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Imponderables: Life, Sex & Pizza are all dictated by the stars

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 17:31
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Monday, January 25, 2010 9:39 AM

FREELANCERTEX


ew haggis sorry, never could get used to the stuff. have been to my fair share of Burns dinners though, I was wondering when it was coming round again.

Ok, how come I can see the picture Navy posted, but not the picture Roxy posted? This does not compute. though that football field nacho-y food thing looks awesome. *tummy reminds self she hasn't eaten today* shut uuuuuup.

Avery: you can *hear* the rain here, pounding on the effing walls. I'm kinda hopin' we lose power so we can go home :P *evil grin*

feel better Navy :(


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Monday, January 25, 2010 9:46 AM

NAVYSEILS


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:

Ok, how come I can see the picture Navy posted, but not the picture Roxy posted? This does not compute. g



Cause Roxy didn't post a picture, she posted a youtube vid. I didn't even see that till now, I was on my cell earlier.

Those do look pretty good, can I come over for superbowl day Roxy? I'll bring wavy chocolate bars and Irn Bru.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 9:59 AM

FREELANCERTEX


gooooooooooootcha. well the server blocks youtube as well :( I'm still baffled that I can see the football field food though; I can't see anybody's avatars or sigs (or pics, when they are posteed) from this network, but I can see that. *intrigued look*


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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:04 AM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


I can't see Roxys vid either. I saw the football field, but I can't now. Also the user pics are loading hella slow for me. I think its what we get for "working"

I wanted to see if I can whip up some beanless chili for ..whenever that game is.


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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:05 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
gooooooooooootcha. well the server blocks youtube as well :( I'm still baffled that I can see the football field food though; I can't see anybody's avatars or sigs (or pics, when they are posteed) from this network, but I can see that. *intrigued look*


Don't say things like that. It just makes me get all devious and think about PMing a bunch of people so we can all play a joke on you about some pic that we all think is amazing. Maybe a set photo from the filming of Serenity 2 :-P

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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:20 AM

FREELANCERTEX


see when people mention films I usually go searching to confirm it before responding :P

besides, it's late enough in the day that I'd wait till I get home to see if the pic will load (which is what I normally do when at work and someone posts a pic), so on this particular day such actions would be fruitless, I'm afraid lol. I promise to roll my eyes and scoff if the event actually happens though ;)

Avery: beanless chili? do share.


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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:29 AM

NAVYSEILS


Quote:

Originally posted by averyfinecompanion:

beanless chili <---!!!




Which is of course, normal chili. The only way chili should ever be made. Why would you go and ruin delicious, spicy, meaty goodness with beans? Blech.

Crazy peoples in this world.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:32 AM

FREELANCERTEX


I've only ever had chili *with* beans I'm afraid :\ and I'm not a huge fan of kidney beans, so I've always contemplated beanless chili.


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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:42 AM

MSA


Hey quit with the bacon cheeseburgers and nifty superbowl food... lady trying to lose baby weight over here:)

HUGS Roxy total sympathy sweety Baby Johnny's teathing and NV and I are getting no sleep. Poor little guy is just miserable. He'll chew his bib and look so sad and make the most pitiful keening noises. Breaks your heart:( I hope your hubby feels better soon

Oh and I have the recipe for Bao to make for your superbowl joy

Navy I am still working on the microwave shepherds pie:) HUGS



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:43 AM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Actually in chili cook offs I've seen on TV beans weren't allowed. So I too like to think that its the best, purest form of chili. I can't be bothered to wiki the history of it on this computer because it would probably be less time consuming to actualy go to Mexico and ask the oldest person there (stupid slow work network).

I don't actually have a recipe, but I know its out there. I will let you guys know when I do and there may be pictures of the finished product.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:54 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
see when people mention films I usually go searching to confirm it before responding :P

besides, it's late enough in the day that I'd wait till I get home to see if the pic will load


Oh it would take way more planning than could be done today. Gotta wait until you least expect it and come up with something good. Mwuahahahaha

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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:03 AM

FREELANCERTEX


*sigh* you people and your evil ways ;) *suspicious stare*

Avery: interesting.

MsA: aaw poor John :( my cousins were huge fans of the refrigeratable teething rings when their little ones were at that stage.


