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Star Wars: Rogue One

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Monday, December 19, 2016 8:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I loved it. I want to see it again in Cinema, at least another time. Although it had the hype of Episode 1, this one delivers, like Episode 4 did.

Very enjoyable.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:35 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



#k2so #firefly mashup
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:42 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Rogue One/Serenity similarities beyond starring Alan Tudyk.

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For those who have seen 'Rogue One', did anybody else think that the ending was pretty similar to 'Serenity'? I'm not accusing the writers of ripping it off or anything, just a lot of similarities:

Large sky battle. It's Star Wars though so this is obvious.

The final land battle is centered around taking a data tape with information about the evil government and broadcasting it via a big antenna.

Alan Tudyk's character dies early in the final conflict.

Things don't go easily in broadcasting the information and so the protagonist has to jump and climb up onto a platform with a long fall below, all while being closely pursued by the villain.

The bad guy is left alive, hurt but alive, at the broadcast platform as the hero(es) hobble away.

Again, not saying the movie ripped off our movie or anything, I quite enjoyed 'Rogue One', but my first thought after it was over was "Wow, that had a very similar ending to 'Serenity'."



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:40 AM

MOOSE


Anyone notice that K2SO did Wash's "flick 3 switches" when they getting ready to leave Yavin 4 the first time? I may have miscounted, but it looked like 3 to me.

I enjoyed the movie.

Eta: one of the redditors in the above link caught it as well.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:34 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I forgot to mention that one thing which bothered me the most was that many of the best scenes in trailers and clips where left out of the film.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2016 3:20 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I agree, I liked it a lot.


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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I loved it. I want to see it again in Cinema, at least another time. Although it had the hype of Episode 1, this one delivers, like Episode 4 did.

Very enjoyable.


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Wednesday, December 28, 2016 6:05 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Anyone notice that K2SO did Wash's "flick 3 switches" when they getting ready to leave Yavin 4 the first time? I may have miscounted, but it looked like 3 to me.

I enjoyed the movie.

Eta: one of the redditors in the above link caught it as well.



Both were pilots and both had great lines. And didn't K2S0 say something like ' we're coming - for you ' or some such ? Reminded me of when Wash was talking to Zoe, before eventually saving them all w/ the barnswallow maneuver. Forget the exact line, but I thought of Wash as soon as I heard him say it.

And apparently I'm the only one in the 'verse who has an issue w/ the ending to Rogue 1 and the opening scene of Ep 4, A New Hope.

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The ridiculous claim by the Princess that her ship was on a " diplomatic mission to Alderran " , when CLEARLY it was just involved in the huge battle and was in hot pursuit by a Star Destroyer which it had just ran from at the end of R-1 !!



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I keep forgetting to also mention that I enjoyed the continuity of all of the rebel pilots reveling in the 70's fashion motif - hair, stache, and they need some monster lapels.

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Thursday, December 29, 2016 9:48 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry _________________The more we are protected, the more we are trapped within. -P. Gabriel----Nothin' worse than a monster who thinks he's right with god. -Mal


I actually did not like the movie, and neither did my crew. I get there wasn't time for character development, but there really wasn't ANY in this, and half of the scenes were nightmare level busy. Several times I looked at hubby and asked when it would be over, as all but the last quarter of the movie d.r.a.g.g.e.d. on. Even had the stereotypical "opening and closing of the dangerous vent" thing from Galaxy Quest. I went into it knowing that all the characters would die, but there was no inspiration to be gleaned here. I didn't care when they died, except for the damn robot.

They even managed to make the death of the Asian guy feel like they were making fun of the force. It was more dumb luck, him pulling the lever, than any connection with the force. His sidekick might as well have been wearing a red shirt...

I won't own it, and I won't be watching it again. But then, hype doesn't make me like a movie more...

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Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:42 AM

JO753

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It wuz OK.

About the dijital rezurectionz - I dont know why they didnt make them perfect, kuz I'v seen fake dijital actorz that you cant tell they are fake from yirz ago.

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Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:20 AM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

And apparently I'm the only one in the 'verse who has an issue w/ the ending to Rogue 1 and the opening scene of Ep 4, A New Hope.

Select to view spoiler:


The ridiculous claim by the Princess that her ship was on a " diplomatic mission to Alderran " , when CLEARLY it was just involved in the huge battle and was in hot pursuit by a Star Destroyer which it had just ran from at the end of R-1 !!




Well, it's not like it worked.

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Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:13 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

And apparently I'm the only one in the 'verse who has an issue w/ the ending to Rogue 1 and the opening scene of Ep 4, A New Hope.

Select to view spoiler:


The ridiculous claim by the Princess that her ship was on a " diplomatic mission to Alderran " , when CLEARLY it was just involved in the huge battle and was in hot pursuit by a Star Destroyer which it had just ran from at the end of R-1 !!




