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Which is the prettiest ship?

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Sunday, August 2, 2009 6:34 PM

CHRISISALL


The Enterprise as re-designed for the new Trek flick, or Serenity as re-designed for the movie, errr... Serenity?


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Sunday, August 2, 2009 6:59 PM

FOLLOWMAL



I'm partial to our beloved Serenity.
It's like home.
The new Enterprise is oh so cool, I didn't even mind the change from the old Enterprise look...
it's just that Serenity is somehow "alive" with a family feeling I truly value.

It's the prettiest ship IMHO...



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Sunday, August 2, 2009 7:08 PM

TUJIAOZUO


Umm... Serenity?

It's very homey and rustic and lived-in, whereas Enterprise is very.... sterile.

1. Serenity=Home,

2. Enterprise=My stint in ICU (except my pajamas weren't as nearly as cool and I didn't have warp drive)

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Sunday, August 2, 2009 7:31 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TuJiaoZuo:
2. Enterprise=My stint in ICU (except my pajamas weren't as nearly as cool and I didn't have warp drive)


LOLROTF!!!!


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Monday, August 3, 2009 1:53 AM

FILLYGIRL

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SERENITY!!!
Prettiest and she's VTOL,...Enterprise had trouble landing....


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Monday, August 3, 2009 3:07 AM

TDBROWN


The new Enterprise is pretty slick looking, but that's the problem: It looks like it should be in a very large showroom.

Our girl Serenity, on the other hand, looks like she has her sleeves rolled up for hard work, like she just got done carrying a heavy load.... which she has.

I'll take the workhorse over the showhorse every time.

-Now, as for Inara's Shuttle.... THERE is a thing of beauty!

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Monday, August 3, 2009 3:11 AM

AGENTROUKA


Moya beats them all!

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Monday, August 3, 2009 8:25 AM

JOSSISAGOD


Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Moya beats them all!



Traitor! ;) Just kidding.

Moya's lines flow a bit better, but my heart's still with Serenity.

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Monday, August 3, 2009 8:57 AM

PILOTWASH


I'm with serenity she has inner beauty and is more like home trek is more like a space station.


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Monday, August 3, 2009 11:54 AM

KINGEICHOLZ


The Enterprise is much bigger.

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Monday, August 3, 2009 12:41 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Prettiest? Enterprise, for sure. Any of them.

Serenity isn't a classically "pretty" ship; she's utilitarian, she's meant to get the job done. She's gotta pick up a lot of crap and get into and out of atmo'. She's a good, solid boat, but she's not a smooth, curvaceous beauty.

She's a C-47 to Enterprise's B-70. One's beautiful, but half of all of them ever built crashed horrendously, killing the crew. The other is a pilot's dream, and had a reputation for ALWAYS getting its crew and cargo where they were going.

The B-70 Valkyrie:



The C-47 Skytrain:



They're completely different ships for completely different missions.

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Monday, August 3, 2009 1:06 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
She's a C-47 to Enterprise's B-70. One's beautiful, but half of all of them ever built crashed horrendously, killing the crew. The other is a pilot's dream, and had a reputation for ALWAYS getting its crew and cargo where they were going.

The B-70 Valkyrie:



The C-47 Skytrain:



They're completely different ships for completely different missions.




...'Course , not all of that can be blamed on the Valkyries , 'cause having an F-104 roll over onto your twin vertical tails shouldn't oughta count...

Besides , flyin' a freaking bomber far in excess of Mach 2 , it's easy to get burned...

That's why there's a frickin' 'X' in front of 'B-70' ; it's just too sexy AND experimental...All hot airplanes have their developmental issues...That's why it's called ' pushing the envelope ' !

Shoulda been rated 'XXX' .

Escape capsules were a great idea , though ; an uprated version should have been standard equipment on all space shuttles...


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Monday, August 3, 2009 1:49 PM

TRAVELER


If you are going to bring up classic planes, then this is my baby.



My father was a navigator in the 8TH Air Force and this probably the version he flew in. I just remember him telling me he started flying missions after D-Day and that the Army Air Corp figured out that you save hundreds of pounds in weight if you leave off the olive drab paint. So they flew over Germany in nice bright aluminum planes.

But back to space. I go with Serenity. She stands out in a crowd of sleek vessels. And as others have said before me, Serenity can enter atmosphere and land, Enterprise always needs shuttles.


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Monday, August 3, 2009 1:52 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Traveler, my hat's off to your dad.

By the look of it, that's the "G" model, one of the later variations. Good damned plane. So freaking solid and reliable. And while not classically "pretty", they sure as hell made themselves beautiful in the eyes of their crews.

Note: The question asked was, which one's "prettiest"? On that scale, the Enterprise wins, hands down, in my book.

Now, if the question was "which one's best?" or "which one would YOU rather fly on?", I'd have honestly answered "Serenity". Better ship, better crew, more adventure.

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Monday, August 3, 2009 2:16 PM

THEREALME


Yeah, I agree. I'm in love with Serenity, but she is not a pretty ship.

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 10:53 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by TheRealMe:
Yeah, I agree. I'm in love with Serenity, but she is not a pretty ship.



"'...She may not look like much ( on the outside ),

but she's 'got it' where it counts...(inside)."



Thanks to the borate bombers for keeping the Forts in the air long enough to save...

EAA will let you fly on theirs...'Aluminum Overcast'. Will even take 'payments' ahead of time , to make it possible...It's on tour about once a year...

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 11:05 AM

ZEEK


Serenity ain't pretty. She's homely.

Enterprise is way way way prettier. It's not even a competition.

I'd rather live on Serenity though.

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 11:18 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Brings back lots of memories...

I used to see Seventeens out by the early I-5 in California's central valley , up around Tulare...

