

i really am trying to come out of my shell[/]....

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:06 AM

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Oh RIMG... I thought it was a song... well some of the lyrics at least! I thought it was perfect!! Glad you liked the 'pit of despair' reference... I love that movie and it cheers me up no end when I am down!! Between us LA & I will remove your funk and generally de-funk things for you!! Failing that we're turning up at D*C with lots of hugs for you!! 268 more days (or is it less now?)

Hello Little Albatross!! I cannot believe we are on together - it is a rare occourance! Hugs Honey!! Love you!!

Well... I might allow another Christmas song instead of 'Down Under' actually - what about 'Joy to the World'... oh dear, not good for those in a funk... ah... 'God rest ye Merry Gentlemen'... too sexist? 'Away in a Manger'? or ah... oh I dunno... don't expect my brain to work at 2am...

2am???!!! Oh no!! I am going to have to go to bed wonderful friends - I do hope to catch up again soon! Take care and happy pondering!! - Magda x x x

Edit: Davye - those Baptists have a lot to answer for, them and the Methodists!! Keep trying - I am sure a few of us here can help some!

Qing ren I am trying to keep away from the fires - but it is more a matter of hoping the fires stay away from me! Seriously I am perfectly safe - though I have a few issues with breathing and smokey atmosphere and all that - but spare a thought for us all the same! Oh - maybe you could rename the thread "Smoke gets in Your Eyes"??

Now I am seriously going to be in my bunk!!!!


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:10 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Thanks for the hugs and es LA, and I think you're pretty damn shiny, so you can have them right back

Tristan/Dayve - when you find such a place, I am in. I'll bring the beer.

EDIT: Magda - Anyone who does not like/is not aware of that movie definitely concerns me. I have seen it enough where I can quote it all, even sound effects. 267 days until Thursday. g'night babe, sleep sweet.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:13 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


Msgda why must we always just miss each other ????? I love you too ,dearest friend !


Tristan - come to the pub for some coffe by the fire ,that should warm you up.
And I'll happily mail the space monkeys to you to fill up that house .Or you could come here for the holidays y'know !



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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:14 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Morning, Everyone.

to all- Things have finally slowed down at work and I'm able to focus on what really counts - my life and friends online!

Tristan, make sure you put up that tree, deck those halls, and make with the merry. If you don't you could be one sad little Alabaman come Christmas. Besides, who's gonna make Christmas for you? Yup, gotta DIY.

Well, coffee beckons, and it may have warmed up enough to have myself a little smokey treat break. Maryland isn't 75 degrees anymore...

(I for one am happy for Cheney's daughter. She and her partner have been together a looong time. Building a family is the next step in a relationship, regardless if it is same sex or not. )



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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:16 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
Msgda


Is that a combination of MSG and magda ?????

EDIT: mornin' Mav. I agree on the family thing, they have been together 15 years and deserve it if it is what they want. Also, yay for calling them smokey treats.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:30 AM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan:
If you find a holiday-free zone, Dayve, let me know...I'll join you!



It can be tough. The wife and i quit the tree thing long ago - if we feel the need to see one we go over to the creek place (ranch) - there is a huge living cedar tree we call the xmas tree - because of its shape - birds and wildlife are our ornaments - hot cider or tea and some pepperment work just as well as millions of electric bulbs and inflatable snowmen for the spirit...
peace be with you....

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:35 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


dayve - that sounds so perfect.I wna to live somewhere like that !


RIMG -stop teasing me about my lousy typing skills !

Edit : The new title threw me .. where am I ?

RIMG - I e-mailed you at work & it got bounced back, because I'm a spaz .Can you send me an email from there to witchy.woman13@verizon.net and I'll just put it in my address book.I fixed my e-mail issue ! Shiny.




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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:39 AM

MSG


HUGS to all ...especially my magda. Don't have time to read or respond chaos ensues. Teachers absent, subs haven't shown, trying to teach several classes at once. will try to get in later

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:39 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


I wasn't teasing, just thought it was a neat coincidence. If it hadn't looked like a combination of their names, yet still been a typo, I would not have brought it up.

EDIT: mornin' MSG. This might help (but sadly, only virtually):

* creates temporary clones of MSG to get to the classes that need covering, eying Tristan and JQ suspiciously as the clones pop out *

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:42 AM

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Dayve, RIMG, I would be amongst good company.

Magda, sleep well, qing ren!
Stupid halfway-around-the-world, time-difference....grr.

LA29...um...thanks for the offer of the space monkeys, but there are a few too many sharp pointy objects around. Might end up with a shish-ke-bob. I do thank you for the invite, though. Don't be surprised!

Mavourneen, good morning! Yep...life and online friends are the important things in life!
I will take your advice. DIY holiday cheer.
And I second RIMG....I call them smokey treats, too! Did not know there were others!


Oh, Dayve, that spot of yours sounds wonderful! Thank you for sharing that...I have a nice picture in my head now.
Peace be with you as well.




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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:46 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


RIMG - from you teasing is allowed ! right back.

Look up at my last post,
I just wrote something to you.

Morning Msg.Sorry bout the chaos .


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:54 AM

ZEEK


So here's something to ponder. How do you tell a friend they're in a bad relationship? People tend to a.) not want to hear it b.) want to prove you wrong and c.) just not listen to that type of news in general.

So do you just sit back and let it go horribly wrong or do you do something about it?

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 5:59 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


Zeek ,
I've done both & found that just telling my opinion if I'm asked is much easier.Or if it's that bad I won't wait until asked.I cannot abide by holding my toungue while someone I care about is being hurt, or taken advantage of.I'd be right upfront , but I've learned that the hard way.

