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Vote for Firefly (Keep spreading the signal) III

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:11 AM

SISTER


vump with coffee, please.

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:13 AM

RALLEM


vump

Show Name Total Votes Percent Graph
VOTE! 1. Firefly UK US 604 12.38%
VOTE! 2. Jericho 603 12.36%
VOTE! 3. Farscape UK US 294 6.03%
VOTE! 4. The X-Files UK US 236 4.84%
VOTE! 5. Miracles 180 3.69%
VOTE! 6. Buffy the Vampire Slayer UK US 165 3.38%
VOTE! 7. Bonanza UK US 154 3.16%
VOTE! 8. Trapper John, M.D. 134 2.75%
VOTE! 9. Wonderfalls UK US 116 2.38%
VOTE! 10. Stargate SG-1 UK US 87 1.78%
VOTE! 11. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 72 1.48%
VOTE! 12. Laramie UK US 71 1.46%
VOTE! 13. House UK US 70 1.44%
VOTE! 14. Home and Away 69 1.41%
VOTE! 15. Law & Order: Criminal Intent UK US 69 1.41%
VOTE! 16. NCIS UK US 65 1.33%
VOTE! 17. Simon & Simon 65 1.33%
VOTE! 18. The Simpsons UK US 63 1.29%
VOTE! 19. Battlestar Galactica (2004) UK US 59 1.21%
VOTE! 20. Neighbours UK US 58 1.19%
VOTE! 21. Emmerdale UK 45 0.92%
VOTE! 22. Angel UK US 43 0.88%
VOTE! 23. Prison Break UK US 40 0.82%
VOTE! 24. Futurama UK US 37 0.76%
VOTE! 25. Supernatural UK US 35 0.72%
VOTE! 26. Rome UK US 32 0.66%
VOTE! 27. Doctor Who (2005) UK US 31 0.64%
VOTE! 28. Gilmore Girls UK US 28 0.57%
VOTE! 29. Mister Rogers' Neighborhood UK US 28 0.57%
VOTE! 30. Blood Ties UK 25 0.51%
VOTE! 31. 24 UK US 24 0.49%
VOTE! 32. Babylon 5 UK US 24 0.49%
VOTE! 33. Yes, Minister UK US 23 0.47%
VOTE! 34. Ally McBeal UK US 21 0.43%
VOTE! 35. Antiques Roadshow US 20 0.41%
VOTE! 36. Stargate Atlantis UK US 20 0.41%
VOTE! 37. Veronica Mars UK US 15 0.31%
VOTE! 38. SpongeBob SquarePants UK US 14 0.29%
VOTE! 39. Lost UK US 11 0.23%
VOTE! 40. Journeyman 10 0.21%
VOTE! 41. Starsky & Hutch UK US 10 0.21%
VOTE! 42. The Office UK US 10 0.21%
VOTE! 43. X-Men UK US 10 0.21%
VOTE! 44. Hustle UK US 9 0.18%
VOTE! 45. Family Guy UK US 8 0.16%
VOTE! 46. Ghost Hunters UK US 8 0.16%
VOTE! 47. Jonathan Creek UK US 8 0.16%
VOTE! 48. Smallville UK US 8 0.16%
VOTE! 49. Cops 7 0.14%
VOTE! 50. Naruto UK US 7 0.14%




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Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:11 AM

MYSERENITYBF


Vote #2:

Firefly 615
Jericho 609

Vump!

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:49 AM

SUASOR


Those radioactive scamps are now ahead 628-617. We're still a contender for this week. We'll just wear them down. And when you see votes go up in increments of six, it means someone is using the no-cookies cheat.

Meanwhile, we made a breakthrough at weekinwhedon, getting below a thousand votes behind (987, while at the end of August we were 1157 behind). In the last 24 hours, we got in 38 votes, while the Angelites, all two of them, got in two. Every vote counts here.

