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Browncoat HQ?

POSTED BY: SERENITYNOW
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Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:09 AM

SERENITYNOW


Do the Browncoats have any sort of central leadership? I know there are nationwide events (like the Chicago Shindig in 9/04) but is there any kind of linkage between the different regional branches? I only ask because the Star Wars garrisons are really well organized, which helps them as a group (not that THEY need it).

It would also help to have a browncoat central command website, so that lone fans can find local groups easier. I'm not trying to pull an Alliance here, I just think the more mobilization, the better, and for that we need a little organization.

I've seen a lot of people say that fans have dropped out of the Fight because they just aren't aware of the fan movement--there are even people who don't know about the DVDs. I know I want to do everything I can, but I suspect there are efforts out there I'm not aware of, either. Having a central place to go--as well as scattered fan sites and groups--would help get us all on the same page.

So--do we have something like this already? And if not, well, what do you all say to setting one up? Or is it not necessary? I know there's a core group of people who have done amazing things (the Variety ad among them) but the rest of us are having a hard time getting involved. It's kind of an amorphous movement.

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:16 AM

HOTPOINT


Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:
Do the Browncoats have any sort of central leadership?

It would also help to have a browncoat central command website, so that lone fans can find local groups easier.



I think a more decentralised model would be more in keeping with the Firefly image myself.

Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:

I'm not trying to pull an Alliance here



That's what they all say

One of the three biggest lie in the 'Verse: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help"

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:07 AM

SERENITYNOW


That's hardly fair and certainly a trollish response. After all, didn't the Browncoats go all the way as to have, like, a military structure and everything? So it's totally in keeping with their spirit.

Besides, we're talking about saving a show--which means reaching out to people. How are they going to find a local Browncoat group? I've been trying to find one without success--and there are lots of events I've missed (including the Variety ad way back), and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

In the spirit of a PG rating for this site, I'll be civil and just say: Aiyo! Ni zenme zhenme bu jiang limao ya, ni meiyou mianzi de gou pi! (Talk about the "Firefly spirit".)

Could I get a serious response to this query, please?

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:18 AM

HOTPOINT


Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:
That's hardly fair and certainly a trollish response

Could I get a serious response to this query, please?



I apologise if you took it that way but I was being serious about the Decentralised structure being preferable. For a start it stops some poor individual ending up having to do a disproportionate amount of work

I was certainly not being "trollish" at worst I was trying to be ironic and I think you were a mite oversensitive. It's the way fans take Sci-Fi so seriously that leads to them being mocked. A more light-hearted approach is preferable in all walks of life IMHO

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:35 AM

SERENITYNOW


Sorry if I was oversensitive (although "gou pi" /is/ my favorite Chinese curse and I love using it ;).) but you came off as kind of harsh. I don't mean to sound like a sci-fi geek--let's just chalk it up to the vagarities of text communcation and agree to be friends.

As for the poor individual doing a lot of work, I disagree--it's a good way to reduce the amount of work. I'm not talking about a commandant who orders people around--all I want is a central website with a listing of regional Browncoat contacts, and maybe a listing of events, but that's it. I just think it'd be nice to publicize what we're doing in a clear way so that fans can join in without having to wonder where their local group is--or if they even have one. And for groups to get a sense of what's going on in other places.

I hate it when some controlling personality decides to step in and "organize" everybody. That's not what I'm talking about. I just want fans to be able to communicate--face to face. I don't know any of you personally, and seeing as how the "MD Browncoats" thread hasn't gone anywhere, prospects aren't looking good for something happening in my area via this forum. I mean, posting stuff is nice, but I know my husband gets a lot out of his Star Wars garrison meetings and I'd like to have a Firefly group around here. And I can't be the only fan feeling alone and unsure of how to organize/find a local group.

I'd certainly be happy to do whatever work is necessary for this. Not that I want glory--if any existing people/sites are willing to do (or have done) this, all the better.

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:44 AM

HOTPOINT


Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:
let's just chalk it up to the vagarities of text communcation and agree to be friends.