They were 'contract' bombers that were employed by CDF and the USFS to control wildfires...

First time I saw a 17 in action , we had a grass fire that had pretty near gotten to everyplace outside the town limits in V-ville , NorCal...

I saw the Boeing and was impressed by the elegance and the mightiness of it , and it was plainly laboring along with a big load of retardant on board...

A mile-square hay field bordered our little neighborhood , and most of it had burnt flat already...

Then the Fort came along , and with just one load of orange erupting out of the bomb bay , extinguished the remains of the fire before it got any closer...

The plows and the tractors had given us a chance , and bought some time , but the Boeing got the fire out for good...It was beauty in action .

Coincidentally , last time I saw a B-17 at work someplace besides an airshow , it was also working a fire...

The BirdDog L-19's and the T-34 Beech Mentors were flying scout and lead , but the -17 did the dirty work , as usual...

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 11:41 AM

TRAVELER


I live in Wisconsin and went to the EAA Air Show and was able to get a walk through on a B-17. Just standing where my father was stationed, in the nose, made me dizzy. All pexiglass. No sense of being grounded. If I felt that way while the plane was sitting on the ground; I wonder how my father felt at 15,000 feet?

I won't argue that Serenity is an odd looking duck, but that orange flame when she smokes those Aliance dudes is cool. I also like that large ring that spins. I assume it matches the spin of the engine that Kaylee is always leaning into when something is broken or gummed up. Those space monkeys are hard on equipment.


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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


I live in Wisconsin and went to the EAA Air Show and was able to get a walk through on a B-17. Just standing where my father was stationed, in the nose, made me dizzy. All pexiglass. No sense of being grounded. If I felt that way while the plane was sitting on the ground; I wonder how my father felt at 15,000 feet?




More like 30,000 feet. And I know how he felt: COLD!

As for getting inside the warbirds, I grew up in San Angelo, Texas, home of Charlie Day Aircraft Refinishing - and my dad worked at the airport on weekends while he was in the military. Charlie Day was more or less the "official" aircraft painter of the Confederate Air Force when they were based out of Harlingen, in far south Texas. As a result of that, I always got to go out to the airport and crawl around in all the cool old warbirds. I got to get inside the only flying B-29 Superfortress in the world ("Fifi" is her name), crawl through the pressurized tubes that ran through the unpressurized bomb bays, climb all over a few B-17s and B-25s, and even got inside the world's only flying B-24 LIberator ("Diamond Lil"), as well as any number of Mustangs, P-40 Warhawks, a P-39 Aircobra (nice driveshaft running up between your legs on that one, since it was a mid-engined prop plane!), and a few F-4U Corsairs. Never got inside the Mosquito or the Twin Mustang they have, though. :(

It kinda spoiled me a bit, I suppose!

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 4:59 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Serenity ain't pretty. She's homely.

Enterprise is way way way prettier. It's not even a competition.

I'd rather live on Serenity though.

That's how I feel, Zeek!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 4, 2009 5:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Serenity ain't pretty. She's homely.

Enterprise is way way way prettier. It's not even a competition.

I'd rather live on Serenity though.

That's how I feel, Zeek!


The laughing Chrisisall



'Zackly.




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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 6:48 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by FollowMal:

I'm partial to our beloved Serenity.
It's like home.
The new Enterprise is oh so cool, I didn't even mind the change from the old Enterprise look...
it's just that Serenity is somehow "alive" with a family feeling I truly value.




Quote:

Originally posted by TuJiaoZuo:
Umm... Serenity?

It's very homey and rustic and lived-in, whereas Enterprise is very.... sterile.

1. Serenity=Home,

2. Enterprise=My stint in ICU (except my pajamas weren't as nearly as cool and I didn't have warp drive)





FollowMal & TuJiaoZuo nailed it on the head for me. Serenity is almost alive. She's warm, has that feeling of home, of family that appeals to me. Enterprise feels almost sterile, lifeless.

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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:25 AM

IMNOTHERE


Enterprise (new style) looks like an Apple Store.

Serenity is more like the place over a hairdresser's shop in Basingstoke where I bought my first computer in 1979.

I'm sure I had far more fun with the latter...

Plus, the NCC1701 may be glossy, but think of your bladder! At my last count, the only 3 toilets in the entire universe are on Serenity, Babylon 5 and Lexx - and you really, really wouldn't want to use the john on the Lexx .






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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:48 AM

TEXARCANA


The Narn Cruiser, or the Supermarine Spitfire.
"Our Good Girl" is the most shiny though.


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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:59 AM

IMNOTHERE


I'd have to rate the Spitfire and Concorde as the prettiest real-world aircraft.

However, I also have a soft spot for SpaceShipOne and its launcher. It looks like it ought to be in Thunderbirds except its real...

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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 12:31 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

I'd have to rate the Spitfire and Concorde as the prettiest real-world aircraft.



Hard to argue with either of those choices!

Let's not forget the Avro Vulcan bomber:



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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 1:18 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by ImNotHere:
Enterprise (new style) looks like an Apple Store.


Apple stores are cool.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:33 PM

TEXARCANA


Of course another ehtry would be the Starship Yamato from "Star Blazers":


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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:36 PM

TEXARCANA


Another selection for sheer retro-powered fun would be the Starship Yamato from "Star Blazers":


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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Battleships are so 20th century...


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Thursday, August 6, 2009 4:33 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by TexArcana:
Of course another ehtry would be the Starship Yamato from "Star Blazers":

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So Shiny!

Love me some Star Blazers! Been watching the dvds again lately. Just finished up the Quest for Iscandar series.

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Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:27 AM

TEXARCANA


Sorry about the gorram'd double post up there guys.
My cortex connection has been wonky of late.
I don't know about y'all; but I have spent a lot of time re-building the Higaran Empire in one of these:

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