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List your top male and female fictional characters of all time here.

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Monday, August 20, 2007 7:55 AM

CHRISISALL


I'm gonna shock everyone here and pick Mal Reynolds and Max Guevarra.

Next!

Keep it moving Chrisisall


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Monday, August 20, 2007 9:09 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I'd like to do a top five but right now, with my current state of heart I'd say The Maxx from Sam Kieths The Maxx and his female counterpart Julia.

Back in a place I never wanted to be remembering who I am, not who someone else thinks I am or someone I used to be.

That pretty much sums it up.

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Monday, August 20, 2007 11:27 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Female.

Winner.
Ellen Ripley.

Honorable Mentions
Vasquez.
Yo-Saf-Bridge.
Gloria. ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080798/ )
Minnie May. ( http://www.animefu.com/index.pl?node_id=8624 )
Mandy.
(dancer from irving berlin's white christmas, played by Vera Ellen, and the only female on-screen character to make me whimper in sexual frustration out loud.)

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Male.

Winner.
Colbey Callistinsson. ( http://www.mickeyzuckerreichert.com/cst_rc_01.html )

Honorable Mentions
Samuel "slick" Des Grieux. ( http://www.amazon.com/Warrior-Hammers-Slammers-No/dp/0671720589 )
Jayne.
Lon Suder ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Suder )
Ham Tyler ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%28TV_series%29 )
Richard B Riddick.


-F

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Monday, August 20, 2007 11:32 AM

LWAVES


Yeah!!! New list.
And one I don't think I've seen before.

It's a toughie tho'. So many to choose from.

For male character it would have to be Constable Benton Fraser of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. He came to Chicago on the trail of his father's killer and for reasons that need not be gone into now, has remained attached as liason to the Canadian Consulate.
Seriously, I always liked his honesty, loyalty and determination to do the right thing. Whilst he could be a little naive about some things, he still went with his heart in the right place. Even if he lost out by it.
There was a lot to admire about him.

For female I would have to go with the obvious answer of Buffy.
I thought long about this, bringing in novels, tv and films, but she has always stood out on top. There she was dumped with this almighty destiny, which basically meant she wasn't going to live long. But despite all her moaning, protests etc. she still followed her fate. She still fought for and protected those closest to her, to the best of her abilities. She even gave her life for them.

Hey Chris.
Mal I can understand, but would you give your reasons for Max?? I think it's a great show, with great characters (Herbal was my fave) but I am curious as to why she is your top. Maybe you just think she's hot (which she is).

Next!

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Monday, August 20, 2007 12:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Not etching this in stone or nothin, but here's my list, as of now...

Female:
Max Guevara

Honorable Mentions:
Sarah Conner
Aeryn Sun
Ripley
Rogue


Male:
Han Solo

Honorable Mentions:
Richard B. Riddick
Wolverine
Spike
Peter Parker





People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, August 20, 2007 12:31 PM

ALLIETHORN7


Female- Luna Lovegood (YES, the one from HP, I love her!)

Male- Johnny Rico (From Starship Troopers, the book)

-Danny

We move for all mankind,
A million miles from everything we've ever know...
We're on their hearts and minds,
A million heads are bowed to bring us safely home...
Hemmed in by emptiness,
A million ways that everything could be undone...

THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
My Master went to the Moon in a Rocket of Flamin' Cheese!
I LIKE CHEESE!!!
http://www.myspace.com/otherrandomdude

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Monday, August 20, 2007 12:38 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I'm gonna shock everyone here and pick Mal Reynolds and Max Guevarra.

Next!

Keep it moving Chrisisall



Of all time! Jees you never make these easy do you Chris...

Male:

Cyrano De Bergerac
Edward Scissorhands
Flash Gordon (Larry 'Buster' Crab)
Indianna Jones
Asterix the Gaul

Female:
Buffy
Marion Ravenwood
Maggie O' Connel (Northern Exposure)
Catwoman (Michelle Pfieffer)
Princess Aura (Flash Gordon... Hey it was the first time I fell for a bad woman. You don't forget that!)




