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Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:22 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Given the success of Fox’s reboots of The X-Files and 24, and Prison Break returning this year, Fox Broadcasting President of Entertainment David Madden said he’d be open to a Firefly reboot if Joss Whedon himself wanted to revisit it. Madden suspects Whedon is now too busy with movies, and he would not consider doing Firefly without Whedon.

Fox was one of the few networks to present an executive session for the Television Critics Association (the others were CW, Showtime, and PBS). In addition to panels on upcoming series like Prison Break and 24: Legacy and current shows like Star and Bones, Fox executives offered news on The X-Files and other fan-favorite shows that might return.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/tca-2017-x-men-series-pri
son-break-premiere-date-24-legacy-gotham-more
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See comments at http://whedonesque.com/comments/36036

One interesting comment: "David Madden is a very nice man and exceedingly polite/charming. He could have very easily been making pleasant small talk."

Another comment had a different view of Madden's motives: "Joss won't do it. Too much time has passed and he has other projects. So Madden can safely say that, paying lip service to fans while knowing it won't happen. He just passed the blame card to Joss. Dick move. Very sad."

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Friday, January 13, 2017 11:11 AM

MOOSE


Probably said that knowing Joss was too busy.
Now he can say "well, we wanted to do something but Joss said no."


Gorram F*X.

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Friday, January 13, 2017 11:37 AM

MUTT999


Let's get David Madden, Tim Minear and Joss in the same room together. Let them work something out........please??



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Friday, January 13, 2017 12:05 PM

THGRRI

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They could ease into it by adopting the Sherlock principle. Do three or four episodes a year. It means you have a lot of time to write and edit before you film.

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Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:04 PM

SUASOR


Joss may well be tempted by this approach, as might Fox (which made a lot of money from a "failure".)

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Monday, January 16, 2017 10:19 AM

REAVERFAN


Yup. Sounds like all talk, no action.

Do you think Joss is going to say no to all that easy movie money to reboot a "failed" show? As much as I'd love to see that, I'm pretty sure he's got very lucrative commitments lined up for the next decade.


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Monday, January 16, 2017 8:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I am wont to recall that some James Cameron dude, after having made the biggest grossing film in history, decided to do a little TV show called Dark Angel, which I enjoyed very much - and own.

I don't think JC had any lack of commitments or opportunities at the time. If Joss is in love enough with the Verse, we could all luck out.

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Monday, January 23, 2017 3:43 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I am wont to recall that some James Cameron dude, after having made the biggest grossing film in history, decided to do a little TV show called Dark Angel, which I enjoyed very much - and own.

I don't think JC had any lack of commitments or opportunities at the time. If Joss is in love enough with the Verse, we could all luck out.



What's Joss up to anyway?

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Monday, January 23, 2017 7:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

What's Joss up to anyway?

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I saw this comment:

When a society becomes less and less interested in moving forward creatively and more and more obsessed with reliving the past, it can create the impression that that society's best days are behind it.
http://whedonesque.com/comments/36036#506729

Joss is trying something new. His best days are not behind him:

"Untitled Joss Whedon/WWII Horror Project"
www.imdb.com/title/tt6176406/

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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:47 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

What's Joss up to anyway?

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I saw this comment:

When a society becomes less and less interested in moving forward creatively and more and more obsessed with reliving the past, it can create the impression that that society's best days are behind it.
http://whedonesque.com/comments/36036#506729

Joss is trying something new. His best days are not behind him:

"Untitled Joss Whedon/WWII Horror Project"
www.imdb.com/title/tt6176406/



Doesn't fly SECOND. We all know he didn't have a chance to flesh out much of the story line at all. The creative process is creating. So let him create the show he claimed meant the most to him that he was denied. Let him answer some of the many questions that have been asked over the years. Like where did Mal get the money for Serenity???

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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:46 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

Doesn't fly SECOND. We all know he didn't have a chance to flesh out much of the story line at all. The creative process is creating. So let him create the show he claimed meant the most to him that he was denied. Let him answer some of the many questions that have been asked over the years. Like where did Mal get the money for Serenity???

If Joss had wanted to "flesh out" the story lines or answer the many Firefly questions that have been asked, he would have wrote the Serenity comics himself. But he didn't. Same with the Buffy comics. He didn't write them either. Joss Whedon is on the cover as the Executive Producer, but this is not the answer to any questions about Firefly I have ever had:


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:49 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

Doesn't fly SECOND. We all know he didn't have a chance to flesh out much of the story line at all. The creative process is creating. So let him create the show he claimed meant the most to him that he was denied. Let him answer some of the many questions that have been asked over the years. Like where did Mal get the money for Serenity???