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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:11 AM

MSA


Avery sweety I'll send you a recipe if that helps


Also FLT - hot wings recipe

Bake 1 pound chicken wings at 350 degrees until done. Then in large frying pan place about 1/4 cup oil and heat til shimmering. Fry wings on both sides until golden brown. In large bowl mix 1/2 stick butter melted and about 3 tbs hot sauce ( Tobasco if you like lower levels of heat, but you can work up from there) whisk and add 1 tsp lemon juice and 1 tbs garlic powder whisk again and dump the wings in the bowl and toss until coated:) You can double or triple this recipe as you need and add mroe hot sauce if you like. To take it down a notch just buy chipotle peppers in adobo and put only the adobo sauce in with the butter:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:12 AM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Hey quit with the bacon cheeseburgers and nifty superbowl food... lady trying to lose baby weight over here:)



They don't put calories in food on holidays (super bowl sunday included) It's like illegal or something...

Quote:

Baby Johnny's teathing and NV and I are getting no sleep. Poor little guy is just miserable. He'll chew his bib and look so sad and make the most pitiful keening noises. Breaks your heart


Aww thats so sad. Poor baby John. Don't they have that ointment stuff for that? Or is it all icky and we don't want to use it?


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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:22 AM

FREELANCERTEX


*writes this down* I shall have to try it ^_^ (I bought some hot wings sauce a little while ago to make wings because we don't really have any good restaurants around here. sauce was a little ew.)

Quote:

Originally posted by AVeryFineCompanion: They don't put calories in food on holidays (super bowl sunday included) It's like illegal or something...
that is classic.

omgggggggggggggggggggg almost quitting time ><;;; *starts hopping up and down in chair*


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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:23 AM

MSA


Oh we used the oragel ointment and cool teething rings and baby tylenol... but basically having sharp objects slowly pushed through your gums hurts no matter what. Hee'll be ok and so will we it's just a rough couple of months.

LOL on the superbowl calorie thing... does my scale know not to count it??



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:28 AM

NAVYSEILS


See the thing is that nobody tells the scales so as not to hurt their feelings. You just don't step on them till a little after the holiday...

And I don't know about the others, but I want this bao recipe. That stuff was pretty awesome the last time I had it.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 12:25 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Home!!

And off to stupid class.. Ugh!!! I hate these stupid unnecessary classes. What the fuck is library literacy anyways!? Are they going to teach me how to read a library?

I worked in one for 3 years so I know how a library works for those of you smart asses who are going to throw any library science or dewey decimal system things at me. Yes thats right! I said Dewy Decimal. How long has it been since you heard that!?

Bah...


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Monday, January 25, 2010 12:32 PM

TRAVELER


PLEASE!!! Everyone stop talking about food.


http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Monday, January 25, 2010 12:39 PM

MSA


LOl Avery it's the class they force everyone into having become tired of having to explain over and over again how to use the dewey decimal system and how to locate library materials.


Ok a Navy friendly Bao recipe... this should be fun. ( do they have tinned roll dough and such in the UK?)


Easy Bao
3/4 pound mince or ground meat ( best if it's pork, but beef is ok too)
1 tbs grated fresh ginger
2 tbs soy sauce
3 tbs cooking oil
3 tbs hoisin sauce
1 tbs garlic paste
2 tbs salt
1 tsp red pepper flakes
1/4 cup chopped scallions
1/4 cup water chestnuts chopped
1/2 cup shredded cabbage
Put everything in a frying pan and stir it around until the meat is brown and everything else is kind of wilted and there's hardly any liquid ( actually if it looks like there's no liquid that's better)Just put it on medium heat and keep stirring til the liquid cooks off

4 cans roll dough ( like Pilsbury crescent rolls in teh can) open and place the triangles together to form squares then roll and press them at the seam to make sure it holds. Put about 3 tbs of filling in center of square and then pull all the edges together and kind of gather it up so it looks like a little sack with a bunch at the top.Place each sack on a non stick or greased cookie sheet and when you have all the little sacks on the sheet place in oven on middle rack. On bottom rack place baking dish filled with water. Bake 350 degrees for 12-15 minutes.



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 12:45 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by averyfinecompanion:
Home!!

And off to stupid class.. Ugh!!! I hate these stupid unnecessary classes. What the fuck is library literacy anyways!? Are they going to teach me how to read a library?

I worked in one for 3 years so I know how a library works for those of you smart asses who are going to throw any library science or dewey decimal system things at me. Yes thats right! I said Dewy Decimal. How long has it been since you heard that!?

Bah...


Pssh Dewey Decimal is for amateurs. You didn't even mention microfiche! Total library newb.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 12:50 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


heh, gotta love classes with computers....