Well, it's not like it worked.


Yeah. Diplomatic denial, I don't see it as a big deal - or are you taking the words as literally factual statements? Is this really a lack of continuity?

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Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Anyone notice that K2SO did Wash's "flick 3 switches" when they getting ready to leave Yavin 4 the first time? I may have miscounted, but it looked like 3 to me.

I enjoyed the movie.

Eta: one of the redditors in the above link caught it as well.



Both were pilots and both had great lines. And didn't K2S0 say something like ' we're coming - for you ' or some such ? Reminded me of when Wash was talking to Zoe, before eventually saving them all w/ the barnswallow maneuver. Forget the exact line, but I thought of Wash as soon as I heard him say it.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


Also Spoilers:
I also thought it familiar territory when the protagonists must forge forward to get the media (Jin +2 in R1, Mal in BDM) while the rest stay back and hold off the overwhelming forces (the rebel volunteers in R1, the BDH in BDM), and also when the surprising and unplanned help turns the tables on the bleak outlook and squashes the enemy (Rebel Dog fighters defying their Council in R1, River's "My Turn" against Reavers in BDM)

Also, when K2 conveys his final face-to-face line to Jin, I was reminded of Simon speaking to Mal at the end of Serenity - but this was the Pilot Episode Serenity.


I had not been aware that all of the key players would die, but understood that a few pivotal agents would sacrifice, based upon the lines in A New Hope. Wishi- did you enjoy other films in the 7 film (besides R1) franchise so far? If so, which and why?

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Saturday, December 31, 2016 9:36 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Yeah. Diplomatic denial, I don't see it as a big deal - or are you taking the words as literally factual statements? Is this really a lack of continuity?



I'm talking about the entire sequence of events as being ridiculous , in every way ! First, the Princess is a member of the Senate, no ? What the hell is she doing in a full scale battle ? She's not in space battle gear, she's likely not studied at space-military academy, right ? If her ' cover ' is to be a 'diplomatic' representative, why risk her being on the front lines, as it were ?

Second, who is she trying to fool ? The ship was clearly JUST IN A MAJOR BATTLE , which the Rebels attacked an Empire base. It completely changes the focus of the opening of ANH if they really are on a cover trip to some diplomatic mission, and are covertly trying to get the plan to the Rebel base. Origianlly, the Empire comes off as all iron fisted and heavy handed, pulling over anyone and everyone they want, just cause or not. But here, it's clear they were attacked, the ship in the battle tried to make an escape, was caught, and ...

" Oh, us ? We're on a diplomatic mission, ... yeah, that's the ticket ! "

Lame !

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, December 31, 2016 9:37 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry _________________The more we are protected, the more we are trapped within. -P. Gabriel----Nothin' worse than a monster who thinks he's right with god. -Mal


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Wishi- did you enjoy other films in the 7 film (besides R1) franchise so far? If so, which and why?




Oh yeah. Even bought these tickets on the internets to be sure we got in, sometimes we are late, and it's a small theater.

I had guessed they would kill just about everyone off just because it was a one shot movie. They didn't want to be left with straggling questions and threads to pick up. Plus, it would bring extra meaning to the whole "many people died to bring us this info." The only thing it had to achieve for the cannon was an "In Memoriam" feel when you leave, and it did that. There was no emotional connection for me at all. Jyn didn't really care about taking down the Empire until they talked her into going and the whole rousing speech felt contrived and faked. I had no reason to really care about the protagonist...she was just a victim of circumstance. If I knew the Empire had killed a part of my family, and held the rest hostage, my honor would demand someone's head on a plate or I would die trying. Instead, she shrugged her shoulders and said "whatever" for 20 years. Reeeeal inspiration there.

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Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Yeah. Diplomatic denial, I don't see it as a big deal - or are you taking the words as literally factual statements? Is this really a lack of continuity?



I'm talking about the entire sequence of events as being ridiculous , in every way !


I had not really thought there were a pile of gaping errors, and don't recall people debating such, unlike the obvious boondoggle of Star Trek.
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First, the Princess is a member of the Senate, no ?


No. The story I got from watching the films was that she was Senator in Episode 1, and then in Episode 2 she had reached her term limit and was no longer a Senator. Or maybe that was Episode 3.
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What the hell is she doing in a full scale battle ?


In which Episode? In One she was sorta plucked, or kidnapped, or caught up when visiting Anakin, wasn't she? She was being held captive by the Empire, right?
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She's not in space battle gear, she's likely not studied at space-military academy, right ? If her ' cover ' is to be a 'diplomatic' representative, why risk her being on the front lines, as it were ?


You talking about a particular Episode, or throughout Ep 1-3?
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Second, who is she trying to fool ?