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Monday, August 20, 2007 12:58 PM

SCHOOLBOYSWINK


Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:

For male character it would have to be Constable Benton Fraser of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Seriously, I always liked his honesty, loyalty and determination to do the right thing. Whilst he could be a little naive about some things, he still went with his heart in the right place. Even if he lost out by it.
There was a lot to admire about him.




Not enough people watched that show. Always a sleeper; real shame. Lot of heart.

As for my lists:

Male:
Duncan MacLeod - Highlander the Series & Endgame

Honorable Mention:
Mal - Firefly ("You wanna meet the real me NOW!" almost pushed him to #1)
Obi-Wan Kenobi - Star Wars (It being my contention that the further development of his character was one of the only positive things to come from the prequel trilogy.)
Madmartigan - Willow
Master Splinter - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Ferris Bueller - Ferris Bueller's Day Off (Yes, I'm serious.)
Henry "Indiana" Jones - Indiana Jones
Taran - Chronicles of Prydain


Female:
Aeryn Sun - Farscape

Honorable Mention:
Samus Aran - Metroid game series (again, a close call)
River Tam - Firefly
Delenn of Mir - Babylon 5
Dr. Janet Frasier - Stargate SG-1
Lady Jessica - Dune

"When you can't do somethin' smart, do somethin' right!" -Jayne Cobb quotes Shepherd Book

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Monday, August 20, 2007 3:02 PM

REGINAROADIE


So many good ones here. The ones I'm listing isn't necessarily "all time", but here are just a few off the top of my head.

Charles Foster Kane - CITIZEN KANE One of the great tragic characters in film history. The introductions to him and to another famous Orson Welles character Harry Lime in THE THIRD MAN are two of the best character reveals ever. But I give the edge to Kane in that no matter how many perspectives you see of the man, you never really know him. He's neither a hero or an asshole, although he has characteristics of both.

"A toast, Jedediah, to love on my own terms. The only terms anyone ever knows. His own."

Withnail from WITHNAIL AND I - There are many famous drunks, but this one is my favorite in that every one of Withnail's lines is a memorable quote and that he's a comedically tragic character. Yes, we laugh with him and at him, but at the end you realize that being a drunken unemployable actor is all he'll ever be. And the Hamlet monologue he delivers at the end of the movie is by far the best bit of Shakespearian acting ever put to film.

"I must have some booze. I DEMAND TO HAVE SOME BOOZE!!!"

Terry Anne Wolfmeier from THE UPSIDE OF ANGER - I know 2005 will be the year of SERENITY for all of us here, but one other movie I saw that I was a huge fan of was this little gem of a movie starring Joan Allen as the matriarch of these four girls. The husband has just disappeared (everyone thinks he ran off with his secretary, but the reveal at the end of the film as to his whereabouts brings a tragic edge to the movie I'm a big fan of real tragedies), and so this once very happy housewife has turned into this angry alcoholic whose trying to keep her family together. And even though she's a character that you're not supposed to like, you're both rooting for her and at times astonished at her behaviour.

"I love how you worry that the letter you sent to the parent who deserted you sounds too mean, and yet to the one here in the fight, you have no trouble saying the most vile things. Isn't that a tad odd?" (walks away, and then returns) "Please finish setting the table."

Susan Alexander in CITIZEN KANE

Even though KANE is pretty much all Welles show, he does give his actors great characters and material to play with. Susan Alexander is my favorite female character in the movie, since she's at first one of the few people sympathetic to Kane, but after years of abuse, she finally leaves. And when Kane pleads to her to stay, she gives what I think is the great put-down ever spoken.

"I see. So this is YOU who this is being done to. It's not me at all. Not how I feel. Not what it means to me. I can't do this to you? Oh yes I can."

What can I saw, I like the classics.

Oh and just really quickly, Elwood Blues, Calamity Jane from DEADWOOD, Salieri from AMADEUS and Mame Dennis as played by Rosalind Russell in AUNTIE MAME.

