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Emergency for Joan of Arcadia fans

POSTED BY: BLACKOUTNIGHTS
UPDATED: Thursday, May 19, 2005 20:27
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Saturday, April 30, 2005 5:27 PM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS


CBS is considering cancelling the show. If you're interested in helping, you can sign a petition here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/sw34fr56/petition.html

"You're either in or you're out, and I'm playing to the in."—Greg Dulli

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Saturday, April 30, 2005 5:42 PM

KAYLEE4SIMON


I thought they already picked it up? It's still in danger??!! It's such a great show, CBS better not cancel it. I'm still mad they cancelled Wolf Lake.

Keep shiny!

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Sunday, May 1, 2005 4:54 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I signed the petition, even though I don't think those things ever do much good. The last report I read was a decision would be made by May 18th I believe.

I think the best thing to do, if you want to see season 3 of Joan, is write or email CBS directly about it...

CBS Television Network
51 West 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019

...or you can send them feedback through this link:

http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.shtml

(I sent one myself just a few weeks ago)

...and another thing I am sure they are keeping an eye on is how the pre-orders for the DVD set of Season 1 are shaping up. I've got mine on order and expect to be viewing it in about two week's time. If you want to order please help out Haken by using his links to amazon.com.



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Sunday, May 1, 2005 5:39 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


If they cancel Joan of Arcadia, for me personally it'll be like when Firefly was cancelled; heartbreaking.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Sunday, May 1, 2005 5:47 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


the link doesn't work. =[

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Sunday, May 1, 2005 6:23 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:
the link doesn't work.


Sorry about that. I had copied and pasted a post I did on my ezboard a couple of weeks ago and forgot that the url had been shortened by their system. I have edited my previous post and the link should work now.




wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Sunday, May 1, 2005 6:34 AM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


thank you.

I wrote them what i hope was a thoughtful comment and not just an "OMGz!!!!!11one!one! You can't cancel Joan of Arcadiaz! Itz the bestes show evah!"

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:33 AM

GT0163C


Unfortunately, Joan's been cancelled.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/18/cbs.60minutes.ap/index.html

Stupid tv execs.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:44 AM

JADEHAND


huh? Looks like they decided to clone Medium and The Inside instead. I sense someone is lacking in imagination.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:27 AM

MRSKBORG


Oh man, the second series just started showing over here in the UK. I love this show. Its the only thing I'm watching at the moment. Useless TV networks. Fist Carnivale then this. Fools all of them.

"This movie may be a beautiful butterfly, but I loved that damn caterpillar." Joss Whedon.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:15 AM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS


Yup, Joan's gone. But hey, we get Jennifer Love Hewitt as a psychic in it's place.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:40 AM

BIKISDAD


Quote:

Originally posted by BlackoutNights:
Yup, Joan's gone. But hey, we get Jennifer Love Hewitt as a psychic in it's place.




Yeah, the NBC executive's rationale for that decision was that he figures having Jennifer talking to dead people will draw a younger demographic than having Amber talk to God???????????? Are these people (tv executives) insane or just incredibly stupid...?

I'll grant that season two of Joan wasn't as interesting as the incredible season one. However, that said, the season finale left open the possibility for a great season three arc. How do these stupid execs not see that?

EDIT: Thanks to this stupidity, I'm now down to only TWO shows left on tv that I consider "must see" every week. I'm not even going to name them. Some tv exec might happen across the post and say, "Hey, let's cancel these too."

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:49 AM

JADEHAND


Quote:

Originally posted by bikisdad:
Quote:

Originally posted by BlackoutNights:
Yup, Joan's gone. But hey, we get Jennifer Love Hewitt as a psychic in it's place.




Yeah, the NBC executive's rational for that decision was that he figures having Jennifer talking to dead people will draw a younger demographic than having Amber talk to God???????????? Are these people (tv executives) insane or just incredibly stupid...?

I'll grant that season two of Joan wasn't as interesting as the incredible season one. However, that said, the season finale left open the possibility for a great season three arc. How do these stupid execs not see that?

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.



I'm fairly sure that they[execs] are far to busy looking at numbers generated by the severely outdated Nielson system to be bothered to actually watch anything, even on their own network. If I were an exec., I wouldn't watch that much either, I mean have you seen some of the crap they're showing.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:13 PM

BIKISDAD


Unfortunately, I have seen it and yes, that's why I hardly watch tv anymore. The way I see it (and these percentages aren't exact), about 90% of what plays on network tv is unwatchable crap. This includes all reality shows, almost every sit-com, and most dramas.