On the eastern front, BBC got some heavy action (mostly from Browncoats) in the last 24 hours; 41 votes. Another few days like that and we'll have 40 percent of the vote (and Star Wars will be close to 29 percent).

We may be few, but we are mighty, and annoyingly persistent.

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:20 AM

FREEBROWNCOAT


633 to 623. Still behind, gorram it.



"Gorram it, Mal."

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:06 AM

RALLEM


Just getting into work vump and somebody must have been busy because we are actually ahead for a short while.



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Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:26 AM

RAYCHEETAH


VOTE! 1. Firefly UK US 640 12.71%
VOTE! 2. Jericho 635 12.61%

I don't cheat when I vote, VUMP!

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:05 AM

SISTER


I don't, either Ray - vump

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:06 AM

RALLEM


I technically do cheat according to the rules someone wrote down yesterday where they felt it was only right to vote once every six hours no matter how many computers you own or whether you use the cookies cheat. I nom at home early in the morning when I feed my dog her breakfast, and once before I come to work in the afternoon. At work I start the process all over gain where I nom at about 2pm and then again just before I leave for home where I nom once again. Most people get three noms in a day and in my method I get in five.



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Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:19 AM

MYSERENITYBF


Vote #3:

1. Firefly 652
2. Jericho 644

Vump!

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:22 PM

RALLEM


Getting ready for home vump



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Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:01 PM

RAYCHEETAH



Total Votes

Percent

Graph
VOTE! 1. Firefly UK US 674 12.84%
VOTE! 2. Jericho 669 12.74%

The only way we maintain the moral high ground is for all of us to strictly adhere to the rules as stated, letter AND intent.

If any of us votes on TV Tally more than ONCE in any given six-hour period, that's cheating. We know the rules, and so do our opponents. The question is, do we allow ourselves to rationalize the same sort of loopholes that they do, and sink to their level, or do we do our best according to the rules, and win because we have the numbers of devoted fans to get the votes to do it?

Even if Jericho does (inevitably) get more votes than we do at the end of the week, we know that their vote total is not only suspect, but substantially tainted. How do we know this? I'll be showing you all how I know this in the next day or two, once I collate the data I've collected.

Again, there are definitely also Rangers who have stated that they only cast the allowed number of votes, so not all Jericho voters are behind this (nor do there need to be many, to boost their score ahead of ours whenever they fall behind us).

Bottom line is, currently, it will be impossible for Firefly to "win" based on the numbers which post on TV Tally. If they cheat, they win. If we cheat, then it becomes a war of cheaters, and completely pointless. If we don't cheat, we can ignore their score completely, since it is invalidated by their actions, and WE win.

Or, we can just walk away and let them have their little poll. I'd as soon make 'em sweat, and show 'em what we can do with REAL numbers.

Still only casting legitimate, 6-hour votes, VUMP!

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:15 PM

SISTER


I am as well; but have to admit that for Rich's poll I did vote on my home computer then go to work and vote there most of the day - then at home in the evening. I guess that was a form of cheating in a sense. Now that I don't work - I only have the one computer to vote once every six hours.

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:19 PM

FREEBROWNCOAT


681 FIREFLY
669 Jericho

Absolutely thrilled we are ahead but have to admit to suspicions on cheating.

It does feel shiny to be ahead once again.

"I call this a win."

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:24 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Sister:
I am as well; but have to admit that for Rich's poll I did vote on my home computer then go to work and vote there most of the day - then at home in the evening. I guess that was a form of cheating in a sense. Now that I don't work - I only have the one computer to vote once every six hours.



Nope, not cheating.

Just a continuation of your legitimate voting day, once per hour.

BUMP!

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:15 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Raycheetah:

Total Votes

Percent

Graph
VOTE! 1. Firefly UK US 674 12.84%
VOTE! 2. Jericho 669 12.74%



VOTE! 1. Jericho 693 12.91%
VOTE! 2. Firefly UK US 690 12.86%

A gain of 16 Firefly votes vs. 24 Jericho in 3 hours 14 minutes.

