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Wind River

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Sunday, May 6, 2018 20:28
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Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.

The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.

The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.

For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.

The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.

I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.

I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Had intended to mention that I did not see Greg Edmondsen in the credits. Had suspected he would be, due to many score passages in the film.

If you are wondering if this film is recommended, I say this:
If you are jonesing for a fix of CGI, this is not it.
If you need blue screen scenes or nonstop superhero violence, this is not it.
If you want compelling story enveloped in engrossing cinematic storytelling, this is what you should see.

Bonus that it's based on actual events.



Also, I will need to revisit my Best Films of 2017 List.

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

I thought it a very good film. But it is possible I am enamored of Elizabeth Olsen. The setting is Wyoming.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 1:45 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

I thought it a very good film. But it is possible I am enamored of Elizabeth Olsen. The setting is Wyoming.


Don't know that name but I do like Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene. Should be beautiful being set in Wyoming.

Lots of snow. You could make yourself to home.

And Jeremy Renner does a very good job of not showboating, just playing the roles straight, solid, down-to-earth. Except when he must be a superhero.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 9:19 AM

MOOSE


Everyone I know that has seen it has raved about it. I just might see this one in the theater.

And I hate going out to the theater.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 2:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Everyone I know that has seen it has raved about it. I just might see this one in the theater.

And I hate going out to the theater.

I'm sorry. I should have mentioned that.

Wind River has more power on the big screen. Some scenes might seem less fitted on small screen. I'd suggest not sitting in the front rows of the theater - have good view of the whole width of the screen.
There was plenty of beauty to revel in. Close up and wide shot. Very glad I saw it in cinema. Watching again will remind me of what I experienced.

Thinking about the snow cinematography on big screen, I realize similarity to Hateful 8, Jane Got a Gun. Maybe Fargo.
Editing into Spoiler to not ruin your first experience:

Select to view spoiler:


In fact the Fargo parallels might be greatest all around, replacing the Minnesota dialect with subscripted Native Americans (Arapahoe IIRC).




I could have mentioned I was a little struck, not quite stunned, with the scenes between FBI (Olsen) and Fish & Wildlife (Renner) until

Select to view spoiler:


at least the second body is found.

The nuance, subtle traversing of levels and layers of conversational topography just impressed me. This must be the script, but they played very well. The "fish out of water" cliche was masterfully navigated and negotiated. Now I kinda want to see it again. Hope I'm not saying too much.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 10:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

I thought it a very good film. But it is possible I am enamored of Elizabeth Olsen. The setting is Wyoming.

Don't know that name but I do like Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene. Should be beautiful being set in Wyoming.

I was a bit captivated by Elizabeth Olsen in Martha Marcy May Marlene (with Sarah Paulson), but had seen her in something before that, to get my antennae up. Have tried to catch her whenever since then. Glad she got some $ and exposure in Avengers, but she didn't get much screen time. She can carry a film, like few others can hope to. Hope to see her in many more headlining roles, and expect her to collect Oscars.


Posting about this movie and recalling it so much, want to go watch it again. Feels like I've seen it twice, but pretty sure it's only been one viewing. Should absorb Renner more this time.
Wonder if there was foreshadowing that I missed.


I've been considering starting a discussion thread for this film, it would be spoilery for those not already have seen it.
The discussion would not be about hidden meanings, mysteries in the plot, story, or unanswered questions. There were not many of those.
The discussion would be about script, lines, portrayals, looks, expressions. Why did they not say this, that, the obvious other, why the lines and cadence were right for that character, that situation, that interaction, why too much would have derailed the progress, partnership, why a captivating look was used instead of words.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 10:47 PM

MOOSE


I've had several people tell me it's basically "Longmire on the big screen".
I like Longmire, so that's a plus for me.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 11:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
I've had several people tell me it's basically "Longmire on the big screen".
I like Longmire, so that's a plus for me.

Never heard of Longmire. Looks like it's a non-broadcast series. Might need to look further into this.

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Friday, September 15, 2017 11:36 PM

MOOSE


It originally was an A&E show, but moved over to Netflix.


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Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:03 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
It originally was an A&E show, but moved over to Netflix.

imdb said A&E cancelled Longmire.

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Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:40 AM

MOOSE


And then moved over to Netflix, and has produced 2 seasons with another in the works.

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Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:57 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Jeremy Renner is on Late Late Show now, repeat, pushing Wind River.

