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Imponderables- That Girl ( or guy)

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:40 PM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
Well, I know people think they look like girls (which I think is pretty much plain retarded- it's pretty damn easy to tell most times), but yeah, I've seen especially girly guys drawn...





Can you tell which is a girl and which is a guy without cheating?

Protip: It's not nice to insult peoples intelligence.

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:43 PM

LEOPARDFLAN


Ack, yeah, sorry. That just gets me pretty annoyed, though (people saying manga guys look like girls)

And, the top one, right?

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:46 PM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
And, the top one, right?


Top one is what?

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:47 PM

LEOPARDFLAN


A guy?

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:49 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


I'm going back to the bar thread. Yall are bumming me out with this no chemistry thing and ambiguously gendered he-womans...



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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:52 PM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
A guy?



Correct, but you're wrong at the same time. They are both guys.

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:53 PM

LEOPARDFLAN


Yeah, but I had a tough time deciding (since you were leading me to think one of them was a girl)

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 5:58 PM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
Ack, yeah, sorry. That just gets me pretty annoyed, though (people saying manga guys look like girls)


It's like that old saying, different strokes for different folks. Just because we can sometimes tell the difference doesn't mean everyone can. We can only tell the difference because we're used to it (although Bridget being a guy shocked the hell outta me). People who don't watch much anime shouldn't be faulted if they think that, cause they sometimes do look like girls, or a bit manish girls. That's like a surgeon calling you retarded because you can't perfom surgery.

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:02 PM

LEOPARDFLAN


Heh, true... And that makes perfect sense, but it's still annoys the heck out of me... -shrug-.

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:07 PM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by LeopardFlan:
Heh, true... And that makes perfect sense, but it's still annoys the heck out of me... -shrug-.


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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:32 PM

MSA


Chemistry is definitely needed as is long term compatibility:)

Almost all mange/anime have gender neutral or ambiguous aspects

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:36 PM

SPACEANJL


Yeah, and sometimes they aren't even human. ie demon/android/dragon/undead...

I like the previous idea of playing music.tv etc as a test. That doesn't quite work for me and Husband. He is deeply scared by much of my taste. He refers to me as a 'Stealth Geek'

I look like a normal thirty-something woman on the outside. No tattoos or piercings, even. I'm usually dressed in plain jeans and tee-shirt, not even a logo. Which is why my books/media come as such a shock. We first bonded over a 'Stainless Steel Rat' quote. By the time he realized how scary I was, it was too late. He'd been suckered in by the cooking, and the fact that I looked like trouble, 'but in a good way'.

Of course, he looks like a normal guy, too. Quiet, unassuming office type. So the esoteric knife skills etc were a fun find.

This I think is a good sign of compatability, when you can ask,

'Darling, if I wanted to disable a man twice my size, what would be a good tendon to cut?"

And get an answer.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:04 AM

BRIGLAD


This talk of compatibility got me thinking about my own situation.

My Girlfriend Rose and I will have been together ten years next month.

We were introduced at a party by a mutual friends and we clicked. Neither of us will be winning any beauty contests anytime soon but we were attracted to each other right off.

We both are sci-fi geeks (Both love Trek and SW) and she's into Babylon 5 nearly as bad as I am into Firefly (She named her pet Bearded Dragon, G'Kar)

We both have friends who live in alternative lifestyles (Use your imagination) We are both into planes, trains and automobiles. When we met, I drove an ambulance and she drove a bus. I turned her on to Pink Floyd and Jimmy Buffett and she got me hooked on Metalica and Chicago (How's that for dichotomy in musical tastes?)

The list goes on. We rarely argue and Rose is also my very best friend along with being my girlfriend. Neither of us wants to do the marriage thing. I count myself one of the luckiest guys in the 'Verse.

