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What *To* Call the movie (s)

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:27 AM

NEWBROWNCOAT


Yes, 1 movie would be great - but I "want my trilogy" !

Name the next movie "Serenity Lost" so that it has to be followed up with "Serenity Found" (tip of the hat to Jane E's latest book of essays by the same name). Within those 2 titles I think Joss could create a heck of a story that could fill in most if not all of the remaining back-story mysteries.

Just a suggestion, anyone have other possible title(s) ?





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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:40 AM

MRBEN


There's part of me that doesn't want Serenity in the title at all (a la Star Wars) but something new and unique.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:49 AM

GRIZWALD


I suppose there are intellectual rights issues involved with simply calling it Firefly?

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:52 AM

MISTERG


Firefly: What came before.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:59 AM

NEWBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by mrben:
There's part of me that doesn't want Serenity in the title at all (a la Star Wars) but something new and unique.

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I do understand your view - but then, there is such a thing as building "Brand" awareness/loyalty. As long as the name Serenity is not used in some cheap knock-off of some other movie sequel, I think it would be okay. With all the play on HBO/Cinemax, etc that the first Serenity movie has received, it would help with recognition. And based on the past example of marketing for the first Serenity movie, the next ones will need all the help they can get.

Serenity
Serenity Lost
Serenity Found

does borrow from "Paradise Lost". But that is a famous classic poem by Milton, rather than some cheap movie sequel, so I think the association could be a positive one. In fact, the movie sequence could be a loose parallel to the poem - which might provide a huge number of interesting possibilities for our BDH's.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:18 AM

CYBERSNARK


I like Joss' idea:

Serenity 2: Fly Harder

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:29 AM

ZZETTA13


just off the top of my head "Dark Serenity". Don't know why, just thought maybe it would bring in more BO (Box-office)

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:48 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Here's some titles that might attract a bigger audience:

Serenity 2 : Journey To The Edge
Serenity 2 : Showdown In Space
Serenity 2 : Countdown To Infinity
Serenity 2 : Civilization On The Brink
Serenity 2 : Heroes Never Die

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:51 AM

SORCHA425


I don't know, something about "Serenity 2" makes me cringe. Could be the other bajillion sequels that have been made recently. What's wrong with "Serenity", then a kind of subtitle? Why do we need the 2, besides letting people know there was a 1?

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:06 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Yeah, I agree....Serenity 2 is lame.

We need a mass audience for the next movie...so what's popular that people will want to go out and see? We need a minimum of 20 million people spending $ 7.00+ to break even.
So.....how 'bout...

Desperate Housewives In Space
Rosie O'Donnell Meets The Reavers...or alternate title....Leave It To Reaver
Who Wants To Be A Space Millionnaire?
American Idol Of The Universe
Hillary Conquers The Galaxy...aka Rise of the Rodhams





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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:13 AM

SCHOOLBOYSWINK


Following Jongsstraw, why not just call it "Random Explosions and Nudity: A Romantic Comedy Costume Drama".

I think that should cover the various demographics.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:42 AM

PACHELBEL


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I like Joss' idea:

Serenity 2: Fly Harder

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.



How about Serenity 2: Fly Harder with a Vendace?


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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:48 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Serenity 2 sucks, although I agree that serenity ought to be in there somewhere. I'm not diggin' on Serenity Lost much either though. What about Losing Serenity? The Battle of Serenity also strikes me as a good one.
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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:12 AM

NEWBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Serenity 2 sucks, although I agree that serenity ought to be in there somewhere. I'm not diggin' on Serenity Lost much either though. What about Losing Serenity? The Battle of Serenity also strikes me as a good one.
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I think Serenity Lost works because Milton's Paradise Lost is one of the most famous epic good vs evil stories of all time. God vs Satan - with a conjectured sympathetic view of Satan. The analogy to the Alliance vs the BDH's, another set of opposite sides, could really be exploited - yet turned around - The "Outlaw Side" (ie Satan side) actually being the good guys. The whole 2nd movie could be putting the BDH's in peril (Serenity Lost) to be resolved in the 3rd movie (Serenity Found) with the BDH's reclaiming their freedom to "go their own way" which was lost in the 2nd movie. Yeah, rather classic story arc, but that's okay - I think we want something epic here. And it would be great to have a 2nd movie that requires the 3rd to be done also ;-)

