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Favourite STUNT in Firefly?

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Friday, February 25, 2005 5:46 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Hello again.

Watching Firefly again :)

Er just wondering what your favourite stunt was in Firefly?

There are some impressive action sequences throughout, but the one that makes me whince everytime is the Stuntman who takes a bullet in the knee caps from Book, during the gun fight in WAR STORIES; and it sends him falling head first onto a platform type thing, which he then proceeds to bounce off (using his head!) to the ground! Incredible!! Looks like he is really feeling that one! Anyone know who did that? That guy is amazing!

Anyway I'd love to hear what Stunts you all thought worked or didn't work on the show.

(I love stunt work - I think it's residual fascination from when I was a kid and my friends and I started a stunt club in school :)

Great times :) )

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Friday, February 25, 2005 5:51 AM

KNIBBLET


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
...just wondering what your favourite stunt was in Firefly?


Now, I'm a woman and a happily married one at that ... however, the stunt I'm most impressed with and the one I wouldn't mind auditioning for is the 'space massage'.
Poor lady was getting all mauled and bruised by Inara and pretended it didn't hurt a bit. Now *that's* acting.

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Friday, February 25, 2005 5:58 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by Knibblet:
Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
...just wondering what your favourite stunt was in Firefly?


Now, I'm a woman and a happily married one at that ... however, the stunt I'm most impressed with and the one I wouldn't mind auditioning for is the 'space massage'.
Poor lady was getting all mauled and bruised by Inara and pretended it didn't hurt a bit. Now *that's* acting.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."



Oh !

....I guess I do stunt work most nights then.



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Friday, February 25, 2005 6:19 AM

EVILTOBZ


so would i be missing the point if i said my favourite was the little fight between inara and saffron?

/letches :)

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Friday, February 25, 2005 6:27 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Nah huh. Good point - well made!

Obviously I was doing the wrong kinda stunt work at school!!! Bugger!!

:)

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Friday, February 25, 2005 6:58 AM

SHINY


Gotta love the stunts the actors do themselves without doubles.

Morena's catch of the rapier Mal tosses her in Shindig was pretty nice, although I wished they had shown the flourish she said she had been practicing in the commentary.

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Friday, February 25, 2005 4:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
just wondering what your favourite stunt was in Firefly?

There are some impressive action sequences throughout, but the one that makes me whince everytime is the Stuntman who takes a bullet in the knee caps from Book, during the gun fight in WAR STORIES; and it sends him falling head first onto a platform type thing, which he then proceeds to bounce off (using his head!) to the ground! Incredible!! Looks like he is really feeling that one!


I agree with you, Luke -- that one has Max "whince" Factor. But I enjoy a couple of gags in the bar fight intro for Shindig:
Jayne swings a pool cue, & knocks a guy for a full-layout back flip.
The classic, guy sails over the bar & smashes the mirror behind it.

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Friday, February 25, 2005 5:29 PM

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this really isn't a STUNT in the strictest sense of the term, but i really love it when the guy flies through the "window", then the window flickers and comes back.

One thing that's always bothered me is Nathan Fillon on a horse. His shoulders are all slumped and his elbows are flying around like a chickens wings and...ughh, just makes me cringe every time.

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Friday, February 25, 2005 10:42 PM

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Jayne swings a pool cue, & knocks a guy for a full-layout back flip. The classic, guy sails over the bar & smashes the mirror behind it.


That's the one I was going to mention. There are a lot of spectacular stunts in the show tho.

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Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:14 AM

PURPLEBELLY


One on the reasons I like Firefly is the lame fights - nostalgia for the TV-Westerns of the Sixties. What impresses me most is, out of a generally unathletic cast, how fast Morena can move in inappropriately tight clothes.

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Saturday, February 26, 2005 4:21 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Dunno if Tudyk did that one himself, but definate high score for getting kicked in the head by YoSafBridge..

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Saturday, February 26, 2005 4:52 AM

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i like the stunt in war stories wear nathan and alan had to pretend that they were in pain. it was kind of funny when their conversation kept getting interupted by the torture.

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Sunday, February 27, 2005 3:52 AM

INARALOVER


i really liked it in serenity (the pilot not the movie) when Simon jumped on the lawman to save River

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Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:49 AM

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Originally posted by Knibblet:

Now, I'm a woman and a happily married one at that ... however, the stunt I'm most impressed with and the one I wouldn't mind auditioning for is the 'space massage'.
Poor lady was getting all mauled and bruised by Inara and pretended it didn't hurt a bit. Now *that's* acting.