B


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Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:50 AM

MSA


OK awwwwwwwwwww:) Sorry but that's just sweet:)

See compatibility and having the person truly know you and accept you with all your faults, quirks etc... is worth so much more than anything else:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:05 AM

ZEEK


bah Barney's philosophy is way more fun than reality. I'm sticking with Barney. He's got the better sales pitch.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:19 AM

LEOPARDFLAN


Lolz!

well, either way, the point is pretty much moot for me til I turn 18- stuck in KS, with NO guys around worth even considering... it sucks >.<

And what's worse, being here in Michigan is my only chance to get out and actually MEET a decent guy, and guess what? No guys around >.<

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:54 AM

STEAMER


You really are a lucky man, Bri. Damned lucky man. So is any guy here in the Northeast who can find a lady who loves him the same as he loves her. I hope neither of you have ever doubted your feelings or whether the other is worth the effort - if not, that makes this look gooooood.

Ten years ago, if they weren't already taken, they had career myopia and brushed aside any notion of romance. Five years ago, if they weren't already taken, they were desperate and expected to be married with a passel of critters underfoot by the end of the first year. Today, well....either they don't care about anything or they're still desperate, but only because they play the Blame Game with every guy they date and summarily break up with him, then wonder why they're still single. I just don't bother anymore.



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Thursday, June 4, 2009 10:02 AM

MSA


HUGS Steamer we have got to find you a nice girl sweety:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 10:36 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Steamer:
Ten years ago, if they weren't already taken, they had career myopia and brushed aside any notion of romance. Five years ago, if they weren't already taken, they were desperate and expected to be married with a passel of critters underfoot by the end of the first year. Today, well....either they don't care about anything or they're still desperate, but only because they play the Blame Game with every guy they date and summarily break up with him, then wonder why they're still single. I just don't bother anymore.



Um, ouch.

I guess this is similar to:

Ten years ago, if they weren't already taken they wanted to play the field and exercise their options. holding out for the beautiful girl. Five years ago, if they weren't already taken, they wanted someone to take care of them, clean their place, cook for them, play mom. Today, they are desperate or pathetic, wanting the 20-something instead of someone they could have a real relationship with?

There may be some truth in both of our assessments, but eesh...anytime the problem lays all with one gender, someone isn't looking at the whole picture. I'm sort of hoping that someone recently stepped on your heart and that isn't the way you always feel. (edited to add: I don't really hope that...but it might explain, yes?)

Rugbug - who is single, doesn't want a passel of children (or even one), and is hopefully not too bitter that the men in my age range seem to think they should be dating college students.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:09 AM

MSA


Well part of your problem is you live in California Rugbug.... the spores have gotten to them:)

Seriously you are gorgeous, funny, smart, loads of fun and you love Firefly... you're practically perfect....hmmmmm Steamer you too busy for a quick trip to California??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:12 AM

ZEEK


The thing I find funny is shows like Seinfeld or Friends where you see this 30 somethings dating someone new like every week. Like everyone they approach is attractive and single at that age. I didn't realize how silly that was when I was younger watching those shows.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:19 AM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


I admit I thought life in my 20's was going to be like that too. I'd be dating around and didn't care what happened and I'd just meet this plethora of single eligible guys...

I was watching Home Improvement (which is quite sexist if you ask me, but that's for a different time). Anyways, it really bugs me that the boys are only 12 or 13 and they are dating around as much as they do in Friends and Seinfeld!



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Thursday, June 4, 2009 11:39 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Well part of your problem



Oh, I've got many problems other than where I live.

Probably the biggest is I've never been a 'must-be-in-a-relationship' type. It's awfully hard to find something if you're not looking for it, now isn't it? :D


and as always, MsA, you're much too kind. I need a little personal MsA cheerleader for "those" days.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:02 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Probably the biggest is I've never been a 'must-be-in-a-relationship' type.


That's the biggie for me too. I'm not putting much effort into finding someone cause it's just not very high on my priority list. Sometimes I even wonder if I'd be willing to make time for someone else in my life. I really like the freedom to do what I want when I want. Being on vacation or home for the holidays gets on my nerves pretty quickly because I have to adjust to other people's wants and needs.

So, yeah not really actively on the hunt. If someone falls in my lap and they're sufficiently hot to make up for their crazy then I'll deal with it then.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:14 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


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So, yeah not really actively on the hunt. If someone falls in my lap and they're sufficiently hot to make up for their crazy then I'll deal with it then.


Ones and fives tend to disappear quickly for this very reason.