Non-voting data-BUMP!

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:05 PM

MYSERENITYBF


Vote #1 at TVTally:

1. Angel 1 11.11%
2. Bonanza 1 11.11%
3. Buffy the Vampire Slayer 1 11.11%
4. Captain Scarlet 1 11.11%
5. Deadwood 1 11.11%
6. Doctor Who 1 11.11%
7. Firefly 1 11.11%

Vump!

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Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:09 PM

RAYCHEETAH


VOTE! 1. Firefly UK US 2 16.67%
VOTE! 2. Angel UK US 1 8.33%
VOTE! 3. Babylon 5 UK US 1 8.33%
VOTE! 4. Bonanza UK US 1 8.33%
VOTE! 5. Buffy UK US 1 8.33%

Doesn't look like the Rangers are up and running, yet; the changeover must have just happened, VUMP!

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Monday, September 22, 2008 2:02 AM

SISTER


vumpin on a monday - g'morning!

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Monday, September 22, 2008 3:09 AM

KC5F


Jericho's prolific TvTally voter posted she would be "voting for a while" and within ten minutes their count went up by 20... So the current counts:

1. Jericho 24 14.37%
2. The X-Files 19 11.38%
3. Firefly 18 10.78%

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Monday, September 22, 2008 5:55 AM

TRAEVYNN


Integrity vote at TVTally!
1. Jericho 43 15.3%
2. Firefly UK US 41 14.59%

Autumn returns in
3....
2....
1


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Monday, September 22, 2008 7:18 AM

MYSERENITYBF


Vote #2:

1. The X-Files 55 17.19%
2. Firefly 43 13.44%
3. Jericho 43 13.44%

Vump!

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Monday, September 22, 2008 7:29 AM

SUASOR


If it isn't one thing, it's another;


1. The X-Files UK US 55 17.19%
2. Firefly UK US 43 13.44%
3. Jericho 43 13.44%
4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer UK US 15 4.69%

About this cheating thing. If you are one of those people (and they do exist) who have their browsers set to no cookies, and they find that they can vote for Firefly six times every six hours, is that cheating? Can't it be considered a reward for withdrawing from the corrupt and much abused cookie culture?

Meanwhile, progress is being made at weekinwhedon, where we have closed the gap to 958 votes behind in the last 24 hours (from 987). In that period, there were 15 votes for Angel, but 48 for Firefly. We are not only mighty, but we are more numerous.

Same thing at BBC, where 44 votes were cast in the last 24 hours, most of them for Firefly. We at 39.91 percent, SW is at 30.63 percent (which is still more than they deserve.

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Monday, September 22, 2008 8:23 AM

RALLEM


Just getting into work vump. Sorry I was unable to help this morning but I had to take care of pre op lab work for an operation next week.



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Monday, September 22, 2008 8:51 AM

FREEBROWNCOAT


Rallem: Best of luck next week and let us know how you are doing.

Did we win the week at TVTALLY?

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Monday, September 22, 2008 9:16 AM

RAYCHEETAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Suasor:


About this cheating thing. If you are one of those people (and they do exist) who have their browsers set to no cookies, and they find that they can vote for Firefly six times every six hours, is that cheating? Can't it be considered a reward for withdrawing from the corrupt and much abused cookie culture?



That sure would seem to be the rationalization that I discovered in my research into the Jericho voting; they clearly have no compunctions about emptying the cookie jar to vote as often as they deem necessary.

Gorram right it's cheating, whether done for The X Files, Jericho, or Firefly!

VOTE! 1. The X-Files UK US 62 16.27%
VOTE! 2. Firefly UK US 61 16.01%
VOTE! 3. Jericho 51 13.39%

To cast more than your fair share of votes (i.e. once every six hours) is theft! It's stealing victory from those who vote honestly, cookies or no, VUMP!

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Monday, September 22, 2008 11:52 AM

TRAEVYNN


2nd 6 hour vote on the Tally site today. I'm on a roll now!