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Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:26 PM

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Great question, TheSomnambulist!!

I don't know if it was a stunt double or not but I loved everything Early did in OiS. Especially when he took out Book.

Oh, and the stunt double who took one for the team by going through the engine in Train Job .

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Monday, February 28, 2005 9:08 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Great question, TheSomnambulist!!

I don't know if it was a stunt double or not but I loved everything Early did in OiS. Especially when he took out Book.

Oh, and the stunt double who took one for the team by going through the engine in Train Job .



Yeah there are some great moves in that Episode. Also just the way Early moves is great to watch.

I always felt stunt doubles should receive better credit . So that in the titles they actually say who doubled for whom....

They seem a strangely overlooked bunch the stuntmen/stuntwomen and given that these days praise goes out to just about everyone, even PA's! You'd think there would be better coverage for the humble stunt workers.

Still I've always thought it was cool of Joss and the other creators how often they would praise Mike Massa for his stunt work on Angel!

Any more?.... Falling off a horse is so much apart of the action these days you hardly notice it but I would imagine it's bloody difficult to do? I've always whinced whenever I watch stunts on horses. Especially old westerns !!!

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 12:20 PM

CHRISISALL


i've done stunts in movies off and on (I was the guy hurled over a wall by Toxie in "Toxic Avenger 4", if you can stomach that kinda stuff) and my favorite stunt was definitly the guy flipping backwards after gettin hit with the pool cue.
The guy bouncing his head down the shaft(War Stories) was cgi. As was the guy getting sucked into the engine.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 12:59 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
i've done stunts in movies off and on (I was the guy hurled over a wall by Toxie in "Toxic Avenger 4", if you can stomach that kinda stuff) and my favorite stunt was definitly the guy flipping backwards after gettin hit with the pool cue.
The guy bouncing his head down the shaft(War Stories) was cgi. As was the guy getting sucked into the engine.

Chrisisall



Hey Cheers for giving me a reason to watch Toxic avenger 4 ! That is fantastic. Can you be more specific just in case there are lots of guys thrown over the wall!

How'd you get into stunt work anyway, and what else have you done because I'd love to check out your work.

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 6:22 PM

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One thing that's always bothered me is Nathan Fillon on a horse. His shoulders are all slumped and his elbows are flying around like a chickens wings and...ughh, just makes me cringe every time.


*Twitch. Twitch.* I agree with you completely about Nathan. I don't expect him to ride perfectly, but the horse person within wants to yell at him. 'Shoulders back! Elbows in! Heels down! Hands still!' Maybe that's my English instructor coming out more than my Western rider, though...

To be on topic...I'll add another praise for when a stunt man flips when he's hit with a pool cue. ^_^

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Tuesday, March 1, 2005 6:32 PM

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Originally posted by perididdle:
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One thing that's always bothered me is Nathan Fillon on a horse. His shoulders are all slumped and his elbows are flying around like a chickens wings and...ughh, just makes me cringe every time.


*Twitch. Twitch.* I agree with you completely about Nathan. I don't expect him to ride perfectly, but the horse person within wants to yell at him. 'Shoulders back! Elbows in! Heels down! Hands still!' Maybe that's my English instructor coming out more than my Western rider, though...




OMG, exactly! And i don't even care so much if he has pefect equitation (he is riding weastern after all) but i think every time he's on a horse he's needs to get somewhere fast (either to the ship before the reavers, or trying to catch the hover craft thing) so he needs to ride like hes going somewhere! Stand up in the sturrups, lean over the neck and RIDE LIKE YOU HAVE SOMEPLACE TO GO! He just kind of sits there like a sack of potatoes.

Sorry, rambling. But this HAS reminded me of another stunt I LOVE - in Serenity, when Mal shoots the horse and it falls over on top of, um, that woman who tries to shoot him again... Totaly drawing a blank on her name right now.