Honestly, they are all crazy. The question is "What degree of crazy are you capable of dealing with?"

This goes both way ladies and gentlemen.

I noticed the "dating" around happening on Home Improvement as well. But in real life I see that behavior more with girls than I do boys. At the same time I've seen/heard boys talk the very same way girls talk when they figure no one is listening. I think it is a factor of maturity. Sadly many people never out grow it.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:14 PM

MSA


OK but I'm tell you you're really really missing out.... a great relationship is the best thing EVER!


and now if my husband would just get home and take these m&m's away from me

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:27 PM

NAVYSEILS


If part of a good relationship involves having to go home to take all of your womans M&Ms, I very much look forward to that part.

I want M&Ms.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:34 PM

MSA


LOL Navy it also involves such perilous duty as finishing 1/2 of various dinners she can't finish, eating more than half of shared desserts, and when she's pregnant, drinking extra 'cause she can't

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:42 PM

NAVYSEILS


hmm... well this shared desserts thing sounds iffy, thems my desserts!!! But all in all it seems relationships would improve my food intake. Might need to consider one sometime.

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Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:47 PM

MSA


That it will Navy:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:13 PM

STEAMER


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Ten years ago, if they weren't already taken they wanted to play the field and exercise their options. holding out for the beautiful girl. Five years ago, if they weren't already taken, they wanted someone to take care of them, clean their place, cook for them, play mom. Today, they are desperate or pathetic, wanting the 20-something instead of someone they could have a real relationship with?



Actually, I think that's quite a valid assessment. I've seen too much of it from my fellow men over the years (esp. the recent ones) and been like, I hope you know you're making all us nice guys look bad, too. Most everybody's got baggage when they get into a coupling. Everybody's got shortcomings no matter what. The question is, how tolerant is each body going to be of the other's shortcomings? How forgiving? How supportive? And when a problem comes up, does one person really deserve all the blame, or is it something both parties should sit down and work out? I think we'll find that it's the latter, 97.835% of the time.

Quote:

There may be some truth in both of our assessments, but eesh...anytime the problem lays all with one gender, someone isn't looking at the whole picture. I'm sort of hoping that someone recently stepped on your heart and that isn't the way you always feel. (edited to add: I don't really hope that...but it might explain, yes?)


It does, because that's unfortunately true. And my ex was just the type to lay all the blame at my door whenever there was a problem. I can't deny that I had issues as well and they didn't do much to smoothe things over, but my approach was 'forgive and forget' whereas hers was 'blame and begrudge'. You'd have to ask her for her side of the story, though. Stories, like relationships, all have two sides, without which there's no new leaf to turn over.




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Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:35 PM

FLATTOP


From a hanging in Grandmother's kitchen:
Too little to save
Too much to dump
That's what made
This housewife plump


When we go out to dinner, if Mrs. Me passes on desert, but I want one, sometimes I order two & know I'll get to eat half of the one we share and all of the other

When she was pregnant with Mini-Me, I gave up smoking (was planning to quit anyway, that was a great reason to) & drinking to show solidarity with her. Once the baby was born, never really went back to either one except on rare occasions.
The thought of being fuzzy headed & making a mistake while taking care of the baby scared the want of liquor right out of me.
Dying of cancer before meeting my great-grandchildren solved the tobacco issue. No assurance I'll make it that long anyway, but I've reduced by 1 the number of things that may take me out.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 4:41 AM

MSA


HUGS Steamer and Rugbug... You are both fantastic people I am sure you will find someone who can properly appreciate that:)

Good dessert strategy Flattop:) That was sweet of you to show some solidarity for her:0

I don't mind at all that NV drinks though as I keep telling him he's drinking for two....Actually I don't missed drinking, do miss caffeine though( and getting a decent nights sleep)


oooh good ponder... What bad habit would you like to give up??

I'd like to give up my habit of dealing with a bad day by eating something sugar filled

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 5:00 AM

NAVYSEILS


I'd like to give up my bad habit of giving up everything...

I need to start doing things more than I need to give up things. Recently gave up on my donut addiction, that was probably my worst habit.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 5:46 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good fresh doughnuts are few and far between here. Luckily on our trip to Oroville there is a doughnut shop next to the family diner we eat breakfast at. MSA can always get fresh from Reno, but I do like browsing the racks. So much color and variety. MMmmmmmmm...

