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Imponderables: Work Abolition

POSTED BY: NVGHOSTRIDER
UPDATED: Monday, April 13, 2009 07:49
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Monday, April 6, 2009 9:15 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Dreaming of sandy beaches and grilling meat.

Previous thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=37496&m=691495#691495

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Monday, April 6, 2009 9:18 AM

WAKEUPSOON


FIRSTIES! && Lets get the abolition in progress (:

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Monday, April 6, 2009 9:34 AM

FREELANCERTEX


XD jeez is it that bad of a monday?


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Monday, April 6, 2009 9:40 AM

WAKEUPSOON


Not really ... its the Easter Holidays for me. xD
BUT I do have to go in tomorrow for 'Easter School' (more like prison) ...

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Monday, April 6, 2009 9:40 AM

HOBBLEIT


I had a good monday. but i still think work should be abolished

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Monday, April 6, 2009 9:42 AM

MSA


Yes it's that bad... actually the whole week is filled with late nights and early morning meetings ( which is worse for me since I have an hour commute each way)

ok must go eat

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 9:53 AM

FREELANCERTEX


oh noooo ><;; cant u claim maternity release from meetings? XP


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Monday, April 6, 2009 10:49 AM

MSA


LOL yeah right.. as I am running most of them and the one teaching the trainings.. not so much
Plus maternity leave is for when you have the baby, not before
It's just another pregnancy joy:) ( goes well with the having to get up and go to work daily while feeling like you have the worst stomach flu of your life that never goes away:)


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Monday, April 6, 2009 11:01 AM

FREELANCERTEX


not *leave* just release from the meetings XD
'forty week flu' XD i think it was zeek who said that.


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Monday, April 6, 2009 11:05 AM

ZEEK


I'm thinking we need to take back some of our congratulations and send MsA condolences instead.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 11:46 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


No way. She insists that it is not as hard as she is making it and that everyone else she knows had easier pregnancies and complained very little.

Of course many of them weren't putting up with children on the hard side of dealings and adults who should already know how to deal with them. Some of them weren't working at all and others had a much better support systems than long distance family, bratty dogs, and a husband that can be doing more.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 2:02 PM

FREELANCERTEX


*hugs MsA and NV*

so here's a ponder: subliminal fireflyization. is it possible?
i've been trying to convert my boyfriend forever, but he refuses to watch and the episodes he *does* catch when he walks in and im watching he's all 'meh' about. i dont know why, cuz i havent met a single person yet who doesnt like the series.
I've quoted firefly a lot around him, and i mean a *lot* just in casual conversation, and he's always been able to catch the quotes (it usually goes *quote* bf: "..thats a firefly quote isnt it?")
well, the other day he was over at my house, and i cant for the life of me remember what we were watching, but my dad says something, then the bf quoted Jayne. i can't for the life of me remember the exact phrase (i'll have to go back and watch the series again to pick it out), but i turned to him with a smile and said 'thanks Jayne.' he looks at me funny and i tell him, 'you just quoted Jayne word for word from Firefly.' course he flips out because he 'hates' that show.
then, a few days later, we're reclining in bed watching a movie, and i'm tired so i turn over and close my eyes. he pushes me to try to keep me awake. i groan, he goes, 'come on. sleepiness is weakness of character.' so i smiled, looked up at him, and said 'thanks Wash.' i couldnt stop giggling, and when he gave me a weird look again i said 'u just quoted Wash from Firefly.' and he flips out again "THAT'S TWICE!!"
i think i might be able to convert him this way XD lolz
i wonder if i can get him to quote the whole crew...


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Monday, April 6, 2009 2:06 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


What are his political leanings? Is he a very religious person? Was the humor gene smacked out of him by an oppressive parent? He's with you so I assume he isn'y sly. Does he prefer soy over beef?

Just curious.

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Monday, April 6, 2009 2:11 PM

FREELANCERTEX


lol, he has a pretty good (albeit sarcastic at times) sense of humor, he's conservative, not very religious (at least that ive been able to tell thus far), waaaaaaaaaaaaay prefers beef over soy XD
for some reason he just cant get into firefly. but i still think the random quoting is hilarious.
oh, and he's never. ever. seen a single star wars movie, not even the original trilogy.