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Wednesday, March 2, 2005 11:47 AM

CHRISISALL


well Somnambulist, I grew up making super-8 movies with my pals in NY and NJ and while my life veered toward the more normal professionally, one of my friends went to Hollywood to become a stuntman and stunt co-ordinator. He would keep me in mind for stuff he was working on on the east coast, like Toxie 4.
( I'm the ONLY guy hurled over a wall in a 4 way split screen during a big fight scene, also I'm the policeman in a saturn chasing a green car, and the pedestrian who jumps out of the way of both vehicles, oh, and a nazi in the background in one scene). I also had a good fight scene in "Knight of Swords" (good luck finding THAT one).
And here's the kicker: my friend worked for the last few seasons on Buffy!!Any time you saw Sarah toss a really big baddie through the air into something chances are it was him.
uh-oh, rievers, gotta go.

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Thursday, March 3, 2005 5:25 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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well Somnambulist, I grew up making super-8 movies with my pals in NY and NJ and while my life veered toward the more normal professionally, one of my friends went to Hollywood to become a stuntman and stunt co-ordinator. He would keep me in mind for stuff he was working on on the east coast, like Toxie 4.
( I'm the ONLY guy hurled over a wall in a 4 way split screen during a big fight scene, also I'm the policeman in a saturn chasing a green car, and the pedestrian who jumps out of the way of both vehicles, oh, and a nazi in the background in one scene). I also had a good fight scene in "Knight of Swords" (good luck finding THAT one).
And here's the kicker: my friend worked for the last few seasons on Buffy!!Any time you saw Sarah toss a really big baddie through the air into something chances are it was him.
uh-oh, rievers, gotta go.

Chrisisall



Hey Chrisisall

Can I just say I'm utterly impressed :) Seriously I'm on the look out for Toxic 4 and Kinght of Sword.

I think it's so ace you being; not in just a film but actually doing stunts on them! To be honest I'm more impressed by that than I am with acting.

My ex grilfriends dad was a director of photography and a few times we'd go off to Pinewood to watch him work. Man he worked hard. On one day they were setting up a stunt, where a car had to go throught a big window, and my ex girlfriends dad had to be in the car with the stuntman to do the point of view shot! Anyway while the actors we're busy being fussed over the stuntman and my ex's dad were meticulously working out the shot and stunt, and nobody got them tea, or coffee, or anything else they desired... No they worked really hard.

Then they did the stunt and had to be there all day even after the actors had gone for stand in duties etc.

No seriously nice going. Hey, you get anymore work lemme know OK.

I'm fascinated by stunt work - as I said when I was a kid I had serious aspirations about doing stunt work. Never happened of course but the residual fascination is still with me.

Cheers for sharing.

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Thursday, March 3, 2005 12:05 PM

CHRISISALL


actually I've been into martial arts since Bruce, so my interest in stunts has always been fights, but here's an interesting note: in Toxie 4 when the car I'm chasing crashes through a big fence- it was a real fence in Poughkeepsie (spelling?) NY that no one could see from the street, so the guys behind the camers said " hey, could you just drive through it?" - of course we were game, so we did it for real and the gate went over the first car and looked like it was gonna hit my vehicle! But it missed my windshield by a good 6-7 feet.Man, it was fun. They paid me and fed me and put my name in the credits at the end and all I had to do was jump around some and drive like a idiot!!I trully envy people like my friend who can make a living having a blast.
I live in Massachussets now. Where do you reside? uh-oh, Alliance, gotta go.
p.s. the fence was trashed.

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Friday, March 4, 2005 1:22 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

actually I've been into martial arts since Bruce, so my interest in stunts has always been fights, but here's an interesting note: in Toxie 4 when the car I'm chasing crashes through a big fence- it was a real fence in Poughkeepsie (spelling?) NY that no one could see from the street, so the guys behind the camers said " hey, could you just drive through it?" - of course we were game, so we did it for real and the gate went over the first car and looked like it was gonna hit my vehicle! But it missed my windshield by a good 6-7 feet.Man, it was fun. They paid me and fed me and put my name in the credits at the end and all I had to do was jump around some and drive like a idiot!!I trully envy people like my friend who can make a living having a blast.
I live in Massachussets now. Where do you reside? uh-oh, Alliance, gotta go.
p.s. the fence was trashed.



