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When did you know you were hooked on Firefly?

POSTED BY: SNEAKER98
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 06:49
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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 2:26 PM

SNEAKER98


I'm sure this has been done before, but I'd like to start a fresh list.

For me, hands down, it's when Serenity escapes the alliance cruiser in the pilot.

http://www.nightsoft.net/sneaker98/SerWin.mp3

The music... the visual effects... just absolutely amazing. I knew I was hooked ;)

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds


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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 2:58 PM

THUNDAR


I knew it was my kind of show at the end of "The Train Job". When Mal kicked the guy into the engine, my response was.. "This is gonna be good".

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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 3:02 PM

PHEON


I was loving the show already, but the scene Thundar just mentioned clinched it for me.

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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 3:04 PM

SOUPCATCHER


Train Job.

Crow.

Intake.

It's one of the few times in my life where I've actually said, "Oh. My. God." out loud.

We were already planning on watching the show and giving it a chance. But when I saw that scene, I knew I'd be carving out time every Friday.

Of course, we all know what happened with that.

*editted to add: looks like we're thinking alike

I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!

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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:07 PM

GOJIRO


Funny, I was just mentioning this on another thread.

The exact moment I fell for Firefly was The Train Job, in the teaser, when Mal gets thrown through the bar window -- and it turns out to be a hologram. Don't ask me why, but that's what told me the show was going to be special.

Of course, Crow going through the engine cemented it for me.

gojiro

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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:32 PM

GLICO


"Lets moon 'em" -- Jayne
gold, pure gold.

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Serenity now, insanity later...

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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:17 PM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


Quote:

Originally posted by sneaker98:
For me, hands down, it's when Serenity escapes the alliance cruiser in the pilot.



That moment really grabbed me (silence, good physics) & more than offset the poorly done battle scene intro, but I didn't decide I was hooked 'til the end of the episode. And I had watched two, previously, on VHS, but the picture was so crappy that it was impossible to fall into the story.

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Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:16 PM

COSMICFUGITIVE


I first watched Firefly with an objective mind. I'd heard a lot of good stuff about it, but wanted to see it for myself.

The humour grabbed me straight away.

In Serenity, when Mal says to Simon that Kaylee's dead, I fell for it hook, line & sinker.

(There's always someone who goes in the pilot. It's traditional.)

It was just like when Book said 'you got the wrong man'. (When Mal thought Simon was a Fed.) It was a great twist, but a cruel joke.

Wash's repetition of Simon's 'psychotic' line cracked me up too.

The humour,both light & dark, was a sign it was going to be a great show.

I also liked Jayne and Kaylee from the start.

Although, it wasn't until the end of 'Ois' that I was properly hooked. It was weird. I couldn't put my finger on it, but I knew I wanted more.

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:28 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Well, I was tuning in back when it first aired on Fox. "Train Job" was the "pilot" that Fox had Joss write in the span of a weekend and the first episode I watched.

It was fairly good until Mal kicked Crow into Serenity's port engine. That is when I busted out laughing. I was hooked from that minute on.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:31 AM

CLEANER


Same for me BC1. Can't remember a moment on TV that made me laugh so hard but at the same time I was thinking 'finally a show without all the Trek PC BS'.

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:31 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


For me it was just the "look" of he show.

It was such a relief to have sci-fi heroes' who weren't in some antiseptic uniform saluting characterless nonentities, in an antiseptic universe.

That and the fact that chinese was incorporated into the language - that is so clever.

Adam Baldwin too. So chuffed to see him in a TV show.

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:09 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Yep, kinda same here.

Crow starts on his rant, and here I was rolling my eyes thinking "Oh dear god what a horrible and overused plot device... recurring villan, yep yep, argh..."
And then Mal kicked him into the engine, and I was like WTF ?

But what killed me worse is how they went RIGHT to the next guy!
"This is all the money Niska gave us..."
You BET he was down with the program!

I about died, that was it for me, I was hooked.
(tho I was kinda way hooked in from the teaser already..)