Don't call me Second - that is a different sock puppet than me.
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The ship was clearly JUST IN A MAJOR BATTLE , which the Rebels attacked an Empire base. It completely changes the focus of the opening of ANH if they really are on a cover trip to some diplomatic mission, and are covertly trying to get the plan to the Rebel base.


I'm trying to recall. R2D2 and C3PO were jettisoned from Leia's ship onto Tantooine, residence of Obi-Wan, right? R2D2 had the Plans, right?
If this is correct, I don't see a change in context here. If I recall this correctly, we already knew that these plans were on Leia's ship. The R2D2 jettison was to circumvent the discovery during the inevitable catch and boarding of Leia's ship by the Empire, and then ANH's mission was to get the plans back to Leia, and all the way to the Rebel Command. Along the way some Luke guy got tangled up in the intrigue. Do I have all that right? If so, it sounds like the story was the same before R1 comes out.
I don't see a difference, can you point it out? I'm not trying to be dense, I'm just not sure where the holes are or IIRC.
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Origianlly, the Empire comes off as all iron fisted and heavy handed, pulling over anyone and everyone they want, just cause or not.


Ummm. PLANET killer? Hello? They already indiscriminately torched a rebel-friendly city plus a religious Mecca-like place, even if they've been raping the place for Kyber crystals awhile. And in this "battle" they annihilate another city, an Empire place, with folks expecting some immunity from Empire horrors since they live in, yanno, an Empire-protected place.
What part of that does not scream "iron-fisted" or "heavy handed" to you?
And then the early part of ANH they obliterate Anderal?? - sorry I just drew a blank on the name.
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But here, it's clear they were attacked, the ship in the battle tried to make an escape, was caught, and ...

" Oh, us ? We're on a diplomatic mission, ... yeah, that's the ticket ! "

Lame !

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


I don't know - diplomatic mission is the hallmark excuse for spies. Unless I'm missing something that you have not specified enough.

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Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Wishi- did you enjoy other films in the 7 film (besides R1) franchise so far? If so, which and why?




Oh yeah. Even bought these tickets on the internets to be sure we got in, sometimes we are late, and it's a small theater.

I had guessed they would kill just about everyone off just because it was a one shot movie. They didn't want to be left with straggling questions and threads to pick up. Plus, it would bring extra meaning to the whole "many people died to bring us this info." The only thing it had to achieve for the cannon was an "In Memoriam" feel when you leave, and it did that. There was no emotional connection for me at all. Jyn didn't really care about taking down the Empire until they talked her into going and the whole rousing speech felt contrived and faked.


I thought she "knew" that her father was working for the Empire, laboring to create this Death Star, an embarrassment to her and her kin. Her turnaround is when she sees the hologram message, her dad explains what he has been doing all these years, and how to save the galaxy thanks to him.
I can understand her not wanting to be known as the daughter of the Benedict Arnold of her Universe, and also her change of tune once she learns the truth, even when nobody else believes her.
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I had no reason to really care about the protagonist...she was just a victim of circumstance. If I knew the Empire had killed a part of my family, and held the rest hostage, my honor would demand someone's head on a plate or I would die trying. Instead, she shrugged her shoulders and said "whatever" for 20 years. Reeeeal inspiration there.


Did you miss all that?

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Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:28 PM

MOOSE


JSF, I think you're confusing Princess Leia (also a Senator) with her mom (who was Queen and then Senator).

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Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:09 PM

WISHIMAY

"Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry _________________The more we are protected, the more we are trapped within. -P. Gabriel----Nothin' worse than a monster who thinks he's right with god. -Mal


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I thought she "knew" that her father was working for the Empire, laboring to create this Death Star, an embarrassment to her and her kin. Her turnaround is when she sees the hologram message, her dad explains what he has been doing all these years,



She saw her mother killed, she knew they were coming for him and why, she knew he had no choice but to go with him, and she decided not to care for 20 years. Her loyalty was underwhelming. Even when she saw the hologram, she didn't readily sign up, she had to be talked into it. Her dad was awesome, her? Not so much...

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Friday, January 6, 2017 7:23 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
JSF, I think you're confusing Princess Leia (also a Senator) with her mom (who was Queen and then Senator).




Thanks for beating me to that. I was having a hard time trying to figure out if JSF was being serious, had confused the two, or what !

Reminded me of this gal, actually -




Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 8, 2017 4:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
JSF, I think you're confusing Princess Leia (also a Senator) with her mom (who was Queen and then Senator).


You are correct.
I had the impression RapKnight was referring to Amidala, Senator for Alderran. Who was Princess Leia Senator for?

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Sunday, January 8, 2017 6:15 PM

MOOSE


Amidala was Senator for Naboo, Leia was for Alderran.

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Monday, January 9, 2017 7:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Amidala was Senator for Naboo, Leia was for Alderran.


Excellent. I need to brush up.

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