Sounds like fun :)

Yeah I'm a huge fan of Bruce Lee, not just on the martial arts level but also the way the guy moved!!! His physique was astounding. He glided over the world.
I do Tai Chi but I've had to stop this last year fro various reasons, but I do intend to start again.
I live in England the snowy south east as it goes these days. I have a pretty cool working life I must admit, I'm a freelance cartoonist so I pretty much get to draw everyday, and occasionally I get to do more unusual arty things which is cool, so I don't have the usual nine - five, but I must admit the idea of beng a stuntman...If only. Am I too old at 34 to start ;P

When I was at school and we had the stunt club we used jump out of trees onto trees below. Now I think of it it was a really dangerous thing to do, but fun. I'd love to up the stakes and do car stunts

Oh well this weekend I'm on the hunt for Toxic 4.

Cheers Chrisisall

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Friday, March 4, 2005 11:49 AM

CHRISISALL


34 too old?! That's how old Kirk was when he assumed command of the Enterprise! The stuff you see me do in Toxie 4 were done when I was about 38. Jackie Chan's 50 and still goin' strong.
Looked at your page, your art is cool. Manga influenced, yet moe realistic. My favourite comic growing up was Master of Kung Fu (gee, wonder why), and the penciler for most of it's run is still my favourite artist to this day; Paul Gulacy...ever seen his stuff? He' doing Catwoman, do you get all our comics in the UK? I know you get all the good dvd's before we do!!
uh-oh, River and Kaylee, gotta go.


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Saturday, March 5, 2005 7:27 AM

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chrisisall wrote:
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34 too old?! That's how old Kirk was when he assumed command of the Enterprise! The stuff you see me do in Toxie 4 were done when I was about 38. Jackie Chan's 50 and still goin' strong.


Hey true - Jackie is still going strong. It is encouraging to see him so nimble I must admit. Hmmm. And you were throwing yourself around at 38. Interesting. Maybe I should look into this some more. :) I dunno anything about stunt work in England though - I'll have to do some research. Are you still doing stunts by the way?

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Looked at your page, your art is cool. Manga influenced, yet moe realistic. My favourite comic growing up was Master of Kung Fu (gee, wonder why), and the penciler for most of it's run is still my favourite artist to this day; Paul Gulacy...ever seen his stuff? He' doing Catwoman, do you get all our comics in the UK? I know you get all the good dvd's before we do!!
uh-oh, River and Kaylee, gotta go.
Chrisisall



Cheers for taking a look at the cartoons. Yeah Manga is a huge influence but the real culprit initially was watching Dangermouse, when I was a kid. Dangermouse is coooool. Then it was Asterisk and later Manga. Comic wise I'm not a good example of comic knowledge. I've read some stuff but in all honesty I've always struggled with the interpretation of the human form. It's beautiful no doubt, but I think I've never been able to relate to the styles of the superhero genre - although DareDevil I do like, but that's the narrative as opposed to the illustrations.

That said I am looking forward to 'Sin City'. It looks like a visually more acurate interpretation of the comic format.

So anyway Stunts : Y'know you've piqued my interest I may see whats whats over here. Cheers

Thanks
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Saturday, March 5, 2005 1:01 PM

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Hey guys, I'm a big Chan fan, but I must give you the bad news that he no longer does all of his own stunts and he now uses wires. A lifetime of bone-breaking stunts have taken their toll. He does what he can, but he just can't endure what he used to.

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Saturday, March 5, 2005 2:42 PM

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Yeah I saw him say as much on an interview he was giving - It's only natural I suppose. Still he's more nimble than my dad was at 50! I reckon if I get to be half that dextrous when I make a half century I'll be happy.

Ok crunch time -- favourite Jackie Chan movie?

Mine would be Operation Condor I just love that finalé in the wind tunnel so clever.

Oh I did some research about becoming a stuntman in England... and as ever; huge hierarchical climb needed. Much life on the line type stuff before you even get a sniff of obtaining an equity card .

Skills need : Scuba Diving, Parachuting, Martial arts, Gymnastics, Fencing,Horseriding etc... All I got is a win at a go-kart park....



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Saturday, March 5, 2005 9:46 PM

ANTHONYT

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My favorite Chan movie is probably Drunken Master. The fight scene at the end of that film is the most real, most visceral one I can recal from Chan.

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Saturday, March 5, 2005 9:47 PM

ANTHONYT

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(Clarification: The SECOND Drunken Master.)

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Sunday, March 6, 2005 2:04 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Hey yep! Drunken master is great!