-F

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:41 AM

ELLYDRAGON


Yep. Same moment. I mean, I liked the show before that. 'Cause, who wouldn't? But, we were watching it taped from that evening because we'd been out. And when Crawl goes *shoop* into the engine, our mouths all fell open. All four of us. And then we rewound. And rewound again. And again. I think we watched it four times in a row. Now I just watch people's faces the first time they see that episode when that scene comes up.

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:45 AM

SAKRYSTA


For me, it was in "The Train Job" right at the beginning. Once the brawl moves outside, there's a clip where Zoe throws dirt in a guy's face, and another where Mal kicks a guy in the shin. It was just so practical and unconventional a fight.

And then Serenity comes up over the cliff, and Wash says oh-so-deadpan, "Every man there go back inside, or we will blow a new crater in this little moon."

Yep, I was hooked before the fight was over.

...still a little whimsical in the brain pan...

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:57 AM

SPOOKYJESUS


I knew I was hooked when I started melting down the DVD's and injecting them into my eye balls!

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:32 AM

SHEPHERDQ


Sorry to say, I was unaware of Firefly until it hit the shelf in the store as a DVD. Even then I wondered a week what it really was before I bought it.
I was getting hooked that this would be a good thing from the start..
1 A war 500 years in the future and still using bullets and bombs instead of some fancy laser/phaser stuff. .... good
2 Silence in space ... better
3 Serenity pulling away.. beautiful ship.. getting REAL good
4 Ship passing over the scattering horses .. really really good
5 By the time the cargo was stowed .. seeing the comfort the cast had with the characters and lines... moved to great now
6 Kaylee with new words that make sense.. 'shiny' and her bubbly self .. yep yep.. rubbing hands now.
7 Small touches like the Xmas lights around what I learn later as Kaylees room .. ooo people paying attention to human details.
8 Inara and her ship.. okay this is gonna be a keeper
9 The town of Persephone OK , I give up.. Hooked

The Journey is the worthier part.
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Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:29 PM

SHUNGORILLA


The opening theme, with that bluegrassy Bright Sunny South (by AKUS) feel..

Oh yeah, and the hour-minus-commercials that follows ;)

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:40 PM

EMBERS


I was determined to watch & tape every episode
(even tho that meant staying up until midnight on the nights it was being pre-empted by a basketball game...)
but it wasn't until 'Jayne's Town' that I realized that this was right up there w/the Buffyverse...humor, excitement, AND metaphor goodness!

But it wasn't until I got the DVDs, watching them all, with the commentary, that I realized that this was Joss' best work.

Something that needed to be continued...
and I searched online to find others who felt the same way.

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:17 PM

VEARSTWIN


When I seen Jayne!

"Jayne is a girl's name"-River

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:33 PM

DESANGRO


I'm not really sure when I got hooked. . . probably close to the end of the series. I just kept watching. My aunt and uncle got hooked when I sent them the recorded VHS tapes of the original broadcast. And another uncle of mine got hooked by the third episode (I've loaned my DVD set out to my extended relations, in order to make new converts. . . ).

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:53 PM

SLOWSMURF


Is there anyone who saw the show when it first aired and DIDN'T realize they were in love with it from the engine kicking?

I think there was one person on this thread?

Yeah, I was watching not paying overly much attention(the commercials for it had almost made me not much, and my reception was terrible), but when that happened, I watched the show ever week I could.

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Thursday, September 23, 2004 6:25 PM

VELOXI


I remember the exact moment...from "Serenity"...

Mal: We can't die, Bendis, and you know why? Because we are so...very...pretty...we are just too pretty for God to let us die...

I know that, from that moment, that I was watching something special...