>_>

Ahh microfiche. I wanna use it and pretend I'm solving a murder...

I wish I could show you guys this syllabus. I may type some of it out for you later tonight.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 1:03 PM

NAVYSEILS


@msa: Thankyee for the recipe, I shall get it written out later and I'll try it when I become less sickly. Well I say I'll do that, it'll probably go months before I remember it, I tend to procrastinate a lot like that. The navy friendly bao will be eaten eventually though.

@avery: I hate those types of classes. I'm taking software development, I learn how to write computer programs now, and one of my required classes this year was Information Technology 1. No joke, the first exam in that class they showed us a picture of a computer and we had to pinpoint the mouse, keyboard etc.

And how hard can a library be to use? I dont know the various library systems... but if you go to the correct area and have a quick scan of the books it's not hard to work out what order they go in and where your book will be found.


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Monday, January 25, 2010 1:19 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Someone really needs to kill me...

"this is where you type the address of the site you want to go to"





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Monday, January 25, 2010 1:31 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by averyfinecompanion:
Someone really needs to kill me...




Always happy to help.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 1:35 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Thanks darlin

<-- is dead

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Monday, January 25, 2010 1:41 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:

3/4 pound mince or ground meat ( best if it's pork, but beef is ok too)

That's a big *Ewwwewue* from the veggie crowd that I guess I represent here.


The no-mammal-chewing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 25, 2010 2:17 PM

ROXYFREEFALL

Woman, you are completely off your nut.


Mmmm, MsA's recipes. I have a folder full of them and I'm always glad to add more. Also I'm so sorry poor baby John is having the teething. You guys have much more reason to complain than I do 'bout not getting sleep. I'm just being a big zombie baby, lol.

Mmmm also to beanless chili. The hubby thinks I'm crazy when he makes it and I sit there and push the beans out. I don't like beans, dammit!


Back from the docs and they changed the hubby's prescription from one med that made him feel like he was having a heart attack to three meds, one of which was $86. Screw that! Doc didn't even know if it would do him any good. Just one of those, "take it and hopefully you will get better and maybe your head won't explode", kinda deals. Pfft! This just makes me hate docs even more.

I am grateful for tonight being 24 night. Jack Bauer will ease my pain with his awesome.



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DFTBA!

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Monday, January 25, 2010 4:46 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


So I'm at the gym waiting for my tanning bed (I decided to be the only self proclaimed geek that goes tanning).

This girl is in there for 15 minutes. I didn't even know you could tan for 15 minutes w/o setting yourself on fire.

Then she walks by me and give me ... a look. One of those looks that just pisses you off.

I go in and she didn't wipe it down. Her sweaty lotion-y imprints were still on the bed.

So to the girl that gave me a dirty look after your leather face session and didn't bother wiping the bed down: You are fat and ugly. A tan isn't going to help you.

Have a good day.

/rant

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Monday, January 25, 2010 9:50 PM

BORIS


Hey MSA you're inevitably right, but according to my dear old folk's take on pizza history, although the first popular COMMERCIALLY (sorry it's in bold I couldn't do italics) known pizzas were the ones made in Naples with the tomatoes (not sauce originally) and the cheese and the bazil and the flipping in the air to stretch the dough. The flat bread with extras type, the ORIGINAL Pizza was something Sicilian peasants had adapted from the Arab versions (Pide's) many years earlier, they just didn't have a need to claim it as their own innovation unlike the bignoting Neapolitans... Italian regional rivalry can be humorous at times.
I like both types of Pizza, I just don't like too much cheese and only a thin schmeer of sauce.
Has anyone ever had Panzerotti? they are essentially a deep fried pizza turnover...utterly heavenly!

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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:35 PM

BORIS


Hey Averyfinecompanion...I hear your rant. I was at a sci fi con that James Marsters was guesting at in Sydney years ago. I was there with my good friend, and had the pleasure of meeting many like minded yet diverse people. Unfortunately there was a group of 3 Spike groupies who spent the whole day bad mouthing everyone else and giving out many of the "looks" you described.
I had done a good job of behaving myself at my friend's request (ie refraining from sicking it to the bitch-face-possie). but when I went to the bathroom, they were there reapplying their makeup. The meanest one was hurrumphing about all the freaks, geeks and nerds etc at the con and how awful it was to be around them. So I put my face close to hers and said "no amount of makeup you trowel onto your face is going to hide how truly ugly you are". she gaped and I left. later we heard one of the "mean girls" had come out of the bathroom crying. my friend was like "you did that didn't you?" "yup and I know kharma will kick my ass but it will be worth it".