1. Firefly UK US 71 14.85%
2. The X-Files UK US 68 14.23%
3. Jericho 66 13.81%


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Monday, September 22, 2008 2:20 PM

RAYCHEETAH


VOTE! 1. Firefly UK US 77 14.67%
VOTE! 2. Jericho 75 14.29%
VOTE! 3. X-Files UK US 74 14.1%

Non-voting info-BUMP!

I'm about done collating my info on Jericho's voting tactics. Anyone who would like a copy, please PM me with an email addy, and I'll send it along as soon as it's done. It's a bit longish, but the most pertinent points are highlighted in bold, including editorial remarks, and I think everyone here with an interest in voting, and TV Tally, in particular, will find it revelatory. I will probably also be posting some screen caps which document the info, but I haven't yet whittled down the selection to upload yet.

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Monday, September 22, 2008 3:37 PM

RALLEM


Getting ready for home vump



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Monday, September 22, 2008 3:37 PM

RALLEM


Getting ready for home vump



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Monday, September 22, 2008 5:08 PM

FREEBROWNCOAT


87 FIREFLY
82 Jericho

Looks like a shiny start to me!

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Monday, September 22, 2008 5:33 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Alright. Just in case there are any vumpers here who are in doubt that Jericho's consistent success on TV Tally results from anything less that pristine voting, here are a few screen caps for you, from their own voting thread, on CBS...

This is one Ranger's question about the validity of using the method their vote-leader, Tothal, cooked up for them to use on TV Tally, to get as many votes as they needed to stay ahead:


It is worth noting that Flowerlady, the other voting ringleader, reassured Tapsel that it was, indeed, alright to use a method that allowed one to vote more than once every six hours.

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Monday, September 22, 2008 5:40 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Here's a screen cap of instructions for the technologically-limited voters who, despite a lack of facility with downloading programs, still wanted a way to get more votes in on TV Tally:



This is Tothal admonishing Flowerlady to be vigilant over TV Tally's status:



This is Flowerlady's reply:



With only 1 vote/6 hours, you either vote enough, or you don't. How do you "Take care" of the voting on TV Tally... Unless...



...You cast more than one vote at a time.


As for how, well, there are a variety of combinations of browsers and specialty programs which allow automated deletion of cookies, which pretty much gives one carte blanche on the less-well protected polls to cast as many votes as desired:



...When they work.

There are tons more posts of their efforts to cheat on other polls, including the happily-received autovoter on TV Vote, which they all swore up and down they didn't know was against the rules when Rich busted 'em.

Pretty sad, but that's the path down which I would hate to see us go. Let's keep to the straight and narrow, with hard-earned victories, not cheating to win at any cost.

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Monday, September 22, 2008 6:20 PM

RAYCHEETAH


VOTE! 1. Jericho 100 15.41%
VOTE! 2. Firefly UK US 90 13.87%
VOTE! 3. X-Files UK US 82 12.63%

And away we go, BUMP!

Again, any vumpers who want a copy of the complete documentation (in text) of what my research revealed, PM me with your email addy, and I'll get it out to you. Prepare to be mightily annoyed by some of what you read.

On the other hand, please don't tar all Rangers with this brush; most of 'em wouldn't cheat just to win an internet poll. They're mostly the same as we are, and we have a lot in common.

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Monday, September 22, 2008 10:01 PM

MYSERENITYBF


Vote #1 at TVTally for today:

1. Jericho 107 14.54%
2. Firefly 106 14.4%

ETA:

Plus a vote at weekinwhedon:

Angel 24046 47.5%
Firefly 23112 45.6%

sg-news:

Firefly 2159 28.1%
Stargate SG-1 2017 26.2%

BBC poll and space.com.

Vump!

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Monday, September 22, 2008 10:36 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Quote:

Originally posted by MySerenityBF:
Vote #1 at TVTally for today:

1. Jericho 107 14.54%
2. Firefly 106 14.4%

ETA:

Plus a vote at weekinwhedon:

Angel 24046 47.5%
Firefly 23112 45.6%

sg-news:

Firefly 2159 28.1%
Stargate SG-1 2017 26.2%

BBC poll and space.com.