Is it drunken master where Jackie and an old man have a duel with chopsticks over the last piece of meat at lunch? And this bit of meat goes from chopstick to the next, across the table, in and out of bowls, down a bench flipped in the air!? All extremely balletic, very funny. I think it was drunken master one or two.....

Anyways Stunts sooo cool. :)

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Sunday, March 6, 2005 8:04 AM

ANTHONYT

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Oh yeah. That was the first Drunken Master, which had plenty of ballet and physical comedy. One of his earlier films.

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Sunday, March 6, 2005 11:59 AM

CHRISISALL


Chan is my favourite, no doubt! And I WANT him to use a stunt double sometimes!! No more broken bones, please! He's more then paid his dues. The longer he makes movies the better!
Faves include: Drunken master 2, Who am I, Operation Condor, Shanghai Noon, Armour of God, Thunderbolt, Supercop and Accidental Spy(chinese version ONLY, US version cut it to shreds!!)
Favourite single fight: rooftop finale in Who am I.I always said, Bruce would beat Jackie to a pulp in the ring, BUT Jackie would win in a shopping mall! What do you think?
uh-oh, jayne, gotta go.

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Sunday, March 6, 2005 12:08 PM

CHRISISALL


Speaking of fights and stunts, how about Michelle Yeoh's fight in Tomorrow Never Dies, or the swordfight in Die Another Day? I heard Summer had to learn martial arts for Sererity, so I think we can look foward to some ass-whoopin' in the flick!
uh-oh, pressure leak, gotta go.

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Sunday, March 6, 2005 12:27 PM

CHRISISALL


By the way, if you like Bruce, check out Timecop 2
-it was choreographed by one of Lee's students and stars Jason Scott Lee, it's actually a good movie and also has a fight in it with the friend who got me work on Toxie 4- he's the guy during the prison riot who says "welcome to the party, pal" before he swings on Jason.
uh-oh, asteroid field, gotta go.

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Sunday, March 6, 2005 1:18 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Cool cheers for the heads up on timecop two. The first one was with (I just can't say his name I'm afraid.....) but Jason Scott Lee, now he's OK. He has good presence about him. I'll give that flick a go. Especially as it's got your mate in it. Ace!

As for the Bruce / Jackie debate. Well I dunno I'm just glad that in my lifetime I've been lucky enough to see both their work. Enter the Dragon actually has them both in it so that's maybe my favourite one :)

The roof fight in Who am I is very impressive - and it's funny to hear you say you wish he'd use more doubles... I've thought that . Sometimes I just can't watch those end credits coz I know they're going to show a clip where he really hurts himself! Makes me whince!!!

So Summer had to learn some fighting eh? Hmmm cool.

And your so bang on about Michelle Yeow in the bond film.... She is fantastic in that and many other films. Crouching of course and the Supercop III. She's a watchable heroine. Gives every role real class too. I like her.

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Monday, March 7, 2005 11:54 AM

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have you seen Michelle in Wing Chun? It's a silly little movie, but has some of her best moves it it! (Wing Chun is also my main style of kung fu)
uh- oh, wu-shu demons, gotta go.


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Tuesday, March 8, 2005 3:52 AM

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No I haven't seen her in that. Although a friend mentioned that very film to me a while back. I've been meaning to track it down.


Chrisisall! Behind you! Sabre weilding dwarfs!.....

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Tuesday, March 8, 2005 12:06 PM

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hkflix.com has Wing Chun for $10 US, all regions -
I read advanced sceenings of Serenity WITHOUT effects got great reactions, how can I wait 6 months?
OUCH!!! little buggers POKED ME!!
gotta go.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2005 5:01 AM

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Yeah I looked for that and your TOXIC 4 but alas over here the Wing Chung has been deleted and Toxic 4 is yet to be released.

Still they're performing a hunt for me for Wing Chun and Toxic 4 I'll be notified when they have a copy :) So I'm on track. I'm actually really looking forward to Toxic 4! (never thought I'd be saying that )

So you got any more stunt work lined up?