If Joss had wanted to "flesh out" the story lines or answer the many Firefly questions that have been asked, he would have wrote the Serenity comics himself. But he didn't. Same with the Buffy comics. He didn't write them either. Joss Whedon is on the cover as the Executive Producer, but this is not the answer to any questions about Firefly I have ever had:


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



This post strengthens my first suggestion. It's about the money.

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Friday, January 27, 2017 11:16 PM

THGRRI

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Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:50 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


At 3:58 Joss said, "There's the real fear of, you know, the Monkey's Paw, where you bring it back to life and it isn't the same."

The Monkey's Paw by W. W. Jacobs
https://americanliterature.com/author/w-w-jacobs/short-story/the-monke
ys-paw


Theme:
The simple desires of the characters are twisted by the monkey's paw and turned into horrible consequences, not due to the faults of the characters, but rather due to the indifference of fate itself.

Select to view spoiler:


The payment that Mr. White attains for his son's death is the exact sum that he requested to make the final payment on his house - thus, his reasonable desire was met by a terrible consequence.

The characters are normal people with normal reactions and normal desires, but those normal desires cause their downfall because of the indifferent fate that governs them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey's_Paw#Theme

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:57 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
At 3:58 Joss said, "There's the real fear of, you know, the Monkey's Paw, where you bring it back to life and it isn't the same."

The Monkey's Paw by W. W. Jacobs
https://americanliterature.com/author/w-w-jacobs/short-story/the-monke
ys-paw


Theme:
The simple desires of the characters are twisted by the monkey's paw and turned into horrible consequences, not due to the faults of the characters, but rather due to the indifference of fate itself.

Select to view spoiler:


The payment that Mr. White attains for his son's death is the exact sum that he requested to make the final payment on his house - thus, his reasonable desire was met by a terrible consequence.

The characters are normal people with normal reactions and normal desires, but those normal desires cause their downfall because of the indifferent fate that governs them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey's_Paw#Theme




He also says at that same time in the tape that "he may, and he is dying to get back onto a ship with those guys."

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Thursday, February 9, 2017 3:19 PM

THGRRI

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Fox Interested in ‘Firefly’ Reboot, But Only Under One Condition

Fox brought The X-Files and Prison Break back for more episodes, which might have a few folks wondering if that means Firefly, an admittedly less popular show, could return as well. Creator Joss Whedon‘s sci-fi western only lasted one wonderful season on Fox, but the story continued with the 2005 film, Serenity. Could Malcolm Reynolds (Nathan Fillion) and the remaining crewmembers of the Serenity ever return to star in a second season of Firefly on Fox? Fox Broadcasting President of Entertainment, David Madden, recently commented on the matter, claiming he’s open to more Firefly if Whedon is.

Below, learn why we might or might not see a Firefly reboot.

During a panel last month at the TCA 2017, Madden told Rotten Tomatoes he’s open to a Firefly reboot (via TV Overmind). Of course, he’s only interested if Whedon wants to do it, and Whedon is busy with movies. Madden doesn’t want more episodes of Firefly without The Avengers: Age of Ultron director.


Three years ago, producer-writer Tim Minear stated he “would never foreclose the possibility” of bringing the show back. “I think a limited series of some kind would work best,” he said. “Something like that could also work if, say, 20th [Century Fox, who owns the rights] could partner with Netflix or another distributor.” If they ever went that route, there might be some issues with the rights.

After the release of Age of Ultron, Whedon told Collider “there are rights [issues] between Fox and Universal because one had the show and one had the movie, so it gets a little funky fresh with that.” There’s also the matter of whether Whedon would want to make more episodes of Firefly, which he’s always held the same position on: he’d do it if it felt right and when the cast is freed up from their busy schedules. First and foremost, Whedon wants to tell another story, not just find an excuse to get together with his friends.

Years ago he said he’d take another look at the idea when Fillion isn’t starring in Castle anymore, which is now the case, and when he’s no longer “the Tom Hagen of the Marvel Universal,” which he’s not anymore. He said he “might look and see where the market is then.” As for the star of the series, Fillion, he’s skeptical he’d play Malcolm Reynolds again. He thinks another season of Firefly is an “impossibility,” but he said the same of the movie, so he doesn’t try to underestimate Whedon.

http://www.slashfilm.com/fox-firefly-reboot/

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Thursday, February 9, 2017 10:44 PM

BUP

No more running. I aim to misbehave.