Consider the hatchet buried (in some Fox Execs back)

Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:

As for the poor individual doing a lot of work, I disagree--it's a good way to reduce the amount of work. I'm not talking about a commandant who orders people around



Apologies again. When I think HQ I'm thinking command not bulletin board. (I'm now thinking nexus rather than HQ)

Strangely enough I am one of the kind of people who ends up trying to organise and order others around. I just try and keep a lid on it

The "European Browncoats" thread seemed to decent response so we might do okay over here

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:50 AM

SERENITYNOW


Quote:


Strangely enough I am one of the kind of people who ends up trying to organise and order others around. I just try and keep a lid on it



Me, too--though I hate being ordered around. ;)Which is why I haven't mentioned this until becoming exasperated by the total lack of group prospects in my area.

So--to everybody, but especially all the Uberfans (the first Browncoats) and the local Browncoat groups: what do you say on this issue?


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Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:09 AM

KANGER33


I think that it's excellent idea to have a site that lists Browncoats in different areas. Sure one can always inquire on boards, but to have a central place that everyone can go to in order to find out if there are other fans in their area would make things a lot easier. And this is a fandom that likes to meet face-to-face more than a lot of other fandoms of been a part of, so it would probably be greatly appreciated. It all depends on how many people would want to be listed. Some people are hesitant about that sora thing.

Just my $0.02.

~Nicole~

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:43 PM

SERENITYNOW


Does anyone know anything about the new website, www.browncoats.org? Maybe someone's already planning this. Anyone with inside information?

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:36 PM

RKLENSETH


www.browncoats.org has nothing to do with Firefly.

There is a www.browncoat.com but it doesn't seem to be active. I don't think there is a www.browncoats.net yet so if someone wanted to gobble up that domain then it might be for the taking to build such a database for us Browncoats out there.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:39 PM

RKLENSETH


Nevermind. It seems that www.browncoats.net has been taken and currently under construction. Not sure if it is Firefly related though.

So right now the only domain that is related to Firefly is www.browncoats.com but it is not really all that active. Though you can still sign up for the free yourname@BrownCoats.com e-mail addresses which is pretty cool and that which I use.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 7:54 PM

SERENITYNOW


So do you all think it's worthwhile to set up a browncoat directory page somewhere? We /could/ do a ".org" thing. I also think it would be a good place to list stable links for folks putting costumes together, since that's another thing people seem to be searching for. And this bulletin board eats up a lot of time searching for stuff like that, since it keeps getting pushed to the bottom of the pile.

Again--I don't want to do something that's already been done (or doesn't need to be done). Does anyone else know if this already exists somewhere?

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:00 PM

RKLENSETH


It'd be a great idea.

We could always take www.browncoatshq.org

I also think it would be a good idea to have a stable directory of Firefly links in general since it seems that a lot of Firefly sites come and go and no one ever updates their links.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:04 PM

RKLENSETH


And if you are looking for a place to host the site I might be able to set something up with the creator of www.cantr.net since I know him somewhat though there wouldn't be any promises to him hosting the site but I would be willing to ask him nicely since I know he would have such abilities to host sites.

If that is of interest to you I can get around to asking him soon and maybe get an answer by the end of this week.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:35 PM

SERENITYNOW


You're pretty shiny.

I'm also looking at this place ( http://www.fluxservices.com/) which is cheap and seems to have lots of bells and whistles. But at the moment, I don't know if there's a real need for the site yet, so it'd be nice to try it out first without spending a ton of money. (Though I would of course be willing to spend some for the good of the whole.)

At the moment, I'm trying to contact some of the Elder Fans to see if I'm stepping on any toes with this idea.


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Monday, February 16, 2004 1:33 AM

HAKEN

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Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:
At the moment, I'm trying to contact some of the Elder Fans to see if I'm stepping on any toes with this idea.



Hi. Just giving you my answer here instead of responding to your email. As far as I know, I'm pretty sure you won't be stepping on any toes--certainly not mine--for organizating a centralized Browncoat HQ. The worst that could happen is that no one will participate, which is always a possiblity with anything that's not officially sanctioned.

As far as I'm concerned, the "official" headquarter for anything having to do with Firefly will always be the Official Firefly Website (which has since gone offline) and the Official Firefly Forum, which is still going strong. A posting on there will most likely net you more than a few responses if all you want to do is to hook up with fellow browncoats in your area.