Edit _ I should say though that while I speak my mind I don't usually try to convince my friends of anyhitng,always trying to say that it's only my opinion! Staying quiet is just too hard for me

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:05 AM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
How do you tell a friend they're in a bad relationship?



Zeek, it has been my experience that people in bad relationships must find it out for themselves. As much as we want our friends to be happy, sometimes people just make bad choices. I understand your wanting to help, but remember that they are the ones who have to deal with it..... of course it doesn't hurt to tell them how you feel about the situation - maybe you can point out something that they're not seeing.... good luck

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:09 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Dayve is Jesus! I knew it!!!

*cough*

Hey all. May not be able to stay long, but I had to jump in. What are we pondering? *peers at thread* Pregnant lesbians? Um... Okay... Gee, finally found a subject I don't have a witty anecdote about...




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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:15 AM

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DTH you heretic !


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:19 AM

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Bad relationships - seen them from both sides and I'm with LittleAlbatross. You have to figure out it's bad on your own. You can tell a person they're in a sucky situation, but a lot of the time they just don't listen. I didn't. I was convinced that my friends just didn't grasp the complexities of my particular situation. And I've since watched some of them make the same mistakes as me. It's a sad fact of life.

You have to be a browncoat though. Never give up trying! Don't shut up unless the friend threatens to cut off all ties with you, as it's important to be there when they need you.




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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:21 AM

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Not heretic, heathen!




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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:22 AM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Dayve is Jesus! I knew it!!!



actually that's an old Judas joke... the punch line is all i remember...!

(but i have my moments...)

edit: and DTH heathen are my brethern

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:28 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
Or if it's that bad I won't wait until asked.I cannot abide by holding my toungue while someone I care about is being hurt, or taken advantage of.


Well actually it's not like that. It's sorta the opposite. I think the girl he's with is the one who will get hurt most likely. Cause I know he doesn't actually care about her. He's just a needy guy who likes to be liked. They were old high school sweethearts, but they don't really fit together. He's educated. She isn't. He likes intelligent conversation. She likes staring at shiny things.

Basically anytime he sees something better come along he kicks her to the curb until he realizes that the somethin better isn't into him and then he goes right back to her. They hardly ever see each other anyway. After leaving for college they've never lived in the same state even. He's already done with grad school and on to a real job. She's still living at home. I mean it's hardly a relationship to begin with.

It's just a security blanket IMO. He needs to quit holding on and move on with his life already.

At least that's my take on it. I've hardly got any personal experience of seeing the two of them together.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:32 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, Zeek! Good ponder.
Generally, I try to stay out of things like that. Other people's relationships are not any concern of mine in that I have no business poking around in them. That said, however, if it is an obvious train wreck, I will at least try to talk to the friend and find out what's going on. I have a little bit of experience with bad relationships so I do know something about them.
Basically, I agree with LA29 in this, but also see where Dayve is coming from.
Huh. I guess I am all wishy-washy about this one. Just ignore me.

Morning, DTH! I just sent you a PM...hopefully you got it.



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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:42 AM

DAYVE


well, i hate to crack wise and leave, but it seems my time here is coming to a middle...

i'll be out for a while - maybe until after the high holidays - so to all of you, here is my wish for some peace on earth and for crying out loud.. good will towards men (and womens)....

we'll talk later

dave

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:44 AM

TRISTAN


We shall see you around, Dayve! Have a great holiday season! And thank you.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:51 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:

It's just a security blanket IMO. He needs to quit holding on and move on with his life already.




Zeek- This is the safest way to approach "meddling" (in the nicest possible way)in his relationship.
If you get an opportune moment ( for me these moments seem to come late at night at my local billiards hall over 7 & 7's, but you pick the time and place)you could broach your opinion. Gently and carefully.
Some people need an outside viewpoint to see they need to move on. I did, and am in a much better employment sitch as a result of a well meaning nudge from someone who cares about me.

Tread carefully...but IMO to not tread would be a loss for your friend.


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:00 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


I am with DTH on the bad relationship issue, when I have tried to tell people they won't listen (and saying 'I told you so' afterwards isn't as much fun as it usually is). I have also been told that before, and made up plenty of excuses not to listen (which is why I am in the down/funk that I am in now).

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:08 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


Zeek , I understand your concern .And you could have a talk with him if you think it might help.
It sounds so much like my brother-in-law's relationship & now he's been married to that girl for 15 years. So you really never know how things will turn out.Remember that it's her choice to be with him, too.

Ohh look something shiny !


Dayve - have a blessed holiday season !

RIMG - but to me not saying anything would eat at me until I burst.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:14 AM

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Tristan - got the message and would be happy to help. Let me stew on it a bit and I'll come back to you with some ideas and requests for anything I need!




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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:16 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


OOH , do you two have an evil plot to take over the world ?

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:19 AM

TRISTAN


DTH, thank you. Just let me know what you need. Thank you.

LA29...evil plot? Us? Nooo...what makes you think that?

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:23 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


Tristan -don't think I can't see that look in your eyes !


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:23 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Tristan, you know, she might not be that far from the truth, except I see the 501st as the evil in the world and the 76th as the shining light of justice.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:25 AM

TRISTAN


RIMG....ya know....she is not that far from the truth when you put it that way...huh!

LA29, yes, we do have a plot to take over the world, but it is not evil at all!

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:26 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Us? Plot? Never! *innocent face* We're far too good for that!




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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:30 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


DTH - maybe a scheme then ?

Be careful, I'm watching you both from now on ...

Tristan - well as long as it's not evil ,it's shiny with me.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:37 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Ah, but can you watch all 3 of us LA ?????

BTW, you have a long e-mail coming toward you / already there.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 7:39 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


RIMG - True , but I have spies ...

I look forward to reading it.

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