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Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:00 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I suggested to family to see this film, but couldn't get them blasted out of the house. Damnit, I'm going to see ti by myself.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Saturday, September 16, 2017 8:45 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


For those not familiar with cool weather, you might wonder why effusive verbiage is not a hallmark, and a stunted stride is. Cold can make your jaw or mouth work funny, so spoken words become less clear, or unneeded. Relaxed and warm environs can loosen up the tongue. Long strides are not compatible with walking on ice, Penguin walk is.

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Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I'm not seeing this in theaters now.
Has anybody else seen it?

Hopefully it will return for Oscar season. Unless they find some Lego or George Cloooless flick demanding their votes.

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Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:28 PM

MOOSE


If it's still showing, I'm going to try and see it next week on a day off.

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Friday, October 6, 2017 10:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I suggested to family to see this film, but couldn't get them blasted out of the house. Damnit, I'm going to see ti by myself.

What did you think of it?

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Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Has nobody else seen Wind River?
That may be disheartening.

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Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:01 PM

MOOSE


It was already gone when I had a chance to see it, but I'll probably go ahead and get the bluray when it comes out (11/14).
Everyone I know that's seen it liked it, and that's unusual. There's always a hater in there somewhere.

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Friday, November 17, 2017 5:32 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Just finished seeing it, here's my short review.

Yes, a solid murder mystery that tells a real, but sad story. Another reviewer equated it to Jeremiah Johnson, and I agree. The cinematography was breathtaking. Jeremy Renner does a "Hurt Locker" type performance and shows why he is sought after as an actor. Elizabeth Olson also delivers a solid supporting role as the FBI agent who may be in over her head. This film is well written and solidly cast, everyone does a good job. I'm going to keep an eye out for the director, Taylor Sheridan (who also wrote the screenplay for Hell or High Water, 2016), this guy has skills. There is one small thing, the volume/sound on the voices is rather low (I had to watch a second time with my earbuds on my laptop because I missed some of the dialogue) other than that, this was an excellent film that was thought provoking with some action. I highly recommend it.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.

The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.

The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.

For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.

The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.

I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.

I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.


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Friday, November 17, 2017 5:37 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


That's not such a bad thing, I love Elizabeth Olsen too.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

I thought it a very good film. But it is possible I am enamored of Elizabeth Olsen. The setting is Wyoming.


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Friday, November 17, 2017 5:49 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I gotta say Jewels, you and I are in sync here as far as this film goes. I get the feeling you were very impressed when you saw this film on the big screen. I'm sorry I didn't go to the theater to see it.

I was impressed as well, by the cinematography, pacing, casting, the overall mood of the story, the characters. It all seemed quite natural and real. I really liked learning about snowmobiling, running in subzero temps, but most of all about how these folk "survive."

I'm thinking along the same lines in regards to Oscar noms - at least one for Olsen as supporting actor, but Renner for lead. He was really good. Thanks for reminding me that they worked together in the Avengers movie. Their chemistry is palpable.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Everyone I know that has seen it has raved about it. I just might see this one in the theater.

And I hate going out to the theater.

I'm sorry. I should have mentioned that.

Wind River has more power on the big screen. Some scenes might seem less fitted on small screen. I'd suggest not sitting in the front rows of the theater - have good view of the whole width of the screen.
There was plenty of beauty to revel in. Close up and wide shot. Very glad I saw it in cinema. Watching again will remind me of what I experienced.

Thinking about the snow cinematography on big screen, I realize similarity to Hateful 8, Jane Got a Gun. Maybe Fargo.
Editing into Spoiler to not ruin your first experience:

Select to view spoiler:


In fact the Fargo parallels might be greatest all around, replacing the Minnesota dialect with subscripted Native Americans (Arapahoe IIRC).




I could have mentioned I was a little struck, not quite stunned, with the scenes between FBI (Olsen) and Fish & Wildlife (Renner) until

Select to view spoiler:


at least the second body is found.

The nuance, subtle traversing of levels and layers of conversational topography just impressed me. This must be the script, but they played very well. The "fish out of water" cliche was masterfully navigated and negotiated. Now I kinda want to see it again. Hope I'm not saying too much.


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Friday, November 17, 2017 7:59 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.

The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.

The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.

For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.

The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.

I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.

I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.

Just finished seeing it, here's my short review.