Trust in Whedon. He will do the right thing for Firefly. I will respect whatever decision is made. (To the powers that be) Let me know if help is needed. Captain. (Exits).

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Friday, February 10, 2017 11:45 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by BUP:
Trust in Whedon. He will do the right thing for Firefly. I will respect whatever decision is made. (To the powers that be) Let me know if help is needed. Captain. (Exits).



Disappointment controls emotions at first. Then reality sets in and you live with it. Unless of course, he reboots the show in some fashion. But yes, ultimately the decision lies with Joss.

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 6:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Why Firefly Should Come Back
www.theverge.com/2017/2/10/14576156/fox-firefly-reboot-joss-whedon-ser
enity


The primary argument for bringing Firefly back has always been that it never fully felt like the show got its due, at least in terms of finding time to properly tell the stories Joss Whedon set up.

Serenity and a series of Dark Horse spinoff comics filled the largest holes and answered the major questions, but it just seems like there’s so much more for these characters to do. . . .

The cast has this easy camaraderie that made them fun to watch and the universe had a gritty realism that was refreshing after growing up watching the clean-cut adventures of the crew of the Enterprise. Sure — most of the main storylines issues were tied up rather hastily through Serenity and the spinoff comics. But it didn’t have to be that way, and one can only assume that Whedon has plenty of ideas about where he wanted to take Firefly. . . .

http://adamwithers.deviantart.com/art/Firefly-656971534



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 12:55 PM

THGRRI

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Just for the record. I have never believed there would be a rebut. However, I will always enjoy the thought there will and be willing to discuss it.

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 5:41 PM

BUP

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Just for the record. I have never believed there would be a rebut. However, I will always enjoy the thought there will and be willing to discuss it.

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Just out of curiosity, if Joss asked what you thought, what would you say?

Bup

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 5:57 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by BUP:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Just for the record. I have never believed there would be a rebut. However, I will always enjoy the thought there will and be willing to discuss it.

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Just out of curiosity, if Joss asked what you thought, what would you say?

Bup



Thank you for the show. I'd like some more please. Like the little boy from Oliver Twist. How could he say not to that?

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:50 PM

BUP

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by BUP:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Just for the record. I have never believed there would be a rebut. However, I will always enjoy the thought there will and be willing to discuss it.

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Just out of curiosity, if Joss asked what you thought, what would you say?

Bup



Thank you for the show. I'd like some more please. Like the little boy from Oliver Twist. How could he say not to that?

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I don't know. :)

BUP

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Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I ran across this and enjoyed it. It seems to be different than the OP linkys.

http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/10/14576156/fox-firefly-reboot-joss-whe
don-serenity


The linky headline was Why and Why Not Firefly should be rebooted.

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Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:19 PM

JAYMESCOBB


Has Joss himself expressed any interest or disinterest in a reboot?

JaymesCobb

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Friday, April 28, 2017 3:03 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by JaymesCobb:
Has Joss himself expressed any interest or disinterest in a reboot?

JaymesCobb



I don't know but JOSH!!! COMEON.






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Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:51 AM

OLDGUY

What Would Mal do ?


yeah, but there's an evil reoublican game show host in the white house now...it's the kind of motivation that Joss might can't resist..he'd never have made the show under the obama reign, but right now it looks like he's loosing his mind over the current state of politics...c'mon Joss..time to write more Firefly...speak out about the oppressive dictatorship !! *sarcasm folks*

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Sunday, April 30, 2017 2:11 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by OLDGUY:
yeah, but there's an evil reoublican game show host in the white house now...it's the kind of motivation that Joss might can't resist..he'd never have made the show under the obama reign, but right now it looks like he's loosing his mind over the current state of politics...c'mon Joss..time to write more Firefly...speak out about the oppressive dictatorship !! *sarcasm folks*


We were missing a campaign slogan.
Vote for Trump, only he could spur Joss into more Firefly.

I don't think that would have worked with the Liberals McCain and Romney, but Liberal Trump seems to poke Joss.

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Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Is this news? It has today's date, but it was buried. Is it just rehash with updated dates?


http://en.mediamass.net/culture/firefly/reunion.html

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Friday, June 9, 2017 12:44 AM

MOOSE


That's a satire site.

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Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:40 PM

REAVERFAN


Too bad. I'd watch ANYTHING about Firefly: A reboot, a new cast, anything.

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