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Monday, April 6, 2009 3:22 PM

MSA


Well you could look at him say don't you want to watch Firefly and then when he says no say "remember that sex we were going to have ever again??" Once he watches it, he'll be powerless


NV

I love how he says he could be doing more as he worked all day came home did dishes and is cooking dinner.. and what did I do...sit on the couch and drink ginger ale... he definitely could not be doing any more! He's sooooooo amazingly supportive and helpful and sweet:)

Really I'm ok it's just the throwing up and constant nausea... other than that and the lack of sleep it's all good:) And I'm informed it may improve shortly

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Monday, April 6, 2009 3:35 PM

FREELANCERTEX


LOLZ. he'd probably argue his way into only having to watch one episode, he's that much against it @_@


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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 1:19 AM

RIPWASH


Hmmmmm . . . . then you'd have to be REAL careful as to which episode you showed him.

My wife was iffy on watching it, but as I said in another thread, she's hooked on Nathan Fillion because of "Castle". That got her more interested in "Firefly". She got up to "Safe" and kinda buggered out on me with "Out of Gas" (my favorite episode ). She said it was too weird for her. I really want to get her to "Ariel" because the scenes where the crew is learning the medical jargon just gets funnier every time I see it. "We applied them electrodes!"

The up side is that my wife loves the BDM line from "Safe". She keeps saying, "What comes after 'Big damn heroes' again?" Ain't we just!

I'll get her hooked yet. My problem is telling the same people over and over again to watch it and they just . . . won't. Grrrrr.

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 2:48 AM

FREELANCERTEX


lolz i have the same issue with a friend of mine. she found Nathan through Dr. Horrible, then started watching Castle when it came on, now she's tryna go back through Firefly cuz of Nathan. she watched Serenity Parts 1&2 and was like 'i am so confused' "about what?" 'just...everything, i guess?' "i could try to break it down for u.." 'its just, its so complex. i'll have to watch it again.'
this is why i'd rather watch it with my friends there so if they have a question they wont be lost ><;; course i dont know if she was trying to watch and write a paper at the same time, which might be reason for confusion :\ hopefully i can get her to watch more.

as for the bf, @_@ i'll have to keep pushing, though that hasnt worked with star wars yet -_-''
he's very stubborn.


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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 4:49 AM

ZEEK


I really don't know about people who don't like Firefly. I just can't see how a person could watch it and not get something out of it? Every single episode has it's hilarious moments. Even if you hate the plot the funny should be enough to redeem it. I don't know if I could date someone who wasn't willing to give it a fair shot. That's one thing that I think really hurts Joss. It's like he intentionally weeds out closed minded people from his audience. With Buffy he was basically saying "if you can't get past vampires or the goofy name Buffy then I don't want you watching my show anyway". Which is all well and good if you didn't need ratings to keep a show alive. Bah!

So, FLT tell the bf I think he's closed minded and not good enough for you. :-P See if that helps.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 5:21 AM

CELLARDOOR


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
I really don't know about people who don't like Firefly. I just can't see how a person could watch it and not get something out of it? Every single episode has it's hilarious moments. Even if you hate the plot the funny should be enough to redeem it. I don't know if I could date someone who wasn't willing to give it a fair shot. That's one thing that I think really hurts Joss. It's like he intentionally weeds out closed minded people from his audience. With Buffy he was basically saying "if you can't get past vampires or the goofy name Buffy then I don't want you watching my show anyway".



Hrm, so I need to get past the goofy name Buffy and actually watch a few episodes of the show...? *sigh* I didn't know her name was a test of my resolve. Vampires I'm ok with.

But yeah, totally agree with all you said about Firefly here, Zeek!

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 5:52 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Okay, I get how people could miss and not watch Firefly. But Star Wars? Really?

I thought it was the "I'm too cool to watch Science Fiction" mentality that kept people away from such things. But I kinda figured out underlaying reasons. Homophobia, emotional insecurity, and ignorance.

Okay, I might be reaching, but the biggest homophobes are the people who are insecure with their own feelings and fear becoming "one of them". Whether it be s sci-fi geek or flaming homosexual those people only see their exaggerated sides.

