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Any other Firefly fans in Canton?

POSTED BY: PREZPOONLY
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 04:43
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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 5:34 AM

PREZPOONLY


Hi guys, I'm a new Firefly fan, just found the series recently. Could say I'm pretty hooked, even after only watching through it once, and the movie twice. What's so weird is out where I live, no one has ever heard of either the show or the movie before, and my new goal is to re-educate them slightly.

The thing is, I'm living in China right now, to be precise, in Guangzhou (yes, the city previously known as Canton). My big question right now is: are there any other fans living out here right now? I tried showing the pilot episode 'Serenity' to one of my friends today and he thought it was 'okay', which seriously disappointed me. Ah well, I'm going to keep on trying.

So far, I'm not sure what I like about the series so far yet, either its the characters or the premise. Sci-fi always made me grimace before Firefly because of its pretentiousness, but that's been cured now. I don't think anything quite compares to the realistic future portrayed by the show, and that's what really makes it special. Possibly the only thing that still makes me frown in Firefly is the horrific mutilation of Chinese by the actors, but then I heard somewhere that was intentional. I can't get Adam Baldwin saying "Dong ma?" (do you understand?) out of my head, its just too funny.


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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 5:47 AM

TINADOLL


Another Newbie!!! *waves*

So whats wrong with a little Jaylee?

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 6:13 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Hi there-

I only know of 1 person in China, a man who posts over at fireflytalk.com, the forum for the Firefly Talk podcast.

His name is laoshi -

http://www.ericolsenphd.com/fireflytalk/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u
=745


http://www.ericolsenphd.com/fireflytalk/




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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:31 AM

LAWMAN


Oh.. I thought you met Canton, Maryland. misunderstandings, ya gotta love that.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:34 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by Lawman:
Oh.. I thought you met Canton, Maryland. misunderstandings, ya gotta love that.



Here I was thinking it was Canton, GA.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:39 AM

MAVOURNEEN


You must be from Baltimore, hon. Only someone from Maryland would know of Canton!

And RIMG? I was thinking of Canton, OH!


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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:46 AM

LAWMAN


Canton Maryland, kind of like Whitefall, only not as civilized.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:35 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Gee, I thought he meant Canton, MI. Oh well.

Many welcomes, in any case.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 11:15 AM

MANWITHPEZ

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What? It's not Canton NC?

Something else funny about that drive in NC...at about mile marker 52, there's an exit for The Bat Cave at Asheville.


You'd think more people would know where it was, if they're going to post signs on the highway. Poor Bruce. See...this is where paying your taxes gets you.

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Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 11:16 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM


Also, Canton, Texas - home of First Monday TradeDays - not unlike the marketplace of Persephone, with a whole city block devoted strictly to animals - only difference is at Canton TX the good dogs are up and barking...

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 5:46 PM

LAWMAN


i think i am spending way too much time on this website. i just wish there was another thread on episodes here which is more updated.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 6:49 PM

STOWEAWAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Prezpoonly:
I tried showing the pilot episode 'Serenity' to one of my friends today and he thought it was 'okay', which seriously disappointed me.




You should make sure that anytime you show it to someone, they watch Train Job afterward.
"Serenity" pilot is helpful to establish characters but it is a tad slow. Once they see "Train Job", most are hooked.
Sorry, I don't know anyone in China. I've got friends in Kuwait and Germany, even Korea. But not China.
We're always here for you, though.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 6:50 PM

KAYNA

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Quote:

Originally posted by Prezpoonly:
Possibly the only thing that still makes me frown in Firefly is the horrific mutilation of Chinese by the actors, but then I heard somewhere that was intentional.



I haden't heard that. I heard (while watching the special features on my box set) that they all just sucked at the Chinese. They all seemed to know it too. I seem to reacall some of them saying they always wanted to do a better job at it. Nathan maybe? I'm not sure.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 7:10 PM

PREZPOONLY


I'm rather surprised by the large number of Cantons back in the US, lol, don't know why anybody would ever name their town that.

I saw on one of the extras from one of the dvds that the Firefly crew did have a Chinese trainer, but obviously it wasn't something that Joss Whedon was too concerned about. My new goal is to somehow convince him to take me on as the new trainer if they ever make a sequel or a new series or anything (if that ever happens). Did you guys know that the recorded voice on "Out of Gas" telling Mal that the life support is failing is not actually Chinese, but Cantonese? Bet someone has brought that up before, just checking.

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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 7:21 PM

THEKNIGHT


While I may not be in Guangzhou, I am just on the other side of the border in Hong Kong. Glad to know there is another browncoat over this side of the world. Mind, I am only going to be over here till May, I am, in fact here. Even gone up to Guangzhou once or twice. Nice place. Have a good one.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2007 3:17 AM

DONCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Prezpoonly:
I'm rather surprised by the large number of Cantons back in the US, lol, don't know why anybody would ever name their town that.

Many towns in North America were named for places in the Old World where the early settlers originally came from. So another possibility for the source of "Canton" is that the term refers to the districts of Switzerland (and maybe some other countries). I believe our word "county" is from the same root.

Quote:

Originally posted by Prezpoonly:
Did you guys know that the recorded voice on "Out of Gas" telling Mal that the life support is failing is not actually Chinese, but Cantonese? Bet someone has brought that up before, just checking.

Yes, that was mentioned in the book of Firefly essays edited by Jane Espenson. Possibly also in the commentary for that episode. The reason was that they hired a different translator for that announcement, not realizing they spoke Cantonese rather than (Mandarin) Chinese.

As far as the mangled pronunciation goes, I'm sure everyone would have preferred to get it perfect. However, none of the actors spoke any Chinese at all and had to be coached to get it even close. With the time pressure of a weekly television series, they simply didn't have the luxury of doing retakes if the only problem with a scene was the Chinese pronunciation.

If you need a "justification", just think of it as being Chinese of 500 years from now after it's been amalgamated and blended with English. I very much doubt that a Roman of classical times would recognize modern Latin either.


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Wednesday, March 7, 2007 4:43 AM

PREZPOONLY


Yeah, that's kinda what I read somewhere, but I just can't remember where, that the Chinese was a modified future version. Well, it kinda makes sense, getting two nations to assimilate each other is bound to produce a lot of people with weird accents.

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