Yes, a solid murder mystery that tells a real, but sad story. Another reviewer equated it to Jeremiah Johnson, and I agree. The cinematography was breathtaking. Jeremy Renner does a "Hurt Locker" type performance and shows why he is sought after as an actor. Elizabeth Olson also delivers a solid supporting role as the FBI agent who may be in over her head. This film is well written and solidly cast, everyone does a good job. I'm going to keep an eye out for the director, Taylor Sheridan (who also wrote the screenplay for Hell or High Water, 2016), this guy has skills. There is one small thing, the volume/sound on the voices is rather low (I had to watch a second time with my earbuds on my laptop because I missed some of the dialogue) other than that, this was an excellent film that was thought provoking with some action. I highly recommend it.

SGG

I really should have stated that the sound nuances fared well in cinema. I didn't think to mention it.

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Friday, November 17, 2017 8:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Everyone I know that has seen it has raved about it. I just might see this one in the theater.

And I hate going out to the theater.

I'm sorry. I should have mentioned that.

Wind River has more power on the big screen. Some scenes might seem less fitted on small screen. I'd suggest not sitting in the front rows of the theater - have good view of the whole width of the screen.
There was plenty of beauty to revel in. Close up and wide shot. Very glad I saw it in cinema. Watching again will remind me of what I experienced.

Thinking about the snow cinematography on big screen, I realize similarity to Hateful 8, Jane Got a Gun. Maybe Fargo.
Editing into Spoiler to not ruin your first experience:

Select to view spoiler:


In fact the Fargo parallels might be greatest all around, replacing the Minnesota dialect with subscripted Native Americans (Arapahoe IIRC).

I could have mentioned I was a little struck, not quite stunned, with the scenes between FBI (Olsen) and Fish & Wildlife (Renner) until

Select to view spoiler:


at least the second body is found.

The nuance, subtle traversing of levels and layers of conversational topography just impressed me. This must be the script, but they played very well. The "fish out of water" cliche was masterfully navigated and negotiated. Now I kinda want to see it again. Hope I'm not saying too much.

I gotta say Jewels, you and I are in sync here as far as this film goes. I get the feeling you were very impressed when you saw this film on the big screen. I'm sorry I didn't go to the theater to see it.

I was impressed as well, by the cinematography, pacing, casting, the overall mood of the story, the characters. It all seemed quite natural and real. I really liked learning about snowmobiling, running in subzero temps, but most of all about how these folk "survive."

I'm thinking along the same lines in regards to Oscar noms - at least one for Olsen as supporting actor, but Renner for lead. He was really good. Thanks for reminding me that they worked together in the Avengers movie. Their chemistry is palpable.

SGG

I'm thinking that you, SGG, are a city guy, or nearly so. So I'll ask: are you aware of the more reserved nature, maybe taciturn mode of these rural guys? All of them snickering at the Feeb, her desk ways, the FBI Bureaucratic methods, the lack of "Street sense" and her dogged determination to waste her efforts, instead of using their expertise to solve things? F&WS guy wants to help her, but he's not going to spoon-feed her, and she ignores his offers to help get her focused and straightened out.
If you have a chance to watch it again, see if you can tell the silent tug of war between their levels of conversation, action, authority, and acumen. He wants to help the fish out of water, but she's stubborn. This layering of interaction and exchange was really done well. Amazing. Reminds me of Fargo, as well.

I was thinking Olsen was Lead Actress.

Did the scoring feel familiar?

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Saturday, November 18, 2017 1:58 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I just think that in the transfer from BIG screen to small screen, something got lost in the translation in the mass production. One other consumer on Amazon found that it was also present in the Blu-Ray. Could have been a glitch in the sound mixing, because I heard everything else just fine, it was mainly the dialogue that suffered and needed to be cranked up to 11.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Just finished seeing it, here's my short review.

Yes, a solid murder mystery that tells a real, but sad story. Another reviewer equated it to Jeremiah Johnson, and I agree. The cinematography was breathtaking. Jeremy Renner does a "Hurt Locker" type performance and shows why he is sought after as an actor. Elizabeth Olson also delivers a solid supporting role as the FBI agent who may be in over her head. This film is well written and solidly cast, everyone does a good job. I'm going to keep an eye out for the director, Taylor Sheridan (who also wrote the screenplay for Hell or High Water, 2016), this guy has skills. There is one small thing, the volume/sound on the voices is rather low (I had to watch a second time with my earbuds on my laptop because I missed some of the dialogue) other than that, this was an excellent film that was thought provoking with some action. I highly recommend it.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.

