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Sunday, September 28, 2003 12:19 PM

CHANNAIN

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I was at the Renaissance Festival yesterday. I like to walk and people-watch when I'm there, catch some of the characters and patrons in great costumes with their Nikes and Reeboks. Low and behold, what should I see at the Treetop Stage? A musician performing on a hammered dulcimer.

For those of you who have read the script for or seen "Heart of Gold," you'd probably understand.

This thread is the latest in a series that I hope to continue in to the black and beyond.


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Sunday, September 28, 2003 12:57 PM

KAYTHRYN


Channian, you beat me to the festival thingy! I went to the Malabar Historical Festival today. There were blue coats, guns, cowboys on horses, covered wagons, twangy music, and a lot of people were in time period costumes just as some country folks. At one point I found myself dancing a little gig with an old man to a fiddle player and it became my own little Triumph... well, minus the fake marriage and all the dust. It was great.

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Sunday, September 28, 2003 1:39 PM

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS


Bear in mind, you might not find out about the fake marriage until the next day... You didn't get a hat made from a tree, did you?

History repeats the old conceits

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Monday, September 29, 2003 6:38 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kaythryn:
Channian, you beat me to the festival thingy! I went to the Malabar Historical Festival today. There were blue coats, guns, cowboys on horses, covered wagons, twangy music, and a lot of people were in time period costumes just as some country folks. At one point I found myself dancing a little gig with an old man to a fiddle player and it became my own little Triumph... well, minus the fake marriage and all the dust. It was great.



More to the point - do you recall giving anyone a hat made out of a tree?

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Monday, September 29, 2003 8:28 AM

STILLSHINY


OK, this thread brings back this thought, so if there is a crime for reposting, shoot me, or just rub soup in my hair.

Posted this back in the Ten Things I learned from Firefly Post.

"When you start drinking, and a girl gives you a pretty hat made out of a tree and starts to dance with you, you are signing up to have & to hold.

and when that same girl who has nice qualities tries to seduce you, your pilot & your companion, then sabotages your ship, and leaves you & your crew at the hands of those who would kill them even though she didn’t and she made you dinner, remember marriage is hard work & you shouldn’t give up."

happy mun-day

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 7:59 PM

NOOCYTE


Kind of a tangent from the actual content of this thread (geez, and I flunked trig..[probably why I'm a psychologist...])

Buuut...

The other day, I heard the new song from Godsmack, entitled "Serenity" (I kid you not). It's an appealing fantasy that the band members would declare themselves ardent and evangelical Browncoats, and so expose millions of impressionable listeners to the wonder that is Firefly. But if wishes were horses...

Still, the music has a vaguely FF-twangy thing going on at points, and if you listen to the lyrics, you might even imaging Mal, lookin' out the viewports, thinking morose thoughts:

Quote:

Where do we go when we just don't know and
how do we re-light the flame when it's cold?
Why do we dream when our thoughts mean nothing and
When will we learn to control?

refrain
I need Serenity
And a place where I can hide
I need Serenity
Nothing changes, days go by...



All in all, good tune.

Keep flyin'!



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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 5:48 AM

KAYTHRYN


I was studying (I kid you not, I really was) my psych this morning and had to stop when I read this...

"The amygdala is involved in anger and aggression."

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 5:59 AM

STILLSHINY


I got stuck with 5 rugrats the other night. Decided the best way to keep them occupied was video. So I popped in Robin Hood by Disney, not that by Costner where the ultimate conflict is can Robin break a door down faster that the Sheriff can undo his drawers? Please! *shudder* Anyway, The fox (just realized that said fox, sorry to put said animal in a bad light) Robin Hood is quite the shiny fellow, who runs with a gang of thieves and even have their own preacher Friar tuck. (although he's a badger which is just funny and ironical. ) And at one point in time Little John is making a lamp using fireflies. And says "Dance little fireflies, dance" Yep, call me Mr. Hopeless. Shiny

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:16 AM

JAVIDRHO


The past two months I have been working overtime programming a complicated piece of software which will, one day, go on the International Space Station (to control a camera we are putting up there). To keep from burning out, I have been following the advice of Agent Cooper of Twin Peaks (see sig below). Every day, once a day, (around noon), I close the door to my office, get out my lunch, put on my headphones, and enter the Firefly universe by watching one of the episodes on my computer. Today it was "Out of Gas" which seemed appropriate...