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Friday, June 5, 2009 6:21 AM

WAKEUPSOON


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
oooh good ponder... What bad habit would you like to give up??

Biting my nails! Definitely .. I can't help it - I do it without thinking - but it still annoys me!

&& Navy, I could never give up donuts! There's a stall in the city centre where I go to college that does those mini ones made right there and covered in sugar, and my friend pointed out how good they are dipped in McFlurrys ... *drools* Actually amazing!

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Friday, June 5, 2009 6:33 AM

ZEEK


I have the bad habit of not going to the doctor for regular check ups. I haven't been to the doctor's in years as is. Mainly because I don't want to find out my cholesterol is through the roof or my blood pressure is crazy. What I don't know can't hurt me right? Or at least it can't make me change my routine that I'm accustomed to.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 8:20 AM

MSA


Right Zeek... just keep thinking that. Then you to can die like Jim Hensen from a totally cureable disease if you catch it in time.

Pout NV got doughnuts... sigh

HUGS WuS my college had this cafe where they made fresh jelly doughnuts with homemade raspberry jam.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 8:34 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Right Zeek... just keep thinking that.


Done. Thanks for the advice.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 8:57 AM

MSA


Don't make me slap you....

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Friday, June 5, 2009 9:37 AM

STEAMER


My worst bad habit that I really should give up? I'll tell you tomorrow. Actually, no, I'll tell you day after tomorrow.

Can you guess what it is yet?

Okay, I hate guessing games so I'll just tell you. PROCRASTINATION!!! Ta-daaahhhh!!!!



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Friday, June 5, 2009 9:42 AM

MSA




To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Friday, June 5, 2009 10:59 AM

WAKEUPSOON


Hugs to Zeek, Steamer && MsA .. that is one of the cutest LOLcats I've ever seen! Thats one of my bad habits too :/ && woah those donuts sound AMAZING. Theres a place in town called 'FOOD' that does huge donuts with so much filling they end up on your shoes! Plus, theres loads of choice .. so. many. varieties. x3

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Friday, June 5, 2009 11:20 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I'm a sucker for all kinds...

...of doughnuts.

Not big on the kind with filling for some reason. And though MSA loves eclairs I just ain't that into them. Cake doughnuts are usually my contraband of choice. The local Mexican bakery/grill has a good assortment of Mexican style pastries and cakes. My favorite is a lighter corn cake. I compared it to the cake used for pineapple upside down cake with less butter and sugar. Just enough sweet to make me happy. Everyone gushes about Krispy Kreme. To me it is like comparing Mc Donalds to a Vortex Burger. Similarities end at the name "hamburger".

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Friday, June 5, 2009 11:23 AM

WAKEUPSOON


They've started doing Krispy Kremes at TESCO now (supermarket which appears everywhere in the UK) whenever I've been on your side of the pond, I've preferred Tim Hortons .. I do spend most of my time on your continent in Canada .. and I love their Honey Crullers.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 12:02 PM

MSA


The only reason neither of you love Kirspy Kreme is you've not had them hot and fresh.. they are soooooooooo good then

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 12:07 PM

WAKEUPSOON


They don't do them warm and fresh over here tho :(

OMG I just found out that Nathan Fillion is in Milton Keynes this weekend at collectors mania! WOW! Plus Leonard Nimoy, Philip Glenister, Naoko Mori AND Burn Gorman! My inner geek is screaming ..

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Friday, June 5, 2009 12:42 PM

MSA


So are you going??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 12:50 PM

WAKEUPSOON


Can't get there. :( Plus my cousin is coming from Canada this weekend, so I kinda have to see him. So gutted. But there's one in Manchester in the Summer, no confirmed guests yet, but I can get there in 20 mins. Just waiting for someone good to sign up!

~WuS
This is not my signature, I have to write this every time I post.
Smile && Nod, it makes it seem like you know what's going on.

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Friday, June 5, 2009 12:56 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Well folks, time for a new thread.

Next thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=38609

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-Loretta Lynn

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