The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.

The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.

For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.

The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.

I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.

I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.


I really should have stated that the sound nuances fared well in cinema. I didn't think to mention i


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Saturday, November 18, 2017 2:10 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I'm going to bring this over to the discussion thread, I think it should go there.

Quote:

I'm thinking that you, SGG, are a city guy, or nearly so. So I'll ask: are you aware of the more reserved nature, maybe taciturn mode of these rural guys? All of them snickering at the Feeb, her desk ways, the FBI Bureaucratic methods, the lack of "Street sense" and her dogged determination to waste her efforts, instead of using their expertise to solve things? F&WS guy wants to help her, but he's not going to spoon-feed her, and she ignores his offers to help get her focused and straightened out.
If you have a chance to watch it again, see if you can tell the silent tug of war between their levels of conversation, action, authority, and acumen. He wants to help the fish out of water, but she's stubborn. This layering of interaction and exchange was really done well. Amazing. Reminds me of Fargo, as well.

I was thinking Olsen was Lead Actress.

Did the scoring feel familiar?




SGG

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Saturday, November 18, 2017 2:30 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.

The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.

The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.

For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.

The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.

I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.

I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.

Just finished seeing it, here's my short review.

Yes, a solid murder mystery that tells a real, but sad story. Another reviewer equated it to Jeremiah Johnson, and I agree. The cinematography was breathtaking. Jeremy Renner does a "Hurt Locker" type performance and shows why he is sought after as an actor. Elizabeth Olson also delivers a solid supporting role as the FBI agent who may be in over her head. This film is well written and solidly cast, everyone does a good job. I'm going to keep an eye out for the director, Taylor Sheridan (who also wrote the screenplay for Hell or High Water, 2016), this guy has skills. There is one small thing, the volume/sound on the voices is rather low (I had to watch a second time with my earbuds on my laptop because I missed some of the dialogue) other than that, this was an excellent film that was thought provoking with some action. I highly recommend it.

SGG

I really should have stated that the sound nuances fared well in cinema. I didn't think to mention i

I just think that in the transfer from BIG screen to small screen, something got lost in the translation in the mass production. One other consumer on Amazon found that it was also present in the Blu-Ray. Could have been a glitch in the sound mixing, because I heard everything else just fine, it was mainly the dialogue that suffered and needed to be cranked up to 11.

SGG

That would be a royal bummer if the sound is hosed on the DVD.
I wanted to see it a second time in cinema, partly to revel in its Majesty. But could not find it showing again.
Looks like now I should be able to find a DVD and watch again.
I will try to check it and compare the sound with what I recall.

I had really hoped more cinema fans would have seen this one on the big screen, largely why I started this thread.
You can't say I didn't try to spread the word.

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Monday, November 20, 2017 4:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Naw, you're good Jewels....you did your best. I remember the ads for this movie, and I thought it was convincing, but I was thinking along the lines of saving a few bucks and limiting my theater experience to the Big Tent Pole productions.

Little did I know that this would be one of those cinema experiences that needed to be seen in the theater. I have a 42-inch screen and it didn't do it justice, the cinematography was THAT good. It was so well done, despite that it's not a deep-thinking type of movie, it's a murder mystery but done extremely well, on all sides.

So don't feel bad.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I just think that in the transfer from BIG screen to small screen, something got lost in the translation in the mass production. One other consumer on Amazon found that it was also present in the Blu-Ray. Could have been a glitch in the sound mixing, because I heard everything else just fine, it was mainly the dialogue that suffered and needed to be cranked up to 11.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Just finished seeing it, here's my short review.

Yes, a solid murder mystery that tells a real, but sad story. Another reviewer equated it to Jeremiah Johnson, and I agree. The cinematography was breathtaking. Jeremy Renner does a "Hurt Locker" type performance and shows why he is sought after as an actor. Elizabeth Olson also delivers a solid supporting role as the FBI agent who may be in over her head. This film is well written and solidly cast, everyone does a good job. I'm going to keep an eye out for the director, Taylor Sheridan (who also wrote the screenplay for Hell or High Water, 2016), this guy has skills. There is one small thing, the volume/sound on the voices is rather low (I had to watch a second time with my earbuds on my laptop because I missed some of the dialogue) other than that, this was an excellent film that was thought provoking with some action. I highly recommend it.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.