There's about another 7% of shows that I enjoy well enough to watch. This includes shows (for example, N.C.I.S.) that I find interesting and entertaining enough to watch every week if I remember to turn them on. However, if I forget to watch or they are cancelled, it really doesn't bother me much. These are shows that I enjoy seeing on tv, but I wouldn't buy the dvd set.

That leaves a rapidly shrinking 3% of shows that I really like a lot. That includes shows like Firefly, Angel, Joan of Arcadia, Wonderfalls and other similarly excellent programs. Notice anything they have in common? Yes, cancelled - all of them - and more that I haven't named. These are all shows for which I would buy dvds for myself and all my friends and family.

It seems that with all the complete crap on tv, the networks still feel compelled to take their cancellation fetish out on my measly 3% (which is now really down to 2%). As this trend shows no sign of abating, I expect that my percentage of really great programs to watch will be down to 0% within a couple of years. Then my tv will be used strictly for playing back the dvds of all my old favorites.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:19 PM

JADEHAND


I completely agree. And those percentages are a pretty good match to mine. All reality and current sit-coms in the 90% (Crap)
The shows you watch but are embaressed to admit 1%(Las Vegas, O.C.)
Worth watching, but not owning or fretting a missed episode about 7%(NCIS, House, CSI:NY, Medium, Smallville, 24, CSI,)
The final 2% Must see, plan to own (Alias, Lost, oh wait they canceled everything else in this category. Buffy, Angel, Wonderfalls, Firefly, etc.)
Hoping to add The Inside to this(not the cancelled part). And Jane E. is working up something tenativly called "Utopia" which sounds promising.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:03 PM

GUNRUNNER


60 Mins Wed (the piece they did today on the USS San Francisco was interesting and informative) and Joan canceled is there any non-cable TV shows left for people with brains? Shockingly besides NCIS the only show I find enjoyable is on Fox!! That show being House M.D and since this week’s astonishingly good episode I think its not long for this world.

The universe is frikken upside-down!

If I had a DVD drive on my ‘puter I would unplug my TV.

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:29 AM

LETOV


Quote:

Originally posted by GunRunner:
That show being House M.D and since this week’s astonishingly good episode I think its not long for this world.



Indeed. I was floored by this week's House. Honestly, there are only two shows I plan my evening's around watching these days. House and Lost. The Sci-Fi friday night line-up to a lesser degree, but those feel more like a guilty pleasure. This in mind I'm the closest I've ever been in my life to just cancelling my cable altogether and just getting these series on DVD when they come out.
I mean, honestly, the only other thing that's worthwhile on TV in my house is PBS for my kids... and I should just read them a book anyway...

- Leto_V

"Well, my days of not taking you
seriously are certainly coming to
a middle." - Mal

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:08 AM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS


A CONVERSATION
BY BlackoutNights

AGENT: Hey! Mr. Network! You've got to read this script. This show sounds unbelievable! Really!

NETWORK EXEC: Really!? Cancel it!

AGENT: But...you haven't bought it yet.

NETWORK EXEC: Cancel it anyway!

At this point the executive's assistance, who is the true brains behind her superior, scuttles over and whispers in his ear.

ASSISTANT: (Sir, let's not cancel it yet. We can buy it and show a few episodes and retain the rights so no one else can show it and reduce our competition).

NETWORK EXEC: That's a great idea, Susie! We'll buy the show!

AGENT: (smiling) Now that's what I like to hear!

All three of our cast members now break into a song and dance routine that puts Oklahoma to shame.

"You're either in or you're out, and I'm playing to the in."—Greg Dulli

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:48 AM

BIKISDAD


Quote:

Originally posted by Jadehand:
I completely agree. And those percentages are a pretty good match to mine. All reality and current sit-coms in the 90% (Crap)
The shows you watch but are embaressed to admit 1%(Las Vegas, O.C.)
Worth watching, but not owning or fretting a missed episode about 7%(NCIS, House, CSI:NY, Medium, Smallville, 24, CSI,)
The final 2% Must see, plan to own (Alias, Lost, oh wait they canceled everything else in this category. Buffy, Angel, Wonderfalls, Firefly, etc.)
Hoping to add The Inside to this(not the cancelled part). And Jane E. is working up something tenativly called "Utopia" which sounds promising.

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Ha Ha! I like your 1% category, and I'd put the same two shows in it - except, I think The OC is about to join the 90% category. Here they are in only the second season and they're already recycling plot lines from the first season (the female lead character with a drinking problem - sound familiar?)

Great (and unexpected) news that Arrested Development was renewed. That show is the only reason that I didn't lump ALL sit-coms in the 90% crap area.