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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:46 AM

FREELANCERTEX


ROFL on the bathroom story, Boris. I know it's mean to laugh at others' misfortunes, but in situations like that, I don't blame your impatience. Bravo on humbling her. If she doesnt like all of the "freaks" at cons, perhaps she shouldn't go to them.

Aaaaaaaw MsA you shouldn't have posted that Bao recipe (guess what the bf is getting for dinner sometime this week? XD). It makes me hungry and gives me the strong urge to cook.

[minirant]It sucks when you get home at the end of the day and interwebs is not working. Sucks even more when you call the cable company and they can't fix it -_- even after you've been on the phone with them for an hour. I'm mildly annoyed because I like being able to check my email (can't get to my personal email from work), but it's more frustrating because the boyfriend needed to be online in order to do his homework, and couldn't do it.[/minirant] Anyone have a dedicated sourcebox I could use? lol.


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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:47 AM

ZEEK


Morbid ponder: You hit a dog or cat or some obvious pet with your car. Do you stop to see if it's still alive? If it is still alive what do you do? What if it looks like it's clearly dying or if it looks like it's only slightly injured?

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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:56 AM

FREELANCERTEX


Is it on a highway, or a town road? If it's on a town road I'd definitely stop, rush it to an animal hospital or call animal control :( On a highway it's kind of dangerous to stop, as much as it would break my heart to hit a puppy and keep driving :'( That ponder might make me cry.


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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:09 AM

NAVYSEILS


I'd have to stop. Even if it was stone dead. If I clipped it and I could see it was running on its way little more than shocked then id move on again it'll make its way home and they can deal with minor scrapes, but if it was dead or seriously injured id take it to a vet/the owner.

I remember I killed a bird once and I stopped to dispose of it. Bagged and binned it. Left in the street there would be kids soon poking it with sticks and kicking it at each other. So the bin was a more dignified way to go.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:11 AM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


I actually saw a kitty get hit last week, she (or he) limped away. That bothered me more then when I saw a person get hit with a car, she kinda rolled on top of the hood and came back down, it wasn't some crazy gruesome horror movie accident.

Both me and the driver kept going. There are so many stray cats around it would be sort of pointless to see if it had an owner. If it was a dog I might check to see if it had tags (at a distance, I'm sort of afraid of dogs I don't know).

So even though I am a cat person. I'd check if it was a dog, not if it was a cat. Just because roaming dogs are usually lost, and cats are usually just strays.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:57 AM

ZEEK


So, this came up cause my friend read an article about a cat that got run over and it called it a "hit and run". She said there can be no such thing cause it's the owner's responsibility to keep their pets off the road. She also says that if she hit a pet she'd just keep on going cause it's not her fault.

That's just gross IMO. I don't care what the law says. That's an animal with feelings. It's owned by people who likely love the heck out of it. We live in a society. You should feel some obligation to stop and help if you can.

It's like saying you saw a robber shoot a cop and run away. You decided to just go about your business and leave the cop dying because it's the shooter's responsibility. It's preposterous.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:31 AM

FREELANCERTEX


I'd feel very responsible if I injured or killed someone's pet. That's a family member you're killing right there. I'd feel like absolute shit if someone ran over my dog and didn't have the common decency to call me and let me know/apologize.


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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:03 PM

BORIS


I'm with Freelancertex on this issue. I would be devestated if someone hit my cat and just left it there. I would always stop and see what I can do. I wouldn't sleep well if i didn't.

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:34 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
So, this came up cause my friend read an article about a cat that got run over and it called it a "hit and run". She said there can be no such thing cause it's the owner's responsibility to keep their pets off the road. She also says that if she hit a pet she'd just keep on going cause it's not her fault.



"Hit and run?" Not so much. Legally, it is the owner's responsibility to keep their animals out of the road. Your dog gets loose and causes a car accident? You can be in deep doo-doo.

Morally, if you hit an animal you should do want you can to check on it, take it to a pet emergency, etc. Don't just leave it laying there suffering. If you're on a highway...well, there's not a lot you can safely do in the situation.

If you are driving and an animal runs out...you really shouldn't swerve too much unless you are on the road alone. Injuring/killing the animal is unfortunately secondary to not causing an accident in which humans can be hurt or killed.