I hate Will and Grace. That damn show perputrated a crime against gay people and the non-gays who love them. It tells America that it is okay to stick your big gay ass in anyones face who does not agree with you.

It is not okay. I don't walk around slapping women in the face with my schlong because I'm the consumate tough guy. I won't belittle another man because of his average (of which he's been told is small by the media) penis. I have no reason to tell a woman her breasts are too small and her rear is too large. And I won't walk around bashing gay people because they don't do it "the way Gawd intended".

The emotional content that remains in the media is really one of the last true forms of expression we have left. Oral tradition is all but dead since we now have easy internet access (Blashemy, I know) and stupid text speak. I have kids in my facility that read at a fourth grade level. I see kids who have trouble communicating an opposing teams position on the field. And we all know the kid who cannot spit a sentance without a cuss word.

And now we suffer the "reality" shows of the day. I'm still determined to find the patterns in Idol and Survivor that make people dumber than they already are. Funny, American Idol. Idol: an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed. American Idol: Distracting people from how shitty we really are. I love George Carlins bit on Americas wars with brown people. First it was this group of people then that group of people. Soon it will be all those groups against America. We're already outnumbered. Distract from that.

Like I said; reaching. But the issues we refuse to face in person do find a way in somewhere eventually. Speaking from personal experience I can say that I have dealt with many issues through various forms of media. Leaving friends behind, issues with my father and lack thereof, coming to terms with my sins, they have all been translated through film and TV in some form. I'm glad to have faced tham and will be eternally grateful to the makers of those things for bringing them up.

What are the issues people are unwilling to face at the request of the people that love them? That may be the question of the day.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 6:18 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
I don't walk around slapping women in the face with my schlong because I'm the consumate tough guy.


Is there something wrong with that? Cause I gotta plead ignorance here. I thought that was acceptable behavior. If that's not the case then I apologize to the countless women whom I've schlong slapped. :-P

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 6:54 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Meh, it's meant more as an analogy for being sexually overbearing. Not that all guys who sleep with a lot of women and gloat about it are secretly gay, but I know some who are. They just can't be bothered with being themselves openly because they live in a ranching community and have family in higher social standing. Good thing for them there is a Navy base nearby huh.

I was really hating on someone yesterday morning. Stupid dreams can do that. Good thing I have a wife that makes stuff better. I might have to reciprocate some hurt on someone who deserves it.





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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 7:10 AM

ZEEK


I know. I get what you're saying too. I really couldn't stand Will and Grace. I thought it was a sad commentary on us that the show was so popular.

I remember making fun of Star Wars as a kid. I thought it was just a movie for nerds. The I saw it on video and was like "dang this is awesome" and I slowly realized I'm a nerd. Browncoats are pretty much a bunch of nerds and they're great people. I think that one of the best parts of browncoats is how open and inviting they are. That's part of why I'm not so sure about people who don't like Firefly. I think it reflects more on who they are than on the show.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 7:14 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I've met a ton of non-nerd fans. It speaks to people of many different times and places.

But then again everyone has their little nerdy quirks.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 7:42 AM

ZEEK


Yeah I don't mean all out nerds who go to conventions, but still most fans have some nerd tendencies. And I'm talking the strong fans not just someone who enjoyed Firefly. At least in my experience that's the case.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 7:48 AM

MSA


Zeek your shlong slapping comment just made my day. I laughed so hard that more than a dozen people rushed int o see what was so funny.. so I read them your post and they all started laughing and quite a few of them dashed away to email otehrs... you've sent a laugh rippling through a whole school district! Go Zeek

NV you're all articulate... are you naked?? : blush:

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 8:29 AM

ZEEK


I try to do what I can.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 8:37 AM

WAKEUPSOON


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
NV you're all articulate... are you naked??


TMI MsA! Some of us are still innocent ... *averts eyes*

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 8:57 AM

MSA


HUGS WuS sorry sweety

HUGS Zeek

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 11:05 AM

WAKEUPSOON


Tehe .. I was only Joking .. I'm not that innocent tbh ... ;)

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 11:18 AM

MSA


In that case let me see if I can find those pictures....