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Wednesday, March 9, 2005 7:30 AM

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Alas, my professional stunt days seem to be over. My friend is working exclusivly in Hollywood for now and the only stunts I'm doing are in little short videos I make with my 6 year old. Usually involving fighting giant robots ( no grand effects, just simple forced perspective).Recently his birthday party was held at his kung fu school, and I let him flip and throw me around to the surprise of the teachers.
Doctor told me 15 years ago my spine was messed up and not to expect to walk too well when I was fourty.HAH! Like to see them doctors today. I can kick well over my head- in addition to walking well. Kung fu is good for ya.
Dune-1984- extended version- anamorphic- is coming out here soon. You a fan?
uh-oh, sandworms, gotta- wait! The sabre wielding dwarves are attacking it! cool.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2005 9:24 AM

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That's a shame. But doing stunts for your kids films sounds better :)

Wish I had kids :( That's just the sort of thing I'd wanna do with my kids....And take 'em go kart racing. Kids look so cute in go karts!

However glad to hear you've defied the doctors and are still perfectly mobile. Good news. How'd you do your back injury? Wasn't a stunt was it?

I am a fan of David Lynch's DUNE I thought it is was a vastly underated sci-fi film. It's sorta Epic like I think all sci-fi- should be. Sadly there are too many low budget efforts out there. (although I am a sucka for the 50's fair!)

So yeah very interested in the widescreen re-release.

Ok I don't want to alarm you - but six o'clock! Razorbacks!!!

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Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:26 AM

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I have scholeosis ( straight/curved spine, not outwardly visible, but can be troublesome), and once I was doing a 16mm film where I had to get tossed and land upside down against a metal dumpster I misjudged and rammed it head first, leading to some micro-fractures in the cervical area aggrivated by violent head twists (taking punches) later that day. So like Jackie Chan, I could have been a little nicer to myself, but like it's said, pain is just right now; film is forever.
Yeah, I'm drooling at the release here May 10th of Dune, theatrical AND extended versions, both anamorphic! I only hope they took the ridiculous narration out of the extended one(177 min.), it was real distracting. However, the theatrical(137 min.) version has better pacing to it, I think.
I didn't mention that I draw some. I'm trying to do a graphic novel, but the story is coming very slowly. I don't like inconstantcy in a tale, therefore I keep going back over it to re-think details instead of finishing it. But it'll come, sooner or later. I'll send you a copy when I finish (this year...?). It's science fiction, of course.
I'm also waiting for a Ralph Bakshi animated film, Fire and Ice. It's not on dvd yet in the states, not 'till July or thereabouts. Have you seen it? I really like rotoscope in animated movies, gives a real immediacy to the action.
HEY! Whe'd that Razorback come from!?




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Friday, March 11, 2005 2:37 AM

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Did you know about your back trouble before doing stunts? It sounds awful but then I'm a wuss. At least I am now, but in my youth.....

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I didn't mention that I draw some. I'm trying to do a graphic novel, but the story is coming very slowly. I don't like inconstantcy in a tale, therefore I keep going back over it to re-think details instead of finishing it. But it'll come, sooner or later. I'll send you a copy when I finish (this year...?). It's science fiction, of course.


In there lies many a truth Chrisisall - I've started countless comics, graphic novels and illustrated stories - It's a problem I suffer from also. I can't stand the way when I start a comic the drawing towards the middle are of a better standard than at the start - so then I rework the beginning artwork only to feel like the ones in the middle aren't up to scratch - and hence the viscious circle begins.

The only thing I've managed to complete was a little story book of Animals going from A-Z for my niece and three nephews. That was fun.

I've written loads though - even my own mythology which I'm in the process of writing in the computer (coz I did years ago freehand). Right now I'm writing a pitch with two other friends for an idea for a TV show, which we're hoping to pass by the BBC.

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I'm also waiting for a Ralph Bakshi animated film, Fire and Ice. It's not on dvd yet in the states, not 'till July or thereabouts. Have you seen it? I really like rotoscope in animated movies, gives a real immediacy to the action.


Nope not heard of it. A while back I was really into all sorts of animation, but I kinda saturated myself with so many shorts and films that I sort of lost track of things. Still I'll keep an eye out for this. The one I'm looking forward to is Steamboy I love the stuff Studio Gibli comes out with.


Woah look out! Muppets!!!!

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:18 AM

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Steamboy, by the guy who did Akira? Looks promising. About the back... that which does not kill you makes you stronger. Sort of.
Say, do you also like Airwolf(first season) by any chance? Or Blade Runner? Or Dark Angel? Those are some of my favourites along side of Firefly.
Uh-oh, transgenic reaver replicants, gotta hit the turbo.