I also agree with Gunrunner about this week's House - by far the best episode thus far. Kind of reminded me of the way "Out of Gas" was put together - really outstanding...

EDIT: Oh, and I'm sure "The Inside" will be an incredible show with all the writing and acting talent that Tim has lined up for it... I'll bet that, since these first 13 episodes are going to be played in June - August, that they will all at least air. After that, who knows... it's on F*X after all.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:42 AM

J2U


The Best Revenge is Living Well.

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:52 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Anyone who says "living well is the best revenge" has just never had a really good revenge.
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Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:57 AM

J2U


Please! Not in front of the children!

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:31 AM

MRSEMBASSY


I'm afraid "Joan" lost me this season when they introduced the Evil Leaper character, what's-his-name, who can also talk to God. Yawn.

Quote:


I also agree with Gunrunner about this week's House - by far the best episode thus far. Kind of reminded me of the way "Out of Gas" was put together - really outstanding...



I'll third that! I was actually starting to get pretty tired of the "House" format - utterly predictable, and completely unbelievable, week after week. But this one blew me away!

The only other 2% "must see" shows still on my list are:

"Veronica Mars" (WHOA, did that one have a great finale!) - and thank heaven for BitTorrent downloads so I can watch both VM and House, since they're on at the same time :-)

"Battlestar Galactica" - can't wait for new episodes. Grown-up SF! Yay.

That's it, I guess. Is "Lost" actually worth getting into? It looked so dopey in the promos early in the season.

-Mrs. Embassy

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:35 AM

HASUFEL


Quote:

Originally posted by bikisdad:
... about 90% of what plays on network tv is unwatchable crap. ...



Are you familiar with Sturgeon's Law?

http://www.physics.emory.edu/~weeks/misc/slaw.html

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:43 AM

YANKSNO1


Quote:

Originally posted by MrsEmbassy:
That's it, I guess. Is "Lost" actually worth getting into? It looked so dopey in the promos early in the season.

-Mrs. Embassy


One word, YES! It has been absolutely fantastic this season and have not had one bad ep so far. Season fanalie looks great also. Can't wait. Also, if you have an HDTV, it's worth it to watch it (if you get the channel in HD) just for the picture. The senery is superb, filming in Hawaii. The only thing I'm a little worried about the show is becoming the way of The X-Files, but so far it's been a great show and my new fav show on TV.

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:39 AM

BIKISDAD


Quote:

Originally posted by Hasufel:
Quote:

Originally posted by bikisdad:
... about 90% of what plays on network tv is unwatchable crap. ...



Are you familiar with Sturgeon's Law?

http://www.physics.emory.edu/~weeks/misc/slaw.html




Amazingly enough, I had never heard that before. I love his quote, though - now that you've brought it to my attention. Very astute. And it's telling that what he said in 1953 still holds true in 2005.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:59 PM

WHITEFALL


I started watching 'Joan', conviently, on the night that they aired the season 1 finale after the summer, so that it could be followed by the premiere the next week. I thought, this is cool, religious intrigue sorta stuff...

I never saw the first supposedly great season, though i'm thinking of getting it on DVD someday.... So on the strength of the second season alone, I learned to like JoA, and I was annoyed when I missed it, and i just liked watching it, and I loved the credits for some odd reason. But anyhoo..... it's gone. Gorram it... and I was really interested in this arc they had built up for season 3, with this sort of holy cold war, and joan would finally tell her friends about God maybe.... and (though i didnt see season 1) they FINALLY mentioned the original Joan d'Arc, and that felt really profound to me at least.

Gorram TV.

"Some people juggle geese!" -Ancient Chinese proverb.

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Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:27 PM

J2U


Sturgeon does cut to the heart of the matter. Joan's writers lost me at the same spot(Mr.evil saves what's his name). Veronica has been remarkably consistant, not requiring much exercise of my disbelief suspention muscles. Lost lost me 3 times. I tried to stay interested(what were the alternatives?)
BS Galactica, kicks. Sure everyone knew James Olmos was a hard guy but what a bad ass! Great cast, excellent writing and production! I'm sorry but I think Sturgeon might have missed by what? say 8% I think he may not have allowed for reality tv in 1953(being as most American families wouldn't own one til the 60's). Factoring in the extra 45% B.S. We should be happy and content with the current offerings!
Enjoy earning and spending our ten cent Dollars! Enjoy our food additives and go bed knowing all is right with the world. (with Johnny Lang's Lie To Me playing in the back ground~tip'o the hat to GW~)

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