LOL just kidding...giggle

Hey I'm trying your strawberry vanilla smoothy tomorrow:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 11:21 AM

WAKEUPSOON


PLEASE! NO PICTURES!!

&& yay! Its yummy .. :) && healthy (dependent on how much Ice Cream you add :P)

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:16 PM

MSA


LOL no ice cream... organic yogurt:) Have to be careful what I eat as I am the only source of nourishment for Peanut:)

OMG if only I had loads of money.... I want so much to bid on lunch with Nathan Fillion..... sigh

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:18 PM

WAKEUPSOON


I'm sure Peanut like's Ice Cream :) lol

&& me too! x3

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:36 PM

MSA


oh sure, but the point is to nourish Peanut...so it's yogurt time:)
I'm a very strict mommy... healthy first:)

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:40 PM

WAKEUPSOON


Sweets later, then? xD

I gots my first Easter Egg todayyy .. Thorntons (YUM!) && it has my name on it .. :D

Unfortunately, there's a melted hole on the front of it .. but that avoided my name. PLUS it did leave a rather pretty effect ..

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 1:14 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I've been waiting for Easter Egg Reeces Peanut Butter Cups.

Lots of peanut butter, lots of chocolate. MMMMMM

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 1:14 PM

MSA


No taunting me with real sweets... I live in the US there are no decent sweets here...sigh I would KILL for some Sainsbury's butter fudge

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 3:26 PM

NAVYSEILS


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
sigh I would KILL for some Sainsbury's butter fudge




Maybe some particularly awesome guy that happens to live close to a sainsubry's store could bring over a bag or two in exchange for some kind of deal which involves not picking on Navy til he's in the curtains.

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Tuesday, April 7, 2009 4:48 PM

FREELANCERTEX


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek: I really don't know about people who don't like Firefly. I just can't see how a person could watch it and not get something out of it? Every single episode has it's hilarious moments. Even if you hate the plot the funny should be enough to redeem it. I don't know if I could date someone who wasn't willing to give it a fair shot. That's one thing that I think really hurts Joss. It's like he intentionally weeds out closed minded people from his audience. With Buffy he was basically saying "if you can't get past vampires or the goofy name Buffy then I don't want you watching my show anyway". Which is all well and good if you didn't need ratings to keep a show alive. Bah!

So, FLT tell the bf I think he's closed minded and not good enough for you. :-P See if that helps.


lol, i know, i know, i can't see why he won't watch it either ><;; its just not his type. 'sides i was dating him before i got into firefly *hugs bf closer* i accept his flaws ^_^

Quote:

Originally posted by NVGhostRider: Okay, I get how people could miss and not watch Firefly. But Star Wars? Really?

yeah...even his brother's seen it (the rest of his family hasnt) but when i hit him with that he just shrugged. dunno how much his brother liked it. theyre monty python ppl, not sci fi ppl. i love him anyway :P


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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 4:40 AM

MSA


HUGS Navy...hmmm now there's a bribe:)




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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 4:54 AM

FREELANCERTEX


what pray tell is sainsbury butter fudge?


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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:30 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Still looking to abolish this whole work nonsense.

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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 8:17 AM

FREELANCERTEX


cheer up NV its wednesday ^_^


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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:01 AM

CORNCOBB


Yep, get rid of it all. Having to work to survive? Hmm. That was a dodgy and stupid idea to begin with. And look where it's gotten us - global recession! Down with the capitalist pig-dogs, I say!


"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:50 AM

MSA


oooh Sainsburys is a market found only int he UK... they have butter fudge... sort of like toffee flavoured ( flavour is really hard to describe) fudge ( no chocolate flavour at all) is truly truly nummy....

NV



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:23 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
fudge ( no chocolate flavour at all) is truly truly nummy....


It's funny, cause when most people think of fudge they think of chocolate. When I think of fudge the texture comes to mind.

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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:26 AM

NAVYSEILS


To me when I think of fudge I think of the squishy tan-coloured cubes of awesome, chocolate doesn't come into it.

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Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:31 AM

MSA


oh yes... the squishy tan cubes of awesome...stupid American supermarkets with no proper sweets. I shall now pout

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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