The Hateful Eight by SHINYGOODGUY

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The Hateful Eight

POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Saturday, January 23, 2016 03:23
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Monday, January 11, 2016 2:22 AM

How I long for the days when the western will return to the big screen in a big way, well, maybe not BIG way as in blockbuster, but like Dances with Wolves or No Country
for Old Men, or even Blazing Saddles. Something that captures the amazing beauty of
the country and tales of traveling Westward Ho!

One that captures, on a grand scale, that type of adventure and wonder is The Revenant. And one that tries hard, but falls short, is Tarantino's Hateful Eight.
I'll tell you what it is, it's a cross between Bus Stop and Gunfight at the OK
Corral. H8ful 8 does have snappy dialogue, a sparse and well developed script
and an intriguing plot that keeps you guessing. Tarantino does have quite an eye
for set pieces to move the story along, normally, but I started to feel a bit
claustrophobic after about an hour and a half into the nearly 3 hour movie.

I did like the characters that presented themselves, but I felt that I was being
preached to after a while, and what I was waiting for was those wonderfully juicy
stories and backstories that Tarantino develops for the truly colorful heroes and
villains alike. It was well done, but I somehow walked out of the theater
wondering what just took place. The shootout and ending scenes were quite
interesting and kept you on the edge of your seat as to what would happen next,
but Tarantino left me feeling disappointed in the anti-climactic ending. My guess
is that the fun was in the execution rather than in any 'Pulp Fiction'-type ending.

SGG

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Monday, January 11, 2016 6:53 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

In my opinion, Tarantino is one of the most over-rated directors ever, and I find it harder and harder to care about his work.

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Monday, January 11, 2016 8:26 AM

WISHIMAY

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

I did like the characters that presented themselves, but I felt that I was being
preached to after a while,

Eek. Thanks for the heads up, I'll Netflixs it. That's one of my big pet peeves....

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Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:02 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

I liked Inglorius Basterds much more (mainly because of Christoph Waltz).

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

I did like the characters that presented themselves, but I felt that I was being
preached to after a while,

Eek. Thanks for the heads up, I'll Netflixs it. That's one of my big pet peeves....

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Wednesday, January 20, 2016 8:04 PM

MUDD

I just recently watched this. Seems like a big step backwards for Tarantino. I liked Inglorious Basterds a lot, and while I don't think it's as good, I thought there was a lot to like about Django Unchained as well. A lot of his earlier stuff I wrote off as being, well, his earlier stuff. I thought maybe he was growing as a writer/director.

The absurd gratuitousness of the blood is like an old inside joke with himself that's gone on too long. With maybe a couple of exceptions, it detracts from his films artistically. Scenes that could feel dramatic instead feel silly because they take place in a level of reality that felt immature in junior high. Heads exploding for no reason? A guy getting shot in the genitals? This movie plays out like you took a B western and inserted the worst parts of a B slasher flick.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:49 PM

WISHIMAY

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Something that captures the amazing beauty of
the country and tales of traveling Westward Ho!

Adventure is dead, apparently.

All that's left is whiny hipsters with weapons and an over-riding sense of impotence...

This'll go well.

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Friday, January 22, 2016 3:45 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

When I wrote about the dialogue, I was entertained by the snappy repartee
but I felt there should have been a better payoff at the end. Tarantino went through his writer's phase in the early flicks; but now he seems to be going through his 'bloody' phase - between this Kill Bill and Django enough
blood to supply twice the number of movies he's made.

Tarantino, I believe wasted the talents of Jennifer Jason Lee. It would have been more interesting if he would have developed a back story for her
character, like he did for O-Ren Ishi or The Bride in Kill Bill. I'm just
saying.

SGG

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Originally posted by Mudd:
I just recently watched this. Seems like a big step backwards for Tarantino. I liked Inglorious Basterds a lot, and while I don't think it's as good, I thought there was a lot to like about Django Unchained as well. A lot of his earlier stuff I wrote off as being, well, his earlier stuff. I thought maybe he was growing as a writer/director.

The absurd gratuitousness of the blood is like an old inside joke with himself that's gone on too long. With maybe a couple of exceptions, it detracts from his films artistically. Scenes that could feel dramatic instead feel silly because they take place in a level of reality that felt immature in junior high. Heads exploding for no reason? A guy getting shot in the genitals? This movie plays out like you took a B western and inserted the worst parts of a B slasher flick.

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Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:23 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Actually, I get that. Kill Bill had moments of brilliance in it (The Story of O-Ren Ishi; even Victoria's little girl Nikia), but ultimately I don't remember it as well as Pulp Fiction. Hateful 8 and Django beautifully shot, but, in the end, it's the story..........it didn't deliver. Violence can be effectively used to tell part of a story (see Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch) and advance the director's vision, but it always falls back to the story. The writing must be strong.

I think that success, especially early in one's career, ruins some folk. Tarantino
has been full of himself - and overindulging in the hype. I suggest he's one of those who's head exploded long ago. Just an observation.

SGG

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
In my opinion, Tarantino is one of the most over-rated directors ever, and I find it harder and harder to care about his work.

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