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Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

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Monday, August 20, 2007 3:56 PM

MEGG


This was a toughie but after careful consideration it has to be:

Male
Malcolm Reynolds

Female
Elizabeth Bennet From Pride and Prejudice

Honorable mentions

Male
Jack Sparrow
Han Solo
Zaphod Beeblebrox (from the book)
Rhett Butler
Mr Darcy

Female
Ellen Ripley
Ariel (The Little Mermaid)
Scarlett O'Hara
Buffy
Dr Quinn







"Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life"

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Monday, August 20, 2007 4:07 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I'll have to go with two different lists.

From filmed media:
Male: Rick Blaine
Honorable Mentions (not necessarily in this order) - Atticus Finch, James Bond, Mal Reynolds, Indiana Jones, Lucas Buck, The Dude (aka The Big Lebowski), Blondie (aka The Man With No Name), Jack Crabb

Female: Ellen Ripley
Honorable Mentions - Zoe Washburne, River Tam, Buffy Summers, Max Guevera, Rose Sayer, Diana Christensen, Annie Hall, Marge Gunderson, Jaye Tyler, Veronica Mars

From books:
Male: E. C. Gordon (Heinlein's Glory Road), which happens to be a role Nathan would be ideal for.
Honorable Mentions - Manuel Garcia O'Kelly Davis (Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress) - a role Alan would fit quite nicely too.
Gully Foyle (Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination)
Ensign Flandry (multiple Poul Anderson stories)
Lije Bailey (Asimov's The Caves of Steel and The Naked Sun)
Miles Vorkosigan (Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan saga)
Ender Wiggin (Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game, etc)
Jim DiGriz (Harry Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat series)
James Edward McCarthy (David Gerrold's War Against the Chtorr series)
Johnnie Rico (Heinlein's Starship Troopers)
Paul Atreides (Frank Herbert's Dune series)
David Valentine (E. E. Knight's Vampire Earth series)
Jack Barron (Norman Spinrad's Bug Jack Barron)
Hildy Johnson (John Varley's Steel Beach)
Severian the Lame (Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun)

Female: Marjorie "Friday" Baldwin (Heinlein's Friday)
Honorable Mentions - Cordelia Naismith (Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan saga)
Lila the Werewolf (from the novel of that name by Peter Beagle)
Elizabeth "Lizard" Tirelli (David Gerrold's War Against the Chtorr series)
Marianne O'Hara (Joe Haldeman's World's Trilogy)
Candy Smith-Foster (David R. Palmer's Emergence)
C'Mell (Cordwainer Smith's "The Ballad of Lost C'Mell" and Norstrilia)
Wendy Shasta Leonardo (Norman Spinrad's Child of Fortune)
Hildy Johnson (John Varley's Steel Beach) - yeah, yeah, I know I put this character in the male list too. You'd just have to read the book.
Holly Hollander (Gene Wolfe's Pandora by Holly Hollander)




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Monday, August 20, 2007 4:27 PM

MAEKCHU


Very difficult to come up with an all-time choice but without thinking too much, these come to mind first:

Male
Ash from Army of Darkness

Honorable Mentions
Mal
Jayne

Outside the genre
Michael Corleone (Godfather Trilogy)
Andy Dufresne (Shawshank)
Tony Montana (Scarface)

Female
Selene from Underworld

Honorable Mentions
Mystique (X-Men Trilogy)
Ripley

Outside the genre
Linda Fiorentino as Wendy Kroy from The Last Seduction
Ashley Judd as Libby Parsons from Double Jeopardy

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Monday, August 20, 2007 4:47 PM

MOBBEX


Stupid son a bitch dressed me up like a gorram doll!

Okay I thought about this long and wide

[s]Male:[/s] Malcolm Reynolds

HM(s): (in to particular order)
~ R. Daneel Olivaw (ehr... do androids count as male ?) ~ A boatload of Asimov books. Daneel > Data
~ Agent Smith ~ The Matrix
~ Jon Crichton ~ Farscape
~ Col. Jack O'Neil ~ Stargate SG1 & Stargate movie
~ Dark Vador ~ Star Wars

[s]Female:[/s] River Tam (My fascination for River knows no bounds.)