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:02 AM

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Airwolf I did like all those years ago - I rememeber the theme tune, it was one of the first tunes I taught myself to play when I bought a keyboard - and I love that Helicopter. WoW!

Blade runner yes but it's a mood thing. I have to be in that 'zone' when watching that film. In fact now I think about it I can't watch it with other people, it's a film I have to watch on my own.

Dark Angel - nah. This didn't do much for me, I found it a little contrived in terms of narrative, but I rememeber seeing one or two action sequences which were well done, but ultimately It didn't have enough of a draw for me.

-Racing a suped-up! honda civic at suzuka (GT4) tought track must focus.

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:27 AM

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You're right about Dark Angel, although I bought into the main character, so I let the stupid stuff slide(and there was a LOT of stupid stuff in the second season).
I used to watch Dangermouse with my stepson (I have a son and a stepson) and it was one of the few shows he watched I genuinely got a kick out of.
What ep of Firefly is your favourite?
My faves are the pilot, Ariel, and Out of Gas.
Train Job and Objects in Space are also great.
I guess Out of Gas was the one that really blew me away. Packed with backstory and real character.
Almost got me to tearin'up.
uh- oh, fire in the hole....

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:32 AM

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Yeah it was a shame about Dark Angel...

I'm so glad Dangermouse is understood in the US, because it is very British. All the accents are regional, and some of the gags were very dependent on this - so it's good to know it is appreciated universally... When I was growing up I wanted to be an animator for Cosgrove Hall - but they quit after Dangermouse I think :) Anyway....

As for favourite Eps of Firefly it's maybe in this order:
Objects in Space : The pace is beautiful , the dialogue is thoughtful and Early is simply fantastic !

Out of Gas: Masterful direction - I think this is maybe my favourite directed episode from any show of Joss. David Solomon is an unsung hero. This episode is brilliantly done - comes second only to 'Objects' on account of being a little similar in teleplay to the Angel Episode where we see Angel for the first time at the Hyperion Hotel (can't remember the title) in the 50's

Ariel The production value looks a more polished in this one, and the fact that Jayne's true intentions comes out makes it very watchable.

The Pilot Firefly for an hour and a half - can't be bad. :)

Did you ever watch a show that came out about seven or eight years ago called BRIMSTONE about a cop sent to hell after avenging the rape of his wife, but is given a second chance - by the Devil - to return to the world if he retrieves 113 escaped, damned souls and returns them back to hell?

This show was mind-blowing and unrelenting. Probably too bleak for primetime TV but it was brilliantly conceived. It had this great visual look where all the 'reds' were diminished so the world was presented through tones of blue, and green. It was very odd, but worked so well with the theme.

Sadly cancelled before it really had the chance to make it's point, but it was a great show....


"Penfold!"
"Yes DM?"
"Shush!!!"
"Oh eck!"



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Monday, March 14, 2005 10:29 AM

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I hope you guys don't mind me jumping into your conversation here :). Can't help myself.

Dark Angel, took suspension of disbelief to the limits, but I did enjoy the first season. HATED the second. Its the only series I can think of that after one season I was worried it would be cancelled and after two I was praying for it to be.

Loved Brimstone, has there ever been a better Devil?

DANGERMOUSE. Goodness I loved that show growing up. Last year I found a friend had an old VHS printing of some episodes and laughed myself silly when I borrowed them. Of course, that was nothing compared to what happened soon after. I borrowed a recording of (I believe) the original Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio show. At one point the characters end up on this Ark captained by a guy who wouldn't get out of a bathtub. I kept listening to the guy and thinking there was something familiar about the voice. I about died laughing when I realized that the voice actor was the same guy who voiced Dangermouse.

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Monday, March 14, 2005 10:54 AM

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Don't mind if another browncoat drops in.
I bought the Dark Angel dvds, so now I can watch the whole first season, and the 7 (!!!) okay episodes from the second.(I would have only bought the first, but it ends on SUCH a cliffhanger.)
Never saw Brimstone,sounds intriguing.
Here's a question: am I the only one who loved Spiderman and disliked Spiderman 2? How come Spidey didn't kill Ock with his first solid punch to the face? or second...or third...
uh-oh, Penfold, gotta go.

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