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:12 AM

ADAMWANKENOBI


Serenity: Still Flyin'

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:28 AM

PACHELBEL


Quote:

Originally posted by NewBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Serenity 2 sucks, although I agree that serenity ought to be in there somewhere. I'm not diggin' on Serenity Lost much either though. What about Losing Serenity? The Battle of Serenity also strikes me as a good one.
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I think Serenity Lost works because Milton's Paradise Lost is one of the most famous epic good vs evil stories of all time. God vs Satan - with a conjectured sympathetic view of Satan. The analogy to the Alliance vs the BDH's, another set of opposite sides, could really be exploited - yet turned around - The "Outlaw Side" (ie Satan side) actually being the good guys. The whole 2nd movie could be putting the BDH's in peril (Serenity Lost) to be resolved in the 3rd movie (Serenity Found) with the BDH's reclaiming their freedom to "go their own way" which was lost in the 2nd movie. Yeah, rather classic story arc, but that's okay - I think we want something epic here. And it would be great to have a 2nd movie that requires the 3rd to be done also ;-)



Isn't this covered/going to be covered with the comics?

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:31 AM

NEWBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by pachelbel:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Serenity 2 sucks, although I agree that serenity ought to be in there somewhere. I'm not diggin' on Serenity Lost much either though. What about Losing Serenity? The Battle of Serenity also strikes me as a good one.
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I think Serenity Lost works because Milton's Paradise Lost is one of the most famous epic good vs evil stories of all time. God vs Satan - with a conjectured sympathetic view of Satan. The analogy to the Alliance vs the BDH's, another set of opposite sides, could really be exploited - yet turned around - The "Outlaw Side" (ie Satan side) actually being the good guys. The whole 2nd movie could be putting the BDH's in peril (Serenity Lost) to be resolved in the 3rd movie (Serenity Found) with the BDH's reclaiming their freedom to "go their own way" which was lost in the 2nd movie. Yeah, rather classic story arc, but that's okay - I think we want something epic here. And it would be great to have a 2nd movie that requires the 3rd to be done also ;-)



Isn't this covered/going to be covered with the comics?



Don't know, not much into comics myself.


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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:50 AM

EARLY


I still like someone's earlier Serenity 2: The seach for wash



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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:56 AM

GORRAMREEVERS


Serenity II: Journey to a Crappy Town Where Wash is the Hero


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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:25 PM

DERANGEDMILK


Quote:

Originally posted by GorramReevers:
Serenity II: Journey to a Crappy Town Where Wash is the Hero




That's Serenity III and its voyage not jounrey. That is of course as a follow up to The Search for Wash. Trekkies with me on this one?
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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:45 PM

RIVERFLAN


Sorry, but although I'm a semi-trekkie myself, I don't think we should borrow from Star Trek. Firefly and now Serenity(s) need to be their own creation, instead of a mis-match of other creations.

I rather think I like the idea of Serenity Lost and Serenity Found


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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:28 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


It's been bouncing around in my head for a couple weeks. Please critique. (Not too harsh, now)

Serenity II: The Last Day of Freedom

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Find here the Serenity you seek.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:33 PM

RIVERFLAN


I like that! I like how you use greek numerals (II) instead of that stupid 2

But, it is kinda depressing, last day of freedom and all.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:47 PM

EARTHGIRL


I started a topic on the Canadian Browncoats board about titles we DIDN'T want to see attached to the Big Damn Sequel.
Mine was;

Serenity: the Alliance Strikes Back

Other titles we DON'T want, submitted by other BCs so far:

The Phantom Serenity

Runnin on Empty

Serenity II: The Search for Book

Serenity II: The Wrath Of Wash

WASH-ED AWAY

The Secret of T.A.M.