HM(s): (same as above)
~ Kreia/Darth Traya ~ SW KoTOR
~ Sarah Kerrigan ~ StarCraft
~ Dr Susan Calvin ~ Robots (NOT the movie)

Okay so I guess that some of you may smell some bias coming off this post... Well I guess it's yet another sign of your tragic space dementia . Seriously, I fell in love with the show largely because of it's thoroughly layered, multi-dimensionnal characters. No matter how I tried to put it their names still wound up on top. 'Point is : I didn't pick Mal & River because I *like* Firefly and I'm posting on a Firefly fan site. I did it because I honestly feel that they are the best gorram fiction characters ever written/acted!

Oh I spent way to much time dwelling on that... jesus...


'Not learning theory is like saying i don't want to communicate with people I'll just rub my penis all over their faces'. ----John Frusciante ~~~> Lol...

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Monday, August 20, 2007 5:53 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Marion Ravenwood did come to mind too when I was thinking of top female characters. I should have given in and just added her and Indy and been done w/ it.

Consider them on the list.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, August 20, 2007 9:29 PM

BORNTOFLY


Seeing as the crew of Serenity (and indeed, all Jossverse characters) is something of a given, let's see who else we got..

Male: Robert Neville (from I Am Legend). I will spoil nothing, suffice to say, you should read it.

Honourable Mentions:
John McClane (Die Hard)
T-800 (The Terminator)
Maximus Decimus Meridius (Gladiator)
Rocky Balboa (Rocky)
Deckard (Blade Runner)
V (V for Vendetta)
John Rambo (First Blood. And only First Blood. The other 2 don't count.)
Hannibal Lecter (The Silence of the Lambs)
Yegor (Night Watch)
David Brent (The Office)
Morpheus (The Matrix)
Neo (The Matrix)
Travis Bickle (Taxi Driver)
Terry McCaleb (Blood Work)
Jules Winnfield (Pulp Fiction)
Vincent Vega (Pulp Fiction)
Léon (The Professional, aka Léon)
Tyler Durden (Fight Club)

Female: Amelie (Amelie).

Honourable Mentions:
Trinity (The Matrix)
Mathilda (Léon)
Kitty Pryde (X-Men)
Clarice Starling (The Silence of the Lambs)
Deunan Knute (Appleseed)
Jo, Meg, Sei and Amy (Burst Angel)
Evey Hammond (V for Vendetta)
Veronica Mars (Veronica Mars)
Eleanor Arroway (Contact)
Dana Scully (X-Files)

That's all I got for now.






---
Forsaken initiate.

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Monday, August 20, 2007 10:12 PM

FOLLOWMAL


Hmm, this is tough, Chris.

Male
Malcolm Reynolds

HM
Jack O'Neill ( SG-1)

Female
Darwi Odrade ( Chapterhouse: Dune)

HM
Aeryn Sun ( Farscape )


There are other honorable mentions too numerous to do at this late hour.








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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:45 AM

ADRIENNEVIRGA


Female (no order):

River Tam (Firefly)
Miranda Bailey (Grey's Anatomy-only good thing about the gorram show now)
Evelin Aspros (my own creation and probably the worst and best thing that ever happened to me. Read more about her here http://www.freewebs.com/thiscouldgetinteresting/.)


Male:
Charlie Eppes (NUMB3RS)
Mal Reynolds (Firefly)
Apu Nahasapeemapetilon (The Simpsons)




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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:34 AM

FLATTOP


Pick one? Besides our BDH's (obviously)

Male: Paul Atreides (Dune)
Female: Lessa (Dragonriders of Pern)

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:25 AM

DEEPGIRL187


In no particular order:

Male:
Mal Reynolds
Harry Dresden
Spike
The Doctor
Edward Elric
ETA: Calvin and Hobbes

Female:
Anita Blake
Buffy Summers
Cordelia Chase
Sonja Blue (A kick-a hybrid vampire written by Nancy A. Collins)
Sarah Jean Henry (from a little known book called "Little Miss Strange")

Can't think of much else at the moment.

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:54 AM

LEXAN


Trying to find two single characters from all mediums (although River would most definitely be the female) while discarding others would be too difficult and exclusive, so I'm going to mention my favourites from the three 'main' mediums, though some of the choices would change daily.