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:23 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by stillshiny:
Little John is making a lamp using fireflies. And says "Dance little fireflies, dance" Yep, call me Mr. Hopeless. Shiny



The whole Robin Hood legend still holds a special place in my heart, which is why I have such a thing for Firefly. Mal can say what he wants, but much as he'd like to rob from the rich and keep it, we all know he'd give to the poor if he had a mind to.

Disney's Robin Hood is still an all time favorite. In fact I had the vinyl soundtrack album and played so much I'm pretty sure I wore it out.

Little John is manufacturing a "crystal ball" for Robin to use to fool Prince John. The line is, "Okay, little fireflies - glow, babies. Glow."

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:28 AM

STILLSHINY


Quote:

Originally posted by Channain:
Quote:

Originally posted by stillshiny:
Little John is making a lamp using fireflies. And says "Dance little fireflies, dance" Yep, call me Mr. Hopeless. Shiny



The whole Robin Hood legend still holds a special place in my heart, which is why I have such a thing for Firefly. Mal can say what he wants, but much as he'd like to rob from the rich and keep it, we all know he'd give to the poor if he had a mind to.

Disney's Robin Hood is still an all time favorite. In fact I had the vinyl soundtrack album and played so much I'm pretty sure I wore it out.

Little John is manufacturing a "crystal ball" for Robin to use to fool Prince John. The line is, "Okay, little fireflies - glow, babies. Glow."

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Had the same record. Actually had most of them. I was probabaly getting it confused with something "the voice actor" said as Baloo the bear in Jungle Book or I was just wrong. I'm humbled that you pulled that correct quote so quickly. *bowing in homage*. Long live Robin Hood!!!! Keep Flying.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:35 AM

TY


I actually thought of Firefly last night, when Nathan Fillion and I met for a romantic picnic after dark...he is gorgeous and he smelled so good. And it got downright dirty after that, sweaty, nasty and every ounce of XXX....SOOOO, I would say that I thought of Firefly in the early morning hours of today and then proceeded to touch my...WHOA...(Too Much Information!!!)

Sorry guys, but that Nathan makes for such smutty fantasies.

LOL

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:37 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by stillshiny:
Had the same record. Actually had most of them. I was probabaly getting it confused with something "the voice actor" said as Baloo the bear in Jungle Book or I was just wrong. I'm humbled that you pulled that correct quote so quickly. *bowing in homage*. Long live Robin Hood!!!! Keep Flying.



A browncoat after my own heart

That would be (drum roll) Phil Harris in the part of Little John who coincidentally was also a bear, just as big as Baloo, but a different color.

Now does this sound like something somebody out on the rings would sing?

Every town
Has its ups and down
Sometime ups
Outnumber the downs
But not in Nottingham
I'm inclined to believe
If we were so down
We'd up and leave
We'd up and fly if we had wings for flyin'
Can't you see the tears we're cryin'?
Can't there be some happiness for me?
Not in Nottingham

Or maybe just me...

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:52 AM

STILLSHINY


Quote:

Originally posted by Channain:


Every town
Has its ups and down
Sometime ups
Outnumber the downs
But not in Nottingham
I'm inclined to believe
If we were so down
We'd up and leave
We'd up and fly if we had wings for flyin'
Can't you see the tears we're cryin'?
Can't there be some happiness for me?
Not in Nottingham

Or maybe just me...