Friday the 13th, U-Day

Serenity 2

Serenity II

Serenity Deux

Nightmare on Wash Street

Serenity Returns

Serenity Begins

Serenity 2+2 Hands of Blue

Serenity Attack of the Reavers

Serenity Blue Sun

Serenity Episode 2

Serenity The Peace Wars

Return of Serenity

Revenge of Serenity

Reavers in Space!

Serenity VS Blue Sun

Serenity: Back in the Black

Serenity Now!

Firefly - The Movie

The Search for Serenity

Return of the Killer Fireflies!

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:00 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


RiverFlan,
Not meant literally, just what the Alliance will try to do to quell the angry people who saw the Miranda broadwave, including possibly the crew.

"...but they are not gone. And they are not forgiving."

Wouldn't "Serenity Lost" be depressing title, too?

Second movies are usually the darker ones anyway, so there will be big to solve for the third.

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Find here the Serenity you seek.

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:02 PM

PEGLEG


Serenity 2 : GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



props to the gag reel

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:05 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Just curious but why are so many of you against having SERENITY in the title for a sequel?

There is a good point to having just simply: Serenity II. It establishes the fact that there was a Serenity I to start with and for those who weren't aware of it, it would advertise as such. So while it may look a little limp it actually is practical. Granted it is hardly lyrical or profound, but I think Serenity itself went down this route. We've all just become accustomed to it.

However just for kicks I'll offer a few :)

Serenity: Persephone Bound.

Serenity: Serenus (When in doubt go Latin) :D

Serenity: Into the Black

One Hundred Years of Serenity.

The 'Verse according to Serenity

Serenity II: The Raggedy Edge.

g'night






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Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:18 PM

KAVONRA


I like Serenity: into the black as TheSomnambulist sugested.
I came up with...

SerenityII : Shiny and special.

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:29 AM

NEWBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
RiverFlan,
Not meant literally, just what the Alliance will try to do to quell the angry people who saw the Miranda broadwave, including possibly the crew.

"...but they are not gone. And they are not forgiving."

Wouldn't "Serenity Lost" be depressing title, too?

Second movies are usually the darker ones anyway, so there will be big to solve for the third.

--------------------------------------------------
Find here the Serenity you seek.




Yes, Serenity Lost would be a depressing title, that would be the point! Second movie and all that as you indicated. It would also be allegorical for the whole Serenity/Firefly experience. The cancelation of the show, the less that great initial run of Serenity (first movie) and the continued rise of the popularity resulting in the final completion of a whole trilogy of movies with Serenity Found. I believe with such an arc and set of titles all of the incomplete story arcs and backgrounds could be addressed, resulting in a final state of serenity for the fan 'verse.


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Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:58 AM

EARTHGIRL


someone else on the old universal board came up with some more funny titles we DON'T want to see. Have a laugh:

Sleepless in Serenity

Serenity 2 - Llamas on the Loose!

Serenity 2 - In Your Face, CHUD!!!!

Serenity: 37 Years Later

Serenity Babies

Serenityer

Serenity II - A Prequel to Serenity III

Serenity: The College Years

Serenity The Second Course

Serenity Also!

Serenity Too!

Serenity Again!

Uwe Boll's Serenity

Serenity II - The Ballad of Simon and Kaylee's Happy Marriage and Horrible Deaths

Serenity All Growed Up

Serenity 2: A Very Special Reaver

A Man Called Serenity

Serenity 2 - Opps, We Did It Again!

Serenity 2 - Police Academy 10

Serenity Two and a Half

Alien vs. Predator vs. Serenity

Serenity II - A Reaver Runs Through It

Serenity 2 - The Secret of the Unicorns and Rainbows

Serenity 2000!