I feel a centralized governing body for Browncoats would be cool to have, especially if it's responsible for organizing things like conventions, special events, and charity work (like the recent Firefly DVD for the Troops project). In that respect, a centralized headquarter website is necessary, and there have been many "unofficial" official HQ websites in the past to organize and handle news dissemination for the various fan projects, but they remain largely transitory in nature.

As far as I know, tracking of the Firefly fan movement have been relegated to the various Firefly news website, of which FFF.NET is one of them. So there's certainly a niche to fill if your proposed site is going to cover the movement beyond just news reporting.

I hope what I said helps. And good luck with your site if you decide to start one. Every site counts and the more Firefly websites are out there, the more likely people who have never heard of Firefly will learn about it.

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Monday, February 16, 2004 3:09 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


To my knowledge there is no recognized central site or HQ persay. There are two sites that draw a lot of traffic such as this one and the official board @ http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly

The closest thing to a central site for efforts to save the show is located here : http://www.firefly-support.com

It would be nice to have a Browncoat HQ where all info from all the various sites could be compiled and everyone could meet.


"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Monday, February 16, 2004 3:53 AM

TRASK43


I think it sounds like a great idea and as long as there were enough people willing to promote it and sign up I think it could work well.

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Monday, February 16, 2004 4:46 AM

HOGHUG


A browncoats DB is a great idea and I want to help.

Has anyone tried e-mailing the owner of browncoats.com to see if they would be interested in turning over maintenance of the site to a volunteer?

It is my understanding that the site has not been updated in awhile. It's possible the founder has run out of steam and would be willing to hand over the reigns.

I am serious about wanting to help. I've been a lurker since day one and I have given my money and my postcards. Now I want to give my time.


Jeff

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Monday, February 16, 2004 4:54 AM

HOGHUG


I sent this to webmaster at browncoats.com

Is this okay?


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Fellow Browncoat,

There has been some discussion at "fireflyfans.net" that an orginized Browncoats Database would be helpful in hooking up local fans and orginizing events. To that end "browncoats.com" would be an ideal domain.

Would you have any interest in hosting such a listing, or if time or money is a concern accepting volunteer help and support in making a Browncoats listing happen?

Thank you for you time and consideration.


Keep Flying.



Jeff and Gayla Moore
jeffngayla@cox.net

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Monday, February 16, 2004 5:15 AM

SERENITYNOW


Wow! You guys are amazing!

I really want to make a top-notch site that'll pull together all the various groups--without a central leadership. Sort of a confederacy, if you know what I mean.

All of you who are interesting in helping set up and run this thing, do you want to discuss this here (so everyone else can see and comment) or by email (so that we don't annoy everybody)? My email is f3k64@yahoo.com, btw.

Who else should we be talking to on this? I've emailed the creator of this site (above--thanks, Haken!) and fireflyers.net. I can't seem to post or contact the folks at the Browncoat Ball--anyone have an address for them? I'll try to get in touch with the guys at the sites above that Browncoat1 mentioned.

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Monday, February 16, 2004 5:36 AM

TRASK43


I think it would probably be best to talk about it here for a while, as long as this thread is near the top of the list more people will hopefully get involved/interested. I'll help anyway I can but Im not so good with the technical side of things.

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Monday, February 16, 2004 5:37 AM

HOGHUG


I'll help however I can.

I'm all for keeping the posts public so that we can recruit more help.

I was thinking about this exact sort of thing when Fireflymovie.com posted its movie is a go news.

In that post there was a bit of talk about a Firefly movie browncoat launch party in NC.

I was thinking then that getting all the event news to one location for those desperate to know would be a great idea.

Instead, event and party threads are all over the place.

Put me down in the Browncoat Database:

Jeff Moore
Tulsa, OK

I would love to know if there are other Tulsa Browncoats out there.

Thanks!

Jeff

"Keep Flyin'."