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Wow! it's amazing how much life filtered through Shiny glasses looks. Sometime we should do a thread on the whole Robin Hood / Firefly similarities stuff. I've not mastered the art of quoting threads yet.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 7:06 AM

LJC


Shiny! I was a HUGE "Robin of Sherwood" fan in high school and college, and I think one of the first times I went to Bristol in Wisconsin was the year scenario did the Robin Hood play (which, after years and years of pirates versus Coke's cgaurds, they brought back this year, just in time for "Pirates of the Caribbean" to be a smash hit, because Ron Scott Fry and REC are just. that. smart.)

Which show were you at, by the bye? Michigan, Ohio, or MNRenfest?

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 7:23 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by LJC:
Shiny! I was a HUGE "Robin of Sherwood" fan in high school and college, and I think one of the first times I went to Bristol in Wisconsin was the year scenario did the Robin Hood play (which, after years and years of pirates versus Coke's cgaurds, they brought back this year, just in time for "Pirates of the Caribbean" to be a smash hit, because Ron Scott Fry and REC are just. that. smart.)

Which show were you at, by the bye? Michigan, Ohio, or MNRenfest?



MMRenfest, although I haven't seen that show in awhile. I saw Robin of Sherwood in high school too, and of course I own the Errol Flynn classic. Kevin Kostner's was so-so. Not one of Morgan Freeman's wisest choices, but the costumes were good. Also own two books of the legends - one from my parents and one children's version because the artwork was so good.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:04 AM

LJC


I used to go up to MN Renfest over Labor Day week-end, to hang out with my friend the Fabulous Lorraine, who i think is still performing up there (she's a singer/fiddler). Haven't been up in ages and ages, tho :(

RoS was my first real fandom--I did 'zines and cons and everything. I so need that series on DVD. I know it's out in the UK (my friend Abbie worked on the DVDs, doing interviews and segment producing) but I haven't seen Region 1 versions available yet... Hawkmoth (Dangermom) was a RoS fan as well, tho I met her later, in Disney's Gargoyles fandom...

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 12:34 PM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by LJC:
I used to go up to MN Renfest over Labor Day week-end, to hang out with my friend the Fabulous Lorraine, who i think is still performing up there (she's a singer/fiddler). Haven't been up in ages and ages, tho :(



You may know about this already, but there's a site called MRF Friends where the Festies keep in touch. You can get on a list service with them and start trading e-mails with the performers, artists, staff--just about anybody.

Here's the link: http://mrffriends.tripod.com/

Although I've been a Trekkie for eons (spelling intentional), Beauty and the Beast was my first real fandom. I even helped run the 1997 convention here in Minneapolis. Yup, me and two other people. Wouldn't do that again if someone paid me. Now I just stick to running one art show for one convention.

I have the pilot episode of RoS on video. I have the entire series on VHS too, however despite claims to the contrary from the so-and-so I bought it from at a gorram Creation convention, I believe it's formatted for British systems and I've never gotten it to run. I keep it though, on the outside chance I find someone who can help me.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2003 1:02 PM

MANIACNUMBERONE


Quote:

Originally posted by Channain:
Quote:

Originally posted by stillshiny:
Had the same record. Actually had most of them. I was probabaly getting it confused with something "the voice actor" said as Baloo the bear in Jungle Book or I was just wrong. I'm humbled that you pulled that correct quote so quickly. *bowing in homage*. Long live Robin Hood!!!! Keep Flying.



A browncoat after my own heart

That would be (drum roll) Phil Harris in the part of Little John who coincidentally was also a bear, just as big as Baloo, but a different color.

Now does this sound like something somebody out on the rings would sing?

Every town
Has its ups and down
Sometime ups
Outnumber the downs
But not in Nottingham
I'm inclined to believe
If we were so down
We'd up and leave
We'd up and fly if we had wings for flyin'
Can't you see the tears we're cryin'?
Can't there be some happiness for me?
Not in Nottingham

Or maybe just me...

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I love this song, and I used to sing it to myself quite often. That's the only reason I know that one of the lines is a little off. not that it makes a big difference. It's "if we weren't so down", instead of "were". Changes the meaning a little, but I can see how it definitely applies to places like Canton. What a shiny new thought to have when I'm watching Robin Hood. I own it by the way. Great flick.