The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.

The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.

For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.

The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.

I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.

I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.


I really should have stated that the sound nuances fared well in cinema. I didn't think to mention i


That would be a royal bummer if the sound is hosed on the DVD.
I wanted to see it a second time in cinema, partly to revel in its Majesty. But could not find it showing again.
Looks like now I should be able to find a DVD and watch again.
I will try to check it and compare the sound with what I recall.

I had really hoped more cinema fans would have seen this one on the big screen, largely why I started this thread.
You can't say I didn't try to spread the word.


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Monday, November 20, 2017 12:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I don't think I ever saw an ad for it.

When Actors read a script to decide if they want a role, they must wonder and fear if the final product will be like Uwe Bole work, or Wind River.

How can Renner and Olsen know this would turn out this well? The script alone can't do it.

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Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:01 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I've heard actors say that 'you read a script and you get a good feeling.'
Plus, I would think that the reputation of a director proceeds the script. What I mean is: a director's track record comes into play here as well.

So, if they like the screenwriter and the director, makes them consider a particular project. Imagine if Robert Zemeckis comes up to you as an actor and says: "I got the rights to this book, Forrest Gump, and we got Tom Hanks to commit to it."

If I remember correctly, I heard that Hanks believed in this film so much that he, instead of a big upfront payday, accepted a percentage of the film's gross profits.
I looked it up and found this: "Hanks walked away with an estimated $70M" compare that to the $10-15M that an actor of his caliber would get in those days (1990s).

Nicholson got $50M for Batman (he was paid an upfront amount of $6M). Smart move.

The biggest payday for an actor..........you'll never guess, I was surprised, I thought it was Hanks. Keanu Reeves for Matrix Reloaded, a whopping $126M. Keanu's story of film profit is beyond interesting, this while I was researching this aspect of movie production and actor influence.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't think I ever saw an ad for it.

When Actors read a script to decide if they want a role, they must wonder and fear if the final product will be like Uwe Bole work, or Wind River.

How can Renner and Olsen know this would turn out this well? The script alone can't do it.


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Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:55 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

Does your library have it yet?

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Thursday, November 23, 2017 5:00 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't think I ever saw an ad for it.

When Actors read a script to decide if they want a role, they must wonder and fear if the final product will be like Uwe Bole work, or Wind River.

How can Renner and Olsen know this would turn out this well? The script alone can't do it.

I've heard actors say that 'you read a script and you get a good feeling.'
Plus, I would think that the reputation of a director proceeds the script. What I mean is: a director's track record comes into play here as well.

So, if they like the screenwriter and the director, makes them consider a particular project. Imagine if Robert Zemeckis comes up to you as an actor and says: "I got the rights to this book, Forrest Gump, and we got Tom Hanks to commit to it."

If I remember correctly, I heard that Hanks believed in this film so much that he, instead of a big upfront payday, accepted a percentage of the film's gross profits.
I looked it up and found this: "Hanks walked away with an estimated $70M" compare that to the $10-15M that an actor of his caliber would get in those days (1990s).

Nicholson got $50M for Batman (he was paid an upfront amount of $6M). Smart move.

The biggest payday for an actor..........you'll never guess, I was surprised, I thought it was Hanks. Keanu Reeves for Matrix Reloaded, a whopping $126M. Keanu's story of film profit is beyond interesting, this while I was researching this aspect of movie production and actor influence.

SGG

I forget which film, but Ahnold had a creative recompense package, including giving him a Gulfstream Jet to keep.

Regarding track records of Directors and Scriptwriters - a lot of that is hit or miss, it seems. And keep in mind, film hits the cinema up to 2 years after filming wraps. Filming lasts months at least. Casting is months before that. Script sampling well before that. So what Director released last is several years before the script you are reading will be released - not a very tight feedback loop.
I haven't looked up the writer or director for Wind River - have you? What had they done before Renner & Olsen likely read the script?

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Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:34 AM

MOOSE


Taylor Sheridan is the director and screenwriter.
Guessing casting was done late '15/early '16, he would be coming off of Sicario, which he also wrote.
Only directing credit was "Vile", a horror flick from 2010 or so.

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Friday, November 24, 2017 2:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't think I ever saw an ad for it.