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Monday, February 16, 2004 5:52 AM

RKLENSETH


I have contacted my friend about whether or not he would be against hosting other sites. I'll tell you if he'll do it as soon as I know.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:05 AM

JASONZZZ


Same org who runs browncoats.com owns browncoats.org

email is:
webmaster@browncoats.com <-- try this one...
webmaster@meyercomputer.com

http://www.browncoats.com/
Chris Meyer
Meyer Computer, Inc.
2141 W. Vineyard Street
Wailuku
96793

Oh, looks like Meyer Computers is a hosting site. So either Meyer Computers actually own both of those domains or they have clients who own the domains. I

Also, looks like the owner of browncoats.com obviously knows about this site already, vis-a-vis here:
http://www.browncoats.com/faq.php?parent=3e63f218a4d3e&line=3e546fbd26
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Quote:

Originally posted by hoghug:
I sent this to webmaster at browncoats.com

Is this okay?


**

Fellow Browncoat,

There has been some discussion at "fireflyfans.net" that an orginized Browncoats Database would be helpful in hooking up local fans and orginizing events. To that end "browncoats.com" would be an ideal domain.

Would you have any interest in hosting such a listing, or if time or money is a concern accepting volunteer help and support in making a Browncoats listing happen?

Thank you for you time and consideration.


Keep Flying.



Jeff and Gayla Moore
jeffngayla@cox.net

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Jeff



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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:14 AM

JASONZZZ



So, the obvious hasn't been asked yet. How much would it be for Haken to add two fields to the user's profile on this site:

State(or equivalent), Country you live in (but user's wouldn't have to put any if you don't want to.

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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:16 AM

HOGHUG


Thanks!

I had already sent to webmaster@browcoats.com

Went ahead and sent the same to 'webmaster@meyercomputer.com' as well.

... and I sent some cash to fireflyfans.net via paypal... always happy to help.



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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:21 AM

SERENITYNOW


Quote:

Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

State(or equivalent), Country you live in (but user's wouldn't have to put any if you don't want to.


I don't know...I was thinking more of a directory of groups, not fans. It may be that it's better to have everybody listed, but most people are wary of having too much of themselves online. I was thinking of regional group contacts--that way people can just contact their local group. What do you all think?

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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:27 AM

JASONZZZ



I was thinking that with the addition of the field, there can be a page listing by Groups who the users people are, etc.

Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

State(or equivalent), Country you live in (but user's wouldn't have to put any if you don't want to.


I don't know...I was thinking more of a directory of groups, not fans. It may be that it's better to have everybody listed, but most people are wary of having too much of themselves online. I was thinking of regional group contacts--that way people can just contact their local group. What do you all think?

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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:31 AM

HOGHUG


Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:

I don't know...I was thinking more of a directory of groups, not fans. It may be that it's better to have everybody listed, but most people are wary of having too much of themselves online. I was thinking of regional group contacts--that way people can just contact their local group. What do you all think?




A group listing doesn't have to exclude an individual listing. Individual listings could lead to the formation of new groups. Why not allow both on a strickly voluntary basis?



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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:35 AM

SERENITYNOW


Yeah, I just signed up for the M80 team for Buffy/Firefly and they asked for the zip code as a minimum, and gave an option for address/phone number.

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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:37 AM

HOGHUG


Oh, and I volunteer to be a regional contact for Oklahoma!

Jeff

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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:38 AM

JASONZZZ



That's exactly it. I was thinking of having those individual fields. Once people fill them out and if they want to join the regional groups - fill out the Group field. Then we can slice and dice the fields as we want, pull up an area listing or a group listing. Who's the contact, etc, etc.

Quote:

Originally posted by hoghug:
Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityNow:

I don't know...I was thinking more of a directory of groups, not fans. It may be that it's better to have everybody listed, but most people are wary of having too much of themselves online. I was thinking of regional group contacts--that way people can just contact their local group. What do you all think?




A group listing doesn't have to exclude an individual listing. Individual listings could lead to the formation of new groups. Why not allow both on a strickly voluntary basis?



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Monday, February 16, 2004 7:28 AM

HOGHUG


Quote:


Originally posted by SerenityNow:
Yeah, I just signed up for the M80 team for Buffy/Firefly and they asked for the zip code as a minimum, and gave an option for address/phone number.