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Thursday, October 9, 2003 3:06 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:

Every town
Has its ups and down
Sometime ups
Outnumber the downs
But not in Nottingham
I'm inclined to believe
If we weren't so down
We'd up and leave
We'd up and fly if we had wings for flyin'
Can't you see the tears we're cryin'?
Can't there be some happiness for me?
Not in Nottingham

I love this song, and I used to sing it to myself quite often. That's the only reason I know that one of the lines is a little off. Not that it makes a big difference. It's "if we weren't so down", instead of "were". Changes the meaning a little, but I can see how it definitely applies to places like Canton. What a shiny new thought to have when I'm watching Robin Hood. I own it by the way. Great flick.



Thanks, Mainiac. I copied these lyrics directly from a Web site that also featured the cast names, lyrics, some pictures and such. Ever since then, I've been running that line through my head thinking, "It should be 'weren't'. Shouldn't it be 'if we weren't so down'," and wondering if I remembered it wrong all these years. Should have known better!!

I was listening to the Writer's Almanac with Garrisson Keillor on MPR this morning. He always recites a poem at the end. Today's was "The Proverbial Ballad" (don't be too impressed, I looked that up too), of which I only remember one line, which is actually the fragments of two lines that got stuck in my head:

"You can't...teach an old racoon Chinese."

It got me to wondering, at 6:10 in the blessed a.m. whether the terra-formed worlds would even have racoons that would grow too old to learn Chinese. Strange thoughts to have before one's eyes are even open.

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Thursday, October 9, 2003 5:20 AM

KAYTHRYN


Oh ER just now...

“If wishes were horses we’d all be knee deep in crap.”

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Thursday, October 9, 2003 7:25 AM

CHANNAIN

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last night on Angel, the necromancer Magnus Hainsley was played by Victor Raider-Wexler, who previously played the firehouse captain on Two Guys and A Girl. just couldn't take him seriously as a necromancer because he was such a doof on Two Guys and A Girl.

okay, ready for the kicker? just saw the TG&AG episode where Johnny did a happy dance because he managed to double his stock investment... which led me to one image.

Mal doing the snoopy dance.

sometimes having such a shiny imagination is more of a curse than a gift.

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Friday, October 10, 2003 11:56 AM

SERENITYVALLEY


We were watching Wonder Boys in my creative writing class today. I was so happy to see Alan Tudyk!

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Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:27 PM

KAYTHRYN


I heard a song on the radio, I have no idea what it’s called but here were the few lyrics I heard…

I need Serenity.
I need a place to hide.
Where do we go when we just don’t know?

Anyone know what that is?

Then every song after that I heard made me think of FF. Pink’s “Troubled” sounded like the perfect River song.

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Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:07 PM

NOOCYTE


Hey, Kay;

Actually, if you scan down to the sixth message on this thread, you'll find my post identifying the song (Godsmack, "Serenity").

Pretty good, though I'm not all that sanguine about those "inner child" lines.

Pretty good tune, and no, you're not the only one with a very active Firefly filter over incoming pop culture. Does make us a mite vexing to the uninitiated, yes?


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Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:04 PM

KAYTHRYN


On my way home from school today I saw one of those signs with the arrow that lights up, it read,

"Ron's Glass Cutting..." and blah blah blah that I didn't catch.

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Friday, October 24, 2003 7:08 AM

BARNEYT


The fact that I've had the line

"Yeah, but she's our witch, so cut her the hell down"

running through my head all day, might have had something to do with my preoccupation with Firefly today...



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Friday, October 31, 2003 1:51 PM

SERENITYVALLEY


My friend (Hi Chana!) had some interesting ones the other day. Her niece rampaged through her room, tearing it to shreads, looking for markers. She felt like Simon when Jayne was looking for tape.

Also when the teacher kept poking at a student with a pen over and over, it was like Mal poking at Atherton Wing with his sword.

Speaking of Atherton, am I the only one who thought his name looked like Atherton Wind the first time I saw his name on Inara's little screen?

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