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Movies that hold up to repeate viewing

POSTED BY: SERGEANTX
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 14:26
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Monday, April 25, 2005 11:52 AM

CHRISISALL


That's wierd... Somnambulist and you both like Hudson Hawk- I own a copy myself! When they start with 'Would you rather be a fish..' I start smilin'. And the last line about seatbelts always has me wiping tears from my eyes(ha ha-tears).

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Monday, April 25, 2005 12:00 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by YT:
That's my problem with him. Repeat viewing of his films may reveal new elements to me, but the first run hasn't motivated me to pursue it. Though I did consider going to Draughtsman's Contract again, just to see if it was more enjoyable if I started the movie with some understanding of where it was going. I was attracted by his visual style but, 2001 excepted, I need to follow a story.



I guess it's like leafing through a reference book with him. You flick through spotting the things you know and then put it down. A little later you pick it up again and have another look through, only this time you know alot more and you see things in it that you didn't notice first time around - and so it goes on.

First glance of Drowing by Numbers you do notice the odd number throughout the film and then you realise
" Oh there's 56 and then 73... "
So
"Hang on somewhere in the film are all the numbers 1-100!!!"
So you go back have another look and you spot more numbers until it becomes a game watching that film for the numbers. But while you do this you notice that in every shot is water. Wether it's a water tank, a bath filled with water, the beach, the estuary etc always some reference to water and this part becomes a game...it's riddled with puzzles and conundrums... He's really a game designer with that film.

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Have you really seen anything new, in repeated viewings of these films? I haven't -- well, my appreciation of Donald O'Connor's dancing may have increased the first two or three times, but nothing since.



Actually yes. With the character development. First time I watched it I hardly noticed the nuances of acting and all the little quirks the characters have. Now I'm dying to see the Bell boy who has a crush on Tony Curtis. He's just so good and for such a small role to give that character so much depth is brilliantly observed. To my mind anyway.
As for the Apartment well depends what mood I'm in but that I just enjoy having on before I hit the hay... The scene where Shirley Maclean gives him her little mirror and the awful truth hits him..... Been there.
And Singing in the Rain is just a great story - even if the musical side doesn't appeal the actual story is pretty funny.

Cheers
The
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Monday, April 25, 2005 12:13 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Partly for gratuitous profanity, & it deserved that rap 'cause it was gratuitous. Mostly I think 'cause the reviewers didn't appreciate the "Moonlighting" style irreverance, & winking @the audience, in what was marketed as an action film. Similar fate to Last Action Hero.



Well maybe but profanity has to be gratuitous otherwise it don't work to my mind. But y'know what these reviewers are like maybe they just woke that morining and thought:
"Y'know what today I don't like Bruce Willis"
Fickle them reviewers

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Richard E Grant even better in my opinion, but in any case, a great couple. Coulda fronted their own movie, and maybe that was another problem, as they kinda stole this one.



That's a cool idea a spin off movie with those two would be cool.

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Monday, April 25, 2005 12:15 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That's wierd... Somnambulist and you both like Hudson Hawk- I own a copy myself! When they start with 'Would you rather be a fish..' I start smilin'. And the last line about seatbelts always has me wiping tears from my eyes(ha ha-tears).

UNF@*#!IN' BELIEVABLE Chrisisall



he, he yeah and that whole bit about wantin' a cappucino! Class.

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Monday, April 25, 2005 12:48 PM

SICKDUDE


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Originally posted by SergeantX:
But I was hoping someone would take the bait and venture into the why of it all. What makes some movies get better as you watch them, while some just seem to grow stale?

For me, it's not just a question of a complex or mysterious plot. Certainly some movies are subtle enough that you'll discover new twists and foreshadowing that you missed the first time around. That's fun, but the charm of that goes away once you've 'got it'. There's something more durable in the movies that keep finding there way into my DVD player.



Okay, I'll take a stab at this (in much the same way a Reaver does). Besides, there's nothing I like more than hearing myself talk.

When examining this, I start out with the obvious stuff: quality, writing, enjoyability, originality. These are all obviously very important to the movie watching experience. But, then I realize that even with movies that rank the same on these attributes, some I enjoy rewatching more than others. (I won't bother giving examples of that; it'd take too long.)

Then it occured to me: what makes a movie rewatchable is the craftsmanship and heart of the moviemakers. That craftsmanship is exemplified by everyone working on it: acting, cinematography, direction, set design, costumes, editing, music, and especially writing. And that craftsmanship is wonderful in itself. The more people involved in the movie with this attitude, the better. I believe that what is really great to watch over and over is the work of someone that put everything they could into the job. That is what true appreciation is, and ultimately it is more satisfying that just a great script, or great acting. This is why we come away from a movie like Hellboy (just to pick on one) with a "ho-hum" feeling (everybody just did their job), whereas Firefly leaves us wanting oh so much more. It's because everyone was talented, cared, and gave it their all. And it shows!


"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson

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Monday, April 25, 2005 1:49 PM

SICKDUDE


Finally figured out how to express it:
We don't re-watch movies because of the good direction or good writing, we re-watch movies because we're impressed with the good direction or good writing. Impressed with the technique and effort as well as the result.

IMHO.


"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:21 AM

CHRISISALL


Here's one I just thought of, although not as fine as Enchanted April.
Somewhere In Time. I love that film (own it too), and, yeah, it's a girlie movie, I guess it appeals to my inner chick. A definite 4 kleenex experience for me every time.
Reeve and Seymour, what a combo.


-sob-Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:25 AM

SERGEANTX


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Originally posted by Sickdude:
Then it occured to me: what makes a movie rewatchable is the craftsmanship and heart of the moviemakers. That craftsmanship is exemplified by everyone working on it: acting, cinematography, direction, set design, costumes, editing, music, and especially writing. And that craftsmanship is wonderful in itself. The more people involved in the movie with this attitude, the better. I believe that what is really great to watch over and over is the work of someone that put everything they could into the job. That is what true appreciation is, and ultimately it is more satisfying that just a great script, or great acting. This is why we come away from a movie like Hellboy (just to pick on one) with a "ho-hum" feeling (everybody just did their job), whereas Firefly leaves us wanting oh so much more. It's because everyone was talented, cared, and gave it their all. And it shows!


"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson



Well put. And I agree to a point, but with me there's something else going on. As I mentioned, there are some really great movies, well-crafted, acted and written, but I don't necessarly get a kick out of watching them over and over.

There's something about certain movies that actually makes them work in ways beyond the story or the acting. I keep referencing poetry, but it's the best analogy I can think of. There's just something about quirky, unusual dialog and cinematography that makes it work as a refrain.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:27 PM

SICKDUDE


What kind of idiot double posts? Type 14, in my case.

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:27 PM

SICKDUDE


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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Well put.



Thanks.

I was beginning to think what I said was a bunch of poppycock. Maybe I just like re-watching movies with/about talking dogs....


"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson

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Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:26 PM

SERGEANTX


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Originally posted by Sickdude:
I was beginning to think what I said was a bunch of poppycock. Maybe I just like re-watching movies with/about talking dogs....



Who doesn't?


SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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