When Actors read a script to decide if they want a role, they must wonder and fear if the final product will be like Uwe Bole work, or Wind River.

How can Renner and Olsen know this would turn out this well? The script alone can't do it.

I've heard actors say that 'you read a script and you get a good feeling.'
Plus, I would think that the reputation of a director proceeds the script. What I mean is: a director's track record comes into play here as well.

So, if they like the screenwriter and the director, makes them consider a particular project. Imagine if Robert Zemeckis comes up to you as an actor and says: "I got the rights to this book, Forrest Gump, and we got Tom Hanks to commit to it."

If I remember correctly, I heard that Hanks believed in this film so much that he, instead of a big upfront payday, accepted a percentage of the film's gross profits.
I looked it up and found this: "Hanks walked away with an estimated $70M" compare that to the $10-15M that an actor of his caliber would get in those days (1990s).

Nicholson got $50M for Batman (he was paid an upfront amount of $6M). Smart move.

The biggest payday for an actor..........you'll never guess, I was surprised, I thought it was Hanks. Keanu Reeves for Matrix Reloaded, a whopping $126M. Keanu's story of film profit is beyond interesting, this while I was researching this aspect of movie production and actor influence.

SGG

I forget which film, but Ahnold had a creative recompense package, including giving him a Gulfstream Jet to keep.

Regarding track records of Directors and Scriptwriters - a lot of that is hit or miss, it seems. And keep in mind, film hits the cinema up to 2 years after filming wraps. Filming lasts months at least. Casting is months before that. Script sampling well before that. So what Director released last is several years before the script you are reading will be released - not a very tight feedback loop.
I haven't looked up the writer or director for Wind River - have you? What had they done before Renner & Olsen likely read the script?

Looks like principal photography began by March 2016.
Renner and Olsen were cast by January.

He directed Hell or High Water, but that wasn't released until late August 2016. His only other Direct was Vile from 2011.
His only other writing was for Sicario, released October 2015. Which also had Jon Bernthal, before Wind River.

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Friday, November 24, 2017 4:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

Does your library have it yet?

I just found out my local library has it, but the waiting list for just one branch is 48 people.

And the only Best Buy in NorthEast Wisconsin is out of stock on Black Friday.

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 12:58 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


The DVD Bonus material had Behind The Scenes videos, and Deleted Scenes. Olsen didn't even want to work this film, or take the meeting, because she hates the cold.

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Saturday, November 25, 2017 1:12 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elizabeth Olsen continues to shine, more so outside superhero fliks. Is she selecting these, her agent, or luck?
The script alone could not have revealed how well it would turn out. The performances, the scoring, the cinematography, the pacing, the transitions and editing, all complementing each other.

The story is either true or based on actual events. When the synopsis of FBI Agent pursues murder on Indain Reservation, some cliches may come to mind. Whatever similar tones or concepts come up, Wind River leaves all that in the dust.

The entire cast of Wind River seems to be selected flawlessly. Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene also worked together in a little show called Dances With Wolves. And after further thought, recalled that Olsen and Renner also worked on Comic Verse films.

For Oscar consideration, only Supporting Actress category lacks a valid nominee - merely due to the lack of meat or size of the roles in the story. I would be very satisfied if Wind River was nominated in many categories.

The nuances and subtleties impressed me. And if the pace seems to be slowing, pay attention.

I also wondered if my familiarity with cool air, snowmobiles made me more comfortable with the storytelling. I am curious if other viewers not as familiar with these situations can relate as well to the story.

I can only recall one item which seemed unexplained, and I'll have to review it later. Everything else was wrapped up well.

Just finished seeing it, here's my short review.

Yes, a solid murder mystery that tells a real, but sad story. Another reviewer equated it to Jeremiah Johnson, and I agree. The cinematography was breathtaking. Jeremy Renner does a "Hurt Locker" type performance and shows why he is sought after as an actor. Elizabeth Olson also delivers a solid supporting role as the FBI agent who may be in over her head. This film is well written and solidly cast, everyone does a good job. I'm going to keep an eye out for the director, Taylor Sheridan (who also wrote the screenplay for Hell or High Water, 2016), this guy has skills. There is one small thing, the volume/sound on the voices is rather low (I had to watch a second time with my earbuds on my laptop because I missed some of the dialogue) other than that, this was an excellent film that was thought provoking with some action. I highly recommend it.