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Friday, September 24, 2004 1:08 AM

EVILTOBZ


over here in the uk they aired it in the proper order with a couple of episodes in a row at the start (although that might have been them showing serenity as two eps, i can't remember). being something of a joss fan at the time i decided to tape it as i wasn't going to be around when it was on. when i started to watch the tape, the way it started in the middle of the battle of serenity valley made me think i'd buggered up setting the video and started from ep2 or something, so stopped prety much instantly. stoopid me.

skip forwards a little while, the dvd set has been released, i'm watching my way through dvd sets of angel and come to accept the ultimate truth, i am a total joss whedon fanboy. so i picked up the dvd set. serenity obviously had a bunch of jossisms that made it enjoyable, but the bit where i realised it was something special was watching the cgi sequence of the reavers chasing serenity in the atmosphere. the way the camera was panning, zooming and focusing. i suddenly realised that i'd never seen anything do effects so realistically. thats what made the difference for me.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 3:22 AM

DIETCOKE


When I was catching up on earlier Buffy episodes by reading the transcripts, I kept noticing threads on the website about a show called Firefly. I found the transcripts for the show and read every one. I thought it was great so, I bought the DVD. The rest is history.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 4:39 AM

CYBERSNARK


For me it was Mal bringing back the medecine at the end of The Train Job. Mal's line about not having a choice.

I get enough self-serving, me-first, to-hell-with-the-victims in real life. I don't need to see it on TV (that's why I'm against Reality TV) I like heroes that're good guys.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 6:13 AM

MER


There was a seed from "Out of Gas" since I was so worried about Mal...seeing as how I couldn't watch the rest of the episode. That's so wrong X___X.

Anyway, I'm guessing I got hooked by the time I seen Airel and Jaynestown. Ariel made me think "Holy Crap!" and Jaynestown made me love Jayne even more

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Friday, September 24, 2004 7:07 AM

EVILTOBZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I like heroes that're good guys.


i actually like that they aren't exactly good guys. they operate in the grey, albeit with a certain moral code which makes them both real and likeable

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Friday, September 24, 2004 9:18 AM

BLINKER


A little while after "Safe," my brain put together the obvious contrast the writer was drawing between Simon's father refusing to bail him out again, and Mal 'not even liking' the guy, but doing so anyway... that's when the whole thing clicked for me. Same message as Buffy's "Family," but delivered with extra cleverness and wrapped in one of those non-linear plots I love so much.

So of course, you can imagine my response to "Out of Gas."

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Friday, September 24, 2004 9:34 AM

BRYNNMCK


Like everyone else who watched when the show first aired, I laughed my ass off when Crow gets kicked into the engine, but I was still somewhat on the fence about the show (I could definitely see its potential, but wasn't sure which way it was going to go).

I think "Our Mrs. Reynolds" (which aired 3rd, I think, originally) was the first time I really "got" the show--the conceit and the characters and the story just clicked for me.

Then I loved "Jaynestown," because it turned Jayne from what had been, to me, a pretty one-dimensional character, to... well... Jayne, in all his surprisingly complicated glory.

"Out of Gas," though, was when I really fell head over heels. Sigh. I still adore that episode, on its own merits and because I still remember that moment of, "Wow... damn."

I'm new here, BTW, so hi.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 10:59 AM

NIKNAK


I took a chance and bought the DVD having not seen any episodes so I saw Serenity first.

It grew on me gradually over the first half hour. The story and characters were great and I envied that strawberry.

Then, without warning, Kaylee got shot. That was it - I was watching a masterpiece. It stepped up into a gear I didn't know television had and Joss didn't take his foot off the gas 'til the end.

Over the next eight days I watched the whole series. Twice.

Niknak

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Friday, September 24, 2004 11:04 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave


I watched "Train Job" and couldn't get away from the feeling that something was missing. I didn't know it was the now infamous second pilot at the time. It seemed like there was too much exposition going on (i.e. Book's conversation with Mal as Mal heads up to the engine room). More than Joss Whedon is prone to. I also had a feeling I'd seen the actor playing Mal before, but I couldn't place where.

"Bushwacked" freaked me out a little, but confirmed it was a JW production. Then there was that whole "where have I seen the guy who plays Mal before" conundrum I was stuck in.

"Our Mrs. Reynolds" clinched it. In particular, that moment in the teaser where Saffron says "I'm your wife" and Mal's response is a subliminal buh-wha-huh? using only one blink of his eyes. I still fall into a fit of laughter when I see it.