I hadn't heard of M80 but saw it referenced on the OB under the "Browncoat HQ" thread. So, I signed up too... however, I don't see that the Firefly stuff is getting updated.

There are mentions of events on www.shindigified.com, but no specifics.

I might be interested in the TX Shindig because it's close enough to drive but there's no contact info.

A listing of groups and events with contact info doesn't appear to exist already despite those listed under the "Browncoat HQ" thread on the OB.




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Monday, February 16, 2004 2:54 PM

SERENITYNOW


Yeah--if you want to check out my thread on the official boards, the only response I got was some guy listing off those websites. The M30 one is now defunct (for the moment), the shindig one is an insider thing (with potential), and other things are like this site--dynamic so you have to keep up with it.

Other responses: another like the first one I got here (though I did /not/ fly off the handle again, thank you), someone pointing me to the browncoats.org site (ugh), and two bits of constructive criticism:

1. "I'm not directly involved with these things, but I know that there is a webring already, plus the Browncoat Foundation, which deals with charity work. So you might want to coordinate whatever you do with those people--IIRC Bluehoot does the webring, and a number of people are on the foundation's board, including Nonoluna and Rich (Sendmeawave). Shellgazer has been involved with a lot of the charity drives as well."
and
2. "Hippydog started an oversight "committee" (term used loosely) last year, you may want to contact him before reinventing the wheel."

Any suggestions on next steps (or even just a response to that board)? http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=13206.7

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:03 AM

HOGHUG


Chris of browncoats.com e-mailed me back and is indeed looking for help with the site. He directed me to this thread:

http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages/?msg=13219.1

I believe if we can help him with a little house cleaning and orginization to help get browncoats.com back on its feet that we can find a nice home for our centralized Browncoats Group database.





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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:36 AM

SERENITYNOW


Odd, the people seemed so much more open to the idea then they did when I suggested it. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm just dislikable.

Anyway, thanks Hoghug for getting the ball rolling--and thanks to Chris at browncoats.org (if he's reading) for being such an open-minded guy.

What now?

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:40 AM

SERENITYNOW


Odd, the people seemed so much more open to the idea then they did when I suggested it. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm just dislikable.

At least we know more of the story with Hippydog now.

Anyway, thanks Jeff for getting the ball rolling--and thanks to Chris at browncoats.org (if he's reading) for being such an open-minded guy.

What now?

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:50 AM

HERO


If I win tonight's lottery, I'll set us up a shiny world headquarters.

It'll have computers and secretaries and a water cooler.

H

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:15 AM

STEAMEDBAO3


I think this Idea is exactl what we all need. Let me know how I can help.

God created Mudder's Milk so the Independence wouldn't take over the 'verse.

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:45 AM

PUDOR


I've got plenty of professional webspace going spare, if you want a temporary home - didn't have time to read the whole thread, so apologies if you've already found something. (Are apologies in order? Congratulations? I don't know.)

But anyway - anyone who's willing to spearhead something, just email me and I'll give you a password to browncoats.pudor.net or whatever. On the other hand, if people are willing to put in £5 a year for a decent domain name, I'll register it and set up a new hosting account for it (I have a reseller account).

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:53 AM

SERENITYNOW


Wow. Y'all here are like angels. The guys over at the official boards are kinda dismissive. Can't some of you get over there and talk to them?

Anyway, pudor--you're really sweet. Email me (or anyone else here) if you want to get the full scoop: f3k64@yahoo.com.

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:08 AM

RKLENSETH


I don't get on the Official Firefly board unless someone directs me to a thread from here to there. I also like this kind of PHP Forum better than the one they have for the official board.

Anywys, my friend got back to me and asked me what the content would be and whether it will be free or not to the public. I told him a little about what the Browncoats were and what you guys would like to show on the website. I also figured the site would be free to the public so I told him this.

All I am waiting for now is a a response from him.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:55 AM

HOGHUG


Great! It seems like things are moving forward. Finding the place to put the info may not be as big an issue as how to collect and compile it.