SGG

I really should have stated that the sound nuances fared well in cinema. I didn't think to mention i

I just think that in the transfer from BIG screen to small screen, something got lost in the translation in the mass production. One other consumer on Amazon found that it was also present in the Blu-Ray. Could have been a glitch in the sound mixing, because I heard everything else just fine, it was mainly the dialogue that suffered and needed to be cranked up to 11.

SGG

That would be a royal bummer if the sound is hosed on the DVD.
I wanted to see it a second time in cinema, partly to revel in its Majesty. But could not find it showing again.
Looks like now I should be able to find a DVD and watch again.
I will try to check it and compare the sound with what I recall.

I had really hoped more cinema fans would have seen this one on the big screen, largely why I started this thread.
You can't say I didn't try to spread the word.

Regarding the sound: I haven't watched the whole film again, but what I have watched seems the same from what it was in cinema.
Do you recall specific Scenes that you missed dialogue?

Caveat: I don't use flat screen TV sound for my DVDs. I use my stereo, which I calibrate to Studio baseline, and then add acoustic emphasis.
I am also familiar with people talking in the cold, talking with teeth chattering, understanding Yooper, plus most everything in Fargo, but not good with jive, Cajun, Ebonics.

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 4:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Has anybody else seen it?

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Monday, February 12, 2018 4:30 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


A crying shame that SJW Oscars did not nominate Wind River for a single category. All the work and accomplishment completed long before Weinstein ever approached to distribute. Sure to be supplanted by some PC dreck.

At least it made a decent profit.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:32 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Well, at least Kelsey Asbelle got on a new TV series with Jenna Fischer.
Splitting Up Together.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:24 AM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

Does your library have it yet?



Sorry, I didn't see this before JSF. I must have put a hold on it but I haven't got word yet. There must be a line for it.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 3:44 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

Does your library have it yet?


Sorry, I didn't see this before JSF. I must have put a hold on it but I haven't got word yet. There must be a line for it.

At my libraries they can tell me how far down on the list I am. On Thanksgiving there was a hold list of 48 people at one branch.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:58 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

Does your library have it yet?


Sorry, I didn't see this before JSF. I must have put a hold on it but I haven't got word yet. There must be a line for it.

At my libraries they can tell me how far down on the list I am. On Thanksgiving there was a hold list of 48 people at one branch.



Well, I took a look at my local library's webpage and it said there are 34peole waiting. So I am somewhere on that list.

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Tuesday, February 20, 2018 9:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Tantoo Cardinal appears to have 6 films coming out.

And right now she is playing a Tribal Chief in Bull, a repeat episode.

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Wednesday, February 21, 2018 12:00 AM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Tantoo Cardinal appears to have 6 films coming out.

And right now she is playing a Tribal Chief in Bull, a repeat episode.



Cool. She is a very good actor.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:54 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Wind River on Netflix

.....Just an FYI


SGG

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Sounds like it could be a good film. I will keep an eye out for it at the end of the year at my local library.

I thought it a very good film. But it is possible I am enamored of Elizabeth Olsen. The setting is Wyoming.


Don't know that name but I do like Tantoo Cardinal and Graham Greene. Should be beautiful being set in Wyoming.

Lots of snow. You could make yourself to home.

And Jeremy Renner does a very good job of not showboating, just playing the roles straight, solid, down-to-earth. Except when he must be a superhero.

I just noticed that all of Brenda's posts have been deleted from this thread. Does anybody know what's going on with that?

Are posts from others also deleted?

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:09 AM

WISHIMAY

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Are posts from others also deleted?



For some reason hers and G's posts were deleted along with a bunch of spammer threads. G is now Captain Crunch and brenda is BRENDA.

I saw Wind River, it is now on Netflix. Had not heard of it or even seen this thread until a couple weeks ago, but I gave up on movies in the theater last year.

Decent movie, but I liked Renner to beginner. I'll check out Longmire, Moose.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Are posts from others also deleted?

For some reason hers and G's posts were deleted along with a bunch of spammer threads. G is now Captain Crunch and brenda is BRENDA.

I saw Wind River, it is now on Netflix. Had not heard of it or even seen this thread until a couple weeks ago, but I gave up on movies in the theater last year.

Decent movie, but I liked Renner to beginner. I'll check out Longmire, Moose.

There is also a Wind River Discussion thread, with spoilers.

I also wonder if Moose has seen WR.

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