AND I got the name of the actor playing Mal. I gave up trying to place him by memory, wrote down his name, went online and found out that Nathan Fillion had been the happy-go-lucky Johnny in a previous life on Two Guys and a Girl. You cannot imagine my relief. Little did I realize I was about to have the rug pulled out from under me in short order. It didn't take much. About two episodes later, gorram fox started moving it around the time grid on Fridays in favor of basketball, and I saw the beginning of the end.

That's when I went hunting voraciously online for a Firefly presence. That's how I ended up here, a war-weary veteran, retelling my story to y'all.

Keep flying.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 4:09 PM

SHAMBLEAU


When they cut away from the space cruiser to River and Simon clinging to the side of Serenity in Bushwhacked. And then cut to a shot that was farther away, and then another, until both characters were lost in the immensity of the stars and of the ship.That was an amazing sequence! And then the scene vaulted into the stratospere when it cut to River laughing at the stars.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 7:31 PM

BERENTAUR


Quote:

Originally posted by Sakrysta:
For me, it was in "The Train Job" right at the beginning. Once the brawl moves outside, there's a clip where Zoe throws dirt in a guy's face, and another where Mal kicks a guy in the shin. It was just so practical and unconventional a fight.

And then Serenity comes up over the cliff, and Wash says oh-so-deadpan, "Every man there go back inside, or we will blow a new crater in this little moon."

Yep, I was hooked before the fight was over.

...still a little whimsical in the brain pan...



I loved Washe's delivery of that line, I laughed sooo hard. One of my favourite moments ever.

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Friday, September 24, 2004 10:04 PM

SEXCHICKEN


I knew I was hooked when I watched 5 episodes of the DVD back to back just to what Joss would give us in the way of River's storyline. I don't know about you guys, but everytime I see her cry, (for fear or aggrivation), it just kills me. I'm such a sap.

Oh yeah, and when Early says, "That ain't a Shepard", in Objects in Space. I always wind up talking to the screen asking, "How do you know this?!"

We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of the dream.

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Saturday, September 25, 2004 2:53 AM

NEDWARD


Bushwhacked. Interrogation scene. Particularly Jayne. And Wash. And Jayne again.

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Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:05 AM

ZOID



sneaker98 asked:
"When did you know you were hooked on Firefly?"

My response:
Within the first five minutes of viewing, I knew I wanted more. Subsequent viewing in the following weeks cemented my addiction.

I'd call it 'love at first sight', and this is the only time I've felt this deeply about a TV serial entertainment.


v/r,

zoid

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Sunday, September 26, 2004 10:53 AM

SNEAKER98


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
I'd call it 'love at first sight', and this is the only time I've felt this deeply about a TV serial entertainment.


I agree completely. While I was watching it, I had a look very similar to Mal when he first saw Serenity...

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds

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Sunday, September 26, 2004 11:45 AM

CHARKI127


I was hooked on Firefly from Serenity part 2 when Mal shot that fed. I did not watch the original airings on TV. I was addicted to Angel and couldn't squeeze 2 series (even Joss Whedon series) into my busy schedule. I was actually relieved with the Buffy cancellation. This turned out to be supremely ironic for obvious reasons.
After the Angel cancellation (and my grieving period) I downloaded Firefly from a Buffy site. I watched Serentity 1 & 2 and realized I HAD to own the DVD set. charki

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Monday, September 27, 2004 11:18 AM

CAPNERIC


I'm in the UK, my sister in the US clued me in and I found the downloads but they were so low quality and the start of the pilot was so dark I didn't bother watching anything else. But my sister kept urging me to watch so I bought the dvd and loved it all, or course. I watched the whole thing through one weekend and then watched all the commentaries the next weekend.

...So, my family knew I was hooked from the start but I didn't realize it until I had set the theme to play repeatedly on my pc....

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Monday, September 27, 2004 1:23 PM

EMPRESSPIRK


After seeing Safe. Can’t pinpoint the exact moment or scene but at the time I was still in the process of getting to know the characters and the episode’s focus on the River/Simon relationship with the flashbacks and all made a few things clearer. I realized I cared about those characters and wanted to know more about them. I think I was somewhat hooked already even before but after Safe there was not doubt; this series was something special. (The music in that episode also helped to realize that fact)

The reason why I wasn’t hooked any sooner is because, well, I saw Firefly in Fox order and Serenity of course hadn’t aired yet and when I tried to watch the previous episodes I managed to fall asleep during most of them.