If the animal is a rodent, there is no moral responsiblity. It makes me sad to hit a squirrel...and I do my best to avoid them by yell at them to get them out of the road or whatevs...but if I hit it, I'm not stopping. There is one road...heading to my gym that I call "Squirrel Alley." Freaks me out when I'm riding on my scooter because those little speed bumps are going to cause me to crash with their "I'm gonna go. No, wait. I'm gonna stay. Sratch that, I'm going" decision making. They bring it on themselves.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:52 AM

FREELANCERTEX


My mom would stop for a squirrel if I let her. She feels bad about hurting any living thing, even a mouse. Our old house was infested with them (fortunately they stuck to the attic) and dad wanted to get one of those poison or snap their neck traps, mom would *not* allow it. She damn near threw a crying fit because she couldn't bear seeing them die. She pouts whenever she sees a dead deer, or whenever she hits a squirrel, gets all sad and woeful for a couple of minutes. I think she'd die of heartbreak if she ever hit a dog, regardless of whether or not the dog lived.

I feel a little bad if I hit a squirrel, but there's not much one can do when they dart in front of a car, and it's not like we can really keep them off the streets. Same thing with opossums. I don't stop for woodland creatures, sorry.


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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:04 AM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


I'm with you guys on the rodent "woodland creatures" thing. Maybe I'd feel bad for a few minutes, but eh.
I especially hate when birds walk across the street. Why do they walk!?

Though if I had mice I wouldn't get those old fashioned break neck traps. They're sort of evil and also why would you want a bunch of dead mice around? Granted you get rid of them as soon as possible but still you have to get close to them and see them all gross and corpse-ified

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:11 AM

ZEEK


I've only seen two mice in a house in my life. The first one I caught in a shoe box and dumped in our back yard. The second one was found after returning home to a bloody mess and a proud kitty. :-(

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:15 AM

MSA


Zeek I'm with you. Stop and check on it. On the highway call animal control and tell them so they can go out and help the animal.
Sadly NV once hit a cat, but in his defense the cat was genuinely suicidal and was known around the neighborhood because it would race out and throw itself in front of your car. Multiple car accidents had been caused by attempting to avoid the beastie.

For the adorably vegetarian Chrisisall... sub out the meat for morningstar farms "ground beef crumbles"


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:43 AM

FREELANCERTEX


O_O I've never known a cat (or dog) to do something like that. Weird.

Quote:

Originally posted by AVeryFineCompanion: I especially hate when birds walk across the street. Why do they walk!?
I think the SAME exact thing!!!! You have wings!! you can effing FLY across the street. you can fly ABOVE the street for cryin out loud!!

Zeek: one of my dad's dogs (one he had when he was a kid) would do that with rabbits; she'd catch em and kill em, but I'm not sure if she ever brought them home (she would do the same thing with cats--never killed one or injured one severely, mind you, but would toy with them a little bit before letting them go, similar to what a cat does with a mouse). And another dog in the neighborhood (who was alive at the same time as his rabbit dog) would do that with city rats (from what dad tells me, the rats were bigger than the dog--Pepi was a terrier of some sort) only HE would leave them on your doorstep.


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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:40 AM

NAVYSEILS


When it comes to woodland creatures, there's not much you can do. Usually they're small and squishy enough that they just die. I tend not to stop if I kill one of those. Unless it's in an area with lots of foot traffic too where kids might get at it. but usually it's not.

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:59 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Navyseils:
When it comes to woodland creatures, there's not much you can do. Usually they're small and squishy enough that they just die. I tend not to stop if I kill one of those. Unless it's in an area with lots of foot traffic too where kids might get at it. but usually it's not.



Woodland creature hater!

j/k I agree that there's not much you can do in that case most of the time. Though if I hit a deer and it was still alive and for some reason my car wasn't damaged enough for me to be forced to stop, I'd be calling the cops to have them get someone out there to take care of the situation. I don't think it would really do any good for me to stop. I don't have a gun so I can't put it out of it's misery. I don't have a car big enough to transport a deer to an animal hospital. I'd basically just be able to sit there and watch. Which would make me feel bad and probably make the deer nervous.

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM

NAVYSEILS


Well over here no one carries guns to put it out of it's misery. It would just need to wriggle in pain till a vet showed up with the eternal-sleep jab. But of course if I hit a deer I'd stop. I was talking the more squirrel and hedgehog tier of roadkill.

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:31 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Firearms are not a requirement for putting animals down. It does tend to do the same thing calling a vet or law enforcement does; kills the animal without a person having it to do it themselves.

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