Books:

Female: Margaret 'Meg' Murry
Male: Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov

TV:

Female: River Tam
Male: George Oscar Bluth II AKA Gob

Movies:

Female: River Tam
Male: Ricky Fitts (yeah, I know they're similiar)

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:50 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:

Hey Chris.
Mal I can understand, but would you give your reasons for Max?? I think it's a great show, with great characters (Herbal was my fave) but I am curious as to why she is your top. Maybe you just think she's hot (which she is).


She is for me the top example of a female (or male, for that matter) character that suffered loss and alienation who survived to find the gentler, loving side of herself in an often brutal existence. The character as written was great, but Alba took it to another level with her simple innocence among the kaos(sp?).
She, Mal, Buffy, and Ric Deccard (Blade Runner) are my faves because of this strength of character, and how well presented they were.

Atypically serious Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:00 AM

JONGSSTRAW


H. George Wells from The Time Machine (1960) ( Rod Taylor)
The man had tremendous courage, morality, and strength of character even though he was a pacifist.

Linda Barrett from Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982) (Phoebe Cates)
Girl had no courage, no morality, and no strength of character, but she sure knew how to exit a swimming pool.





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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:17 AM

KANEMAN


FEMALE
Debbie - (Debbie does Dallas)

H.M.
Nina Nickers - (Space Sluts)
Bambi Bush - (The Day My Balls Stood Still)
Samantha Squirt - (Whora Whora Whora)
Fiona Funyums - (Dick in the Dirt)



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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:25 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Ah the classics. Just think, the players in old porn actually had names and reoccurring roles.
Thanks Kane.

Favorites for the day:
Male: Mr Blonde. Michael Madsen wannabe today. Cool, cold, and pretty enough to make the girlies sigh.

Female:Persephone (Monica Bellucci) from the Matrix flicks. Talk about sighs. Think my heart just sank to the nethers. Hooah!

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:17 PM

SCHOOLBOYSWINK


Oh, crap. Ender! I totally forgot about Ender! (Seriously, if you have never read Ender's Game, do it! Especially if you are a male and had people picking on you growing up, especially if it was because you were "smart." If that is the case, you'll understand the social imperatives on the boy so strongly that you'll FEEL what he feels. If that be the case, I'd say if Ender's Game has not been translated into a language you speak, it would be worth it to learn a new tongue just to read it.)

That said, the reminder about Ender has made it impossible for me to choose. I had to cut too many already. Consider my lists just brief excerpts and my standouts of 'greatest' over HMs to be passing whims; I couldn't possibly exclude anymore.

"When you can't do somethin' smart, do somethin' right!" -Jayne Cobb quotes Shepherd Book

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:16 PM

SINGATE


Okay, I'll play.

Male: Elric
From the novels written by Michael Moorcock. This guy is the anti-Conan of the fantasy genre. Instead of being strong and noble he is a sickly albino forced to take drugs to maintain his strength. Instead of winning a kingdom he is born into royalty, the emperor of a decandent and somewhat depraved people. Instead of being a benevolent ruler he abandons his throne in search of adventure. Instead of being the typical knight in shining armor he is aligned with various dark forces including the most powerful Lord of Chaos. Throughout the books he is directly responsible for the deaths of his closest friends and loved ones. In stark contrast to Frodo, who is tasked with destroying the One ring to save Middle Earth, Elric uses a powerful object to bring about the downfall of his own world. The story ends with one of the great lines ever to appear in print or on film. "Farewell friend, I was a thousand times more evil than thou!"

Female: Ms. Parker
From the TV series The Pretender. A walking bad attitude. She's armed, tough as hell, doesn't take crap from anyone, and is fanatical about catching her quarry. Though her main objective was to catch Jarod some of her best moments occur via the political jockeying at The Centre. So she went a little soft near the end, I like to pretend some of that stuff never happened.

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:54 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


besides the BDH,
Men-
Sherlock Holmes, Mr Spock, and a heap of characters by Robert Heinlein. Alfie Doolittle from My Fair Lady.
Women, can't nail that one down-
Saffron and Nandi, fer shure, and a heap of others : Beatrice from Much Ado About Nothing, several of Heinlein's, Eliza Doolittle from My Fair Lady, Penny Lane from Almost Famous, both the Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman characters from Practical Magic.

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