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Monday, September 27, 2004 1:39 PM

ARIA


I was hooked on Firefly before I ever saw a single episode, thanks to the enthusiam of Saxon (from the prospero forum). I knew I'd love it, ordered the DVDs immediately and was hooked from the first episode. Became a devoted Fillionaire. Knew it was all over but the shoutin' when I saw Out of Gas. The sense of humor, the clever dialogue, the fleshed out characters that I want to learn SO much more about - I'm hooked!

Anybody here in the Dallas area? Our meetup is this weekend! Come on down!

NiteOtter

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Monday, September 27, 2004 2:01 PM

THUNDAR


I'm from the Dallas area.

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Monday, September 27, 2004 2:37 PM

ARIA


Our Meetup is:

When: Saturday, October 2 at 2:00PM
Where: Juan's Hacienda
300 W Plano Pkwy
Plano TX 75075
972-578-3551

You can go to Meetup.com to RSVP. We are a small group, but a good one and we are currently planning for the Dallas ComicCon in Plano this month. Come join us!



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Monday, September 27, 2004 5:50 PM

THUNDAR


I shall try. I've been told I need to get out more

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Monday, September 27, 2004 6:32 PM

ARIA


That's one of the reasons I'm going. I tend to be a bit on the reclusive side, but I'm working on it! *L*

NiteOtter

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Monday, September 27, 2004 6:32 PM

SERGEANTX


For me, right after Train Job aired I thought it looked like something different. I logged on to this here website and heard about the unaired original pilot. After a day or two downloading it from Kazaa, I watched it and just fell in love. The pilot really showed the potential and the depth that Joss built into the series. So much better than Train Job, and I really liked Train Job. So yeah, I was hooked.

Each week after that, I downloaded the new eps and watched each one two or three times. I was amazed to see a television show that had so much to offer. I'd still be seeing new layers and hearing new lines after three viewings. ok.. I'm preaching to the choir here.....You know the rest.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:55 AM

DEBBIEBUK1


Sorry to be boring guys - but it was the bit in Train Job when Crow goes into the engine. A long- term Buffy/ Angel fan, I found the number of characters in Firefly a bit confusing in the pre-show publicity and slightly resented Joss splitting his attention, so missed the pilot when they showed it over here (UK).

But wow - still love that bit.

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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 6:42 PM

HANDMAIDENANDE


My experience was just like Niknak’s. I’m a DVD convert, so my first episode was Serenity. I thought the opening battle scene was great, and I loved the acting, writing, and production values from the start. I didn’t fall for the show completely until halfway through the pilot.

The shooting of Kaylee was the scene that did it for me. The way that tense scene played out was incredible. Acting, editing, and camera work was all top notch. Kaylee had immediately become my favorite character, and you could tell how important she was to the rest of the crew. Jayne’s protectiveness, Mal holding her hand, Inara calling her mei-mei. Book disarming Dobson was a sight to behold. And at this point you really weren’t sure about Simon. Was he a good guy? Would he actually let Kaylee die?

Of course, the subsequent “Kaylee’s dead” scene was the clincher. I remember gasping out loud because I honestly believed they had killed her off. A friend of mine always makes fun of me because of that since I completely forgot the Jewel was on the DVD box and in the credits. But that’s how wonderful the show is because you become so utterly involved in the story and the characters. Finished all the episodes in less than a weekend.

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Tuesday, September 28, 2004 6:42 PM

HANDMAIDENANDE


Whoops! Trigger finger there.

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Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by sneaker98:
For me, hands down, it's when Serenity escapes the alliance cruiser in the pilot.

The music... the visual effects... just absolutely amazing. I knew I was hooked ;)



Same here... My head always nods in time to the music at that point...

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Zoë Warren: "At last, we can retire and give up this life of crime." (after breaking into a practically empty bank safe, from the Serenity trailer.)

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