Serenity II - We back!

I Still Know What You Did Last Serenity

Serenity III

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:59 AM

IZZOW


Quote:

Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
It's been bouncing around in my head for a couple weeks. Please critique. (Not too harsh, now)

Serenity II: The Last Day of Freedom

--------------------------------------------------
Find here the Serenity you seek.



I like the idea, but "The Last Day of Freedom" doesn't sounds right to me. Do you have any variants on this idea?

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:27 AM

ZEEK


Serenity: Blue Sunset

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:27 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Serenity X,

in line with the joke from Stargate SG-1 about Wormhole Extreme!-- " gotta have an X in there , It's better for the ratings."

:<)

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:52 AM

CASIVONA


I got it!
Here you go...

"Serenity II: TRAP!!"

or

"Serenity II: Bring Me a Pony"

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:56 AM

WOLFEN68


My vote:

Serenity: Into the Black

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:57 AM

WOLFEN68


oops....DP.

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:46 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by Kavonra:
I like Serenity: into the black as TheSomnambulist sugested.
I came up with...

SerenityII : Shiny and special.

off topic:
my first post on this MBoard. yay



Why thank you :D

And might I add, well done on your first post on the board.




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Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:02 AM

GORRAMGROUPIE


Pluralize it: Serenity: The Last Days of Freedom.
Titles to use to appeal to the Lowest common denominator:
The Fast and the Serenity
xXx - Serenity
Serenity Gone Wild!

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Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:55 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.


Quote:

Originally posted by Casivona:
I got it!
Here you go...

"Serenity II: TRAP!!"

or

"Serenity II: Bring Me a Pony"



Now THAT'S FUNNY!!

Better than Serenity: 'BOUT GORRAMN TIME!!!

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Friday, October 12, 2007 7:05 AM

CASIVONA


I'm full of 'em:

"Serenity II: Electric Boogaloo"

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Friday, October 12, 2007 8:21 AM

ASARIAN


We had a thread like this before, once. I remember someone, not me, came up with:

Serenity II: Revenge of The Sis.

THAT WAS FUNNY!


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Friday, October 12, 2007 8:36 AM

ASARIAN


Quote:

Originally posted by RiverFlan:
But, it is kinda depressing, last day of freedom and all.



Why, if it's depressing titles ya want, how's this (hopefully not too prophetic) title?

Serenity II: A long wait for a train don't come.


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Friday, October 12, 2007 9:12 AM

ARCLIGHT


"Serenity II: A long wait for a train don't come."

that is too cruel.


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Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:20 AM

RIVERFLAN


Quote:

Originally posted by asarian:
Quote:

Originally posted by RiverFlan:
But, it is kinda depressing, last day of freedom and all.



Why, if it's depressing titles ya want, how's this (hopefully not too prophetic) title?

Serenity II: A long wait for a train don't come.



I wasn't saying that I wanted a depressing title, just stating the fact that I think that title was depressing.

Here are some titles from me:

Serenity II: In The Black
Serenity II: The Search for Wash
Serenity II: Still Fylin'

Yes, I know, Serenity II is kinda boring, but it is practical, and we have the added stuff to it, so it shouldn't be too boring


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Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:57 PM

BRINGITBACK


Serenity: Into the Black

Love it!!!

Hints at hard times ahead for the crew, gets a few words from the 'firefly' theme..

This is now my title

Someone mentioned before

'Serenity II - The search for Wash'.. that was my idea..

But 'Serenity: Into the Black' is a million times better.

God let this happen

Joss has taken too long in bringing this rumour down.. Nathan is now a bankable star, the cast is still desperate to work with each other again..

And lets not forget us browncoats who will literally do and buy anything necessary!


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Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:58 AM

SORCHA425


Ok, so how about "Serenity: Independence"? That would play off Independents and the subtitle wouldn't be horribly long, as in many sequels. Just a thought.



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