Vump!



VOTE! 1. Firefly UK US 107 14.34%
VOTE! 2. Jericho 107 14.34%
VOTE! 3. X-Files UK US 83 11.13%

VUMP!

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:53 AM

RALLEM


Good morning vump. Ray that report you sent to me, what program did you write it on? My computer could not recognize the file extension.

VOTE! 1. Jericho 110 14.1%
VOTE! 2. Firefly UK US 108 13.85%
VOTE! 3. The X-Files UK US 83 10.64%
VOTE! 4. Bonanza UK US 32 4.1%
VOTE! 5. Buffy the Vampire Slayer UK US 29 3.72%
VOTE! 6. Miracles 29 3.72%
VOTE! 7. Trapper John, M.D. 22 2.82%
VOTE! 8. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 14 1.79%
VOTE! 9. Laramie UK US 13 1.67%
VOTE! 10. Stargate SG-1 UK US 13 1.67%
VOTE! 11. Wonderfalls UK US 13 1.67%
VOTE! 12. Babylon 5 UK US 12 1.54%
VOTE! 13. Farscape UK US 12 1.54%
VOTE! 14. Home and Away 12 1.54%
VOTE! 15. NCIS UK US 11 1.41%
VOTE! 16. Simon & Simon 10 1.28%
VOTE! 17. Supernatural UK US 10 1.28%
VOTE! 18. Emmerdale UK 9 1.15%
VOTE! 19. House UK US 9 1.15%
VOTE! 20. Neighbours UK US 9 1.15%
VOTE! 21. The Simpsons UK US 9 1.15%
VOTE! 22. Gilmore Girls UK US 8 1.03%
VOTE! 23. Futurama UK US 7 0.9%
VOTE! 24. Veronica Mars UK US 7 0.9%
VOTE! 25. Mister Rogers' Neighborhood UK US 6 0.77%
VOTE! 26. 24 UK US 5 0.64%
VOTE! 27. Blood Ties UK 5 0.64%
VOTE! 28. Prison Break UK US 5 0.64%
VOTE! 29. Angel UK US 4 0.51%
VOTE! 30. Rome UK US 4 0.51%
VOTE! 31. Battlestar Galactica (2004) UK US 3 0.38%
VOTE! 32. Doctor Who UK US 3 0.38%
VOTE! 33. Knight Rider UK US 3 0.38%
VOTE! 34. Mr. Bean UK US 3 0.38%
VOTE! 35. Roswell UK US 3 0.38%
VOTE! 36. Smallville UK US 3 0.38%
VOTE! 37. Ally McBeal UK US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 38. Antiques Roadshow US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 39. Blue Heelers 2 0.26%
VOTE! 40. Brainiac: History Abuse 2 0.26%
VOTE! 41. Dallas UK US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 42. Deadwood UK US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 43. Death Note US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 44. Degrassi: The Next Generation US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 45. Due South UK US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 46. Ghost Hunters UK US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 47. Hardware 2 0.26%
VOTE! 48. Lexx UK US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 49. Pokémon UK US 2 0.26%
VOTE! 50. Queer As Folk UK US 2 0.26%




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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:21 AM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."


Firefly 112
jericho 111


My vote pushed us to the top, for now anyway.


Ray,
I agree about getting a kitty when you get to Hawaii, I hear that they have a problem with strays over there. I am glad that the restrictions on bringing animals in is a little better.
How long have you been planning on moving there? I know jobs are very scarce, I understand that if you are related to an Islander your job prospects are better, jobs go to family. My biggest problem when I was thinksing of moving was finding a job, none were available.

Vote and Bump....everybody have a great day!!!


Chaplain of the 76th Independant Battalion


...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:58 AM

SISTER


good morning, vump - coffee, please.

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:06 AM

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