What about just a "Where are you, Browncoat?" Type thread and then as people respond just poll individuals about groups in their area... as we start to pull all of this together we can form a transfer the data to our beta-website as well as collect additional data from there.

Okay? Yes? No? I've never done this kind of thing before, but always willin' to jump in with both feet.



Jeff

"... if wishes were horses we'd all be eatin' steak!"

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:02 AM

SERENITYNOW


That sounds like the right way to do it.

It's just, it's be easier to have everyone buy into the idea so that it'd work. I guess that means getting the "shindig" site people and the Browncoat Ball people, not to mention the "firefly-support" people in on it. That is, getting in touch with them and seeing to what extent they'd like to be involved--or whether we should just plan on putting a few links onto them. They seem to be the main players.

The official boards core people seem to be kinda clannish--I mean, they've got everything they need and don't see why this site is necessary. Kind of a tight group. So we may not get them to join in.

But I think we should start now by contacting the other groups. Should we divvy them up? (And does anyone know how to contact the Browncoat Ball people?)

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:19 AM

HOGHUG


I know that you got a lot of, "This is already being done." kind of thing on the OB... and that may be partially the case, but I sure didn't find a way to contact Browncoats in my area from these sites. Did you? That is the point right?

I'll e-mail everyone you mention and ask for help. If we're repeating ourselves... cool!

Redundant data is more accessible data.

If we list stuff and so does 3 other sites, so what? As long as we all share information (which I think was your point)... the overlap means that people out there looking are all the more likely to find what they're looking for.






Jeff

"... if wishes we're horses we'd all be eatin' steak!"

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:33 AM

SHINY


Let me know what I can do to help. I have managed content on my company's Web sites before.

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:06 AM

KISBUNDAS


Greetings from one of those 'shindig site' people ;-)

Here's the scoop as I see it...
We've tried getting a more ogranized group of browncoats to come together a few times in the past and there has either been a) outright opposition or b) a steady decrease in interest once something has been done.

I was most interested in seeing better organization with regard to shindig planning...everyone was throwing shindigs and people's travel resources were getting all tapped out trying to fly all over the country every other month to meet folks. There was a group of us that wanted the browncoat community to collectively adopt some planning guidelines that would allow us to throw events that could draw in 100+ browncoats rather than the 20 or so that most shindigs manage to pull in. (esp. with a movie it would be great to have the ability to have more visible shindings/conventions that might be able to attract some media attention...or at the very least register on the radar of some of the VIP's we'd love to meet). While there was some interest in a planning committee (that would include representatives from each of the major firefly fan groups) there was also a lot of outright opposition and bickering. So a group of us got together and created www.shindigified.com (a site to plan/promote shindigs) and also came up with the idea of the browncoat ball ( www.browncoatball.com) which we hope will become an annual event (held in different locations and hosted by different groups every year). Involvement with both sites is open to everyone that wants to help...but we got tired of waiting around for folks to come to a consensus on how things should be done.

I'd be happy to open up space on shindigified.com if you'd like to create a database of browncoats. I can't program it myself but I can get you the site specs so that a database could be created. In the meantime, folks are free to create new threads in the discussion forum (e.g one for different geographic areas...like DC-area browncoats, or Bay-area Browncoats, etc.) Honestly, that's how most of the shindigs got started through the official board...someone would post something like: Browncoats in the Boston Area Unite! and then folks from the Boston-area would just start posting.

All this having been said...I still think that its really important that there be some semblance of communication between the major "factions" (if you will) of Firefly fans scattered around the world. However that eventually gets done, I think that it will only make our fandom stronger :)

-Jen/kisbundas

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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:41 AM

HOGHUG


Thanks Jen!!

It is great to hear from you and we would definitly love to put some info on shidigified!!

Also, on browncoats.com as soon as Chris can get that ready!!

We can build one collective DB that can be accessed from each site. That would be possible, right?

Great to hear from you. Thanks again!!




Jeff

"... if wishes were horses we'd all be eatin' steak!"


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Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:53 AM

KISBUNDAS


Yep...depending on how the database gets built you can design front-end pages for any number of sites that could all interface with the same database. I know how this works, but sadly I don't know how to make it work. Pool your collective talent...and we can make it happen.

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